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post Oct 11 2010, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Oct 11 2010, 11:08 AM)
Hi Ralf how r u doing

Glad to hear from you again.... lets TT
the difference btween Kit wax or Kit metallic coat....is one for metalic & another for 1k paint....to me both is the same product...only market for consumers....Carnuba wax, hard to APPLY & EASY TO COME OFF.....many country already ban them as they do not comply to VOC(environmental test  fail)...thats why sealant & synthetic waxes comes out....but make the car very dull too over usage of them....

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Yeah..i am fine. Now shopping for new type of sealant perhaps OPTICOAT that you recommended.

Err, if i'm not mistaken, even some sealant sold here is actually hazardous to human health through skin. It is some sort of plastic/vinly content..i am not a chemist but i know they are. blush.gif


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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 11 2010, 01:05 PM)
Yeah..i am fine. Now shopping for new type of sealant perhaps OPTICOAT that you recommended.

Err, if i'm not mistaken, even some sealant sold here is actually hazardous to human health through skin. It is some sort of plastic/vinly content..i am not a chemist but i know they are. blush.gif
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Hi bro


thanks for your kind words...opti coat is only for certified pro services only - as what ever you coat beneath that is not finish well ...only can remove by wet sanding or severe compounding


Any chemical has side effect on our skin, if it is not wash down immediately.....as they are not meant for dermal (human skin)

Basically there are 2 level of product here.....consumer & industrial (professional) range

Give u an example....our house vaccum is only meant for our small build up if it is use constantly for ball room cleanning..it will wear out in no time....

same goes here....megs has 2 range...whatever u can but it over the counter is consumer...good but not the best (cos the professional products cuts better, finish faster - as aggressive) sad to know before you know you have spent thousand of$$$$$$ to discover.....which most of my hard core detailing enthusiast...

so wevcant use what sold OTC to finish prefect (and that comes with more responsibility)...more aggressive but perfect product

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post Oct 12 2010, 09:06 PM

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@KC

I've view most of your blog, but most probally is how to detail those cars, do you have any guide for beginner like me?

I repainted my car for 3 months ago, i never send my car to any road side car wash, usually i wash it myself.

Currently im using Kit Car shampoo (bought in carefore), wash it and just dry with microfiber cloth.

So, I have few questions on my mind right now.

1) recommended car shampoo, where to buy w/ estimated price
2) recommended microfiber cloth, where to buy w/ estimated price
3) recommended car wax, where to buy w/ estimated price

You said ONR shampoo, where to get it btw?

fyi, i park my car everyday under hot sun, so should i wash/week and wax/month?

Thank you KC!

usually this is my steps, correct me if wrong!!

step 1: switch on the water pipe, and rinse the whole car (car in cold conditions)
step 2: use an old cloth and wash the whole car (kit car shampoo) (with 1 direction only, not circular direction)
step 3, rinse it with water again
step 4, use an old cloth(another old cloth) and watch if there is any dirt not yet cleaned (usually see under a garden light) LOL, then wipe it with another old cloth.
step 5, rinse it with water again
step 6, wipe it with microfiber cloth (i have one only) until it dry.

PS: i cleaned all my windows with that KIT CAR SHAMPOO too (same method as car body)

is that correct? please guide a begineer like me! cause ive seen too much on your blog and now damn confused, etc clay, sealent, bla bla bla....

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QUOTE(dctrue @ Oct 12 2010, 10:06 PM)
@KC

I've view most of your blog, but most probally is how to detail those cars, do you have any guide for beginner like me?

I repainted my car for 3 months ago, i never send my car to any road side car wash, usually i wash it myself.

Currently im using Kit Car shampoo (bought in carefore), wash it and just dry with microfiber cloth.

So, I have few questions on my mind right now.

1) recommended car shampoo, where to buy w/ estimated price
2) recommended microfiber cloth, where to buy w/ estimated price
3) recommended car wax, where to buy w/ estimated price

You said ONR shampoo, where to get it btw?

fyi, i park my car everyday under hot sun, so should i wash/week and wax/month?

Thank you KC!

usually this is my steps, correct me if wrong!!

step 1: switch on the water pipe, and rinse the whole car (car in cold conditions)
step 2: use an old cloth and wash the whole car (kit car shampoo)  (with 1 direction only, not circular direction)
step 3, rinse it with water again
step 4, use an old cloth(another old cloth) and watch if there is any dirt not yet cleaned (usually see under a garden light) LOL, then wipe it with another old cloth.
step 5, rinse it with water again
step 6, wipe it with microfiber cloth (i have one only) until it dry.

PS: i cleaned all my windows with that KIT CAR SHAMPOO too (same method as car body)

is that correct? please guide a begineer like me! cause ive seen too much on your blog and now damn confused, etc clay, sealent, bla bla bla....
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congrats for giving your car a new coat of paint...

a weekly wash & a monthly wash....


Do you know the pH level of your car shampoo? which is important....good shampoo has a more pH balance...overtime it will not etch or oxidized yr paint

but your challenge is TIME....can u wash & rinse with your car in 20 minutes. & wax in another 5-10 minutes?
ONR & OCW can....

this will help u to a lesser yr burden & constrain & you would find more joy detailing yr car....


WARNING!!!! do not use a worn out cloth in any washing & drying ..... try to wipe a CD & see it scratched !!

pls note your clear coat is as thick as a cigarette plastic wrapper...

imagine if you use yr shirts to wipe yr glasses in no time it will be scratched

lastly,,,, i recommend you change yr micro fibers... exterior body & wash - change every 3-4 months
after which change another sets of 3 - then move the 1st 3 to do lower skirting cleaning, rims, door jams...bonnet, ....after 6 months use it for rims & car engine area.

imagine if u buy CK tunic...chances you will wear until the last thread left...but if you clubman's ...you can change every 6 - 12 months...hygienically sound

remember our hand is the #1 enemy of the car paint
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post Oct 13 2010, 08:13 PM

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@KC, ok then i will buy microfiber, but which microfiber brand do you recommend? I went to ACE HARDWARE today and i found there is too much product on car detailing lol.

and also car wax product, meguiar? and also can u pm me ur brand price list(optimum car care)?

for my case(begineer level), which brand should i go for?
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:15 PM

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KC, you've left out one of the most important aspect. The tyre shine!!! tongue.gif No matter how clean or shiny a car looks but with dirty tires, it practically spoils everything. hehehe..
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post Oct 23 2010, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:07 PM)
I wonder what is the diff btween Kit wax or Kit metallic coat.. ?   icon_question.gif
I am newbie in car detailing
i juz bought Kit wax and diy myself...
erm... feel satisfied lor  blush.gif
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OTC Metallic Wax including Kit will put less cleaning agent so more suited for new car.
Normal OTC Wax will usually have more polish agent to remove oxidation more for older cars.
Regardless named OTC Wax/Polish, they're more like AIO. Hope this helps.

WTS: Letting go personal car detailing products
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1562657&hl=

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post Oct 27 2010, 03:34 PM

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my friend brought up this interestingly
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Btw, today was travelling along Sg Besi road when I saw this nice dark blue E92 325i coupe, but when I was alongside it, I actually cringed cos the WHOLE car was full of those buffing marks. Like the shop he sent to didn't bother removing all the holograms and buffing marks during the detailing. OMG.

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Actually it's not that the shop did not bother removing the holograms and buffing marks, they most probably caused the holograms and buffing marks. Hack job....



Oh yea. That's the term. Hack job. Imagine handing over a sub-500K car to a 'reputable' detailer and end up having a car that's been badly done. Owner must've been super blind to not even notice how bad the holograms were under direct sunlight. :eek:


are u referring to these

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E60 was hacked by Auto Bavaria pre delivery



another...by a body shop....3 yr old E60 just repainted last yr & was hacked after which supposedly new
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and the champion of champions

happen to walk past & cant resist....OM.............
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Even porsche is not spare
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look at my friend ride
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a close to a mil ride hacked S550

Question
are these owners blind???????...certainly not.....but they have not been told of the TRUTH
only the truth will set you free..... Since you have....what are you doing with the truth.....we have been accused of being a truth buster...we bust all the Myths

tonight as you drive around & happen to stop behind any black car...esp new, CBU or REcond ride....let yr head lamp shine on to their paint & ...MAMAMIA....... hologram decorate all over it

many owners cares for their ride so much so, they sent to be detail but instead it was HACKED

many has forgotten http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2010/06/p...e-handling.html
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post Nov 2 2010, 12:10 AM

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ONR sounds interesting. Is it sold locally? Will try to look out for it. Currently I just hand wash my car on weekly basis. Might want to explore claying + waxing.

Also thanks a lot everyone for sharing. Improve my knowledge in this area.

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QUOTE(MangO @ Nov 2 2010, 01:10 AM)
ONR sounds interesting
Currently I just hand wash my car on weekly basis. Might want to explore claying + waxing.

Also thanks a lot everyone for sharing. Improve my knowledge in this area.
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A brand new Toyota Camry with a brand new defects

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hologram
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

wanna to hear another brand new story from another brand new car
just a couple of nights ago.. my friend brought a Nissan Shyphly
less than 6 hours later he drove over to show me at 11pm
& all i got was this
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huh???? brand new????
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hologram from the side
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would you pay 120k for this ...the ride yes


back bonnet
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close up
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rear spoiler
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when we wipe with microfibres, almost impossible to glides & the MF stuck on the paint as as though like on the Velcro surface...as it is late ...i could only show him how to do clay
but he went home couldn't sleep & wide awake till dawn & started detailing ...with some products i gave him...ONR, clay, optiseal & Ocwax

pick up from clay

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surface contaminants was pick up from a brand new car

another date is set to spent time with him to train him to detail his ride

do you remember - i share this before with you, that many Honda show room do not deliver black under a noon day sun...this is the reason
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back to the origin thread
from a brand new delivered car

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more hologram from the D area

how then to prepare & protect your new investment.....


protect from depreciating - faster (as compare to a neglected ride)

protect against the harsh environment, weather abuse - uv threats to come...


preparing for days to come....a love that last a drive time

begins with
Surface preparations ...Surface preparations ......Surface preparations ......Surface preparations ......Surface preparations ....Surface preparations ....Surface preparations is 90 % & ....wax / sealant is just the 10 % of the whole car detailing

surface test...after a good wash.....use a damp microfibres (not dry & certainly not with sandwich bags- less is more ) - glides slowly & gently ....feel all the noops...& bumps AKA surface above contaminations....

CLAY is important for any surface preparations

lubricate the surface properly prior clay....works best in a cool surface...... ...ensure yr clay is check each time prior claying.......flip over prior moving to the next 2 x 2 feet area
i like to clay top down....rather the other way


any new ride....is goes thru a line of delivery ....right from factory to central warehouse..transport in open area, park in open garage.....delivered to district ware house...sent again by truck to the individual show room - maybe it was park outside prior wash & deliver to you again....


to read the complete detailing

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post Nov 3 2010, 11:38 PM

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Used to be hardcore detailer. Now no time to do all. LOL so must keep it well from start. Tis is what i do

1) send it to nearby roadside car wash. Ask for spray only. Shampoo all don't wan. Should be arounbd RM2 or 3. Unless u have those water jet spray. then can diy at home lor. I live in condo so no choice lor. Very important to spray all those big chunk of sand and dust away.
2)reach home, rinse again with normal pipe.
3) shampoo car with MG nxt shampoo or ultimate wash n wax. Use MG MF wash mitt to scrub........very very lightly. Almost not using any force
4) Very lightly dry with MF towel.
5) apply MG ultimate quick detailer with MF cloth....very lightly.

Lol, the important is don't your force to dry your car or apply any wax or quick detailer. else, you will end up with some scratches or swirl mark even if you use the best MF clothes in the world. Very hard to say mar, suddently got something landed on your car. then you wipe it along. Scratch.....tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 4 2010, 12:38 AM)
Used to be hardcore detailer. Now no time to do all. LOL so must keep it well from start. Tis is what i do

1) send it to nearby roadside car wash. Ask for spray only. Shampoo all don't wan. Should be arounbd RM2 or 3. Unless u have those water jet spray. then can diy at home lor. I live in condo so no choice lor. Very important to spray all those big chunk of sand and dust away.
2)reach home, rinse again with normal pipe.
3) shampoo car with MG nxt shampoo or ultimate wash n wax. Use MG MF wash mitt to scrub........very very lightly. Almost not using any force
4) Very lightly dry with MF towel.
5) apply MG ultimate quick detailer with MF cloth....very lightly.

Lol, the important is don't your force to dry your car or apply any wax or quick detailer. else, you will end up with some scratches or swirl mark even if you use the best MF clothes in the world. Very hard to say mar, suddently got something landed on your car. then you wipe it along. Scratch.....tongue.gif
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Hi NINJIAO
great to meet another car lovers, good that u know the danger of bubble/ snow wash

i reckon u need to drive to a nearby car wash, que - wait & return & wash & dry = estimating maybe close to 2 hours i guess....

20 years ago no body would believe that there will be a mobile phone u can make video call, teflon wok...oil free cooking
but today it is proven by time & technology & advancement....apple ipod,m ipad,4G

there is a rinseless was shampoo called...ONR wash & dry in 20 minutes & proven no scratch - & wax in 10 minutes
most of all save time & water & effort

ONR no rinse wash test on a new car


Aston martin just detail
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some pics before & all i took is 50 minutes from this
ONR wash

quick ONR washed...50/50% pics

remember before

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after
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after a good bath

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i need to protect her till the owner return

after Optisealing her

tqs for viewing again

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a little patience & plenty of passion


HI ROY

this is what u sms me just now

wanna to learn rotary

detailig clinic

who would believe learning for free

detailing enthusiast week event

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QUOTE(KC's @ Nov 4 2010, 05:32 PM)
Hi NINJIAO
great to meet another car lovers, good that u know the danger of bubble/ snow wash

i reckon u need to drive to a nearby car wash, que - wait & return & wash & dry = estimating maybe close to 2 hours i guess....

20 years ago no body would believe that there will be a mobile phone u can make video call, teflon wok...oil free cooking
but today it is proven by time & technology & advancement....apple ipod,m ipad,4G

there is a rinseless was shampoo called...ONR wash & dry in 20 minutes & proven no scratch - & wax in 10 minutes
most of all save time & water & effort
shocking.gif No rinse??? shocking.gif

After check youtube for optimum no rinse video. I really shitbrix. Hahahhaa. How technology advanced. Lasttime synthetic sealant was like the god of all detailing. Zaino was leaving me with shocking.gif tat time for the smoothness and shine. Then there's those teflon and nano thingy. Now shocking.gif

Now the ONR water repellant is just out of tis world. Lol, I'm trying it after my current shampoo finish. Hmm really no need rinse?? Just wipe? what if there's sand on the surface??? hmm.gif

Still shocking.gif

Where to buy?? drool.gif
shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 4 2010, 06:53 PM)
shocking.gif No rinse???  shocking.gif

After check youtube for optimum no rinse video. I really shitbrix. Hahahhaa. How technology advanced. Lasttime synthetic sealant was like the god of all detailing. Zaino was leaving me with  shocking.gif  tat time for the smoothness and shine. Then there's those teflon and nano thingy. Now  shocking.gif

Now the ONR water repellant is just out of tis world. Lol, I'm trying it after my current shampoo finish. Hmm really no need rinse?? Just wipe? what if there's sand on the surface???  hmm.gif

Still  shocking.gif 

Where to buy??  drool.gif
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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hahahahahaha

u really hard core & hard spent on detailing stuff too ya

give u some to try lo...see it yr self lo

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QUOTE(KC's @ Nov 4 2010, 06:51 PM)
hahahahahaha

u really hard core & hard spent on detailing stuff too ya

give u some to try lo...see it yr self lo
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Bro. Where can I get my hands on some ONR? Do you sell any other products? Thanks.
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QUOTE(KC's @ Nov 4 2010, 06:51 PM)
hahahahahaha

u really hard core & hard spent on detailing stuff too ya

give u some to try lo...see it yr self lo
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LOL, I don't wan some, i need a gallon. Hahahhaha. Wonder where i can get it?. tongue.gif


The water beeding/repellent is really amazing. shocking.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 3 2010, 11:38 PM)
Used to be hardcore detailer. Now no time to do all. LOL so must keep it well from start. Tis is what i do

1) send it to nearby roadside car wash. Ask for spray only. Shampoo all don't wan. Should be arounbd RM2 or 3. Unless u have those water jet spray. then can diy at home lor. I live in condo so no choice lor. Very important to spray all those big chunk of sand and dust away.
2)reach home, rinse again with normal pipe.
3) shampoo car with MG nxt shampoo or ultimate wash n wax. Use MG MF wash mitt to scrub........very very lightly. Almost not using any force
4) Very lightly dry with MF towel.
5) apply MG ultimate quick detailer with MF cloth....very lightly.

Lol, the important is don't your force to dry your car or apply any wax or quick detailer. else, you will end up with some scratches or swirl mark even if you use the best MF clothes in the world. Very hard to say mar, suddently got something landed on your car. then you wipe it along. Scratch.....tongue.gif
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ninjioa remind of me before i meet kc.....send it to nearby roadside car wash for water jet spray then go to mine buddy house for a car wash,phewww 1hour+ or maybe 2hour for the process (sometimes jammed),have to skip mine gym just for a car wash..... vmad.gif
thanks to alien KC that contribute a lot of info,the best of all is ONR,I can wash mine car anytime(cause i stayin at condo)even mine neighbour & mine colleague oso notice mine ride is always shine...now i m interested to to learn some rotary...hopefully KC aka detailalien will come up with some thing, thumbup.gif
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hi KC may i know where to get the ONR ? thanks
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QUOTE(MangO @ Nov 5 2010, 01:48 AM)
Bro. Where can I get my hands on some ONR? Do you sell any other products? Thanks.
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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Nov 5 2010, 02:51 AM)
LOL, I don't wan some, i need a gallon. Hahahhaha. Wonder where i can get it?. tongue.gif
The water beeding/repellent is really amazing.  shocking.gif  drool.gif
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hahahahah,,,,,

QUOTE(roykok @ Nov 5 2010, 03:06 AM)
ninjioa remind of me before i meet kc.....send it to nearby roadside car wash for water jet spray then go to mine buddy house for a car wash,phewww 1hour+ or maybe 2hour for the process (sometimes jammed),have to skip mine gym just for a car wash..... vmad.gif
thanks to alien KC that contribute a lot of info,the best of all is ONR,I can wash mine car anytime(cause i stayin at condo)even mine neighbour & mine colleague oso notice mine ride is always shine...now i m interested to to learn  some rotary...hopefully KC aka detailalien will come up with some thing, thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(babylabbit @ Nov 5 2010, 10:37 PM)
hi KC may i know where to get the ONR ? thanks
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Thanks guys......lets do a quick pit stop detailing
if possible ....see we will meet up ...at a central location & do a complete make over detailing in 60 minutes

Passionately in sharing with you the simplicity of car detailing & most of all - literally anytime , anywhere ..how to protect yr assets against deterioration......simply effortless & hesitation

2 sunday ago my buddy brought a new car.....& he wanna me to show him some simple steps of basic car care without burning a hole into his pocket & Paint (hologram- by sending to so call detailer....to avoid hacked job....so I suggest you are the car greatest detailer...i share with him how to..


so we met up in Equine Jusco...

time: afternoon..
weather: sunny & hot...Not shaded....(warning...not to wash car under hot & sunny day - to avoid water spots)
Water asses : Nope

TIME: 30 minutes (given to me only)

picture just taken before wash

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imagine just 4 days not wash.....& the amount of dust accumulated...inches of debris & dirt settle on the surface


ONR half bonnet ....on the right
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after ONR wash
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Lubricity of ONR (glides thru yr paint- flawlessly) & The technology advancement in the Micro fibers - ta da (aka magnet cloth)
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water test
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ta da...the polymer glides the water away
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before
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after
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cool will give u a call when i free smile.gif

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