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post Sep 23 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 22 2011, 05:22 PM)
Nice and detail review bro. Mind sharing how much is the HP microserver?
Did the DVD writer come package with it or can we opt not to get that?
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If I remember correctly, I bought it for around RM900. Standard package comes with dvd writer. Cannot opt not to get it cause it's already in the package.
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QUOTE(buzzle25 @ Sep 23 2011, 05:36 PM)
Hi Guys,
Need advise on this.
This is for my home use.
1. Plan to use it for storage of files for playback via media player to LCD TV. Streaming HD files.
2. Connection (NAS to Media player) will be via Cat 6 LAN cable. Upstairs & downstairs.
3. Use this as file storage
4. Prefer to have 4 X 2TB HD.
5. Able to be connected via desktop and notebook via wireless. Using Win7.
6. Transferring of files from desktop to NAS.

Which type of NAS to get? Value for money.  icon_question.gif

Thanks
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Read the previous post whistling.gif
THere is generally two types of NAS now, those from Synology, QNAP, et. al. with their (in my opinion vastly overpriced) out of box ready NAS. They are good if you dont want to tinker around too much with setting up a server but be prepared to pay.

Another type which I think is better is to get a HP Proliant Microserver. You will need to do everything from scratch (hardware and software installation) but it is much more flexible and cheaper.
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post Sep 24 2011, 09:53 AM

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since HP alredy announced the new replacement model for the MicroServer; might as well wait till the next version comes in Malaysia
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post Sep 24 2011, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 23 2011, 05:49 PM)
If I remember correctly, I bought it for around RM900. Standard package comes with dvd writer. Cannot opt not to get it cause it's already in the package.
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Wait a bit... updated version should be hitting out shores soon! N40L, slightly faster processor and more memory installed upfront
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post Sep 24 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Sep 24 2011, 09:54 AM)
Wait a bit... updated version should be hitting out shores soon! N40L, slightly faster processor and more memory installed upfront
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price wise in the same range ?
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 24 2011, 11:42 AM)
price wise in the same range ?
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Price wise there is nothing that can come close to what it has to offer in Malaysia.
HP Proliant Microserver @RM900 is the bestest value for money, in my opinion.

Looking forward to its new variation, the N40L to be launch in Malaysia.
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post Sep 24 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 24 2011, 01:29 PM)
Price wise there is nothing that can come close to what it has to offer in Malaysia.
HP Proliant Microserver @RM900 is the bestest value for money, in my opinion.

Looking forward to its new variation, the N40L to be launch in Malaysia.
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Is the HP Proliant Microserver an equivalent of the QNAP or Synology?
Does the Microserver act like the NAS?
How about the user interface? Are they similar to the Synology?


QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 23 2011, 06:49 PM)
If I remember correctly, I bought it for around RM900. Standard package comes with dvd writer. Cannot opt not to get it cause it's already in the package.
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I believe the OS software is not included? Which have to be purchase separately for the system to function?
What's you view on this and have you compared this to the other off-the-shelf NAS system?

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post Sep 24 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 24 2011, 01:05 PM)
Is the HP Proliant Microserver an equivalent of the QNAP or Synology?
Does the Microserver act like the NAS?
How about the user interface? Are they similar to the Synology?
I believe the OS software is not included? Which have to be purchase separately for the system to function?
What's you view on this and have you compared this to the other off-the-shelf NAS system?
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Proliant is not equal to a QNAP or Synology. Proliant is a OS independent computer while QNAP and Syno are OS dependent which means you cannot change the software. THere are tons of free server/NAS software out there (Ubuntu, FreeNAS, FreeBSD, etc) and paid ones (Windows Home Server, red hat, etc).

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Correct me if I am wrong.

QNAP or Synology:
Pro - Low power consumption. Easy to use out from the box.
Con - Slightly more expensive.

Proliant:
Pro - Not OS dependent and flexible to use those free software.
Con - High power consumption. Need some computer knowledge to setup & maintenance.

What about the D-Link or Buffalo Linkstation? They are much cheaper....
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Build yourself a WHS, Flexraid, unRaid, freeNAS.
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for home use just get those off the shelf NAS solution; get Microserver if you really need to configure your NAS to your own liking (stay away if you are total IT newbie)... you'll regret buying it


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If you look at the specs of the proliant, it should be comparable to a out-of-box system. If I remember correctly at 100% utilisation for 4 disks is like 50W or so. THis is around the power consumption of a out-of-box system. Definately need more knowledge to setup for the Proliant
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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Sep 25 2011, 08:58 PM)
Build yourself a WHS, Flexraid, unRaid, freeNAS.
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Sorry, don't mind me asking... what's WHS?


QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Sep 25 2011, 09:15 PM)
for home use just get those off the shelf NAS solution; get Microserver if you really need to configure your NAS to your own liking (stay away if you are total IT newbie)... you'll regret buying it
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If you look at the specs of the proliant, it should be comparable to a out-of-box system. If I remember correctly at 100% utilisation for 4 disks is like 50W or so. THis is around the power consumption of a out-of-box system. Definately need more knowledge to setup for the Proliant
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 26 2011, 08:39 AM)
Sorry, don't mind me asking... what's WHS?
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a 5 second google search should direct u to Window Home Server wink.gif
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 25 2011, 07:55 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong.

QNAP or Synology:
Pro - Low power consumption. Easy to use out from the box.
Con - Slightly more expensive.

Proliant:
Pro - Not OS dependent and flexible to use those free software.
Con - High power consumption. Need some computer knowledge to setup & maintenance.

What about the D-Link or Buffalo Linkstation? They are much cheaper....
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my hp microserver tops out at 46w at 100% utilization of cpu and bandwidth. What's the consumption of Qnap or synology?
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 26 2011, 05:11 PM)
my hp microserver tops out at 46w at 100% utilization of cpu and bandwidth. What's the consumption of Qnap or synology?
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comparative.. synology and qnap 4 bays model

synology
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qnap(look at the TS-4xx) those are the 4 bay model
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 26 2011, 06:31 PM)
comparative.. synology and qnap 4 bays model

synology
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qnap(look at the TS-4xx) those are the 4 bay model
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But they tested using same Hard Disc ?
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 26 2011, 06:31 PM)
comparative.. synology and qnap 4 bays model

synology
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qnap(look at the TS-4xx) those are the 4 bay model
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looks like QNAP is more power efficient than Synology
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 26 2011, 05:31 PM)
comparative.. synology and qnap 4 bays model

synology
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qnap(look at the TS-4xx) those are the 4 bay model
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Is the values quoted just for the system without hard disks? Because assuming you use a WD Green HDD at full utilization is already 6W per disk. But for the QNAP TS-110 and TS-112 it says 7W full operation leaving 1W for the system? Built in fan assume 40mm 5v fan is another 0.7W there... you know where I am getting whistling.gif

Basic power consumption ratings:
3.5" HDD - 6W each for "green" HDDs, 8W for performance HDD
2.5" HDD - 2.5W each
40mm 5V fan - 0.7W each
120mm 12V fan - 3W each
SoC - ~5W
Atom like CPU - ~13W
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Sep 27 2011, 10:57 AM)
Is the values quoted just for the system without hard disks? Because assuming you use a WD Green HDD at full utilization is already 6W per disk. But for the QNAP TS-110 and TS-112 it says 7W full operation leaving 1W for the system? Built in fan assume 40mm 5v fan is another 0.7W there... you know where I am getting  whistling.gif

Basic power consumption ratings:
3.5" HDD - 6W each for "green" HDDs, 8W for performance HDD
2.5" HDD - 2.5W each
40mm 5V fan - 0.7W each
120mm 12V fan - 3W each
SoC - ~5W
Atom like CPU - ~13W
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well those two models are based on

Marvell 800 MHz Marvell 1.2 GHz

its possible right.. does the 1 bay model comes with fan ??

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