QUOTE(heiren @ Aug 7 2008, 02:59 PM)
Typical China style mentality.Take it or else next please, there's a long queue waiting behind you.
If you're going to ask a first class honours to be paid sub RM2,000 level, just like how comrades do in China where doctors, engineers, accountants, actuators all earn the same life ain't going to be meaningful.Don't even try to bring hell here.I'll like to remind you that this is not communist country.
If your are currently underpaid yourself or you're some sick person who loves slave driving, it's time that you look for a new job.These MNCs are here just to take advantage of our country's economic situation.
Essentially, there IS a long queue waiting.
Want better pay? Move out of the country.
Added on August 7, 2008, 4:59 pmQUOTE(zer0hour @ Aug 7 2008, 03:25 PM)
I disagree completely. Maybe you misunderstood me.
1. You must differentiate rank (corporate rank) and position (roles and responsibilities). When I said analyst, I meant the rank of A1, i.e. an analyst being a first year MNC IB rank. I did not mean the position of analyst as in research analyst. A research analyst is a 5th year or so position, and is typically Senior Associate or VP rank. Those guys earn like RM300k a year. You are correct that fresh grads going into research will have the rank of analyst, but their position is assistant research analyst. As for them 'not paying RM140k', you are sadly mistaken.
2. In recruitment criteria they roughly are. My intent was to give an example of the best universities in each country. Remember that not all Ivy League universities are made equal too. Some are better than others in their respective fields.
Added on August 7, 2008, 3:36 pmI've renumbered your sentences so I can reply accordingly.
1. You are correct about McKinsey and Co. A fresh grad joins them as a Business Analyst, and must leave after 2 years. If you do well enough, McKinsey pays for your Masters. If not, sorry la. Out.
There are very few BAs in the Malaysia office.
2. I never said it was a realistic expectation for the majority. My point is simple, there -are- these jobs out there, but there aren't many. If you want one, make yourself as strong as you can, and strive for it accordingly.
3. Most do not return, you are correct. However, some do. For whatever reasons, family, friends, SO, etc. I am one of them.
4. I disagree here. There's a huge variance between the strongest graduates and the weakest. After a few months training (typically 6 months), a fresh mathematically inclined 23year old trader can make millions for his firm. Directly quantifiable, on-the-floor profits. On the other hand, 10 lesser graduates may not be able to, and may even lose money in the capital markets. Worth the RM140k? Definitely.
5. You are somewhat correct here. Maybe not 1 hand, but there aren't many. 10 a year? 15 a year? 20 a year? Something like that.
Which MNC IB's pay RM140K per year for fresh graduates in Malaysia? None that I know of. Malaysia is not even a regional financial hub and its capital markets are thinly traded so why should they pay exhorbitant amounts? Foreign funds which invest in Malaysia (which is not much to speak of in the first place) buy and sell on pre-determined weighted programs and certainly have no need for smart alecky number crunchers to do that for them - the only need order takers which your average equity broker can do just that. The traders who make the really big bucks in IB are the fixed income folks - and the fixed income market is severely under-developed in Malaysia which means those FI traders will need to ply their trade in Singapore, HK and Japan if they want to make decent $$.
Some Ivy leagues may be better than others in certain fields but there is no conceivable way that a University of Melbourne can stand up to Oxbridge or a MIT in any business related fields.
This post has been edited by SPS: Aug 7 2008, 04:59 PM