yes - you are right - so does you need to polish or compound off like capicher says!!


lesser is better, less is more

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Hi Buddy
thanks for bringing up - 2 issue i would like to clear up here

There is no such myths of 3-4 "layer coat " or 3 or 4 steps
(what ever malaysia car wash / polish centre) claims -
No matter how many layers of waxs, sealant, glass coating & bla bla bla - the 1st layer than counts, as it is the touch base - try applying 58 layer of wax on yr car & check it out in 30 days time, - you would find more contaminants than ever before

worst still - most car polish uses rotary to wax????????? which i cant find in any label of wax- where it specify - best use - rotary at speed 6 & 12 kg of pressure with rapid kung fu strokes to polish wax the car & resulting- buffer trails -

Lets clear this myths once & for all
there are 5 steps towards car detailing, if you were to check out in Meguairs USA forum (in which i was trained , cyberly) - :-

Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle
1st step car WASH - wash with PH balance shampoo

2nd step -CLEAN body preparation work - Claying (to remove outter contaminations)

3rd Paint correction - POLISH , Compounding for heavy correction (removing heavy swirls, holograms - inflicted by previous untrained detailer(car polish centre), minors scratches ...etc) then Polishing it to the gloss, glaze

4th protection - either wax (NXT,M21 or Opt car wax) or coating (eg opticoat)

5thly - maintainance ( a weekly wash & a monthly wax)



allow me to show you

wow - what a reflection - MIRROR SHINING -



Mirror shining ?????? Really ke

ta da - lets see the truth - pls do not be blind by my pics - as many would gives u a pictures & not the whole picture



let see


another reflective picture - wow better than mirror


oppsssssss...........yes when it is with proper lighting - truth will be reveal


Let me ask you by applying 4-5 or 45 layers coat of hwatever WXX Sxxx Cxxxx
will turn this into mirror shinning

I echo with many of my great sifu - that come before me - preparations , preparations , preparations & only preparations works -



now can we ta da already??????

kindly answer pls



now you what i did was - onr wash the car
Clay with onr as lube
Polish with ROTARY - compound with Lake country wool with optimum Hyper Compound, cut with lake country CCS yellow Cutting pad with Optimum hyper compound & Polish with polishing pad & optimum Hyper spray polish & finish with LC CCS Purple pad with optimum Hyper spray polish

results


a great make over & ta da

check out the lighting now


Mirror shining -




the bigger pic
only 1 layer of OPTI Seal, spray & spread & walk away
OPTIMUM car wax spray & wipe & walk away


...and that not the end

but a dawn of a new world ( a new begining)
I taught & train the owner to care for his car - by a regiment of maitainance

eg - a daily sweeps, weekly mop is far better than once a year spring cleaning -

weekly wash by 3 MF & ONR ( just a 20 mins) a great way to begin this great journey is - a humble car wash, that we does it so often & damages built up over times

monthly wax OCWax ( only 5 minutes for the entire car) - use gentle hands & left to right strokes to minimized - swirls inflicting back to the paint (be careful with paste wax & esp use with dirty or unwashed sponge pads - transference of scratches too)
clay twice a year only

stay tuned for the complete write up soon

Lets rise up & take back our position ( I authorized you...& trust me you dont need any authorized person to handle your car) others does it for $$ but you do it out of your heart PASSIONATELY - at the end of the day every owners is the true car detailers for their car

YOU can make difference today for your car

if you have done a prolong PG sealant - let me know our results? dont be shock


Less is more - refering to the blade you used - as capiche mentioned - even a slight worn off micro fibers (suppose to be soft & tender ) but it can still smear the paint -

Check it out yrself - if you have friend who has a black car & ask him to use the blade for a couples of weeks - ta da will comes out

our actual car paint is coated with clear lacquer - and it is with harsh washing acidic only 2 mil of an inche (divide 1 inche into 1000 part & 2 part is the thickness of yr Clear Coat)
then imagine
what happend when it is constant bombarded detergent la, good morning the terry towel & blade la

given a little bit time - prematurely worn off


My 11 yr old kenari paint still glow & my 2 face paint still rocks - all because i do my own washing & now with ONR it is so effortless - ask those who has tried them........

This post has been edited by KC's: Mar 22 2011, 10:10 AM

Hi Buddy'
You too can make a different - start today & stop letting other abusing yr ride
& soon you enjoy this detailing clichéd ...... sit back - enjoy with yr glass of fine wine & admiring the details

LSP is JARGON & HEAVY is just a simple wax, either u patse or spray - i choose OCWAX & in 5 minutes - ta da

ID is a good alternative for OCWax

most of all it is with yr TLC - detailing comes alive
keep up the flame the passion & share some pic with us

Yupp no more bad blade



no worries

come to my next month car detailing clinic

i will equipe u to do it

hi Buddy
this sun - you got a rotary?? call me ya

sure, do you also have a rotary? call me for details

yes & no
it all depend what you are looking at
I started with them, mostly consumers range but to get to where a detailer are - far from it, cos they do have Professional range - thats where my many gallons & $$$ gone

it was good - until i discover OPTIMUM NO RINSE WASH, then curious & tried all 5 OPT & got hook on to it

I used to spend hours weekly to wash & wax my car, many hours more to post in meguairsonline.com..(i think I have the most posting from Malaysia or even ASIA...hahahahahahahahaha) .......after some time when our family multiplies- i can afford that luxury time liow,...

many detailers wants an instant gratifications & ended up many who uses super aggressive chemicals & harsh cleaners - look at the way car wash, cleaning the rims - in no time the coat will fail

Now ................
1.I can easily wash in 20 minutes
2.seal 3-4 times a year in 10 minutes
3.wax 5 minutes - so easy I can do it anytime & every week to make my car feel like just detail weekly
4.one Leather protectant for all interior, leathers, vinyl, rubber & plastic & best of al it is not a dressing but UV protectant
5.Power clean - the only one cleaners for the entire car & house hold too - dilutes for all you need, so strong to be an engine degreaser & gentle enough to clean even car clear coat & leathers. great for removing birds dropping, tars, stubborn stains & safe for you & gentle to yr skin


Now i have every reason to spend quality time with my little ones & wife - with this goes along way......

only required 5 & all is professional range, unlike others who has recommend you 25 of their range , the consumer la, Gold class la, NXT la, Pro la

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Added on March 31, 2011, 10:18 amwelcome to the club buddy

no worries, thanks for sharing

and you know where to stop now


QD is generally used for claying purposes, inbetween for polish & compounding - a quick wipe down
Quick wax is wax - it will definately has more car carnuba in it

but both very very dear le - I only need to dilute 2 oz of ONR into 500ml water to be a QD
so cool that you can use keep a bottle at yr trunk (as it not a solvent base compare to the above 2) - to be yr QD, to clean yr paint whenever you want & esp birds dropping - that is so acidic

with clay it is the Safest & even you can use it to remove all tars, bugs stains as well (be careful when u use TAR removers, very very careful - read labels - they are corrosive)

like playing with fire le

bro

all your 1-2-3 steps is correct

but I'm applying the wax on a warm surface. & you will leave lots of wax residues,always always wash yr car in cool shaded place & only apply in cool place

avoid plastic trims & uncoated vinyls too

unless you do an ONR wash & OC wax
cos i can wipe off immediate after onr passes & OCWAX does not leave any wax residues on plastics & vinyl trims

have fun in detailin ya & you do not need to slave for yr car but enjoy yr journey ya


This post has been edited by KC's: Mar 31 2011, 10:18 AM

Hi Buddy

Let me know if you want to try ....I help you to acquired Dodo Juice Buff Daddy - you still need to set aside 250 for pads & compound & polish.....
i would say about rm 1.1K

fish did a good review BTW - he has been my inspiration
Charity detailing - hands on session with KC & Fishbonez Ken

but bear in mind - if you were to invest another 200
you will get a professional tools - like rotary

once u got it, i will train u for free ....as i have trains hundreds of them

there is no fuss about getting machines - but who is willing to guide & TRAIN ....
Febuary Hands on Rotary class session by KC

January in Kuching Hands on training

December rotary hands on class by KC

CAR CLUB CAR DETAILING HANDS ON TRAINING SESSION BY KC

OCT 2010 Hands on session with KC

July hands on session by KC


BMW CLUB rotary hands on session by KC


Professional Private Car detailing class By KC

Rotary Hands on detailing session by KC

3 series Car club - hands on car detailing session by KC


Careful Yes - but dont need to change MF everytime - soak it over night & brushed off

let me know if you need some, i will give u (just try & find out yrself) - basically 105 is professional & Scratch X is consumer

I only challenge myself - if i have what they use to detail a ferrari - when my ferrari came along - i can do what they did lo

ASK FOR MORE.....pepsi

HI Buddy
glad u share yr inner quest

like what i explaine above , a marginal of 200 only - why want to get a toy when u get a real thing

Rotary can do what DA does, but DA cant go the the extreme rotary does

Save up & get only Makita & i have help over dozen people to get their makita - in all those pics & we are building a Detailing community & not commercially

dont miss out for far too long

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Added on April 6, 2011, 12:18 am

1:8 is a good dilution & safe - but u cant use till it is dry ( wipe off with damp MF) \

how often? or rather i will ask why so often? - 2 answer is there children ? or did you protect it with Leather protectant or Conditioner (PURE- not another 2in 1product)

the different of Meg & optimum = Just like POS & SLR -( consumer & professional) it is often use to do a professionally




BOTH -
i use it on both my 22 yrs old car & exotic like 997




never ever play with corrosive chemicals - i do not agree even the usage of degreaser or Super deg.....worst still amonia's Rxxx-X, highly acidic corrosive like topcat

ask those who have tried on a older windscreen...lots of issue...lets show some pic...that we may know what u r facing

i do have glass polisher - for water mark - wanna give it a try



This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 6 2011, 12:18 AM

Hi bro

you do not need to clean yr leather seats that often - as it will leave a dry & coarse texture of your leather
generally every detailer will suggest do it when necessarily but however there are certain measure of precaution & maintenance routines ....we can do is
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do a weekly or bi -monthly wipe down with damp microfibers (just plain water) will be great & condition it every 2-3 once (i only deep clean every 6-12 months once) - at time i just use my steamers - to open up the leather pores

the greatest enemy of leather is oil, sweat from human & food etcs (the most acidic - corrosive substance to your leather) remember for once they are a living organism but not is preserve for yr comfort & plushy

so, if found any oil just wipe down with damp mf..... and my 11 yrs old leathers seat still gives me the comfort ...nothing like leather - genuine comfort

have fun enjoying yr journey ya & not wasting time to slave for it....

allow me to share with u
filthy interior - usually seen in chauffeur driven ride - but just a 3 years old ride only
close up & under proper lighting picture on a E60



extreme close up lighted picture ( to show you how filthy & neglected this ride is)
cant u believe the oils, stains, dirt just left it there

heavily soil leather seats

a 50% /50% seats detailing picture



i use power clean to remove old dash dressings and tough residues from interior panels. Wipe away spills and spots from leather seats. Special polymers and emulsifiers break down contaminants with minimal agitation





extreme close up



the leather seats & interior is protected & condition with Optimum protectant plus


gives your car’s leather complete protection and a low-gloss, non-greasy finish – all in a convenient spray!her Protectant cleans and protects leather seats, vinyl, trim, and moldings. The innovative protectant provides impenetrable UV protection and restores the original color of interior surfaces


I want to replaces those preservative chemicals and restores the leather and vinyl to optimum condition without leaving an oily, shiny film. Your interior looks new, not dressed.
to read the complete guide of the most extreme make over here

remember before




This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 6 2011, 01:49 PM

Mng
I love yr pics & blog
view life thru lense

you really know how to shoot great pics...when i am going up to PEN - we go photo outing ya
what macro lense u have...prefect moment & fine texture..imagine those shot on exotics..yummy bro

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Hands on Rotary session for soon.....for those interested

3 Apr
I helped one of my buddy to acquire his fullmetal jacket (Detailing starter Kits) consisting of
Makita Rotary Buffer, Backing plate, cutting, polishing pad & Compound + Polish

So my responsible is to train ,equip and empower him….with a very limited time …within days we set it on Sundays
start with Hands on


Begin with ONR wash – test out ssurface contaminations & movin on to Clay with ONR as lube


Intensive lesson consist of ….paint study, how to read paint damages – eg swirls, RIDs, scratches
proper washing techniques, clay, handling on Rotary – the correct way to hold the rotary,
the importance of buying & investing on a proper Machinery specifications, Important on Backing Plate – flexible or stiff, proper Padding for each correctional

How to use Rotary to level out the paint (managing the speed for each process& monitoring the level of cuts) for correcting the paint - damages - Compounding with wools pads, compounding with cutting pad, Polishing with Polishing pads & finishing finally the seal-ing & waxing


This Itliano ride look great from far away but near you will notice
Paint defect – Swirls & RIDS….



Machine Hands on begin…..wool pads cutting with Optimum Hyper Spray Compound …stepping down with LC cutting pad with Optimum Hyper Spray Compound …Final step down with Optimum Hyper Spray Polish with Polishing Pads



after paint leveling & correction


everyone get to try on the Machine Hands on with the Hype spray technology compound & polish


ta da





the arsenal that saves the car for the day

A 10 minutes of car exterior sealing – with Opti seal
A 5 minutes of wax – with the effortless easy & effective Optimum Car Wax

Ta da


Ta da



to read more here

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 6 2011, 11:12 PM

I like to trains detailers rather than trading

if you want the whole starter kit is RM 13xx & will hold u by yr hand to train & equipe

boleh ...mesti boleh ...anytime....either get me 10 participants or click on my site for more details for the upcoming charity details

as also mentioned..earlier





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what is there to save when u are just looking at the consumers item....OTC ..if it is PRO range bolehlah consider ye!!!!!
...get the best ...have what the detailers have ...& soon u will get the results they got

eg Meguiars on line - KC's thread

or this
what would u use if there is only 2 in malaysia


BTW....my friend - nobody who sells Rotary teaches others to be detailer...it is only hard core enthusiast does

cheerios


Cheerios

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 7 2011, 10:53 PM

wow buddy...u just got magical clicks - i love yr scenic & close up - what about we organised a detail photograph workshop to benefits others

look at the hologram on the lids of the front left hood…..brand new car with defect paint delievered – not even sent for any polish

one of my buddy who got a brand new Inspira wanted me to detail…and I asked him to come along to my detailing clinic last sunday & see what we are doing …as much as I would like to detail his ride but I rather choose to train & empower him to on his own.............




what is hologram? Authenticity of master or visa credit card emblem?????? but is is a trial left behind by rotary buffer in the wrong hand

Birds dropping are the most acidic & corrosive treats to our clear coat paint


if delayed intervention & baked under our extreme hot weather – ta da’- permanent damaged


another paint damage


just because it is white & quite impossible to get is maintain white


BTW this is only a 2 months + 308....look at the close up .....on the rids, swirls & damages inflicted by the wrong hands


it took me close to 25 hours to get this corrected & opti coat-ed

at the end of the day - nobody care for your care more than yrself - cos your are the true owner - rest of them is paid to do

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 9 2011, 08:39 AM

anytime buddy

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Added on April 12, 2011, 10:29 amhi buddy

it depend on which aspect of water beading you are looking at .....lasting or more spherical ?

how lasting would lasting? 30 days or 3 months? the important key question we need to ask ourself here is how long does it takes us to wax our car , cos that will determine how often we are gonna do it...eg ...if a regular patse wax requires 2-3 hours just put on & buff off....chances are we will avoid & skip or once in a blue blue moon - if i were to tell you that there is a wax that requires just 5 minutes - chances are you will do it weekly..i rather sacrifice the wax than my clear coat

a thin layer....one layer will do...good preparation is the key to a lasting wax (like proper wash, clay-ed, contaminations free prior waxing)....so there is no point of applying 58 layers when there is the only the 1st application is the only layer holding on to your car paint

ONR can replace - infact it is a cheaper solution to QD & UQD (imagine 2 ounces makes one bottle of them) a 32oz makes 16 bottle of them

do it effortlessly & rightly - yr ride will shines for years to come

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 12 2011, 10:29 AM

better than sending to be thrashed by others

recommended a weekly wash & a monthly wash

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Added on April 13, 2011, 10:55 pmhow do you deal with stone chips???

stone chips

dont we already have enough threats from mothernature on our paint





such as these - is this a mother nature or Human error???
before pic


now
ta da




more chips - BEFORE


MAGICALLY YOURS


another threats - improper car wash
threats inflicted professional by car washes (or road side ones)


SWIRLS is usually inflicted by our habits & the wrong way of handling washing , also techniques (wrong way of shampooing - circulating) & material used - such as sponges, worn out mitts/microfibers, drying cloth - cotton cloth - old rags, old t-shirts, jeans la....etcs...as our clear coat is only 2/1000th part of an inch

therefore I make it a point to change my Microfibers once every 3-4 months to prevent

after compounding - with OPTIMUM Hyper Spray Compound with LC Double sided wool
ta da






to read the full detail here here

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 13 2011, 11:25 PM

time will tell - u r not there yet

soon you will discover

good thing never comes cheap cheap thing never comes good

but i have fount the cheapest & most effective effortless car wash - 20 minutes & 3 microfibers....only cost RM2.80 \
using the same amount of time from yr hse to car wash - or for your bath

hi buddy
i miss your post earlier...my apologies

you need to understand - what can & cant!
there are so many consumers - who never goes beyond labels(just pick up whatever that is pleasing when they go shopping in enos or ace's !!!
then applied this la & that la - ended up worse than before - eg tom cat????? they are very acidic - so much so the moment u applied on these scuff area - ta ta ...often cant be remove

eg
glass is the hardest part of the exterior other than your rims - if you got a deep cut / scratches - chances u need to replace them or if it not obvious - ignore them

if it is water marks...i got solution for u - a professional glass polish - not another OTC - products ( i dont sell but if you want to try - come & join my hands on session - details on my blog


mitts are make for washing, a very popular product - in the older days ( same goes with sponges, terry cotton) but they are easily worn out after few washes or entraps too much dirt ( if these dirt is not clean & remove properly - it will carry off to the next wash & scratches yr paint)

therefore since MF is widely & technologically advance make & cheaply available - it is the most current cloth of all detailers are using world wide...but sad sad to say - many of our car washes still using them

eg....using rotary to wax yr car????? does any wax label stated u must use machine or rotary sat 3000rpm spins to wax yr car???/ wax is wax just applied on & buff off - (apply in cool surface & tips a thin layer - wait 30 mins buff off) dont do it under then sun.....but many baked their customer car under our 36degrees natural oven

eg...many ladies or aunties are using 4g Iphone but how many of them are using free calls??????
such an advance state of art changgeh device but they are only making voice call or web browsing onli

they are Skype - myvee free wifi calls - this prove a majority Malaysian doesn't really bother about the usage / functions which is make for but to show off

what is the use having such technology savvy gadgets ....we too need to continuously ...updates ourself

see what these american , european or germans are doing - emulate their success




can but very expensive try out for just a consumer range products -
I recommend u to try ONR (1 ounces + 7 litres water) + 3 microfibers to wash yr car in 20 minutes

dilute 2 ounces of onr into a 500 ml of water & clay (PG clay 29.00) which is 4 times cheaper than megs

Look at what i found
Chewing Gums like tars stains


I choose the least aggressive way.....


ta da


the usual suspect...

TARS
the most easy & effortless...effective....safe.... tar remover
before

ta da


only scratches left - to be polish off

TAR education - TIPs

whenever after any 2 x 2 feet area clayed - we should stop & check for any Visible sighted contaminants - such as tars, dust, sands or brake dust

Note
Failing to do such - you might transferred A to B & contaminate another area with scratches..etcs...

STOP! In the name of Love - before you hurt me!!!



remove them prior folding to a new area & continue to clay the next area

lastly can u wax yr car in 5 minutes & in USA they guarantee a 4-5 months durability strength

btw an ONR wash is only rm2.5( the same amount of soap u spent on yr car & cloths & body - cos after a wet car wash of 150 litres of waters + 10 minutes bath + another sets of clothing = more wastage esp in time


now i spent less & have more resources for other things


will PM u

somebody PLEASE CALL POLICE + dont do it...stop & do some homework searching
once kena & u say say bye bye - cost u more money & time to replace them

water mark can be remove temporary by polishing or compounding with hands or machines but it will resuface back after months

what i use is opti coating it for permanent

for those who is interest to learn & to be trained - pls look out at the details of my next hands on detailing charity sess on my blog

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 20 2011, 10:47 PM

come pls by all mean & learn together

that was the reason that we have this session


thanks buddy

why not
look at these


by hand no machine or running water - OHSC

\before


after


do bit by bit - one part at a time
read more here

I would say if it is by hand you need compound - if you have a rotary optimum hyper spray polish
as it has both weight & speed for it to level up the paint


I will pm u the details

bro these are just some detailing toys - get the real thing

eg



to this


read more here in meguuiars on line USA
meguiarsonline.com]


no worries that is the reason i am doing the hands on session

details here

my tag line is this

SHOW ME YOUR WORK !!!! as knowledge puff u up

This post has been edited by KC's: Apr 22 2011, 05:22 PM