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Samanoske Akechi
post Jul 27 2008, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 12:45 PM)
It's funny how people already draw conclusion that the "plastic" back will scratch easily compared to previous gen iPhone. Those who have met me yesterday, and seen and touch and molested it, I would imagine they would say otherwise.

It is not plastic, it is polycarbonate.

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-3g0...aluminum-iphone
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As you probably remember, BlendTech recently published their latest installment of "Will it Blend?", which featured one of their blenders blending an iPhone 3G. However, someone with a keen eye has pointed out that the iPhone 3G actually blended up a lot less than the original iPhone. The 3G still had the back plate partially intact, while the old iPhone's aluminum plate was reduced to complete dust. This could just be luck, it does seem awfully unusual.
As it turns out, Apple has never really stated that the plastic back of the device actually is "plastic". In fact, they filed a very interesting patent, #20060268528 for an unusually strong substance described as a ceramic-like hybrid of zirconia and Yttrium hybrid with an added silicon coating applied “on the exterior surface to prevent cracking and protect the ceramic shell from undesirable forces as for example when the ceramic shell is dropped.”


So stop assuming about its frailty JUST BY ITS LOOKS, and get to a freaking hands-on first before you come to a conclusion. I know "sour-graping" and "purchase self-preservation" comes into view when newer versions of the model you have are introduced, but give credit where it is due. You know what they say, "assumptions are the mother of all fcuk-ups.

Peace, out.
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String, don't mean to disregard or contradict your statement or anything, just wanted to share some of my findings on the internet regarding the comparison of the actual scratch resistance between the 1st Gen iPhone's brushed aluminium backing and the iPhone 3G's polycarbonate backing. Nothing significant, so until the actual chemical composition of the iPhone 3G's backing is tested and revealed, I'm not drawing any definite conclusions just yet. smile.gif These were stress tests conducted by PC World testing the endurance and scratch resistance of both the iPhone and iPhone 3G.

iPhone 1st Gen Stress Test by PCWorldVideos :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FUR70xhmqv4

iPhone 3G Stress Tests by PCWorldVideos :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo

This post has been edited by Samanoske Akechi: Jul 27 2008, 06:32 PM
Samanoske Akechi
post Jul 27 2008, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 07:07 PM)
I've watched those stress test videos , which IIANM, further supports my argument: The only thing that is majorly scratchable on the back of the iPhone 3G is the Apple Logo, which is the same case with the old model.

The way I see those test being done, are for those who go to the extreme. If you are a person that is extremely anal, or conscious about not wanting to get any kinds of scratches on your electronics, you would go to great lengths to protect it. Cases, hard or silicon, screen protectors, you name it. That stress test is done to replicate the average Joe Consumer, which happens to lie within the "dumb" section of the consumer scale. These groups of consumer only care what their iPhones can do, and could not care less about if it is scratches or not. Only us nerds and geeks baby it to the stage where it is enveloped in soft pouches, lathered on screen protectors or encased inside steel or polycarbonate prison of a shell/cases.

My beef with the comments I read in here is not whether the 3G iPhone is unscratchable or indestructible, it is NOT. My annoyance is with those folks who claims the fragility of the new 3G iPhone BY ITS LOOKS only, and not through a practical hands-on. That is even worse than believing anecdotal evidence.

Dont get me wrong, Samanoske, I welcome discourses and points like these from you, it encourages discourse and promotes back-and-forth discussions. THIS is what it should be, we call this a FORUM after all.
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Thanks for the note, mate. It greatly comforts me to know that you didn't see that as a deliberate argument. smile.gif One point taken, under normal circumstances in the hands of a regular consumer, I guess it is indeed extremely unlikely that the phone would go through THAT amount of savage abuse without any form of protection. And of course, I wouldn't comment on the scratch resistance of both backings until some form of tests have been conducted to expose the true material used in the backing's construction. To me though, I merely comfort myself with the fact that the aluminium backing is less prone to fingerprints and smudges. Those really bug me when it comes to maintenance and cleaning on a daily basis. A neat freak, I believe some call it. cool.gif
Samanoske Akechi
post Jul 27 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 08:01 PM)
The white iPhone will not show fingerprints, trust me. Unless you have been swimming around in a muddy trough, or just got back from  EPF counter with your thumbs lathered with print inks, it will not show. The gloss coat prevents this. The black one, however, does not. Ever notice that when you touch something, your finger oils sticks on it. It may be invisible at that time, but watch the surface when it dries and collects flecks of dust and debris. That's why smudges are more visible on a black surface. It may be on that white gloss coat, but unless you peer at it closely, it is hardly visible.

Again, this is an ANECDOTAL evidence from me, you do not have to even trust what I say. I urge those who are inclined to make comments like the "easy to see finger print", "easy to become yellow on the white", or "plastic iPhones are more easier to break/crack", to have a hands-on first before coming up with an assumption. It is only fair to do so.
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Oh yeah, I didn't think of the white one. Has Apple commented on the unconfirmed rumours of the white coat suffering from the aging yellowish tone after prolonged usage? The iBooks did, the Apple keyboards did (as I have personally experienced and am not at all happy about cry.gif ), but as we have speculated, the iPhone 3G shouldn't be utilizing the same plastic material, right? Not very chemistry-inclined here, so would anyone happen to know whether polycarbonate will suffer the same discolouration over time? Personally I hope not, it's be bad for the white iPhone 3G's to be resold as yellow hand-me-downs.
Samanoske Akechi
post Jul 27 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 08:14 PM)
The polycarbonate gloss coating is like lamination on a piece of paper. You wipe off grime of it, while the white ceramic surface maintains its color.
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Oh, okay. But like lamination on a piece of paper, the laminated plastic layer also turns yellowish over a period of time, despite it being kept in a secluded part of the house, untouched by human hands or exposed to sunlight. That's why I'm curious to know specifically whether the material used by Apple in the i3G will suffer from the same problem, because as history has shown, Apple has yet to show any regard for this issue in the form of repeated design flaws in their white plastic products.
Samanoske Akechi
post Jul 28 2008, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 11:42 PM)
"When you feel that you've stepped to far into the seriousness of the forum, it is time to step back. Life's too much of a good thing to let your blood pressure rise up because of a few sentences or lines of words from the people you hardly know"
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QUOTE(baretta @ Jul 28 2008, 12:47 AM)
Berundur bukan bererti kalah tapi mengatur langkah..... kata2 org dulu.
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Are we having philosophy lessons here? laugh.gif laugh.gif Why's everyone going into the "deep language" mode?

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