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post Mar 23 2010, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Mar 23 2010, 12:34 AM)
Problem is, if I leave the beaded rain water on my black car, I'll get some stains the next morning. Is it called water spots?
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it is protected it should not....compare both side of my paint



only when u have neglected it


come lets organised a hand on party for u ok...get me a group....


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QUOTE(m|ng @ Mar 23 2010, 09:05 AM)
Very nice work mate. the condition of the leather was horrible. See also sakit-hati  sweat.gif
You scrub it with a solution before applying the leather conditioner?

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thanks buddy

yes to the above question...i am only here to show...ordinary people like u and me also can detail...all u need is heart & a passion....


need not to have a phd.....


do u have any machines? wanna learn how to use


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post Mar 24 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Mar 23 2010, 09:05 AM)
Very nice work mate. the condition of the leather was horrible. See also sakit-hati  sweat.gif
You scrub it with a solution before applying the leather conditioner?

Saw you mentioned Osren in your posts. seems like gold. where can I get it?
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cheap & good stuff

only u need megs aloe to compliment it

will pm u
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Mar 25 2010, 02:40 PM)
i use the meguiars carnauba wax ... the 3 - 1 that come with paint cleaner, polish and carnauba wax.

yes, last time i read from on9 forum, for clay, some people use water, some use car shampoo and some use QD as medium which is the most espensive among the 3 options  tongue.gif

btw, sealant first or wax first ?

sealant not suppose to lock the wax ? hence it should be after wax ...
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Most carnuba waxes lasted about 2-3 weeks the most...IMHO....protection is protection & PREPS is the key to succeed yr detailing....

wax is just 10% of the total detailing & washing maybe another 10%

the rest of it...still fall back to your prep work......if u are building a house....roof is the last thing u put on to protect


your foundation is the most important...structure.....beams.....wall & ceiling... PREPARATIONS


the 5 steps.....only when u have properly prepare yr paint ...now u protect.....hand polish cant remove swirls, neither waxes removes stain....


check out my black.....after rain meguiars USA


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same goes with detailing.....I only encourage u guys to google harder...see what the pro's is using & achieving...when comes to football i look at David....golf....tiger.....squash...nicole...badminton ...Lee CW.
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wax is just wax

Sealant is sealant...

polish is polish

clay is clay

compound is compound

QD is QD

if u do not flow with it ......it will not bring out the best of it



WAX doesnt need much time to cure...maybe 30minutes

sealant does at least 8 hours.


UQD at least overnite

so there is no point to apply 100 layers of wax.sealant & QDs..when it is not prep properly.....it is like putting makeup without washing & neglecting the rest of the days & weeks


extreme detailing HERE !!!!!!!!

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post Mar 26 2010, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Mar 25 2010, 02:40 PM)
i use the meguiars carnauba wax ... the 3 - 1 that come with paint cleaner, polish and carnauba wax.

yes, last time i read from on9 forum, for clay, some people use water, some use car shampoo and some use QD as medium which is the most espensive among the 3 options  tongue.gif

btw, sealant first or wax first ?
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sealant not suppose to lock the wax ? hence it should be after wax ...
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sorry buddy

i miss out the
3 in 1 ....is good....but certainly it will not last as long as just pure waxes.......

the cleaner have the cleaning power, polish is polish & both don't have protection power

now when u add yr wax inside these two ....it became a very handy product...use any time i want for quick detail...but durability is my next question.....


to my observations......I use alot of all in one products...some of which already blown the American detailer......& i usually protect it with wax or sealant

& top up with UQD...(i am using the body shop version M135)


see what they say about megs PRC (aio aka 3in 1)
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post Mar 28 2010, 05:54 PM

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A rare jewel.........BMW E46 convertables M3 thats come with the BMW phone

a full interior detail
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I have also chk with my Friend who is a tech adv, he has not seen any of this convertables that comes with BMW hand phone... truly rare indeed
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with a gratitude to the onwer & his generousity.... PRESENTing to you ladies & gentleman......
1st steam spas & detailing for this UDM.....

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for rest write up pls read here
http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2010/03/p...er-m3-just.html

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post Mar 29 2010, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjack228 @ Mar 29 2010, 06:59 PM)
Just did some maintenance on the family car laugh.gif 

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Is this consider orange peel effect ?
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yes...but come on yr black rock.....keep it by washing it carefully...& it is not what u applied but how u maintain....once a year of once a week maitainance of once a month'.....i have an exotic car owner weekly spend 6 hours & ended up swriling the car like crap ///////// crab//////// fill in the blanks....over o & with the wrong product...he used rubbing compound on the paint...ultimately the paint died
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post Apr 1 2010, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 1 2010, 01:02 PM)
We can't put the blame on the solvents. All clear coats that come straight out of the factory feels so rough that you think the car was sandblasted instead of being painted. They are they polished to showroom finish before delivering to their customers. Why do you think that BMW and Merc do not have this problem? They are given a good polish before it is delivered to their customers. I know of this as the carwash I go to is also where Auto Bavaria in Glenmarie sends their brand new cars to be polished before delivery to their customers. Comes out without any orange peel effect.

So where do you think our local car makers would send it for polishing before delivery?
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YES the answer lies in the solvent issue....VOC compliance .... if u have done enough detailing or hang enough n international sites long enough....BMW has the worst orange peel....dont take my words..... The germans is taking this issue strongly, so resulting OP OP OP & all over the world BMW onwer facing this issue


check this ut

here also

here pls



new car free orange peel


it looks like the dimples of an orange peel. BMW's are getting worse with each generation

BMW EACH GENERATION GETTING WORST OP


Each year, automotive manufacturers spend the equivalent of millions of Euro dollars on measuring the paint surface defect known as `orange peel'. This paper uncovers the near invisibility of orange peel to customers and questions the need for this expenditure on on-line orange peel measurement. Face-to-face survey techniques were used to establish that customers either did not perceive the paint feature known as orange peel as detrimental to a surface or could not differentiate between surfaces with differing amounts of orange peel. This leads to the suggestion that assumptions made about the need to measure orange peel could be examined, and, if measurement is found to be unnecessary, costs in the automotive industry could be reduced.

BUT who cares?????...only obssesive complussive disorder Detailer....see that imperfection...to a day to day consumer...drivers...who cares what is swirls ...hologram....but to us..this is paint defects


As for my beloved IXORA owner. MY strong recomendation is this..if u are thinking of show casing yr car in a museum or show room...i wld suggest to do a complete sand down ...if it is a DD....& u can leave with it..otherwise u need thousand of ringgit $$$$$$??? to repaint it..just continue to care for it...& detail it

IF ppl suggest u to sand down yr car & removed ...just dont be nuts....very soon u will see the bones......CC premature failures

IF others says they can compund & polish off.....I doubt his skill & judgement....

Last 8 months i have done a series over a hundred cars...from light to heavy correction...& we have been posting all over the world forum to complete with others international detail

check out what the UK says about my wet sand thread PLS chk out the authenticity
Acidised Civic - Corroded Clear coat challenge (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
. kc's over 5,610 viewer


and same goes with merc...honda...toyota....lexus.....perodua....& almost of...but the champion is BMW


also one of our Malaysia sifu started off just like Enthusiast , got his work featured in US Meguiars New letter...I believe the 1st Malaysian Achieved it....so like what adidas says....IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING" & good old nike ...will remind u of JUST DO IT.....

lets continue to strive to detail of ride better

tackling orange peel problem

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post Apr 2 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjack228 @ Apr 2 2010, 03:00 PM)
thx for all the reply  smile.gif 

As it was a new car , thought that the paint was suppose to look like that , until I started to touch on detailing which only I got to know its a paint defects  blush.gif
yes its a *Weekly drive car  tongue.gif  , only me in the house care for the car , others just dun care about it , swirls nor hologram or imperfection .

For me , people who drives a car should also need to know how to take care of their car inside out not just drive it  smile.gif

Btw , is there any bad sides for polishing the windscreen ? I mean long-term one , as my wiper judder when raining  unsure.gif

2. my car roof top got water mark which cant be removed by washing it nor waxing it , any other way to remove it beside polishing ? which i leave it to the last resort
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Hey buddy

Nice to hear from u

Kep up the detailing .....as for the roof above stains...u may try swirls X .....by hand...

let me know if u need any help


Cheers

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post Apr 2 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Apr 2 2010, 09:31 PM)
Lets say the car is pretty dirty sad.gif
Can i just hose it down and wipe it with a microfibre cloth? Any bad issues if i use my hand and wash? Sometimes when wetting the car, i tend to use my  palm, fingers to just remove the dirt/dust on the car off.
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i guess that is the most expensive cloth u will ever get.....its a human skin & thats yours....i use too do like that initially ...till i found the correct method.....the old school of thoughts is 2 bucket wash ...1 bucket of soapy water & another bucket of water to rinse yr microfibers or wash mith,,,,problem is this...very trouble some & required long time

now i discover ONR optimum no rinse wash...i can still wash my car without rinsing it all over again after my shampooing-- all i need is diluting 1 ounce of ONR bo rinse solution (not soapy at all) & then 8 litre of waters....i can wash liow with 3 micro fibers

1st to soak into the ONR bucket & 2nd & 3rd microfibers to wipe dry... initially i read the same thing i type now...hard to belive but ...till i tried it now....i know
i always do a50/50 comparission

the side that is not ONR washed water still retained there..but the side i wash the ware just beads down...

i will post u some pic


QUOTE(wilsonjack228 @ Apr 2 2010, 09:38 PM)
If really dirty I suggest  to wash using wash solution. yes u can , but must take caution as the dirt might scratch the paint job . Might scratch the paint also using the hand as u wipe , the dirt is being pulled. better off using a good microfibre  blush.gif
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thanks u r right..the least aggressive method is the safest method
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post Apr 11 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(rhesusv @ Apr 10 2010, 08:33 PM)
kc , may iknow where can i get 1 bottle of ONR no rinse wash ???
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sure i will pM u

siorry for late reply ya


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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Apr 10 2010, 04:34 PM)
How much does it roughly cost to wetsand an entire Proton Savvy?
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wah low yeah

what happen mate?

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post Apr 20 2010, 10:59 PM

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[I had this wonderful opportunity, invited to come along to detail one & only Limited edition...

she comes with this beautiful 19" rims, thats keep her on the road...i guess 4 of these can easily buy a car...


then moving on the rims...ONR wash

pic before
dirt grim dust brake dust tar plenty of contaminations
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if these section of the car is not wash properly ....there is a transference of contamination to the rest of the car

as brake dust flew everywhere from there……u know where?

wool washing mitts...from my old ROB wool pad....sprayed with Optimum All cleaner

ta da...see what i collected
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Optimum All cleaner agitating & brushing off with wheel brushes
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next clay & lube with ONR no rinse wash dilution of 2 ounce with 450 ml water
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Spray, buff off & walk away
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ready to be wax

wipe & buff off at the same time

ta da

simple effortless washing & detailing

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thanks to my my magic portion
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post May 1 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Apr 30 2010, 04:10 PM)
i am very noob in auto detailing. Any sifu can teach ar? I normally Wash car with car shampoo and then dry it then wax it with Kit Metallic Wax. That is all.
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hi & welcometo car detalling world


there are many sites that offer u full detailung guide for free started by all my detailng buddies in malaysia

check them out

seech

fish

or mine
http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

i will be conducting a detailing session soon, pls pm me to reservaed a seat
its free



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post May 5 2010, 04:02 PM

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[QUOTE=]Hmmm, is there any product that can fills the scratches and swirls, easy as liquid to apply??
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a very irresistible questions!!!asked by one of the forumer

salute bro

I got a new product all u need to do is wipe on & walk away & will cover every fault...for any faulty paint condition

bonjour
cava?


would u buy that????

in replying
there is no way........ no short cut.....there are 3layers of paint on every ride...
premier - base coat between the car body & paint, 2ndly paint that is our car colour 3rdly clear coat...as the protection of paint

over harsh & wrong techniques of washing..it will wear down this CC..... prematurely...

initially....minor strokes of scratch ...later RIDs randomly scratch & oxidation bring the road to doomed

some of its pics
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washing damaged - cayman - limited edition 777 units produce & only 1 in 'sia

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washing damaged - honda accord

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e 60 - washing damaged & was sent for correction but ended with more damage - buffing trails aka HOLOGRAMMING - done by un trained hands

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nissan frontier - washing swrils supposely sent to a pro shop ...ended over done...paint burnt

staying in apartment how to wash my own
& have to que up on sun just to wash
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another regular road side washing ride
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Lexus ....washing swirls by the ahmad

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brand new crv ..post deliver paint defect

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abuse...abuse...abused



at the end of the day ...prevention is better than cure


is there any short cut ...nope...it need a certain amount of corrections



The very reason started car detailing clinics is to bring out this awareness
the power lies in the hands of every owners...to shine it or scratched it

here is what i do
http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2010_04_11_archive.html

test results
http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2010_04_04_archive.html
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post May 11 2010, 11:06 PM

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brake light correction..with Megs M205 & CCS cutting foam & polishing with CCS polishing foam
before pics
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to this
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now let me remind you what u might have miss or might over looked


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almost everybody glances thru thought it is just a shot...but this is a reflection shot...thanks to my buddy for his patience & passion.....

ta da
mirror shine again
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thanks for viewing our detailing adventure tales again

view the rest of the post

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post May 15 2010, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(valkjr @ May 15 2010, 04:45 PM)
where can we get our hands on the detailer tape in kl or penang area? ACE Hareware or?
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u can get them in Ace..both the have 3m blues & the other 14 days stick free
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post May 20 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 19 2010, 03:31 PM)
My office car park is undergoing some major construction now. So everyday it's really dusty. And since it rains almost daily, my car will look like this after 1 day. Need to bear with this for about 4-5 months sad.gif
Hosing it with water didn't make much difference. Anything I can do?
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just 3 caps to 8 litres of water & no need a second bucket......as i left the 2nd bucket to rinse off the rims cleaning later
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after ONR mixtures....blueish ...water tension now is created to hold dust below & same time washes & lubricate
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rear bonnet before wash...
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after soaking the 1st microfibers in ONR...wipe on & buff dry with
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after wash...now u can see TOGWT wax
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check it out
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post May 22 2010, 09:27 AM

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just happend to detail this with optimum no rinse wash

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for the full write up pls check here
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post May 26 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ May 25 2010, 10:08 AM)
Just want to know is my step correct for washing and waxing?

1)Rinse car - good
2)Use PolyGlaze Wash and Wax Shampoo with foam to wash - try not to use foam......we polish with foam pad..it can be abbrassive
3)Then clay with PG no:1 (my car metal gray) then rinse of panel by panel- yes good- what is yr lube?
4)Use Soft99 Meta to wax with Wax sponge then buff off with MF cloth - good if u want to remove stains (but becareful it is highly contain kerosene like solvent) very abrassive...
5)Use Kit Metalic Wax with wax sponge then buff off with MF cloth...good

Is my step correct? exellant bro
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Aston martin just detail
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some pics before & all i took is 50 minutes from this
ONR wash

quick ONR washed...50/50% pics

remember before

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after
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after a good bath

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i need to protect her till the owner return

after Optisealing her

tqs for viewing again

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a little patience & plenty of passion


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post May 27 2010, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ May 26 2010, 11:46 PM)
if no: 2  Sponge not ok, then i will change to MF to wash
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yupp

actually what causes swirls is the cloth we used, the frictions

just be generous in changing them,.,,3 sets at least per yr rather than spending thousand of $$$ just to respray
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post May 29 2010, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ May 27 2010, 10:35 AM)
My car only 2 month old (metal gray), but it fail in light test, can see a lot swirls with light shining at it at certain angle,  no idea how to remove it, any compound can first those swirl?   rclxub.gif i using Hand waxing.
I bought a cheap  wax sponge  for waxing....but it did more swirl than prevent when apply a little pressure while waxing.
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2 thing here
what do u mean by fail lighting test?

ANY CLOSE UP PICS?

QUOTE(m|ng @ May 28 2010, 09:46 PM)
Mates. can foam pad on a rotary buffer cause swirls?
Reason im asking is because i have this feeling that my car has more swirl marks after I used a Black & Decker Rotary Buffer.

for the wax im using Mothers Glaze and sealer.
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rotary is rotary profesional polishing machine can be quite damnaging....Black & decker is orbitor

look at this 5 series, just arrive from UK...plenty of swirls & the dealer try to cover it by sending it to polish & hologram aka burnt mark from the rotary spinning (look like yr cc hologramming , it moves as the light shinines)
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after 13 of heavy correction by Rotary
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FOR REST OF THE WRITE UP BY READ HERE

another damaged....done while my friend sent to a professional shop to remove water stains & swirls....paint got burned (chipped)
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GAVE SOME LESSON TO THE OWNER & later on HE DID ON HIS CAR...and corrected the rest
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ANOTHER DAMAGED

HERE

but nevertheless it is not very hard just need some guidance & proper directions

let me know if u r interest to try hands on
here are some of my olders tools

here

one of the latest we corrected 20 hours

look at the 50% / 50% WE DID ON a GT3 rear wings
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QUOTE(h4dRi @ May 29 2010, 12:36 PM)
to wash and wax..just use microfiber cloth but please avoid those synthetic one because it doesn't work, the same goes with chamois cloth too..i've  test with all sort of sponge before for wash and wax, but in the end microfiber cloth is still the best..
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yes agreed....try avoid sponge

wanna to know how can u wash without rinsing
my detailing blog

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