Opening cafe or kopitiam, any experience?
Opening cafe or kopitiam, any experience?
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Aug 4 2008, 11:58 AM
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To open a F&B line, the most challenging is how to hire a kitchen cook .The most advantage is if yourself know how the food receipt, then it easier.... Secondly, my advise, dont spend so much on renovation. The most important in a F&B line is the kitchen. I suggest you survey around all the F&B line, there is a way to renovate it & look luxurious with simple & lesser cost renovation.(i did observe quite a lot that just renovate simple but their restaurant look luxurious) |
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Aug 4 2008, 03:16 PM
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TS! I suggest you can ignore to have live band....you can anytime play ur own songs..eventually live band cost a lot & it can be not that attractive....the most important is your quality of food & convenience of feeling when the consumer step into your restaurant.... I could suggest you that a sum of RM100k would help you the start up cost... A F&B line have 3 major categories which are the 1.) Bar & cashier 2.) Shop floor 3.) kitchen The most important you should concentrate is kitchen & the most investment of cost is the kitchen because the equipement for cooking(is stainless steel), i can suggest you opt for a used god condition kitchen equipment. From the 100k breakdown, spend abt RM35k to 45k for kitchen, renovation abt Rm30k(try to minimize), 15k for small items(table,chair,glass,cutlery,cabinet) & 10k for others. No need spend on high hp air conditions as i did survey nowadays malaysian tends to seat with fan only(this could save u a lot)..... Last but not least, your head count from bar to kitchen. At initial stage, try minimize your head count not more than 10 ppl(kitchen=4, shop floor=3, bar =2). My last advise, try to persoanally work in a restaurant & experience the tail & head of the business.I did that for a part time to understand the entire busineess. I had plan my F&B restaurant abt 5 years ago & now im still waiting for the right time. |
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Aug 5 2008, 10:27 AM
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JOrdy!!
That estimation cost is i already quoted from a contractor that i knows. Its depend how you want it to renovate your shop....If you does a lot of homework u can do it with lesser cost but if you just only rely on your renovation contractor, i can bet you thhe 50k is nothing. A nice location is the generic ppl perspective for a business, but do you aware some F&B can survive in a outskirt place. Remember a strategic location will increase your cost & competitiveness.Its has good & bad....Strategic location does not gives you a gurantee of business growth. Try to survey at bangsar telawi 3. I used to work one of the branches F&B restaurant there unfortunately the owner close down becos the so call strategic location business does not able to cover the initial investment cost. Thhe owner close all this branches at bangsar, hartamas but only remain the only his F&B at BU centrepoint(2nd floor)....that place is no way so call straetgic location compare to bangsar & hartamas.... My personal advise, try to minimize you initial cost & do a lot of homework & i gurantee you can do it with the minimal cost. The higher initial cost u invest, the slower your business ROI & if u cant sustain, you will thats it. Start your business & dont compare to others strong capital franchise business like kopitiam....A business should growth from small to big(unless you have straong tycoon financial backup).... |
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Aug 6 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(hEhEhE @ Aug 5 2008, 02:11 PM) Thank you guys for all the inputs. I'm interested in F&B biz and my purpose of creating this thread is to gather some opinion and info. I do believe renovation can be done at minimal cost. Look at some of the franchise outlet, they only paint the wall and hang some nice photo, no full wall tiles. Dear bro!!you really get my point of view & you hit my jackpot..congrat bro.....this is what i call renovate with minimum cost & it has the unique look....My additional personal advise to you, jsut paint your top wall in black colour & not bright colour..& when i gurantee you will save another penny of renovation cost... Hope you get what i meant. Good luck bro...Location wise, alternatively can consider office area or business center. It is to cater office crowd for breakfast and lunch, little for dinner I guess. My last advise, the kitchen & food is the most important for a F&B business. You can have no knowledge on others sector but you must have the food knowledge & how to cook & you must in control of the chef. |
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