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TSantnine
post Aug 8 2008, 04:07 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hey there iPhone first generation users. I think its time to defend ourselves.

We have seen that most iPhone users are selling their iPhones to get the 3G ones. But, is really our phone ain't good. Prices start selling at RM1200. To me this price is ridiculous. We should deserve more than that. Like let say RM1600 and above. I'll list reasons why.

1. Our phone is no longer in production but still demand is there.
2. Our phone serves us fantastically well.
3. If there is any software problem we can fix it ourselves through iTunes no cost incurred.
4. iPhones are easily updated with the help of Dev team this means it does not go obsolete.
5. The differences of price between iPhone and iPhone 3G is wide how can it be? RM1500 with RM3200.
6. The differences between EDGE iPhone and iPhone 3G's functionality from the user guide at apple.com/iPhone, I can see that 90% of the content of the user guide is same.

This is just some of the facts I can think of at the moment and I'm sure that there is more reasons why we deserve more than just RM1200 when we sell it out as second hand.

This post has been edited by antnine: Aug 9 2008, 01:59 AM
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post Aug 8 2008, 04:20 PM

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I can only think of better web surfing speed and a new body for the Iphone 3G. The rest I've got it in my trusty 1st gen Iphone. Still loving it. Correct me if I left out any extras for Iphone 3G. wink.gif
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QUOTE(obee @ Aug 8 2008, 04:20 PM)
I can only think of better web surfing speed and a new body for the Iphone 3G. The rest I've got it in my trusty 1st gen Iphone. Still loving it. Correct me if I left out any extras for Iphone 3G.  wink.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 04:37 PM

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i understand wat u r feeling bro..
da average iphone price is arnd 1800~2100 for da previous gen...
maybe those who r selling it below tat mark r just wanting 2 let go of da device 2 get sm cash perhaps?

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post Aug 8 2008, 04:44 PM

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i wont sell my iphone at rm1.5k eventhough i got it less than rm1.3k. it's so worth and i cant get any better phone at rm1.5k. so really no point selling it at rm1.2k. maybe that iphone has some problem, who knows?
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post Aug 8 2008, 04:54 PM

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lol. selling at 1.2k is merely for fast deal. then when one person offer such price, then another seller wanna sell it fast willing to let go at RM1.1k start. and from there the prices will go down as demand is low while supply is high. which is also 1 of the reason why i cancel my sales in the 1st place back then.

Again, some said they can get cheaper i3g, hence they wanna sell their 1st gen to fund for the new i3g.

is not that our phone isnt good, is just the seller wan fast deal leads to our despair. for me, i can wait for i3g until next or so. its not a big deal if i get i3g or not; if i got it, i will appreciate its 3g service more. and this is the only phone that never made me think of selling (previously is because i had a deal for 16gb)


Added on August 8, 2008, 4:55 pmjust if every seller stay firm on, let say RM1.5k - 1.6k for a full set 2nd hand iphone and a lil patience, things will surely change.

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post Aug 8 2008, 05:19 PM

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but hey malaysian mentality
everyone wants the cheapest they can get regardless of the service and conditions

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post Aug 8 2008, 05:21 PM

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dear TS,

u cant stop ppl from change new phone...they have their right to sell their item at any price they want...all depend on the buyer are willing to buy or not...

i also use 2g iphone, i agree with you that 2g iphone are collectible item. it will be an antique after 20 years as this is apple first phone...do you still remember motorola tai ko tai? now ppl are willing to pay rm5k for that phone...

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post Aug 8 2008, 05:29 PM

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For info, just coming back from pertama, N95 second hand RM 1100/=, So to put RM 1200/= consider lelong oledi lor. BTW, i will still use first gen. And 3G iphone will be my gift to my wife.
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post Aug 8 2008, 05:36 PM

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there was a crack screen gen1 iphone...starting RM1200...still nt sold rite?

hehe tongue.gif me dun plan to sell..i'll collect all..muahahha...but waiting for price to be nice nice..

haihz..ppl 1 2 sell coz many dun appreciate..dey just buy to shw off nt too appreciate it..dats y dey sell out den go ahead with the next gen 1..

1 word..dey LEBIH oni 1 la..
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post Aug 8 2008, 10:18 PM

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Yea for fast cash purposes...i do agree...i'm not so sure on how others think about this...i just feel that this phone doesn't deserve those kind of taunting...haha...anyways this thread is merely open for eye opening and discussion purposes...cheers...
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i LOLed when i look at this thread.

1. Do you call Potong Saga 'limited edition' since it stopped production already?
2. Potong Saga serves their driver well too, still can drive them from one place to another.
3. If it serves you so well, why it there a problem in the first place?
4. Can you guarantee that the support will go on forever? Eg : Fat PSP custom firmware have lesser support than PSP slim now right? People tend to forget about the pass and move forward.
5. Price is subjective, it may costs a lot for you or some low income earner and students, but for those who earn 5-6 figures income, an entertainment meal may costs more than that.
6. Mercedes and Potong, in order to turn left and right, both cars also have to turn the steering, same with iphone, same functionality doesn't mean same quality.

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post Aug 8 2008, 11:28 PM

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Limited edition? Do you really know what limited edition means? GOSH
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:31 PM

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For me IT Technology / Gadget is not limited edition but ( outdated )
How you think .
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:34 PM

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Ferrari FXX = Limited Edition

Discontinued iPhone = Outdated
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post Aug 9 2008, 12:22 AM

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Let me continue in more further example and u will laugh with it

Example :
i have a Nokia 3100 ( Guess u guys should know what it's)

1st it no longer production [ limited edition ]
2nd it serves well

and bla bla ... = =
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post Aug 9 2008, 01:28 AM

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i LOLed since Sony T made her post... and you guys followed~
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post Aug 9 2008, 01:54 AM

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*disclaimer: i am currently using the first gen iphone.



this thread is hilarious to be honest. it matches the proverb from "The Fox and the Grapes"
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post Aug 9 2008, 03:38 AM

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no way i will sell my first gen iphone.... kinda fall for it... but gonna get the 3g as well soon~
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post Aug 9 2008, 07:41 PM

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it really depend on how ppl think about keeping 1st gen iphone (or any IT product)...it all up to you...

how well do you all know about car?can you compare ferrari with proton?


Added on August 9, 2008, 7:42 pmthere is no right or wrong, it is depend where do you stand...

This post has been edited by kai5183: Aug 9 2008, 07:42 PM
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post Aug 9 2008, 07:56 PM

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For whats worth, there's no other phone that can offers me what the iphone can for now..
For 1.2 or 1.5k, there's no way you cant get a multimedia orientated phone like the iphone can, plus the reason the price went down drastically is also caused by Malaysia not lauching the 1st gen, and for the 3G, the price will definately reach till 1.5k by 6-10 months..

I'll stick to my 1st gen iphone till the 3rd gen comes out.. wink.gif
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LOL.... my T100, T610...all limited addition tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2008, 06:33 PM

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lol, still prefer 1st gen iphone, dun like plastic back of i3g...but gps sssssure is cool within i3g...
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QUOTE(jimnuz @ Aug 10 2008, 06:33 PM)
lol, still prefer 1st gen iphone, dun like plastic back of i3g...but gps sssssure is cool within i3g...
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the back of 3G is solid , trust me u'll definately fall in love with it .
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post Aug 10 2008, 06:52 PM

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How many times do I have to say, IT IS NOT PLASTIC! For God's sake!
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Hahahaha... String gonna explode already..
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post Aug 10 2008, 07:07 PM

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plastic plastic plastic!
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post Aug 10 2008, 07:08 PM

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I already try arrange a meetup to testdrive the iPhone 3G, but everybody either too busy, or shy to meet me( I dont know the reason why, I dont eat people lah!). Once you have fondled the Aifontriji, you'll see that it is not plastic at all!


Added on August 10, 2008, 7:09 pm
QUOTE(jakesean @ Aug 10 2008, 07:07 PM)
plastic plastic plastic!
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post Aug 10 2008, 07:19 PM

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It's plastic. A very strong kind of plastic. I'm no material engineer or anything but everyone knows there's a huge range of plastics so using the generic 'plastic' term to describe the back of the iPhone 3G isn't wrong.

Check out WWDC 08 keynote 1:26:13
"It's beautiful. This is what it looks like. It's even thinner at the edges, it's really beautiful, it's got a full plastic back, it's really nice".


Added on August 10, 2008, 7:24 pmedit to add: I've played around with the iPhone 3G quite a bit, and stringfellow's right about the back not feeling like a typical plastic mobile phone (like Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones). However, at the end of the day, it's still plastic smile.gif

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Do whatever you guys want lah, it's your money. I certainly wont buy the Motorola phones no matter how RAZR-thin they are, because I cared more about what the my phone can do, than what dimensions or material used to build it are used. No skin off my back, and not my loss either.

I'd like to assume all this "plastic, therefore the Aifontriji is no good" statement is more of an excuse not to upgrade because of you have just recently purchase an Aifonej, but I dont want to look or sound like I'm dissing the Aifonej. Like Seaedge's sig says, the Aifontriji is a great phone, but the Aifonej is as good as well.

I better stop getting miffed at these one-liner statements, Apple hardly pay me anything to do their defending. I just dont like blanket statements by folks who had hardly seen or used the Aifontriji in person to simply disregard the Aifontriji's strong points, just because it looks plastic. You couldnt get any shallow than that.
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QUOTE(tayhaithian @ Aug 10 2008, 06:37 PM)
the back of 3G is solid ,  trust me u'll definately fall in love with it .
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lol...i try to pretend not like it...huh..dun poison me laaa..i dun wan spend so much to upgrade whistling.gif


high quality plastic? or is not plastic? i dunno le...@ string is not plastic? huh..sorry i don't really know..
and im currently using agent18 incase @ my iphone which is a plastic ..haha.. vmad.gif


back to the topic....1.2k for full set good condition 2nd handset iphone? very hard to find le...only ppl who dun care for 100 200 hundred diff sell tat price.. rclxm9.gif
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I agree with what string said, plastic or not, its the function that counts..
The thing underneath it is what matters, i also have a Razr with me, but othet than the solid body and thiness, that phone is crap..

But i believe Apple wont use cheap ass plastic to protect whats beneath.. Right guys?
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It's already been discussed and pointed out that the aifontriji back is not plastic. Its somekind of a ceramic hard shell coated in a glaze that make it look like plastic. Try googling it yourself coz i don't have the energy to dig my brain for the source.
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but u guy doesnt mind hard silicon on pamela anderson? coz its look good? laugh.gif laugh.gif drool.gif laugh.gif

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If my memory serves me right, Steve did say the iPhone 3G "has a gorgeous plastic back" during the recent WWDC. But well, probably that is in laymen's term. He is not gonna say that it is a "ceramic hard shell coated in a glaze that make it look like plastic", is he? That'd be too confusing and boring for a keynote.

But really, even if it is plastic.....so?

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still love my 1st gen iphone... very solid and still rocks !

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QUOTE(Fighteden @ Aug 9 2008, 07:56 PM)
For whats worth, there's no other phone that can offers me what the iphone can for now..
For 1.2 or 1.5k, there's no way you cant get a multimedia orientated phone like the iphone can, plus the reason the price went down drastically is also caused by Malaysia not lauching the 1st gen, and for the 3G, the price will definately reach till 1.5k by 6-10 months..

I'll stick to my 1st gen iphone till the 3rd gen comes out.. wink.gif
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Are U saying the iPhone 3G will be available @ RM1.5k 6-10 months from now?! Unless Apple introduces a new model and phase this one out, I don't think the iPhone 3G will ever fall below RM2k [Basis: I benchmarked it against existing iPod Touch prices - there is NO reason for Apple to phase off their iPods and if the iPhone 3G is introduced and priced lower than the existing iPod Touch prices, Apple will only kill that product line]
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Yes, it's plastic, so dont buy it.

More stocks for me to get for the guys......
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post Aug 12 2008, 06:49 PM

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If you think 1st Gen is good, then keep it, why bothered how much it worth. It worth a lot to me. That's what important. If iPhone 3G not your type for whatever reason, wait for iPhone 4G or 5G if all you like, there's always a newer generation, it will never end. "Complaints doesn't work in here."

I remember, when 1st Gen release, ppl complaint it doesn't have 3G. When 3G out, ppl complaint it's plastic and doesn't have front camera. WTF.
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Mankind will never be satisfied.

Even when a perfect iPhone comes along, there will always be something to b1tch about. Most probably the price. Funny thing is, these complaining folks never did consider to buy it in the first place, but only come in to b1tch and moan.
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i think the material shud be poly carbonate rite?
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Debating weather the 3G iphone has a plastic back actually is not that important but rather how it can serve you. As long both generation phone serve you well, get's the job done, we are good.

Owning an iphone is already a luxury..good to be a owner of a iphone.

Next target phone is 3g iphone.

Cheers
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I malas to argue already, Rx. Just agree only lah, keep things short and simple. Yes, it's plastic and please dont buy it. Leave the stocks for me.
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And me too.. A 8GB will do.. tongue.gif


Added on August 12, 2008, 8:13 pm
QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Aug 12 2008, 06:41 PM)
Are U saying the iPhone 3G will be available @ RM1.5k 6-10 months from now?!  Unless Apple introduces a new model and phase this one out, I don't think the iPhone 3G will ever fall below RM2k [Basis: I benchmarked it against existing iPod Touch prices - there is NO reason for Apple to phase off their iPods and if the iPhone 3G is introduced and priced lower than the existing iPod Touch prices, Apple will only kill that product line]
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Why not?
Look at the 1st gen's price when it first comes here.. RM2399 for the 8GB, plus unlock RM2499..
And after less than one year, it's RM1300 now..

And i am sure next year's keynote Apple will introduce something for the next iPhone..
iPhone Nano? Bah.. Sounds lame tongue.gif

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The rules have changed.

The price will not drop to those levels, the benchmark is not USD199, but the price for buy outright ones. And these are never less than USD699/NZD1129. Unless your seller is willing to get a plan for every single iPhone 3G he is selling, you will never see the price dropping to that level.

The only other way you can get the price down to the current iPhone EDGE prices are either black market units, or second hand ones. The cost of getting an iPhone 3G with plan at the cheapest alone is more than RM6000. Nobody's willing to sign that amount of money away just to help you get one for the price you wanted. (RM1400 thereabouts)

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Yes i am talking about used unit..

For new unit its impossible to reach 1.5k, that i am aware of..
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Cool. Im glad we are on the same page. smile.gif
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@wei,
Absolutely right - people will never be satisfied. If this new iPhone 3G had a front camera included; people will be complaining about the price!

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