comparing both UTR and UR, what are the main difference between them? the cost price for UTR is substantially lower than UR and built wise i roughly see more or less the same.. im looking for 3 point fender bar for wira.. no 3 max coz the bar is too thin imo

sorry to ask....UR= ultra racing ...UTR = ???im using UR 4pt strut bar...2pt rear upper bar...3pt fender bar and also 16mm ARB.....good product....

I don't know which one came first UR or UTR, but it was said that they were business partners in the early days before splitting into two separate companies. henceforth they share similar design in old cars. bars for newer cars have significantly different design. but then again, it's not difficult to copy each other's design.

owh, so it is okay to get any for wira la since i believe wira is the 1st model they have.. and oldest haha

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Added on August 6, 2008, 11:21 ami wish i knew

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Aug 6 2008, 11:21 AM

the original one is UR.... UTR dunno came out from where...

bro, can asks smthing? wat is the bar called..the one, smtimes ppl put under their car? we can see the bar.. holding between their rear two wheels.. (if we look from behind, and the angel is from the bottom of the car).. Can someone tell me.. wat was the bar called... n usually how much it cost? :-)

strut bar ? anti roll bar ? stabiliser bar ?

lower arm bar

haha this bar put some fancy on ur car if got color

thinking of getting one, hmm blue looks nice for silver car

ppl put bar for chassis strengthenning.... u put for asthetic look...

well diff ppl diff thinking ma

can lor, 2 in 1 wat

besides strengthening, we also nid to find something thts nice rite hehe

doenst matter anyway...just a piece of metal

if the design and material is good..then it is good..

but that lower arm bar doesnt help much ma

i treat it as an aesthetic item as it comes together with the front struts

wanna ask.. this bar.. didn't kacau the car alignment ka?

UR = Ultra Racing

UTR = UlTra Racing

?? LOL ??

ehh.. UTR comes out with air filter too; those metal mesh type like the blitz

will not kacau, improve ur car handling

nope... as long as u dont screw the car onto the absorber nut...

In my own opinion la actually all is the same only design different a bit but all still using steel also what, anything but alloy, alloy too soft.

UR = ultra racing

UTR = ultra to racing

UTR i think is UL TA RACING... =p
I never liked UTR they like to con people. K&N filter selling rm200+ they also selling rm200+ but quality is worlds apart.

UR = Ultra Racing
UTR = UlTa Racing.

For me, I still always stick to Ultra Racing because of the solid build and my personal experience about it. Not to said UTR is not good but don't know why, UR gave me more reliable feel. It still depend on the owner.. I don't know what the different between two of that brand, maybe only the material.. Same design, same look while maybe different material?

i bought UTR rear anti-roll bar for my kelisa. initially i thought it was Ultra Racing with a new logo...later i found out it was a whole different company.

comes with 5 years warranty... etc etc etc...

been using for a couple of months now and still ok...no issues so far. though i do wish i took Ultra Racing bars just for the sake of "originality".

if u were to compare both utr and ur strut with 3max, u will be amaze with the difference

lol, original give extra 10 horsepower
ok la, i think i will end up with utr since both differ not much but ur cost me rm180 for both side fender bar while utr only rm120

i am using 3max now,i duno bout the others,but for sure it brings wonders to my car,better handling

i think u got my meaning wrong.. im not saying 3max will not help at all..
what i meant is the bar used by 3max is so thin (hence the price) thus it does not maximise the effect
sad to say but im using 3max front 4 point strut bar as well, i know once i compared

sorry for asking this but how much for 4 point (izzit?) front bar for wira?

according to market price,
3max - rm120
utr & ur - rm180
estimation

get UR le..they do export to many countries....

Yes.. I compared once with my friend 3max fender bar and also my UR fender bar. Very obvious that UR fender bar is more huge and look more long lasting. Another thing is, 3Max is much more lighter. Maybe 3max good for motorsport which want lightweight.

exactly my point.. ur bar is so thin
but it is cheap undoubtfully
thats why i wana open this thread if there are any 'hidden' difference between ur and utr that some forumer here can leak
since they are almost identical, i think i would rather save rm50 for utr

Actually dont be fool by UTR or UR, UR and UTR is round that why it looks more solid, meanwhile 3max is flat, but when you weight it both i think more or less the same...this i must ask 3max seller...will get back to you guys later =p

avoid those alloy with red/green/blue colour..those only look nice but very soft

get real made from steel one like UR or UTR

will the steel bar bend the chasis for long term use ?

4point Front Bar for Wira.

3max is selling for RM150 plus installation.

Its price is cheap not because of quality not good or whatever u claimed.

its because you are purchasing it from the factory. thats y price cheaper la..

another point to ponder, size matters or material matters?

pls answer only if you have knowleedge in steel grading.

This post has been edited by miragers: Aug 7 2008, 01:54 AM

noler... bars are for chassis strengthening... not to bend the chassis...

it actually depends on what bar buy la

some actually no use wan.

i would really beg to differ.. dont juz assume, test it ur owneself
many people claim factory price la, wholesale price la but when u actually got on hold of the dealer price, u shat brix

storm already tested the bars, unlike you.
moreover, he purchased from the factory itself, did you?

dealer price and supplier's price?

many ppl also claims that thier product made in germany, but end up made in china but brand is from korea?

which one is considered serious cheating?

everybody also wanna cari makan, no need step on ppl's product like that geh.

those accessory shop bar...

u can bend it by hand by putting it on your knee

haiyo,i also got compare1 b4 buying,the design is different,if like u said,3max1 not dat good,it wont bring any effect ad,i am a happy user of 3max bars for ur info,well spend money

aiyo....since local brands so many problems..get japan bar la....

After install you knock on the bar then you will know solid or not. That day cheean kasi hentam the bar see solid or not..solid man he said. Btw its 3max also. That day i saw two myvi changing UR bars to 3max bars...reason is the myvi bars keep hitting the top and making noise, thats why 3max make it flat to avoid hitting the top of the bonet..

lol, thats right.. some people cant read, im using 3max 4point for front and i felt it is way too small if compared to other brand despite the cheap price i paid, RM90 as compared to utr at rm120
like chinese people love to say, mai fa chan fa leng (sell flower, praise the flower beautiful) or something like that lol
whatever they sell sure good, other are bullshit

market price for utr and ur is too expensive.. i mean the profit margin they earn by selling utr and ur is higher than 3max.. not because their cost is expensive or wad

The material and design are different, i don't think you can even diffferentiate.

but if u think the 3Max bar is too thin, don buy lor.

u can also throw away your 3Max 4point front and buy UR/UTR.


U* also have problems with welding, if u've ever enter their factory, then u will know.

for U*R, memang quality of materials have problems la.

Reliable Sources have told me that U*R is looking for a new manufacturer, and was recently rejected.

it was known that the material proposed was a bit cehkai and cheaper compare toother brand





same also like china absorbers, if don't like then buy malaysian absorbers lor

price cheaper ma, u org kaya can buy branded and more expensive one ma

This post has been edited by miragers: Aug 7 2008, 06:41 PM

tried UTR fender bar...i stand on it and jump around on it..didnt affect any of its shape at all..

cool, when was it??

did you check the difference of materials?

I know maybe why UR is expensive.. Maybe because UR winning the prestigious award of Asia Pacific Super Excellent Brand, Books of Record 2007/2008, presented by Asia Entrepreneur Alliance (AEA).

I just found on UR website by showing the compression test, flex test, torsion test and withness by extremekars maker.. Maybe other brand should so what like UR doing to proof their product is good and reliable.

http://www.ultraracing.com.my/ultraracing/...m.asp?menuid=17

About 3max, I also heard got problem with saga/iswara front 4 points bar. The bearing kong very fast while causes weird sound.

Not to comparing with other brand. I believe all brand have their good. As 3max, I heard from a member which sponsor by 3max and he told me give more better handling.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Aug 7 2008, 07:13 PM

that way 1 yrs ago..an ae101 fender bar

i guess i can bend 3max bar with my hand looking from the material it is made

guess where U*R get their stock of supplies from?

you can bend it with your hand, i gib u one free.

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Added on August 7, 2008, 8:01 pmTrue, we did encounter problems with the bearing, so a new version was out.

the bars are now categorized as,

saga, iswara and saga 2

problem corrected!

This post has been edited by miragers: Aug 7 2008, 08:01 PM

that is what i meant for different quality

they got the award for a reason
and u also dont compare with and without the strut bar.. even if u put wood its better than no bar installed.. the question is whether the bar maximise the effect or juz purely mild effect? cost to cost, they doesnt differ much, so i would end up with UTR as compared with UR and they have similar design and size and perhaps, material. comparing with 3max, price does not differ much with UTR and yet, poorer quality.. previously i bought 3max coz i thought they are similar with other leading brand but i was wrong after comparison even howie from AG told me the differences.. but no choice lor coz that time i dont know any utr or ur dealer .. i guess this summarise the purpose of the whole thread.. closing