watching this video , i'm wondering myself is this penalty still legal in nowadays match ?



http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Gi98iEziKQ

This post has been edited by xortz: Jul 30 2008, 06:40 AM

henry and pires tried it if im not mistaken and failed miserably!

WTF ! By right no such penalties allowed!

If its not allowed, why did Henry and Pires tried it in the first place?

YES It is legal This are actual field soccer rules.

A penalty kick is awarded against a team that commits one of the ten
offences for which a direct free kick is awarded, inside its own penalty
area and while the ball is in play.

A goal may be scored directly from a penalty kick.

Additional time is allowed for a penalty kick to be taken at the end of
each half or at the end of periods of extra time.

Position of the Ball and the Players

The ball:
• must be placed on the penalty mark
The player taking the penalty kick:
• must be properly identified

The defending goalkeeper:
• must remain on his goal line, facing the kicker, between the
goalposts until the ball has been kicked

The players other than the kicker must be located:
• inside the field of play
• outside the penalty area
• behind the penalty mark
• at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the penalty mark

Procedure
• After the players have taken positions in accordance with this Law,
the referee signals for the penalty kick to be taken
• The player taking the penalty kick must kick the ball forward
• He must not play the ball again until it has touched another player
• The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward
When a penalty kick is taken during the normal course of play, or time
has been extended at half-time or full time to allow a penalty kick to
be taken or retaken, a goal is awarded if, before passing between the
goalposts and under the crossbar:
• the ball touches either or both of the goalposts and/or the crossbar
and/or the goalkeeper
The referee decides when a penalty kick has been completed.

Infringements and Sanctions
If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken and,
before the ball is in play, one of the following occurs:
the player taking the penalty kick infringes the Laws of the Game:
• the referee allows the kick to be taken
• if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken
• if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and the
match is restarted with an indirect free kick to the defending team,
from the place where the infringement occurred
the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game:
• the referee allows the kick to be taken
• if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
• if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken
a team-mate of the player taking the kick infringes the Laws of the Game:
• the referee allows the kick to be taken
• if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken
• if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and the
match is restarted with an indirect free kick to the defending
team,from the place where the infringement occurred

a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game:
• the referee allows the kick to be taken
• if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
• if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken
a player of both the defending team and the attacking team infringe
the Laws of the Game:
• the kick is retaken
If, after the penalty kick has been taken:
the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has
touched another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to
be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law
13 – Position of Free Kick)
the kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another
player:
• a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be
taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law
13 – Position of Free Kick)
the ball is touched by an outside agent as it moves forward:
• the kick is retaken
the ball rebounds into the field of play from the goalkeeper, the
crossbar or the goalposts, and is then touched by an outside agent:
• the referee stops play
• play is restarted with a dropped ball at the place where it touched
the outside agent, unless it touched the outside agent inside the
goal area, in which case the referee drops the ball on the goal area
line parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball
was located when play was stopped

This post has been edited by ponomariov: Jul 30 2008, 10:35 AM

Fix

This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Jul 30 2008, 10:53 AM

wtffffffffffffffffffffffffff....................wat kind of penalty was tat..i was expecting sumthin more direct..but this...LOL...its allowed??????????????...........then y no ppl do like this anymore???

i lol-ed at this.

because the defender can run towards the ball too.

btw, i think that tactic is making fun of opponent players. dont think most player would want to make situation that bad.

This post has been edited by akRia: Jul 30 2008, 11:24 AM

haha... i remembered that one. That was embarrassing. LOL!

After seeing how Pires/Henry cock up the penalty against Man City, i doubt any players would have the balls to do it in a big game. Either that or they must be leading like 6-7 goals in front with 10 mins left, before they decide to take that kinda penalty.

Coming from an Arsenal fan, i would say Henry and Pires were really cocky and way too confident in attempting that penalty. I remember watching that game and it was 0-0 when they took the penalty. Luckily we managed to score another goal and win the game. I think Wenger probably gave them a piece of his mind after the game.

ha3,nice tactic,i will try it in my next game

giotto,

It was one-nil to the Arsenal when they decided to poke fun with the penalty kick.

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Added on July 30, 2008, 11:54 amEdited: And they phailed miserably. Lulz.

This post has been edited by cry4freedom: Jul 30 2008, 11:54 AM

it is allowed. I think henry did tell the media he want to follow dono which holland legend who tried this type of pk before.

is this the non pro-football match??

such penalty ar..unacceptable

like it or not it's actually a legitimate way of penalty taking. it's rarely done these days because defenders are getting smarter and will rush into the box as the penalty-taker touches the ball, so if a defender reaches the ball earlier it'll be cleared with ease. in the first video the defenders are all caught off guard, which makes it look so easy.

pires and henry clearly understand the rules of the game, but it was an embarassing mistake from pires to not be able to touch the ball forward for henry, and he knows he can't take a second touch to the ball. small mistakes will see an almost sure goal gone like pires-henry's case.

personally though, i don't really enjoy watching penalties like these, it has a little 'unsportsmanship' feel to it, the way it's taken.

i think this issue was talked so much after that pires-henry penalty..although it seems weird, many pundits said that it was legitimate..fifa also had commented on this issue iinm..cant remember what are their statements

but at regardless of the rule, pires or henry should place the ball in the net..their miss was soo

dun know what pires was thinking, i think henry made a good run there

i dont see anything wrong with it. I in fact tried it once myself in a game with a friend after seeing an old clip of a player doing it (cant remember now which team. 70's clip). I think it is fair and not "cocky" as alleged by some. Think of it as a free kick, just that its inside the box. With free kicks u are allowed to try out various combos/ tricks (direct hits, short lobs, passes etc) as long as its within the rules, so why should it be more different in a pk. Defender's should know the rules too and not be too naive when it comes to PKs, just like for free kicks where most of the defenders now have an extra guy watching for all sorts of runs and even marking an opponent who is 50 feet away from goal for fear of a sudden unexpected run in.

cry4freedom,
Thanks for refreshing my memory. Haha.

One of the Dutch player that attempted that 2 man penalty was Johan Cryuff if i'm not mistaken. I remember reading that in soccernet i think. But then again, old man's memory, please correct me if i'm wrong.

you are right giotto, that was the clip i saw..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHN1mN5SCg&feature=related

haha this is how it should be done 3 touches somemore.

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Added on July 30, 2008, 2:44 pmoops its the same as the one shared by TS, sorry repeat.

This post has been edited by chcher: Jul 30 2008, 02:44 PM

apparently that NON-PRO is Johan Cryuff, an AJAX AMSTERDAM/HOLLAND LEGEND..

oh i see
the penalty kick is really weirdo , at least i have proof if i wanna try it outside ..
hehe

yup try it at ur own risk...

Most strange penalty kick ever. I think the referree deserves to be stomped on his neck.

Arsenal already leading by 1goal that game...
the reason why Henry-Pires done that b'coz the first goal is also a penalty converted by Pires...
that why they tried fancy penalty, but its legal

Haiyoh.. what is the debate about.. it is not a debate.. FIFA Rulez already stated very clear.

• The player taking the penalty kick must kick the ball forward

The ball must roll towards the goal.

• He must not play the ball again until it has touched another player

A goal may be scored directly from a penalty kick.

So after kicking the ball forward... game returns normal.


THIS APPLIES IN FUTSAL OR INDOOR SOCCER OR BEACH SOCCER.

For more information go read the LAWS OF THE GAME FROM FIFA.

This post has been edited by ponomariov: Jul 30 2008, 05:16 PM

1 related question - wat if ball hits tian and rebounds back to same striker? i have seen such goals given. though technically i think its a foul as no second player touched the ball. The main purpose of the rule is in fact to prevent players from dribbling into the net. Hmmm

waaa wtf wrong with the refereee??? I dunt understand y he asked for the re-take sooo many times!

To answer this question.
This is not legal.

if i was the penalty taker, i dont mind to get a red card just to kick his ...
what a waste of time
what was the problem actually?

haha..
i think the ref was the white shirt team supporter..
thats why ask re-take many times..
and the henry-pires..
LOL.. PHAILED..

LOL..i wonder how much injury time was given in that match..

but i really think that ref is kinda bored with his life and decided to make an action which can make him back page cover boy..or is he even dreaming of being at the front page??i think so, considering at how many penalties was retaken

Just wanna point out that:

Henry-Pires' failed penalty kick was supposed to be Arsene Wenger's birthday gift

Yeah, I agree that it was embarrassing

most probably Arsene will be more delight if Pires juz smack the ball in.

Had City equalized after that fiasco, I wouldn't expect Wenger to be too happy about it.

anyone know why it many penalties was retaken

no idea la dude :-s baffled as well

some of the penalty,i can see the defender enter the box @ semi D before the kicker take the kick,the other i dont know why
the 1st one i can see the red team enter the semi D before kicker kick the ball

but how about the miss penalty + header scored?? why been denied?

The 2nd penalty was not allowed because the goalkeeper stepped out of his line before the kicker kicked the ball and the 3rd was because the player entered the semi circle b4 the ball was kicked. tats y he got booked. The others not sure

This post has been edited by dumbbell: Jul 31 2008, 06:37 PM

haha..what kick is that??

Regarding the penalties

1. Red scores- Infringement Player in the Penalty Arc (less than 10 yards) by own player. Therefore referee allows a retaken penalty.
2. Red scores- Infringement Player in the Penalty Arc (less than 10 yards) by own player. Therefore referee allows a retaken penalty.
3. Red scores- Infringement Player in the Penalty Arc (less than 10 yards) by own player. Therefore referee allows a retaken penalty. Caution for player with repeated offence.
4. White team denied penalty -Infringement by Goal Keeper- Feet off the line before kick taken.
5. Red team scores through a rebounded ball. I didn't see anything wrong with it. must be a hand ball. Spotted by the linesman.
6. It is a goal.

This post has been edited by ponomariov: Aug 1 2008, 11:35 AM

haha awesome referee
really strict on specific rules

if this is the reason,ref should allow the goal,u should know this rules
If GK stepped out before kicker kick the ball and it hit the net,ref should allowed the goal by give advantage to the kick taker
If GK stepped out before kicker kick the ball and it didnt hit the net,ref should allowed the retaken bcos GK get advantage by stepped before the kick

what is wrong with that referee?

5. How can it be because of handball? The penalty was retaken. So funny.

not professional la..
i hate this trick..

too much for a penalty..

but i remember they stil win the game, rite?

The holland legend was Johan Cruyff!
Yes, it is a legitimate penalty, there is nothing unprofessional about it WHATSOEVER.
As long as the player plays the ball and it is struck by a second player it is legal.