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Hobbies BONSAI MALAYSIA, here we talk abt bonsai art

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Bonsailelong
post Oct 21 2010, 09:12 PM

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Bonsai at lelong prices. 2 pots Boxwood n Limau (sang kat) 30cm high RM 300 only.
email - bonsailelong@yahoo.com

Trying to sell off some of my bonsais n bonsai materials to make room 4 reorganizing my garden.

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This very old "shui mui" bonsai material to let go RM 380 only.

Interested kindly contact me.



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post Oct 23 2010, 09:08 PM

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Walking along the street with these gigantic ficus bonsai give u real great feeling.
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post Nov 10 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(limgp1976 @ Nov 10 2010, 02:01 PM)
Where can find bonsai small pot about RM 10-30 ?
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[attachmentid=1878522] [attachmentid=1878528] Serissa Foetida
Serissa Tanuki Bonsai

[attachmentid=1878533] [attachmentid=1878539]Boxwood/Buxus Harlandii
Serissa Japonica

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Fucus Ginseng size-M

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post Nov 11 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(limgp1976 @ Nov 11 2010, 12:22 PM)
Any other picture to choice ?
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Kindly contact me by email. Will forward more photos then.
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post Nov 11 2010, 03:31 PM

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BONSAI in tradition style
The birthplace of bonsai was China and the word bonsai derived from the Chinese word pun-sai. (Anybody interested in the history timeline can check on the internet – Chinese history bonsai timeline.)
The early shapes of Chinese bonsai with sparse foliages gnarled trunks resemble those of Chinese building like the pagoda, animal like the dragon (Chinese like dragon anyway), dancing fairy, aged pine trees that grown on the side of steep rocky mountains and hills. Aired roots and cascading were also very much favored among the early days. These shape although simple but they have their self refinement. Up to today the early Chinese bonsai shaping is still highly prized. There are also “Ying” and “Yang” in Chinese bonsai. “Ying” means feminine and “Yang” means male or the benevolent dragon. Further to all these, each pot of bonsai is given a name, a phase or even a poem to enhance its look.
During the Chinese culture revolution (1966-1976) Chinese antiques, historical sites and culture suffered devastating damages. However the knowledge of cultivating bonsai never died. After the revolution, the Chinese started back their old art of bonsai cultivation again. In the early 90s Chinese began their large scales farming of many types of bonsai, and at the end of the decade exports of Chinese live bonsai plants to many parts of the world began. Among the most common species the Chinese exported are ficus, gensing ficus, fukkien tea, Chinese elm etc. To most people the Chinese mass production bonsai are unhealthy, full of wire scarring, badly chopped trunk that can never recovered, simple and weird looking in some ways. However these bonsai are cheap and very affordable. During the late 90s Chinese traders selling mass production bonsais in Malaysia can be commonly found in the open car parks of many shopping malls. The easy availabilities and cheap Chinese bonsais had actually sparked off the bonsai interests of many people in this country.
The followings are some photos of my traditional shape bonsais for your viewing pleasure. The photos are not so well taken but hope you enjoy watching them.

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Peace & Tranquility
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Roots of Stabilities
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Tree of Pagoda
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FOOK (family joy & harmony) and Steps to Prosperities
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Dance with the wind
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This one call ....... @#$$$$$%&*?

Words of criticism are points for improvement so comments are welcome.

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post Nov 15 2010, 04:49 PM

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SERISSA - tree of thousand stars/snow rose
Cheap material for bonsai? Not really.
It's a great material for small bonsai n required very much efforts and times to become a good looking one.

Attached Image Serissa Japonica

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(The smallest leaves n flowers plant I ever have, not easy to grow too.)

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(Chinese June Snow very common in M'sia)

SERISSA JAPONICA

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post Jan 17 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(D4217 @ Jan 14 2011, 06:52 PM)
Hi all,

I am looking for Fagara inerme or Xanthoxylum in Malaysia.

Anyone know where to get it ?

Is it hard to import seeds from Japan ?
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Fagara Inerma Is it Japan pepper? Look like Limau Rawit?
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Bought this at Jusco One Utama sometimes back. Can't grow well.
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post Jan 18 2011, 04:57 PM

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Bonsai Materials - White Mulberry.

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post Jan 19 2011, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(jacklsk_812 @ Jan 19 2011, 04:59 PM)
From my experience, those plants from Jusco are of lower quality. A better choice is from the Bonsai plantation or from direct home seller, that would be better and more quality guaranteed.
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You're right. Is the type of tree or plant that happened to come across.


Added on January 19, 2011, 9:58 pm
QUOTE(limgp1976 @ Jan 18 2011, 06:05 PM)
Howmuch selling ?
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rm20 to rm60 small to big.

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post Jan 21 2011, 01:09 PM

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An Ordinary Bonsai Story

This was my good old favored shui mui.
I can still remember how I styled it from time to time over 2 decades.
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In the yr 2 thousand n 9. I was down with cornea ulcer in my left eye followed by cardiovascular illness.
Fighting the battle for almost 13 long months n managed to return to my bonsais with full heart.
But then many of my beloved bonsais just gone.
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I hope I can still make use of these remains to create some Tanuki bonsai.
As for my good old shui mui, is now under salvation.
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All bonsai buddies please do take care of yourself before u can take care of yr bonsai.

Good luck.

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post Jan 31 2011, 03:23 PM

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Year of the Rabbit is here!


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HAPPY & PROPEROUS CHINESE NEW YEAR

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post Feb 6 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(mikacarrick @ Feb 4 2011, 07:53 AM)
wow. just found this topic. but it seems this topic is not that active. nevermind. i wanted to join u all guys. i had been training bonsai for 1 years ++ now. never have a matured one as i start from raw materials. later one, if i got some chances, i will post my ugly duckling here. hope they will turn into a beautifull swan later.
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Welcome. Hope can make this forum more lively.
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post Feb 7 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(mikacarrick @ Feb 7 2011, 07:13 AM)
any of you had try japanese white pine before? i did. but then, died. i did some mistakes...
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Japanese White Pine Black Pine or Chinese Black Pine White Pine are just too good to die in our weather.
Suggestion: save your money and efforts on those and turn to something local.
say "sleeping pine" and "toh jung"



Attached Image "sleeping pine" still under training.

Attached Image "toh jung" young trees under initial shaping.
These 2 type of pines have snake like trunks very slow in growing thick or never able to grow thick at all.
Only good for tall thin looking bonsai no way to compare to the black or white.

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post Feb 12 2011, 03:44 PM

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Hi Chiang,
Thank you very much for pointing out.
For the species with Chinese name "sleeping pine" i think is Juniperous Rigida.
For the one Chinese name called "toh jung" i'm pretty sure is a pine species.
Hope some one can let me know its botanical name.

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post Feb 12 2011, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 12 2011, 05:48 PM)
Juniper and pine share the same chinese letter word. But in English an biology they are two different they means different pant. 
Junipers are coniferous plants in the genus Juniperus (pronounced /dʒuːˈnɪpərəs/)[1] of the cypress family Cupressaceae
Pines are trees in the genus Pinus (pronounced /ˈpaɪnəs/),[1] in the family Pinaceae.
Both of them belong to one big group called  conifers
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Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Is "toh jung" pine or juniper?
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post Feb 13 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 13 2011, 12:45 AM)
The toh jung is a juniper it cannot be call a pine. I think it is Juniperus procumbens is a low-growing shrubby juniper native to the southern Japan, it closly related to Juniperus chinensis. There are more than 50 type of juniper.
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I think you are quite right about "toh jung"
However I don't actually agree it is Juniperous Procumbens.
By looking closely at the specimen photo of "nana" I believe is the common of J Procumbens, the leaves are actually segmented.
Will try to find more info beside from Wikipedia Encyclopedia.
More inputs are welcome. (anyone?)

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post Feb 15 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 15 2011, 09:46 AM)
"nana" means a variety of the spesis in dwarf form, u got that in a few type of juniper.

J Procumbens is a prostrate plant meaning it grow sideway rather than up mabey that is why the chinese call it toh jung (lying juniper)

It is usual to compare plant base on the phenotype (the appearance of an organism based on a multifactorial combination of genetic traits and environmental factors) esp the leaf. But for clasification, the comparison on cone, flower or fruit are more reliable. Plant may appear in various form of phenotype or varieties but sometimes they can be of the same genotype hence the same spesis.
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Wow!
Great info n knowledge!
I may got to ask u about other species too.

Thank you very much.
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post Feb 15 2011, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 15 2011, 03:46 PM)
If u are staying in sungai buloh area that is from jalan hospital sungai buloh until kampung melayu subang, u can see so many type of inportat exotic plant, from japaness maple, mei or tao hua (during new year) ,holy ghost orchid,even the rare sabah sliper orchid, even many type of bonsai including black pine, and the list go on. So far the only flower that i like to see but not been around is botan or peony, . the best part is they at at very bargain price esp near around pusat kusta jalan hospital(do not worry abaout the kusta, you can hardly find someone with it) most ex patient mabey got a bit of deforminty but are cure and not infectious ( i work around there)'

You can buy prebonsai material to be made into bonsai.

Only just now i went just to look around and find a tree i think from conifer group, mabey juniper, the plant grow creeping, needle is a bit flat and and the tip is rounded abount 1.5cm long. the owner of the shop it is cal sui song, which is olso means sleeping juniper. hahaha rm130 per pot .
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Ya,
Been there before CNY.
Black pines (from China) only rm50 per pot but don't look so healthy.
(Mind to show yr "sui jung" or sleeping pine/juniper.)
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 15 2011, 11:13 PM)
I gave up planting bonsai a few years ago n gave them to my brother becoz my job required me to travel out station a lot. but the year 2008 i move 2 sungai buloh my intrest revived after i encouter some black pine seedling 18 month ago,i bought 2 black pine (RM30) juz to experiment ( i kill 4 black pine in the year 1996), but this time i do a lot of reading n reshearch from the internet. The pine still surviving n doing well after 18 month, i got 5 now,( but i olso kill 2 because i experiment with diffrent planting medium) all of them seem to grow well. U can see them in my face book under my profil look my wall my hobby photo. juz type my name Chiang Cheng Kooi, e mail, utarid1964@yahoo.com. I have already train them in various shape, mostly my target is shohin bonsai, becoz i live in aparment an in the late 40ies, an juz like 2 see my result fast.
I did not buy the sui song, not very keen with juniper, hoverver i got 1 junier procumbren and 2 dwarf juniper(shohin). If u want to have a look at sui song u go to nursery near pusat kusta, look for a buddhist temple, oposite diagonally the is a nursery that got a lot of bonsai, u can see they sell black pine too (but not very healthy) ask for sui song. However it is not that impressive and not big but  suitable to train shohin cascading plant.
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Good to know u.
u got interesting bonsais!
I got 2 China black pine before (bought from China bonsai trader) quite costly ones.
When I was sick, they got sick too. When I manage to recover to go back to my bonsais, they got only trunks remained.
I got many bonsais, mostly deciduous species too tired to take care of them all as I'm still in the recovering stage.

Suggestion to yr black pine: Do an air layering to one of yr long trunk tree, if done correctly u can get a shorter tree n another black pine.

(Harry Harrington gave lot of good tips n interesting articles at his Bonsai4me block that can actually be followed -80/90%)
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post Feb 18 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(chiangchengkooi @ Feb 17 2011, 11:54 PM)
]from what i read, black pine does not respond well 2 air layering, may take more thant a year, even the cut around the trunk can kill the plat, if u ever want to try, use bridge air layering technic or just tie a thick wire around the trunk without any cutting.
Other than black pine i olso like to plant bonsai with low light tolerence, i got 2 fig or ficus multi trunk, fuse by growing ariel root making it a 4 inch trunk but 8 and 12 in height and an umberlla plant. I olso love red leaf plant, maple is too expensive so juz try cotinus. if i can garenty survival for maple i do not mind bying, but maple is difficult b coz it need a period of long cold dormancy  about 1 month othe wise it will die after a few years.
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My experience with maple.
Bought 10 maples at lelong price from Chinese bonsai seller.
Hoping that 1 or 2 might make it, but all gone ho-run(k.o).
Those maples were actually dying.
lesson learn - cheap things no good things.

Suggestion - species common name : Okinawa Holly
B M : Mirten
Botanical name : Malphigia Coccigera

Grow well in half shady area; suitable at balcony or near window.

(Will post some of my collections later)

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