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IPhone or IPhone 3G, If you are given chances
IPhone or IPhone 3G, If you are given chances
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Jul 27 2008, 09:19 AM, updated 18y ago
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If you are given chances, would you buy IPhone or invest more on 3G model? please give reasons
now in a consideration to purchase one |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:32 AM
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Long live 3g~~~
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Jul 27 2008, 11:15 AM
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iphone 3G definitely...
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Jul 27 2008, 11:17 AM
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iPhone 3G iPhone 3G iPhone 3G iPhone 3G ...
why? Cuz its the latest, coolest gadget haha~ |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:22 AM
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I already have iPhone EDGE,sure I want a brand new iphone 3G..lol
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Jul 27 2008, 11:23 AM
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yeahh, me also choose the 3g
no need work hard to pwn etc but iphone 3g external looks cheap coz of hard plastic cover.. haih.. |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:26 AM
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Jul 27 2008, 12:36 PM
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LoL..i think the new plastic cover is trendy and nice..
Scared scratch? Go get the invisible shield for iphone la.. Lifetime warranty man...confirm cannot scratch.. |
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Jul 27 2008, 12:45 PM
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It's funny how people already draw conclusion that the "plastic" back will scratch easily compared to previous gen iPhone. Those who have met me yesterday, and seen and touch and molested it, I would imagine they would say otherwise.
It is not plastic, it is polycarbonate. http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-3g0...aluminum-iphone QUOTE As you probably remember, BlendTech recently published their latest installment of "Will it Blend?", which featured one of their blenders blending an iPhone 3G. However, someone with a keen eye has pointed out that the iPhone 3G actually blended up a lot less than the original iPhone. The 3G still had the back plate partially intact, while the old iPhone's aluminum plate was reduced to complete dust. This could just be luck, it does seem awfully unusual. As it turns out, Apple has never really stated that the plastic back of the device actually is "plastic". In fact, they filed a very interesting patent, #20060268528 for an unusually strong substance described as a ceramic-like hybrid of zirconia and Yttrium hybrid with an added silicon coating applied “on the exterior surface to prevent cracking and protect the ceramic shell from undesirable forces as for example when the ceramic shell is dropped.” So stop assuming about its frailty JUST BY ITS LOOKS, and get to a freaking hands-on first before you come to a conclusion. I know "sour-graping" and "purchase self-preservation" comes into view when newer versions of the model you have are introduced, but give credit where it is due. You know what they say, "assumptions are the mother of all fcuk-ups. Peace, out. |
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Jul 27 2008, 01:33 PM
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If me, I will go for iPhone 3G, more storage, more latest, fixed 1st gen iPhone problem
PS: cos i got iPhone 2G liaw... |
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Jul 27 2008, 02:07 PM
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iPhone 3g of coz... But where is the option to own both?
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Jul 27 2008, 02:07 PM
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enlighten me the "more storage" area
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Jul 27 2008, 02:33 PM
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Siawgu says "more storage" because he is currently using the 4GB 1st gen iPhone. Now, even the entry level model is 8GB.
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Jul 27 2008, 02:35 PM
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Wow,4GB is really really 1st gen iphone...
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Jul 27 2008, 03:06 PM
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yeah, go go iPhone 3G.
This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Jul 27 2008, 03:08 PM |
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Jul 27 2008, 03:29 PM
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Jul 27 2008, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 12:45 PM) It's funny how people already draw conclusion that the "plastic" back will scratch easily compared to previous gen iPhone. Those who have met me yesterday, and seen and touch and molested it, I would imagine they would say otherwise. String, don't mean to disregard or contradict your statement or anything, just wanted to share some of my findings on the internet regarding the comparison of the actual scratch resistance between the 1st Gen iPhone's brushed aluminium backing and the iPhone 3G's polycarbonate backing. Nothing significant, so until the actual chemical composition of the iPhone 3G's backing is tested and revealed, I'm not drawing any definite conclusions just yet. It is not plastic, it is polycarbonate. http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-3g0...aluminum-iphone QUOTE As you probably remember, BlendTech recently published their latest installment of "Will it Blend?", which featured one of their blenders blending an iPhone 3G. However, someone with a keen eye has pointed out that the iPhone 3G actually blended up a lot less than the original iPhone. The 3G still had the back plate partially intact, while the old iPhone's aluminum plate was reduced to complete dust. This could just be luck, it does seem awfully unusual. As it turns out, Apple has never really stated that the plastic back of the device actually is "plastic". In fact, they filed a very interesting patent, #20060268528 for an unusually strong substance described as a ceramic-like hybrid of zirconia and Yttrium hybrid with an added silicon coating applied “on the exterior surface to prevent cracking and protect the ceramic shell from undesirable forces as for example when the ceramic shell is dropped.” So stop assuming about its frailty JUST BY ITS LOOKS, and get to a freaking hands-on first before you come to a conclusion. I know "sour-graping" and "purchase self-preservation" comes into view when newer versions of the model you have are introduced, but give credit where it is due. You know what they say, "assumptions are the mother of all fcuk-ups. Peace, out. iPhone 1st Gen Stress Test by PCWorldVideos : http://youtube.com/watch?v=FUR70xhmqv4 iPhone 3G Stress Tests by PCWorldVideos : http://youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo This post has been edited by Samanoske Akechi: Jul 27 2008, 06:32 PM |
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Jul 27 2008, 07:07 PM
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I've watched those stress test videos , which IIANM, further supports my argument: The only thing that is majorly scratchable on the back of the iPhone 3G is the Apple Logo, which is the same case with the old model.
The way I see those test being done, are for those who go to the extreme. If you are a person that is extremely anal, or conscious about not wanting to get any kinds of scratches on your electronics, you would go to great lengths to protect it. Cases, hard or silicon, screen protectors, you name it. That stress test is done to replicate the average Joe Consumer, which happens to lie within the "dumb" section of the consumer scale. These groups of consumer only care what their iPhones can do, and could not care less about if it is scratches or not. Only us nerds and geeks baby it to the stage where it is enveloped in soft pouches, lathered on screen protectors or encased inside steel or polycarbonate prison of a shell/cases. My beef with the comments I read in here is not whether the 3G iPhone is unscratchable or indestructible, it is NOT. My annoyance is with those folks who claims the fragility of the new 3G iPhone BY ITS LOOKS only, and not through a practical hands-on. That is even worse than believing anecdotal evidence. Dont get me wrong, Samanoske, I welcome discourses and points like these from you, it encourages discourse and promotes back-and-forth discussions. THIS is what it should be, we call this a FORUM after all. |
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Jul 27 2008, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 07:07 PM) I've watched those stress test videos , which IIANM, further supports my argument: The only thing that is majorly scratchable on the back of the iPhone 3G is the Apple Logo, which is the same case with the old model. Thanks for the note, mate. It greatly comforts me to know that you didn't see that as a deliberate argument. The way I see those test being done, are for those who go to the extreme. If you are a person that is extremely anal, or conscious about not wanting to get any kinds of scratches on your electronics, you would go to great lengths to protect it. Cases, hard or silicon, screen protectors, you name it. That stress test is done to replicate the average Joe Consumer, which happens to lie within the "dumb" section of the consumer scale. These groups of consumer only care what their iPhones can do, and could not care less about if it is scratches or not. Only us nerds and geeks baby it to the stage where it is enveloped in soft pouches, lathered on screen protectors or encased inside steel or polycarbonate prison of a shell/cases. My beef with the comments I read in here is not whether the 3G iPhone is unscratchable or indestructible, it is NOT. My annoyance is with those folks who claims the fragility of the new 3G iPhone BY ITS LOOKS only, and not through a practical hands-on. That is even worse than believing anecdotal evidence. Dont get me wrong, Samanoske, I welcome discourses and points like these from you, it encourages discourse and promotes back-and-forth discussions. THIS is what it should be, we call this a FORUM after all. |
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Jul 27 2008, 08:01 PM
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The white iPhone will not show fingerprints, trust me. Unless you have been swimming around in a muddy trough, or just got back from EPF counter with your thumbs lathered with print inks, it will not show. The gloss coat prevents this. The black one, however, does not. Ever notice that when you touch something, your finger oils sticks on it. It may be invisible at that time, but watch the surface when it dries and collects flecks of dust and debris. That's why smudges are more visible on a black surface. It may be on that white gloss coat, but unless you peer at it closely, it is hardly visible.
Again, this is an ANECDOTAL evidence from me, you do not have to even trust what I say. I urge those who are inclined to make comments like the "easy to see finger print", "easy to become yellow on the white", or "plastic iPhones are more easier to break/crack", to have a hands-on first before coming up with an assumption. It is only fair to do so. |
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Jul 27 2008, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 08:01 PM) The white iPhone will not show fingerprints, trust me. Unless you have been swimming around in a muddy trough, or just got back from EPF counter with your thumbs lathered with print inks, it will not show. The gloss coat prevents this. The black one, however, does not. Ever notice that when you touch something, your finger oils sticks on it. It may be invisible at that time, but watch the surface when it dries and collects flecks of dust and debris. That's why smudges are more visible on a black surface. It may be on that white gloss coat, but unless you peer at it closely, it is hardly visible. Oh yeah, I didn't think of the white one. Has Apple commented on the unconfirmed rumours of the white coat suffering from the aging yellowish tone after prolonged usage? The iBooks did, the Apple keyboards did (as I have personally experienced and am not at all happy about Again, this is an ANECDOTAL evidence from me, you do not have to even trust what I say. I urge those who are inclined to make comments like the "easy to see finger print", "easy to become yellow on the white", or "plastic iPhones are more easier to break/crack", to have a hands-on first before coming up with an assumption. It is only fair to do so. |
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Jul 27 2008, 08:14 PM
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The polycarbonate gloss coating is like lamination on a piece of paper. You wipe off grime of it, while the white ceramic surface maintains its color.
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Jul 27 2008, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 08:14 PM) The polycarbonate gloss coating is like lamination on a piece of paper. You wipe off grime of it, while the white ceramic surface maintains its color. Oh, okay. But like lamination on a piece of paper, the laminated plastic layer also turns yellowish over a period of time, despite it being kept in a secluded part of the house, untouched by human hands or exposed to sunlight. That's why I'm curious to know specifically whether the material used by Apple in the i3G will suffer from the same problem, because as history has shown, Apple has yet to show any regard for this issue in the form of repeated design flaws in their white plastic products. |
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Jul 27 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 12:45 PM) It's funny how people already draw conclusion that the "plastic" back will scratch easily compared to previous gen iPhone. Those who have met me yesterday, and seen and touch and molested it, I would imagine they would say otherwise. string, You are one sick-ass dude armed to the teeth with information... It is not plastic, it is polycarbonate. http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-3g0...aluminum-iphone So stop assuming about its frailty JUST BY ITS LOOKS, and get to a freaking hands-on first before you come to a conclusion. I know "sour-graping" and "purchase self-preservation" comes into view when newer versions of the model you have are introduced, but give credit where it is due. You know what they say, "assumptions are the mother of all fcuk-ups. Peace, out. |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:20 PM
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Take it this way. The white inside is ceramic. The ceramic is outercoated with a translucent clear layer of glass-like substance. The smudges glides off it with a wipe, because it is not porous. And because it is not porous, there are no small capillaries for miniscule dirt particles to cling to, to create smudge or yellowing effect like on the White Macbook. The outercoating is like melted silicate, like those glassblowers blowing liquid glass into shape. Does glass turn yellow over time?
Trust me on this, you're over-reading into this. Once it is available in your hands, you will think how silly it is talking about yellowing silicate/polycarbonate. It is not plastic like your White Macbook. |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:45 PM
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I vote for iphone 3G though...
@string...thanks for the explanation and information about the back cover of the iphone 3G. It was indeed one of my major concern especially there are news about the crack on the i3G back cover, and the concern about the white back cover turning yellowish after prolong usage. Saving money and raising fund hoping to buy an i3G now... |
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Jul 27 2008, 10:55 PM
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I see. Thank You for your feedback.
BTW string, i saw some site said that iPhone 3G 8GB screen and 16GB screen have different max screen resolution. Is it true? Here's the source http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/24/three...ferent-screens/ |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:15 PM
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That link doesnt say anything about resolution, it is about the LCD color temperature.
Yes, my 3G unit is warmer in color, which may be perceived as that yellow tint bias. But upon watching live action clips, the colors are warmer and more natural, as compared to the blue tint biased EDGE iPhone i also have. Blue tint bias makes computer-generated features like Pixar movies look better, but not necessarily the live action clips. I like the warmer temperature colors myself. It is a matter of preference, really. |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 07:07 PM) That stress test is done to replicate the average Joe Consumer, which happens to lie within the "dumb" section of the consumer scale. These groups of consumer only care what their iPhones can do, and could not care less about if it is scratches or not. I've been using my iPhone without a case & screen protector for quite a while, and there's scratches and chips on its back. There's visible scratches on both my notebooks. My MBP has suffered a drop and one corner of its bottom case is dented. Scratches. Wow. Big deal. The stuff still works and it serves its purpose. I must say, I do feel offended to be implied as part of the "dumb" section of the consumer scale.There's consumers who have pristine scratch-free MacBook Airs+fugly speck plastic cases+invisible shields that run BootCamp 90% of the time, only booting Mac OS to run PhotoBooth. Now that's dumb. |
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Jul 27 2008, 11:42 PM
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C'mon man, you know what I mean. You see the stress test also you know nobody in the right mind would be leaving their iPhones in pockets full with blades, or keys. Or dropped the iPhone accidentally, and dropped it 3 more times again. Or eating cereal and plunging it into the milk for good measure.
If you feel offended then I'm sorry. But I'd see this more on the Joe Six-Pack that could care less about the looks of his iPhone because he is on contract for 24 months, and can simply ask for a replacement iPhone because he has that privilege while he is on contract. Whatever lah, I've said my dues. Like the guy I've met just now, he gave me a very good advice. QUOTE "When you feel that you've stepped to far into the seriousness of the forum, it is time to step back. Life's too much of a good thing to let your blood pressure rise up because of a few sentences or lines of words from the people you hardly know" |
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Jul 28 2008, 12:47 AM
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Berundur bukan bererti kalah tapi mengatur langkah..... kata2 org dulu.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 27 2008, 11:42 PM) "When you feel that you've stepped to far into the seriousness of the forum, it is time to step back. Life's too much of a good thing to let your blood pressure rise up because of a few sentences or lines of words from the people you hardly know" QUOTE(baretta @ Jul 28 2008, 12:47 AM) Are we having philosophy lessons here? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jul 29 2008, 01:16 PM
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if you budget allows you, go for 3G. If paying much more, grab the 1st gen enough.
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Jul 29 2008, 01:19 PM
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kenapa... begitu... serius???
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Jul 29 2008, 01:36 PM
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@stringfellow,
I don't know who "that fellow" was but I'm gonna borrow that/his quote |
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Jul 29 2008, 01:46 PM
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Why So Serious ? ? ?
I prefer the latest gadget though but the price is so Hope the next iPhone, our DiGi will get the contract so that we only pay RM199 per month for 2 years contract |
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Jul 29 2008, 01:52 PM
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Jul 29 2008, 01:58 PM
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@stringfellow,
Good... I've just used it on another discussion topic - someone was picking on ol little me there *sniff sniff* @Notoriez, RM199 contract x 24 months is cheap?! Er... well if Ur current usage exceeds RM199 p/month then I guess it's cheap but if ur current usage is RM70 then I think it's v expensive ! |
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Jul 29 2008, 02:18 PM
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i3g16gblack oh yeah.... but i can't wait what china cap ayam phones lineup to compete with it lah.... another supprise from chinapple in near time would be nice.... hehehehe....
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Jul 31 2008, 07:23 PM
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Aug 1 2008, 05:49 PM
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3g! white is sexy!
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