wan to ask Beyond car wash in penang. .
izzit good? ppl reconmend me though . .
btw, they claimed that they used autoglym product
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Mar 15 2011, 03:00 PM
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any penangities here?
wan to ask Beyond car wash in penang. . izzit good? ppl reconmend me though . . btw, they claimed that they used autoglym product |
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Mar 15 2011, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mar 15 2011, 02:53 PM) hi, Haven't tried M#21. Is it a filler or swirl remover?have been using the the Meguiar Gold Class wax and it is finishing soon....the Gold Class doesnt really fill up the swirl marks so i plan to change to another wax soon... for my next purchase, i plan to get the Meguiar 205 compound, Ultimate Paste Wax and Meguiar M21 sealant to top it up..... what do you guys think about the M#21 sealant?....from the review, it does wonder to swirl marks and it can last quite long..... Anyone knows where to purchase all these 3 items?...i hope to purchase the 64oz bottle but i dont seem to be able to find these items locally... |
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Mar 15 2011, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mar 15 2011, 02:53 PM) hi, #21 accd to Megs is the pro version of their NXT2.0.. it is just being made in the way that it can be apply via machine... however, most ppl claims it has better durability than NXT2.0have been using the the Meguiar Gold Class wax and it is finishing soon....the Gold Class doesnt really fill up the swirl marks so i plan to change to another wax soon... for my next purchase, i plan to get the Meguiar 205 compound, Ultimate Paste Wax and Meguiar M21 sealant to top it up..... what do you guys think about the M#21 sealant?....from the review, it does wonder to swirl marks and it can last quite long..... Anyone knows where to purchase all these 3 items?...i hope to purchase the 64oz bottle but i dont seem to be able to find these items locally... first of all, #21 does contains filler, but u shud not use this as paint correction.. a compound/polish should take care of this, not sealant... dun expect it will hide all sorts of imperfection.. IMHO, u dun need both ultimate paste wax (UPW) and #21... UPW is combination of sealant+carnauba... If u really plan to proceed with sealant then carnauba layering.. then purchase either UPW OR #21.. then another PURE carnauba like #16. Hope I help This post has been edited by capiche: Mar 15 2011, 05:03 PM |
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Mar 15 2011, 06:25 PM
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i have previously tried the #16 but i have better result using the Gold Class wax....the reason that i thought of trying out the UPW is that most review said that the UPW give a higher gloss and very soft effect compares to the Gold Class....
from what i have read, i thought that the #21 is more on the protection but when it comes to shine, the UPW and Gold Class would be a better choice..... Should i wax the car then only apply the sealant or sealant first only wax?...from some of the forum that i have read, Wax first then then only seal it with the sealant for a longer lasting shine.... |
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Mar 15 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mar 15 2011, 06:25 PM) i have previously tried the #16 but i have better result using the Gold Class wax....the reason that i thought of trying out the UPW is that most review said that the UPW give a higher gloss and very soft effect compares to the Gold Class.... #21 has more protection as its a synthetic sealant. UPW and GC has carnauba content.. the gloss is definitely better.. but if u talk about durability, I think nothing comes close to #16 (Meguiar's line comparison only)...from what i have read, i thought that the #21 is more on the protection but when it comes to shine, the UPW and Gold Class would be a better choice..... Should i wax the car then only apply the sealant or sealant first only wax?...from some of the forum that i have read, Wax first then then only seal it with the sealant for a longer lasting shine.... the widely used method is.. sealant -> wax... but my experience tell me, i really do not see any diff in such layering... back then when i apply nxt2.0.. I like the candy-looking it gives.. however, when i layer with #16.. the effect somehow has go away.. and all it left is pure gloss of carnauba (though #16 doesnt has cleaning properties) |
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Mar 17 2011, 12:48 PM
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long time no visit, capiche, just realise that nxt wont give so deep black like carnuba, i got one carnauba wax from turtle but it hard to remove so lazy to use.
other than that it's fill swirl and fine scratch very good, but then after rain it appear again. the look's dont hold loong. but durability still in progress ^^ |
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Mar 17 2011, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Mar 17 2011, 12:48 PM) long time no visit, capiche, just realise that nxt wont give so deep black like carnuba, i got one carnauba wax from turtle but it hard to remove so lazy to use. For dark cars, it's recommended to use the gold class.. Looks alot better. Will give the wet look. other than that it's fill swirl and fine scratch very good, but then after rain it appear again. the look's dont hold loong. but durability still in progress ^^ |
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Mar 17 2011, 09:18 PM
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there's no gloss near to those from carnauba.. thts y until now a lot detailer still prefer carnauba..
reason why GC has better gloss on dark color because it DOES contains carnauba inside.. its a hybrid.. if u found that its hard to buff off a wax.. then there's problem with ur application.. try re-do.. happy waxin.. |
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Mar 21 2011, 04:33 PM
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If our car have those small dot small dot, something like chip off by stone chip, but it not yet paint drop. Is there any way to recover it?
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Mar 21 2011, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Mar 21 2011, 05:33 PM) If our car have those small dot small dot, something like chip off by stone chip, but it not yet paint drop. Is there any way to recover it? no worriesstones chips - check out my guide here ago we did a very special porsche 1st Porsche Cayman limited edition in Malaysia Ladies & gentleman ...presenting to you...another of our detailing adventure journey together with my buddy Seech the best ever Porsche made - one of the car every drivers would love to have.......the supercar With the advent of the water-cooled 996, Porsche needed to find a way to continue the lineage of its motorsport-focused 964 and 993 RS models we detail some months ago http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2009/11/p...-f355-just.html The answer check it out here in USA Meguiars on line Added on March 21, 2011, 6:13 pm QUOTE(SKY233 @ Mar 15 2011, 04:00 PM) any penangities here? i reko man you DIYwan to ask Beyond car wash in penang. . izzit good? ppl reconmend me though . . btw, they claimed that they used autoglym product check out how i did on this new shyphl here at meguiars on line USA sites to much Enstiens here wars on waxes i show the americans what they miss - a 20 minutes of wash & 5 minutes of waxes the results meguiars USA forum on KC's works This post has been edited by KC's: Mar 21 2011, 06:13 PM |
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Mar 21 2011, 09:00 PM
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i have a doubt here, if our car doing car detailing every year, our paint clear coat will get thinner and thinner right? Correct me if I wrong~
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Mar 21 2011, 11:33 PM
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Dear all,
Sorry to trouble everyone here, I would like to ask a question. The picture is at the link below (sorry I don't know how to upload photo) - http://img851.imageshack.us/i/p1120296.jpg/ My question is, is it advisable to use this item to sweep off water from my car after washing? Will it strip wax? Thank you so much for your time |
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Mar 22 2011, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Mar 21 2011, 09:00 PM) i have a doubt here, if our car doing car detailing every year, our paint clear coat will get thinner and thinner right? Correct me if I wrong~ Unless u compound ur paint every month.. then it will be thinner.. If u r doin so, then there's problem with ur washin n maintenance technique.@Zaypher, it wont strip the wax.. however, it would definitely scrap the crap out of ur paint.. I dunno what car u drivin.. as for Perodua Myvi.. the paint is so delicate till even a wrong choice of MF instill swirls on the surface... This post has been edited by capiche: Mar 22 2011, 12:22 AM |
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Mar 22 2011, 12:23 AM
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I'm driving satria neo. So far i use before, no scrap. Just kinda worried that it may strip wax that's all. Anw, I agree with you that if you're not careful in the sense that there is dirt on your car, car surface will be scratched
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Mar 22 2011, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 22 2011, 12:23 AM) I'm driving satria neo. So far i use before, no scrap. Just kinda worried that it may strip wax that's all. Anw, I agree with you that if you're not careful in the sense that there is dirt on your car, car surface will be scratched have u tried under yellow light instead of cool daylight fluorescent tube? street lamp is the best light to check out RIDS. nothing beat this.no need dirt.. even inferior MF will cause damage. This post has been edited by capiche: Mar 22 2011, 12:41 AM |
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Mar 22 2011, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(Oliver Oh @ Mar 21 2011, 10:00 PM) i have a doubt here, if our car doing car detailing every year, our paint clear coat will get thinner and thinner right? Correct me if I wrong~ yes - you are right - so does you need to polish or compound off like capicher says!!QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 22 2011, 12:33 AM) Dear all, lesser is better, less is moreSorry to trouble everyone here, I would like to ask a question. The picture is at the link below (sorry I don't know how to upload photo) - http://img851.imageshack.us/i/p1120296.jpg/ My question is, is it advisable to use this item to sweep off water from my car after washing? Will it strip wax? Thank you so much for your time ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QUOTE(Ax XX) I did my silver car via an authorised Mxxxxxxxx detail shop. 3 to 4 layers coated on it but frankly speaking I do not like the outcome. The paint turns 'sandly feel' in less than 2 months. What I do to preserve the smooth surface is coat it up by 'Pxxxx Sxxxx' once or twice a month. Hi Buddy thanks for bringing up - 2 issue i would like to clear up here There is no such myths of 3-4 "layer coat " or 3 or 4 steps (what ever malaysia car wash / polish centre) claims - No matter how many layers of waxs, sealant, glass coating & bla bla bla - the 1st layer than counts, as it is the touch base - try applying 58 layer of wax on yr car & check it out in 30 days time, - you would find more contaminants than ever before worst still - most car polish uses rotary to wax????????? which i cant find in any label of wax- where it specify - best use - rotary at speed 6 & 12 kg of pressure with rapid kung fu strokes to polish wax the car & resulting- buffer trails - Lets clear this myths once & for all there are 5 steps towards car detailing, if you were to check out in Meguairs USA forum (in which i was trained , cyberly) - :- Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle 1st step car WASH - wash with PH balance shampoo 2nd step -CLEAN body preparation work - Claying (to remove outter contaminations) 3rd Paint correction - POLISH , Compounding for heavy correction (removing heavy swirls, holograms - inflicted by previous untrained detailer(car polish centre), minors scratches ...etc) then Polishing it to the gloss, glaze 4th protection - either wax (NXT,M21 or Opt car wax) or coating (eg opticoat) 5thly - maintainance ( a weekly wash & a monthly wax) allow me to show you wow - what a reflection - MIRROR SHINING - Mirror shining ?????? Really ke ta da - lets see the truth - pls do not be blind by my pics - as many would gives u a pictures & not the whole picture let see another reflective picture - wow better than mirror oppsssssss...........yes when it is with proper lighting - truth will be reveal Let me ask you by applying 4-5 or 45 layers coat of hwatever WXX Sxxx Cxxxx will turn this into mirror shinning I echo with many of my great sifu - that come before me - preparations , preparations , preparations & only preparations works - now can we ta da already?????? kindly answer pls now you what i did was - onr wash the car Clay with onr as lube Polish with ROTARY - compound with Lake country wool with optimum Hyper Compound, cut with lake country CCS yellow Cutting pad with Optimum hyper compound & Polish with polishing pad & optimum Hyper spray polish & finish with LC CCS Purple pad with optimum Hyper spray polish results a great make over & ta da check out the lighting now Mirror shining - the bigger pic only 1 layer of OPTI Seal, spray & spread & walk away OPTIMUM car wax spray & wipe & walk away ...and that not the end but a dawn of a new world ( a new begining) I taught & train the owner to care for his car - by a regiment of maitainance eg - a daily sweeps, weekly mop is far better than once a year spring cleaning - weekly wash by 3 MF & ONR ( just a 20 mins) a great way to begin this great journey is - a humble car wash, that we does it so often & damages built up over times monthly wax OCWax ( only 5 minutes for the entire car) - use gentle hands & left to right strokes to minimized - swirls inflicting back to the paint (be careful with paste wax & esp use with dirty or unwashed sponge pads - transference of scratches too) clay twice a year only stay tuned for the complete write up soon Lets rise up & take back our position ( I authorized you...& trust me you dont need any authorized person to handle your car) others does it for $$ but you do it out of your heart PASSIONATELY - at the end of the day every owners is the true car detailers for their car YOU can make difference today for your car |
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Mar 22 2011, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(capiche @ Mar 22 2011, 12:40 AM) have u tried under yellow light instead of cool daylight fluorescent tube? street lamp is the best light to check out RIDS. nothing beat this. Oh no I didn't no need dirt.. even inferior MF will cause damage. Bro, I am using the Mr. Clean / Perma Glass MF. The premium MF is quite expensive.. Actually that wiper thing is good for lazy bum hahaha.... Added on March 22, 2011, 7:24 amBtw bro KC, what do you mean lesser is better, less is more? Thank you This post has been edited by Zaypher: Mar 22 2011, 07:24 AM |
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Mar 22 2011, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Mar 22 2011, 08:23 AM) Oh no I didn't if you have done a prolong PG sealant - let me know our results? dont be shockBro, I am using the Mr. Clean / Perma Glass MF. The premium MF is quite expensive.. Actually that wiper thing is good for lazy bum hahaha.... Added on March 22, 2011, 7:24 amBtw bro KC, what do you mean lesser is better, less is more? Thank you Less is more - refering to the blade you used - as capiche mentioned - even a slight worn off micro fibers (suppose to be soft & tender ) but it can still smear the paint - Check it out yrself - if you have friend who has a black car & ask him to use the blade for a couples of weeks - ta da will comes out our actual car paint is coated with clear lacquer - and it is with harsh washing acidic only 2 mil of an inche (divide 1 inche into 1000 part & 2 part is the thickness of yr Clear Coat) then imagine what happend when it is constant bombarded detergent la, good morning the terry towel & blade la given a little bit time - prematurely worn off My 11 yr old kenari paint still glow & my 2 face paint still rocks - all because i do my own washing & now with ONR it is so effortless - ask those who has tried them........ This post has been edited by KC's: Mar 22 2011, 10:10 AM |
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Mar 22 2011, 11:21 AM
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Walao, KC, Great job again on that mirror shine.
I guess the key is thoroughly preparing the surface for LSP to achieve good results. For final result did you use Instant Detailer? |
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Mar 22 2011, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(tchtax @ Mar 22 2011, 12:21 PM) Walao, KC, Great job again on that mirror shine. Hi Buddy'I guess the key is thoroughly preparing the surface for LSP to achieve good results. For final result did you use Instant Detailer? You too can make a different - start today & stop letting other abusing yr ride & soon you enjoy this detailing clichéd ...... sit back - enjoy with yr glass of fine wine & admiring the details LSP is JARGON & HEAVY is just a simple wax, either u patse or spray - i choose OCWAX & in 5 minutes - ta da ID is a good alternative for OCWax most of all it is with yr TLC - detailing comes alive keep up the flame the passion & share some pic with us |
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