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post Feb 6 2013, 07:20 AM

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My wife bought this a few months ago, dunno what type of pine is this, but it refuses to grow upright. My friend told me this type of pine is call 'sleeping pine' it grows sideways only.... oh is this true?? so any idea how to train it to be a bonsai? doh.gif icon_question.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif

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post Feb 6 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 6 2013, 11:26 AM)
I got this from ibonsai forum about japanese black pine,

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about 20 years later, and from seed [ Japan, a gift pack posted to me,] I would say no. Additionally, a German guy also told me that the Japanese Black Pine grows all the way down onto the beach in Japan. You may wish to check and see if the Japanese Black Black wasn't originally a Chinese Black Pine and if it came from the coastal area of South China.

What may give you problems is translating the training information from Japan to tropical conditions and responses.

I have several pines and every year add on a few more seedlings, just to keep figuring out the training technique.

I live in the Caribbean, and we have a pronounced dry season from January until around May, growing cooler by October until say February[ lowest normal night temperature 19 deg.c and lowest recorded temperature 15 deg.c ]
Daytime is a standard 30 -> 33 deg.c as summer comes on.
Breezy island.

Soil mix is mostly crushed silica sand [ 70 % ] and compost. Testing the use of crushed, porous, eartheware red brick, from our local brick factories. Gives excellent drainage.
Growing containers are simple, peasant made earthenware lowfired red brick round flower pots, up to 16 inches wide [ 41 cm ] and 5 to 6 inches deep [ 12 to 15 cm ]
Placement full sun with a light zephyr.

See if you can contact Leo de Leon [ Manila ] as he is also growing Black pines.

Hope this helps.
Khaimraj

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I think i would buy some seed and just try out, the seed are about rm20 for 5+ seeds. anyone want to try together?
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hmmm... interesting, can try... but waiting for 20years... OMG i will be 'ah kong' oledi... doh.gif btw, u buying the seeds from ebay?

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post Feb 7 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 7 2013, 07:09 AM)
Graham potter from kaizen? yes i have been following his videos in youtube lately. Truly brilliant, but the trees are some hard to find here locally. Even the materials he got are great.

So about the black pine, Bonsailelong and Stephagorn is in, G400 you in? Yes i'm buying from ebay, since i'm buying. I'll help you guys buy in the order. It'll be about rm20 for 5+ seeds. It'll take about 2week or 3 for it to reach. Are you guys ok with it? You can pay me when the seeds arrived.

So will be meeting you guys for ho min Yuen after CNY..
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I am ordering the seed thru ebay myself, not need to trouble you again, or else you have to post to me time wasted, extra charges wasted.. btw, as i wrote this post, i have already bought a 25seed pack of black japanese pine from the ebay US 5 mins ago.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif lets hope our project will take off... long long wait... doh.gif tq

How i wish i can join you all on the visit to Ho Min Yuen... cry.gif

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post Feb 7 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 6 2013, 09:36 PM)
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Hi g400x2

The specie you have is actually a type of shrubby juniper called Juniperus Procumbens.
In Chinese it's called "sleeping pine" but it's not a pine specie.
This specie of juniper is not a good material for bonsai. It's only "interested" in growing
thin, long and side way. And for it's trunk it could hardly grows up to 1.5 ins in diameter
no matter how long you grow it. But to train it to become a thin trunk medium size bonsai is quite easy.

Here is my suggestion for you juniper procumbens. Up root your tree carefully, use a sharp cutter
cut the tree into 2 as indicated with each part with root attached. Plant them in separate pots so that you got 2 plants now.
This specie has very tough life, as long as you don't cut away any roots it will grow.
Let them grow for 2 months to recover then you can start you initial shaping to both of them.

[attachmentid=3299416] The one sloping downwards i suggest you shape it into a cascading or semi cascading style.

For the other one maybe you can try to shape like these.

[attachmentid=3299420] or [attachmentid=3299423]

These 2 juniper procumbens of mine are still under training. I am not so happy with their shapes and hope to improve further one day.
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Bonsailelong, tqvm again and again. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif for your valuable ideas and recommendations, hahahaa.. become 2 pots of pine... nice one. for the price of one. hopefully i know how to split them properly, and jope can still survive, or else wife gonna 'knock' my head for killing her plants...LOL anyway will only do it after the Chinese New Yaer....now just too busy... thumbup.gif

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post Feb 7 2013, 11:23 AM

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infrasonic, heard you did mention that in Sarawak they do sell maple tree, can i know where is the location that sell maple tree? interested in them. smile.gif
Oh BTW, which part of sarawak are you from?

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post Feb 7 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Feb 7 2013, 04:24 PM)
saw once before in "Mei Mei" Garden. and if not mistaken, TG nursery at lutong got also. I'm in miri~ but i'm not 100% confirm it's a maple xD

oh and i think there's 1 maple tree in my school ( a tree that looks like maple tree ).but the tree looks pretty dead as there are very little leaves on it ( can see all the branches and trunk of the tree ). and the edges of the leaf are yellow. if i got the chance, i'll take a picture of the tree in my school and confirm whether it's a maple tree or not xD
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oh yeh... i am from Miri also, nice to have ppl from the same town! thumbup.gif !... ok.. i will go to mei mei and TG, when i have the time... to see the maple tree... tq rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Feb 7 2013, 08:15 PM)
Kk. But dun blame me if the one I saw is not maple xD whr u usually buy your stuffs for bonsai in miri?
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I bought from friends in Bintulu, some materials from the nursery, and also at the tamu market in town ( the tamu market opposite Miri bus stop), and also in Pujut 4, (private house). The one is Pujut 4, deserve a visit, if you dunno the place i can bring u there. BTW which area u stay?

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Feb 7 2013, 10:25 PM)
pujut 7.. you working or still schooling?  brows.gif
the one pujut 4 de got any banner on the gate or anything? XD
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No banner, private house. Me?? offcourse working lah... How about u? still schooling?
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post Feb 8 2013, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 7 2013, 11:21 PM)

Hi g400 x2,

Remember your first post on 13 Oct last year asking that this topic is still alive or not.
Then there were only 2 of us, after that Zabel joined in .....
Now this topic is back to life!
There were some real good bonsai sifu posted here before, hope they can come back to this
topic and make it more colorful and lively. But more important share out the  icon_idea.gif

Come on bonsai kaki ! 
Let's learn from each other... notworthy.gif
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That's something we bonsai kakis are sharing beside the passion for the hobby...
" why ! Buy bonsai again ah!?" mad.gif
" Make the house meshy lah" vmad.gif
" spent so much... buying some lalang looking things..." shocking.gif
"wanna eat dinner or bonsai ? !" mad.gif vmad.gif
n so on...so on.........
Never mind about all the nagging "bonsaing" still carry on as long we are still alive, right? Everybody ?
yes... very true... that time only 2 of us posting, really thanks to you and also for your persistance, i think it's very well alive again... just like bonsai shots sproted everywhere now... thumbup.gif hmmm.. guess need to PM those sifu bonsai to join back, i think they are still active in LYN,, rclxms.gif

and YES, supported, bonsaing, will continue, rain or shine as long i i am around... up up LYN bonsai !!! whistling.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Feb 7 2013, 10:30 PM)
yeah..private house..so meaning only those who knows them can go in?  cry.gif
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If you really want to go and buy there, u let me know i can bring you there, but after chinese new year lah... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 8 2013, 09:11 AM

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Zabel8484, u order the japanese pine seeds oledi?
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post Feb 8 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 8 2013, 06:00 PM)
SoonLee33,

That's a Premna, (Zhong Niang Tze). Great Bonsai in Malaysia. Notice the small leaves..They grow fast too.
Yours looks very healthy. Way the go! Where did you get this?
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have not seen Premna, here in my hometown.... hmmm... gonna get you(Preman) back to Miri, in a couple of weeks time... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 9 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 8 2013, 10:52 PM)
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Saving A Stump - One man's trash is another man's treasure.

This is a Wrighthia "shui mui" found in a dump site when I was throwing my unwanted plant cuttings sometimes back in 2010.
It was an amazing found because it's a single stem 6 ins diameter oval shape stump.

[attachmentid=3301752]

However only one side of the stump had got roots growing from it and the middle part of the stump had began to rotted.

[attachmentid=3301758]

The rotten part was scrapped away and the wound was brushed with a coat of bituminous compound to prevent further rotting or it might
not have a chance to survive.

[attachmentid=3301762]   then planted  [attachmentid=3301764]

After 3 months...

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August last year, I transferred it to my planting yard in order to let it grows faster and develop a better root system.

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Will let it grows for at least another year before start thinking of how to shape it.

(Any suggestion of shape to it at this stage?)
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can try to make it look like this?? very nice.... whistling.gif thumbup.gif I always like this type of style of bonsai with straight trunk, but couldn't find one to add to my collection yet. shakehead.gif


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post Feb 10 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 10 2013, 01:15 PM)
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HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR TO ALL,

My Sui Lian HUA bloom today...
Very beautiful and proud to see own flower bloom..

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nice flower, is this call the chinese elm ???
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post Feb 12 2013, 09:34 PM

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Hi all... guess everyone is still in CNY mood... no time for bonsai.!!!
Anyway i have, a questions, below photo i took yesterday during my CNY visitations to one of my friends.
He say its a black pine, wanna ask your expert opinion if its a Japanese Black Pine... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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one more questions...

my 'hokkien tree' the tree trunk have cut wounds, which looks like rotting, how do i preserve it, and prevent it from rotting. Thanks

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 13 2013, 09:55 AM)
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That is the common characteristic of cheap Fukien Tea from China.
The cuts and scars that can never grow back.
You can try scrapping off the rotten part, treat with sulfur lime solution and brush and cover
with a layer bituminous compound to prevent water from entering the woody part of the stem.
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ok. got it... will need to wait until i get hold of sulfur line solution, guess i will need to stock up during my visit to Sanfong on 2nd March. sweat.gif sweat.gif and btw, the bituminous compound, can i use the one that used for patching leaking roof? one side is aluminuim one side is black sticky stuff , i think the black sticky stuff is bituminous right??


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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 16 2013, 07:52 PM)
Dear All,

Someone just bought some black pines....Hihi..
Let him show us....
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Bonsailelong bought it??? come share lah... poison a bit..... drool.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 17 2013, 11:21 PM)
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A VISIT TO MIN HOE YUEN - "Forwards"

After making an appointment with my Melaka bonsai buddy to meet the next morning at
a place beside a supermarket early in the morning, I started my journey down and arrived
at the appointed location a little earlier, and at that moment the call of mother nature was high,
and so I just parked my car beside the super-mart and answer to the "high" call at the toilet of the mart.
It took about 3 mins+ and I came out....

[attachmentid=3310055] ...alamak ! a rm 100 parking summon ! 

The MPMB parking officer was still around, and so I asked him why he issued me such an expensive summon,
I went off for a short while just to go to toilet only. Without speaking a words, he shown me the double yellow lines just beside my car.
I can't argue anymore and just drove my car to a parking lot nearby.
Immediately I moved my car, another 2 cars moved in and parked at the same location that I have just parked.

[attachmentid=3310064] .. and the people left their cars and enter the super-mart.
The MPMB car parking officer was there, just looked on. At this instant I just can't tolerated anymore
and I walked over and asked the officer why these cars were not issued summons and only issued mine.
This  fellow, he just ignored me and walked away and disappeared himself at a corner of the building.
When I looked at the 2 cars, they are Melaka plates. Then I began to realize.....
Do Melaka cars have special privileges ? Definitely - NO!
I think this MPMB officer is waiting for the car owners to come out and ask for coffee money for not issuing
summons to their cars, as for mine, I'm from oustation, so he give me the most expensive summon to show
his superior that he is doing his job!  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif

SO, THIS IS ONE MALAYSIA ! OR ONE MELAKA?  vmad.gif
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really speechless on these... this is so call 1Malaysia...Malaysia Boleh....LOL rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 17 2013, 10:42 PM)
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A TRIP TO " HO MIN YUEN"

First of all I would like correct a mistake which is unintentionally make all the time.

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It's "MIN HOE YUEN" BONSAI NURSERY. We got it "up side down"  blush.gif

This is my Melaka bonsai buddy - young, dyminic, enterprising and full of potential. rclxms.gif

[attachmentid=3309926]

Min Ho Yuen bonsai nursery was actually on a single piece of land of approx. 5 acres.
A Pokok Mangga double lanes drive way was built cutting right through it and now it's divided
into 2 sections.
I visited the first section of Min Ho Yuen under the guide of my buddy Zabel. Accroding to him this is the place
where we can actually but some materials of reasonable prices. So we move on...

[attachmentid=3309943] A welcome gazebo at the entrance.

Lots of old and gigantic junipers
[attachmentid=3309944]  [attachmentid=3309945]  [attachmentid=3309948]

[attachmentid=3309950] West Indian Cherry 

[attachmentid=3309953] Cascading Juniper Precumben.

[attachmentid=3310028] Some young black pine. Not sure is Japan or China?

After buying 2 nos of young black pine, a round lotus pot and a bottle of bark growing hormone, we process
to the second section of Min Hoe Yuen.
This is a "must" visit section.

[attachmentid=3309991] The entrance, looks nothing extra ordinary.  ohmy.gif

Once enter, it's another world.... shocking.gif  drool.gif

[attachmentid=3309996]  [attachmentid=3310000]  [attachmentid=3310002]

[attachmentid=3310006] Cascading Buddha Pine  [attachmentid=3310007] Causurina

[attachmentid=3310009]  Brazilian Rain Tree  [attachmentid=3310011]

And hundreds of "shui mui"

[attachmentid=3310014]  [attachmentid=3310016]  [attachmentid=3310019]

If your are looking for large and gigantic bonsai materials, this s the place.
If you have a big garden and look for bonsai style landscape materials, this is definitely the place.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wah.... speechless again... how i wish this place is in Sarawak... but we are oceans apart.. cry.gif cry.gif
BTW, bonsailelong how much you bought the Black Pine? is the price here cheaper then in sanfong?



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