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jackal400
post Mar 30 2011, 05:51 PM

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Hi sifu sifu sekalian, I have a problem over here and really looking forward on the answers that you guys are providing to me.

My prob lies on the wax spots that appears a few days later after my detailing session. I did followed Meguiars 5 basic car care steps and yet I'm still puzzled with the outcome. FYI, I did let the wax to undergo at least 10 mins of drying process and did a swipe test after that. The swipe test result was okey. I'm using hand application and gold class Meguiars paste wax just FYI.

Any solution to my problem?

This post has been edited by jackal400: Mar 30 2011, 06:00 PM
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post Mar 30 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Mar 30 2011, 05:08 PM)
Personally, I use quick wax (megs UQW) after washing. Did UQD once, not really fond it cos the protection goes off real soon.. whereas shine level, hmm.. i'm a little bit over UQW cause it gives the carnuba looks, which I like A LOT.. biggrin.gif

all this are solely on UQW and UQD.. other QD I not too sure.. but after ONR wash, the shine is great!

However, between UQW and Aquawax... I prefer UQW more. smile.gif
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Hi bro, speaking of Quick Detailer, can the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Detailer be used after their Synthetic liquid polish is applied on to the car?
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post Mar 30 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 30 2011, 05:57 PM)
Hi bro, speaking of Quick Detailer, can the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Detailer be used after their Synthetic liquid polish is applied on to the car?
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I do not know the system of Turtlewax bro. However, if the polish is wax (as per TW's definition).. I believe it is safe. smile.gif

update: from what I gather, it seems the Syn Liquid Polish is a wax (per TW definition)... then it can be used then smile.gif.. actually even if its a 'polish' (as per detailers' definition), a QD can be used too.. But, it is wrong to use polish as LSP..


Added on March 30, 2011, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(jackal400 @ Mar 30 2011, 05:51 PM)
Hi sifu sifu sekalian, I have a problem over here and really looking forward on the answers that you guys are providing to me.

My prob lies on the wax spots that appears a few days later after my detailing session. I did followed Meguiars 5 basic car care steps and yet I'm still puzzled with the outcome. FYI, I did let the wax to undergo at least 10 mins of drying process and did a swipe test after that. The swipe test result was okey. I'm using hand application and gold class Meguiars paste wax just FYI.

Any solution to my problem?
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do you have photo of it?

10mins curing time is a window of period only. it depends a lot of factor. is u apply thin enough, in our climate, by the time u done consecutive panel, the earlier layer can be buffed liao...

mind elaborating ur waxing process/steps?

thank u smile.gif

This post has been edited by capiche: Mar 30 2011, 06:24 PM
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post Mar 30 2011, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Mar 30 2011, 06:14 PM)


Added on March 30, 2011, 6:24 pm

do you have photo of it?

10mins curing time is a window of period only. it depends a lot of factor. is u apply thin enough, in our climate, by the time u done consecutive panel, the earlier layer can be buffed liao...

mind elaborating ur waxing process/steps?

thank u smile.gif
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Unfortunately, I did not snapped any photos. The wax spots that I'm facing is like sort of whitish wax which has not been buffed off in my case.

Anyway, here are my waxing process:

1) using a dry foam applicator and dip a very minimum amount of wax by going through a complete circle of the can. And yes, I dipped it by using the edge of the foam applicator.

2) apply the wax in a circular overlapping motion with little amount of pressure being applied and work it out till it's almost non-visible.

3) proceed to the next panel and followed by step 1) & step 2). usually, I would be able to cover my car within the 10 mins timeframe and then immediately buff off the whole car.


Oh btw, I'm applying the wax on a warm surface.
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post Mar 30 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Mar 30 2011, 06:58 PM)
Unfortunately, I did not snapped any photos. The wax spots that I'm facing is like sort of whitish wax which has not been buffed off in my case.

Anyway, here are my waxing process:

1) using a dry foam applicator and dip a very minimum amount of wax by going through a complete circle of the can. And yes, I dipped it by using the edge of the foam applicator.

2) apply the wax in a circular overlapping motion with little amount of pressure being applied and work it out till it's almost non-visible.

3) proceed to the next panel and followed by step 1) & step 2). usually, I would be able to cover my car within the 10 mins timeframe and then immediately buff off the whole car.
Oh btw, I'm applying the wax on a warm surface.
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since u say work until become invisible film, means u r applying rather thin.. how many buffing towels u used? IMHO, the more the merrier during buffing off wax cause it makes thing easier. once MF is condensed, its quite difficult to absorb d..

i guess most prob is the warm surface causes the streaking... Since u using Gold Class, u shud know it has higher carnuba content.. if u played with pure carnuba wax before, once ur finger touch on it.. the wax melt immediately... so if with warm surface, i guess most prob is the wax has dried up..

try using plenty of QD and wipe. if not, cleaner/wax it. smile.gif

hope i help smile.gif

This post has been edited by capiche: Mar 30 2011, 11:41 PM
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post Mar 31 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 25 2011, 04:19 PM)
When is the clinic?  Really want o learn from u sifu....
hi Buddy
this sun - you got a rotary?? call me ya

QUOTE(tchtax @ Mar 25 2011, 05:54 PM)
Me too !!  tongue.gif
sure, do you also have a rotary? call me for details

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Mar 25 2011, 11:41 PM)
Actually i was referring the best wax I've been use now. Their got a lot range product and brand out there and meguiar's its not a Top product.
But it good for consumer
yes & no
it all depend what you are looking at
I started with them, mostly consumers range but to get to where a detailer are - far from it, cos they do have Professional range - thats where my many gallons & $$$ gone

it was good - until i discover OPTIMUM NO RINSE WASH, then curious & tried all 5 OPT & got hook on to it

I used to spend hours weekly to wash & wax my car, many hours more to post in meguairsonline.com..(i think I have the most posting from Malaysia or even ASIA...hahahahahahahahaha) .......after some time when our family multiplies- i can afford that luxury time liow,...

many detailers wants an instant gratifications & ended up many who uses super aggressive chemicals & harsh cleaners - look at the way car wash, cleaning the rims - in no time the coat will fail

Now ................
1.I can easily wash in 20 minutes
2.seal 3-4 times a year in 10 minutes
3.wax 5 minutes - so easy I can do it anytime & every week to make my car feel like just detail weekly
4.one Leather protectant for all interior, leathers, vinyl, rubber & plastic & best of al it is not a dressing but UV protectant
5.Power clean - the only one cleaners for the entire car & house hold too - dilutes for all you need, so strong to be an engine degreaser & gentle enough to clean even car clear coat & leathers. great for removing birds dropping, tars, stubborn stains & safe for you & gentle to yr skin


Now i have every reason to spend quality time with my little ones & wife - with this goes along way......

only required 5 & all is professional range, unlike others who has recommend you 25 of their range , the consumer la, Gold class la, NXT la, Pro la


Added on March 31, 2011, 10:18 am
QUOTE(h4dRi @ Mar 26 2011, 11:29 AM)
it's because when using the PG, i noticed my MF cloth had turn darker (my car is dark blue), my first thought maybe it's just a dirt, but to my suprise when i apply this PG on my father's white car, my MF cloth had white color on it, hence the  conclusion ..
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welcome to the club buddy

no worries, thanks for sharing

and you know where to stop now


QUOTE(tchtax @ Mar 30 2011, ,05:49 PM)
Hi all, do you normally use quick detailer or quick wax after washing? I know they have different functions, but which do you prefer? I use the detailer and it brings out a great shine.
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QD is generally used for claying purposes, inbetween for polish & compounding - a quick wipe down
Quick wax is wax - it will definately has more car carnuba in it

but both very very dear le - I only need to dilute 2 oz of ONR into 500ml water to be a QD
so cool that you can use keep a bottle at yr trunk (as it not a solvent base compare to the above 2) - to be yr QD, to clean yr paint whenever you want & esp birds dropping - that is so acidic

with clay it is the Safest & even you can use it to remove all tars, bugs stains as well (be careful when u use TAR removers, very very careful - read labels - they are corrosive)

like playing with fire le

QUOTE(jackal400 @ Mar 30 2011, 07:58 PM)
Unfortunately, I did not snapped any photos. The wax spots that I'm facing is like sort of whitish wax which has not been buffed off in my case.

Anyway, here are my waxing process:

1) using a dry foam applicator and dip a very minimum amount of wax by going through a complete circle of the can. And yes, I dipped it by using the edge of the foam applicator.

2) apply the wax in a circular overlapping motion with little amount of pressure being applied and work it out till it's almost non-visible.

3) proceed to the next panel and followed by step 1) & step 2). usually, I would be able to cover my car within the 10 mins timeframe and then immediately buff off the whole car.
Oh btw, I'm applying the wax on a warm surface.
bro

all your 1-2-3 steps is correct

but I'm applying the wax on a warm surface. & you will leave lots of wax residues,always always wash yr car in cool shaded place & only apply in cool place

avoid plastic trims & uncoated vinyls too

unless you do an ONR wash & OC wax
cos i can wipe off immediate after onr passes & OCWAX does not leave any wax residues on plastics & vinyl trims

have fun in detailin ya & you do not need to slave for yr car but enjoy yr journey ya


This post has been edited by KC's: Mar 31 2011, 10:18 AM
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post Mar 31 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Mar 31 2011, 10:14 AM)
hi Buddy

sure, do you also have a rotary? call me for details


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No rotary, leh KC. All my work guna tangan one. sad.gif
jackal400
post Mar 31 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Mar 30 2011, 11:37 PM)
since u say work until become invisible film, means u r applying rather thin.. how many buffing towels u used? IMHO, the more the merrier during buffing off wax cause it makes thing easier. once MF is condensed, its quite difficult to absorb d..

i guess most prob is the warm surface causes the streaking... Since u using Gold Class, u shud know it has higher carnuba content.. if u played with pure carnuba wax before, once ur finger touch on it.. the wax melt immediately... so if with warm surface, i guess most prob is the wax has dried up..

try using plenty of QD and wipe. if not, cleaner/wax it. smile.gif

hope i help smile.gif
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Unfortunately, im using 1 MF cloth to buff off the whole car. Could that be one of the cause too ?
Didn't know such crucial fact about carnauba thingy till u said so, really appreciate your info smile.gif. I guess i'd give it another try on this saturday and see what will happens. smile.gif

QUOTE(KC's @ Mar 31 2011, 10:14 AM)
all your 1-2-3 steps is correct

but  I'm applying the wax on a warm surface. & you will leave lots of wax residues,always always wash yr car in cool shaded place & only apply in cool place

avoid plastic trims & uncoated vinyls too

unless you do an ONR wash & OC wax
cos i can wipe off immediate after onr passes & OCWAX does not leave any wax residues on plastics & vinyl trims

have fun in detailin ya & you do not need to slave for yr car but enjoy yr journey ya
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Thx sifu KC. Will keep that in mind. smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:36 PM)
Unfortunately, im using 1 MF cloth to buff off the whole car. Could that be one of the cause too ?
Didn't know such crucial fact about carnauba thingy till u said so, really appreciate your info smile.gif. I guess i'd give it another try on this saturday and see what will happens.  smile.gif
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hmm... try using more MF when buffing.. it will certainly eases your job..

regarding the streaking, i believe most prob is due to the wax has dried up.

thats y normally ppl dun recommend waxing with machine, cause the immense heat generated could easily dry the wax up.. smile.gif

happy detailing! notworthy.gif
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It is ok to wash our car twice per week? BTW, I using Meguairs Gold class shampoo. It wont harm our clear coat right?
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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Apr 2 2011, 05:10 PM)
It is ok to wash our car twice per week? BTW, I using Meguairs Gold class shampoo. It wont harm our clear coat right?
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hi there,

it all depends how ur technique of washing n drying. make sure u are equipped with the correct ones. then u could care no less about the frequency of washing. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Apr 2 2011, 05:10 PM)
It is ok to wash our car twice per week? BTW, I using Meguairs Gold class shampoo. It wont harm our clear coat right?
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U using good car wash, so no problem's i think, Never trust out side to wash the car because their use heavy chemical and can be describe as degreaser.
anyway i also wash twice a week, some-time 3time a week depend on mood.
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Guys,

For whoever is running out of NXT car wash head over to parkson 1 utama. Went there today and saw the price being RM49.00 instead of RM63.00..

Cheers!
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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Apr 3 2011, 09:39 PM)
Guys,

For whoever is running out of NXT car wash head over to parkson 1 utama. Went there today and saw the price being RM49.00 instead of RM63.00..

Cheers!
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yeah their got promotion, same also parkson at melaka their got a-lot of stock, but i prefer gold class car wash than nxt. feel's it more thick than nxt and smells good too.

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Thinking of getting this instead of makita.. Newbie tool.. What do u guys think?

http://wetshine.net/2011/02/22/initial-imp...ice-buff-daddy/

RM700...
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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Apr 3 2011, 01:54 PM)
U using good car wash, so no problem's i think, Never trust out side to wash the car because their use heavy chemical and can be describe as degreaser.
anyway i also wash twice a week, some-time 3time a week depend on mood.
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Everytime I wash very carefully, Avoid to minimum the scratches on my car. ^^
Always buy new 1 microfiber clothes to wash it. =.=


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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Apr 3 2011, 09:39 PM)
Guys,

For whoever is running out of NXT car wash head over to parkson 1 utama. Went there today and saw the price being RM49.00 instead of RM63.00..

Cheers!
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OMg, i bought my Gold class shampoo RM78. swt la. other meguairs products also got discount? i need Ultimate Quick Detail and Gold class Liquid Wax~

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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Apr 3 2011, 11:04 PM)
Everytime I wash very carefully, Avoid to minimum the scratches on my car. ^^
Always buy new 1 microfiber clothes to wash it. =.=


Added on April 3, 2011, 11:05 pm

OMg, i bought my Gold class shampoo RM78. swt la. other meguairs products also got discount? i need Ultimate Quick Detail and Gold class Liquid Wax~
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the discount only on nxt car wash, gold class still same price. Anyway other's product like scratch-X, UQD, and UQW their having 10% discount if not mistaken.
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Hello sifus again

Just want to check with you fellas. Let's say you notice a medium scratch on your bonnet from 4 feet away, (probably from a cat) , would you use Megs ScratchX or M105 to remove it by hand. I don;t have a DAP or PC..just using the normal yellow polishing foam pads.

After this to be followed up by M205, sealant and wax.

I read that its a pain for ScratchX to break down for its effectiveness using hand. Appreciate your inputs on this.
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QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 4 2011, 05:32 PM)
Hello sifus again

Just want to check with you fellas. Let's say you notice a medium scratch on your bonnet from 4 feet away, (probably from a cat) , would you use Megs ScratchX or M105 to remove it by hand. I don;t have a DAP or PC..just using the normal yellow polishing foam pads.

After this to be followed up by M205, sealant and wax.

I read that its a pain for ScratchX to break down for its effectiveness using hand. Appreciate your inputs on this.
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I had cat scratches before.. i dealt with it via Ultimate Compound.. I believe not necessary to go till #105.. seems to aggressive for such defect.

my personal opinion smile.gif
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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Apr 2 2011, 06:10 PM)
It is ok to wash our car twice per week? BTW, I using Meguairs Gold class shampoo. It wont harm our clear coat right?
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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Apr 3 2011, 11:36 PM)
Thinking of getting this instead of makita.. Newbie tool.. What do u guys think?

http://wetshine.net/2011/02/22/initial-imp...ice-buff-daddy/

RM700...
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Hi Buddy

Let me know if you want to try ....I help you to acquired Dodo Juice Buff Daddy - you still need to set aside 250 for pads & compound & polish.....
i would say about rm 1.1K

fish did a good review BTW - he has been my inspiration
Charity detailing - hands on session with KC & Fishbonez Ken

but bear in mind - if you were to invest another 200
you will get a professional tools - like rotary

once u got it, i will train u for free ....as i have trains hundreds of them

there is no fuss about getting machines - but who is willing to guide & TRAIN ....
Febuary Hands on Rotary class session by KC

January in Kuching Hands on training

December rotary hands on class by KC

CAR CLUB CAR DETAILING HANDS ON TRAINING SESSION BY KC

OCT 2010 Hands on session with KC

July hands on session by KC


BMW CLUB rotary hands on session by KC


Professional Private Car detailing class By KC

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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Apr 4 2011, 12:04 AM)
Everytime I wash very carefully, Avoid to minimum the scratches on my car. ^^
Always buy new 1 microfiber clothes to wash it.
Careful Yes - but dont need to change MF everytime - soak it over night & brushed off

QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 4 2011, 06:32 PM)
Hello sifus again

Just want to check with you fellas. Let's say you notice a medium scratch on your bonnet from 4 feet away, (probably from a cat) , would you use Megs ScratchX or M105 to remove it by hand. I don;t have a DAP or PC..just using the normal yellow polishing foam pads.

After this to be followed up by M205, sealant and wax.

I read that its a pain for ScratchX to break down for its effectiveness using hand. Appreciate your inputs on this.
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let me know if you need some, i will give u (just try & find out yrself) - basically 105 is professional & Scratch X is consumer

I only challenge myself - if i have what they use to detail a ferrari - when my ferrari came along - i can do what they did lo

ASK FOR MORE.....pepsi


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