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post Aug 16 2008, 12:37 AM

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[quote=mchw08,Aug 16 2008, 12:07 AM]
the blog already lock from futher comment.. haiz.. miss my chance to post there... anyway... what i wanted to say was ...

Dun judge a person by its cover (picture in TKT case). Helping out other collector with its collections is not wrong. Buying a truck load of the same car for helping collector is not wrong. I failed to see why other are so red eyes seeing ppl buying the same thing so many. If a collector is as hard working as TKT, i dun see why they cannot find what tkt found. But dun blame others if you cannot get what u wanted. I believed if a collector is patient enuff, will sure score what the collector wanted.

Scoring a many cars as TKT WONT spoiled the market la pls ppl... u think mattle produced cars in limited meh.. for goodness sake, wake up.
It your own selfishness that blinded yurself in this hobby, thinking that everybody is there to rebut yur wants. haizz.. if 1 thinking that no good deed deserved another then i nothing to say liow. ..

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Nothing wrong buying a truck load of the same car (if mattel sells cars like that). Going through boxes (at the back) and picking out the ones you like is wrong... at least unfair.
As if I need to explain, but I will try...
Say C4 orders 20 cartons each time from Mattel. And assuming it opens 5 new cartons every week. If mattel puts in say 2 evos in each carton (I used the figure 2 by conjecturing that TKT obtained 22 evos from 20 boxes), there should be 10 evos up for grabs in a week, every week. If someone like TKT gets all the evos out (which in it self is not wrong, but not fair), there will be no evos for about 30 days. That's a long time for someone to wait... rather than waiting for the next week, they have to wait the next month/shipment.
Have a heart for others, especially kids... stop hoarding.
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post Aug 16 2008, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(demonicle @ Aug 16 2008, 12:41 AM)
f*** U!!! TKT ONLY RAIDED ONE C4! Y NOT U LIFT UR FAT LAZY ASS N GO HUNT LIKE OTHERS!! B MORE HARDWORKING N GO LOOK AT OTHER DEPARTMENTAL STORES ETC??? U THINK THIS WHOLE MALAYSIA ONLY TAT C4 STOCK EVO????? USE UR f***ING BRAINS LAH IDIOT! vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Ok, where do I start.
1) I didn't say TKT raided any C4. You did.
2) I haven't read anyone in this forum "scoring" an evo from anywhere except from the promo packs. I could be wrong. Which brings me back to the question where did TKT get his evos? If you said he got it from C4, then its very strange that only 1 C4 in Malaysia has it.
3) I am using my brains... well, trying to.
4) Idiot? I guess so since its 3:21am and I'm losing sleep to write back to you.

Please read what I wrote carefully. If you can point out anything wrong with what I have written, do explain.

PS. You should watch your profanities. It is against the rules and regulations of lowyat.
PSS. The world is watching. Is this how Malaysian discuss issues?

Added on August 16, 2008, 3:31 am
QUOTE(pgsingerboy @ Aug 16 2008, 12:42 AM)
I think you should join the hotwheels yumcha session..
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Thanks for the invitation.

Added on August 16, 2008, 5:34 am
QUOTE(elgee @ Aug 16 2008, 12:56 AM)
Look, the market is in such a way there is bound to be someone, be it TKT or a scalper or an insider, who will run through all of the boxes and swipe the good stuff. It is how it is.

The thing is, TKT has gone ahead and beaten the scalpers in their game and is selling it to us at retail. By posting his pictures on a public forum he is exposing himself, in which if he was a scalper who swiped all the good stuff and sells it to you at sky high prices, he wouldn't. The market has been like that because of Mattel shortpacking their goods. If a case has less Dragtors/Ratbombs and more Evo X, the stocks will move faster and we will get better shipments and new stuff more often.

I'm saying not trying to divert the blame from people who sweep everything and shifting it to Mattel. I'm just simply pointing out the facts. Also, look a few posts up on this forum, other people have managed to score a lot of good stuff even without going through the cases but on the racks. It means that all hope is not lost. There are places with stuff that are unfiltered and untouched.

I just feel maybe you needed a face and name to point a finger to blame to release your frustration (just my guess). And so happened the blogger posted up the picture and suddenly TKT is to blame for all the cars that are not available on the shelves. He couldn't have hit all the shops, and how sure are you he bought from the same store as you?
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I appreciate your understanding and tone. I would like to add however that I did not say that he bought from the same stores as I do. You may need to read the original post(s). Like I've said before, it doesn't matter if TKT (or people like him) gives away 20 evos for free... it's still not right/not fair for boxes in the store room to be ransacked. It's like TKT having a headstart in a race (in a race against kids). Yes, TKT et el are not just beating "scalpers", they are beating everyone else... especially younger kids who can't do anything about it.

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post Aug 16 2008, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 16 2008, 06:13 AM)
ok HotwheelsforKid
i don't understand why you keep attacking tkt only.why don't you attack those insiders and SCALPERS who filtered out every single hot cars and thunts?
Those are the true AHole in the world......

Added on August 16, 2008, 6:17 amanother thing you need to know, different places have different waves. Like when the Viper Thunt wave hit KL, my JB here doesn't have the wave yet. Just like TRU at KL area have the initial batch of Promo Pack, that time we haven't got it in JB. So waves varies from place to place......
Please, do not attack tkt anymore, just I feel it's not fair to him. As I said please screw those true SCALPERS and INSIDERS that filtered out TREASURE HUNTS and GREAT CARS to be sold at a HIGH PRICE at ebay...

Added on August 16, 2008, 6:25 amtkt beat everyone else but he doesn't keep everything for himself......
he releases them to members at retail price. OK, some said petrol expensive and he is thirst for fame. To tkt, this is nothing as we are all sharing one passion, collect models. Well, i help you, in future i got nice car i will share with you also and give you a good non scalper price! that's how things work in the community! SHARING !!! I also share my collection and release to member at retail and even i made loss but i don't mind, because it's sharing. and the community here also release lots of nice cars to me at RETAIL and at a loss!! so think about it, it's aint about the money. Ask those insiders/ebay sellers to sell you at retail, they will say F you, you think i run a charity show?
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post Aug 16 2008, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 16 2008, 06:49 AM)
i know who are you at the toycarsmy forum.
it might sound unfair to you but even if tkt doesn't do that other people will scalp it and sell it at a high price. so is it fair? we can say that almost 100% shopping complex have insiders which filtered out nice cars.

and as i said, blame mattel also for not giving us what we want! we been stuck with rubbish waves like dragtors for ages till now till i am fed up.  tkt posted publicly and it means that anyone can buy hotwheels from him at retail price. (forum is a public place) so if  you see it , you can buy it for your kids rather than going to ebay and buy it at twice, even thrice the price right?

everything is connected and fated if  you ask me. I was quite frustated when I can't score good cars till I come to this forum and know the reasons.
and got cars that i want from tkt at retail. so like you said, unfair for kids cause they can't find the cars they want. be patient, you will find it one day!
that's how things work! rclxms.gif

and do not connect tkt with 'others like him'. they are diffferent kind of people

1) tkt buys and share
2) scalpers do not share .......
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I believe the fundamental error is the buying part. The selling part concerns me less actually. As I said, I don't have problems if TKT buys 20 cartons of hotwheels and burns them. I don't have problems if scalpers buy 20 cartons and sell them at RM100 each. I have a problem if someone gets the cars unfairly, like taking them out of promo packs or going through 20 cartons in the storeroom. I don't have a problem if he buys what he sees on the shelves... but to go through the cartons (and come out with 20+ evos)? Grossly unfair.

Added on August 16, 2008, 7:03 am
QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 16 2008, 06:49 AM)
i know who are you at the toycarsmy forum.
it might sound unfair to you but even if tkt doesn't do that other people will scalp it and sell it at a high price. so is it fair? we can say that almost 100% shopping complex have insiders which filtered out nice cars.

and as i said, blame mattel also for not giving us what we want! we been stuck with rubbish waves like dragtors for ages till now till i am fed up.  tkt posted publicly and it means that anyone can buy hotwheels from him at retail price. (forum is a public place) so if  you see it , you can buy it for your kids rather than going to ebay and buy it at twice, even thrice the price right?

everything is connected and fated if  you ask me. I was quite frustated when I can't score good cars till I come to this forum and know the reasons.
and got cars that i want from tkt at retail. so like you said, unfair for kids cause they can't find the cars they want. be patient, you will find it one day!
that's how things work! rclxms.gif

and do not connect tkt with 'others like him'. they are diffferent kind of people

1) tkt buys and share
2) scalpers do not share .......

Added on August 16, 2008, 6:53 amwhy did you edit your post?
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shouldn't have used someone's real name. you should edit the name out too.

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post Aug 16 2008, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 16 2008, 07:05 AM)
you think scalpers buy 20 cartons of hotwheels? that's a joke !! they open the box just like tkt also but only different is the pricing?
tell me, if you can't buy the car you want and you know that tkt and scalpers are selling, tkt (retail) and scalper (scalp price) which would you prefer?
politics in hotwheels are very dirty, insiders everywhere. as i said scalpers do not buy in cartons. so it's GROSSLY UNFAIR. what tkt did was helping members to get cars at a non scalp price. I mean those hot cars. Stay in the community and you will know more about hotwheels collecting... it's dirty politics...
and i said again and again, you are biased against tkt and not those scalpers. (  u even defend them and said that i have no problem for them if they wan sell RM 100 each)
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Every now and again, someone needs to shout "its unfair"... it was just my turn yesterday that's all.
I don't know how much more objective I can be. If you think I can moot my point more fairly, or can show me where I have said something wrong, please let me know.

Btw, thanks for trying to discuss things rather than cursing and swearing and talking senselessly... just makes us Malaysians look bad.
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post Aug 16 2008, 07:29 AM

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Part of my son's collection. He sleeps next to his cars every night.

Ok, I need to sleep now. Not more evangelizing... its tiring.


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post Aug 16 2008, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 16 2008, 07:23 AM)
You keep shouting its unfair but have you try to understand why you can't get the car? Now you found the answer online, and you blame tkt solely for everything. answer me about the scalpers selling at RM 100 thing. To me, it looks like a BIASED personal attack towards tkt.  tkt doings might make some people feel unfair but to me, what tkt did was just selling at retail just like the shopping complexes do. so nothing wrong with that..

and as said before, who do you prefer to deal with? tkt (retail) and scalpers ( twice the price)+ ridiculous shipment...
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Think for a second, if TKT did not take it, perhaps all 20 cars would be in the hands of children.... even those without a PC. My 2 sen.
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post Aug 16 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(demonicle @ Aug 16 2008, 10:58 AM)

Added on August 16, 2008, 11:07 amHotwheels4Kids, y r u so thick headed n still think wat TKT did was wrong? let's paint t scenario here

If TKT didn't take those evo's : some scalper would have taken them? a few kids would have bought them to go play with it, u wud have gone n got one for ur son? dinie, sinclair, elgee, n me wud have to travel all t way to tat c4 to go n try get one? but then there wont b any left? u pay us bc for petrol? sanlino n kforever fly all t way here to try n get but already taken by small kids. so u pay them flight ticket?

since TKT has taken them: many of us here can get t evox. even thunts he can help me find. anyways i saw a lot of red evos b4 he went n 'scalped' it's not only t promopack. this is t new wave tat will b hitting our stores soon. so look out for stores tat u think will restock(this t part where u didn't use ur brains).

if now u go n ask TKT for an evo x, he'll still sell it to u at rm6. even if u didn't apologise. tats y he's a bigger man than u.
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Yes, I believe what TKT did was unfair and not right.

No I don't need an evo x... never did. My son has one already. But that's not the point.

What's wrong if the evos are in the hands of kids?

What's wrong if people like you have to wait or hunt on your own to get what you want (like the rest of us)?

The only thing I needed to apologize (and I already did in the other forum) was to insinuate that TKT ripped the 22 evos from the promopacks.
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post Aug 16 2008, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(demonicle @ Aug 16 2008, 11:48 AM)
all can come to gathering n get evo from tkt if u wan! dun be scared. he won't eat u guys

Added on August 16, 2008, 11:52 am
"What's wrong if people like you have to wait or hunt on your own to get what you want (like the rest of us)?"
nothng wrong.

now ur turn
what's wrong if tkt helps 20 ppl get t car tat they've been searching for?
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Nothing wrong with him helping (or giving the cars away or burning them)... he just needs to get whatever he finds on the racks... not boxes unless stores sell cars by boxes these days. Why tamper with nature?

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QUOTE(demonicle @ Aug 16 2008, 11:54 AM)
hotwheels4kids, do u know tat most of us got our loose evo x back in june? do u know there was a big case that some trader got taken to police lock up for selling loose hotwheels? do u know all this? or r u jus a new collector?
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I didn't know that but that shouldn't change anything. It's not about evo-xs either... its just playing fair. Some may not but one does not need to follow (or kia-su). Change has to start somewhere...
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post Aug 16 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(demonicle @ Aug 16 2008, 12:02 PM)
it's not wrong to go thru boxes! those boxes will b displayed in t end. let me give u some stories about boxes.

LAST WEEK: elgee made a trip to TRU subang. he found tat the DC packs had just arrived. the boxes weren't opened! so he ASKED PERMISSION from t staff to go thru t boxes.. he found 3 regular plymouths n 1 super. he took t super n gave me a call. i requested 2 regulars.. then another collector called up t staff n asked t staff to reserve for him a thunt! 30 mins later, raymond went there n didn't see a single thunt. then he got upset lah.. jus missed it by 30mins. while he was there, he noticed a young couple also goin thru t boxes lookin for thunt. t gurl kept takin one by one out n askin t guy 'is it this one?' n t guy kept saying no no no no.
CONCLUSION: either we take for OUR FRENS, or we loose out to tat couple or staff? try go look for plymouth now lah! was it wrong for elgee to go thru t boxes? i dun think so...

got many more stories. will get bc to u later
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Sometimes its easier to understand something with a simplier example. Say you got on a bus and there is are 20 seats available at the back but someone stops you from getting a seat. He says, i'm reserving for my college friends. They will be boarding the bus soon. If they don't need the seat, I'll let you sit. In the mean time, just stand and wait...

Added on August 16, 2008, 1:56 pm
QUOTE(elgee @ Aug 16 2008, 12:16 PM)
You must get the idea that TKT is not the only one doing it. He's done it only because scalpers would/will eventually make their way to stores (and its usually pretty quickly) after they have been restocked and it would have been gone anyway. I'm trying to say that, in this race, it isn't just TKT against the kids. There are a lot of players around in this collectible business that are rather invisible or unknown to those who have not seen this side of the market. Its a bit disheartening, but true. Hot Wheels is no longer a kids toy, there are a lot of adults collecting them too.

The thing that ticks people off in here is IMHO, there are scalpers who have done what he did so many times and have been doing for a long time, but yet have not been accused by you. Rather, like I said previously, you needed a face and name to direct this blame to. On the other hand, TKT comes in, does it once with the a good intention, and then gets stoned for it from you and the other guys in the blog comments just because he was doing what is right. Justice is subjective. Even if TKT stopped today the game will not change.

Scalpers almost always gets first view and then will swipe the good stuff in the cases. Once those are gone there is nothing you, me, TKT or anyone else can do about it. TKT has just simply gone and beaten them because he can do something about it before that happens. Its a bit cruel, but IMHO, younger kids can't do anything about it anyway. The market is like that because of the way Mattel sets it.
There are a lot of people you have to tell before changes to that level happens. What I think is right may not be what you think is right. We do what is right in our own eyes. There is no set standard for righteousness.
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Something that is right is not necessarily fair (and vice versa). I'm arguing (and have always been arguing) that TKT wasn't fair. Anyone that does what TKT does isn't being fair, especially to children. While Mattel understands that hotwheels are also collectable items, it has clearly priced the hotwheel cars low enough to be considered toys for children (unlike 1:24 or 1:18 models). Its not fair when adults play hard in a childs playground.

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post Aug 16 2008, 09:17 PM

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I will officially depart with one last message: Do to others what you want others to do to you. When you go hunting, I'm sure you hope to find something "nice". Leave "nice" things on the rack/boxes that you don't really need for others to enjoy.

I wish you all the best in your collecting.

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Only found out what you did TKT. Well done.

PS. BTW, did you ask management if it was okay to pick from hotwheel cartons? wink.gif

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I photoshoped the evos too (for those who didn't realise) wink.gif

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My son's hotwheels KITT

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post Aug 20 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 20 2008, 03:20 PM)
haha........you got us there bro ! tongue.gif

Added on August 20, 2008, 3:21 pm
that's great stuff.......
got it at japan?
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Yup, for his 4th birthday.
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post Aug 20 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 20 2008, 03:27 PM)
wow! that's nice. i remember this one cost about RM 100 at ebay doh.gif
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That's because there aren't anymore anywhere... I bought it (actually 2) from a hobby shop so the shipping was more expensive than the cars.

For my son's 6th birthday, I got him a Hotwheels Pontiac Banshee (used in the Knight Rider 2000 movie).

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 20 2008, 03:38 PM)
wow.........
how about the 5th birthday ?biggrin.gif
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Well, I can't quite remember. I always got him a "bigger" car as well. For his 4th, 5th, and 6th birthdays are these I think (in no particular order).

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This year, he will be getting a 1:24 Shelby GT500KR from JadaToys (as used in the latest Knight Rider Tv movie) smile.gif

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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Aug 20 2008, 04:05 PM)
you are nice father and i notice the cars are in very good condition................. notworthy.gif
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