what is the cheapest inverter ac available?...having in mind panasonic,mitsubishi,electrolux...
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 May 15 2012, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(ivanlio1989 @ Jun 4 2012, 07:24 PM) i bought mitsubishi heavy industries according to the salesman its better that the mitsubhshi electric one... 1.0hp standard non inverter include basic installation- rm950 2.0hp standard non inverter include basic installatiion- rm2150 total rm3100 Will install this wednesday... Is the price o.k?  Where you bought those air conditioner??... |
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Jun 9 2012, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Jun 8 2012, 06:56 PM) This one for Inverter Deluxe Right? i.e S10NKH? I just called Onking subang branch and they said RM1200 excluding installation. Anyone has better price elsewhere for S10NKH? How come the price (leafy) got is cheaper than yours when both are the same things and same shop which is onking?...btw the best price i hav got so far is RM1150 for inverter deluxe panasonic CS-S10NKH 1HP...but their installation fee is so so expensive RM280...@_@...anyone can provide 1HP inverter air cond installation price???...if got good installer also good to share...This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Jun 9 2012, 02:30 AM |
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Aug 4 2012, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Aug 4 2012, 01:20 AM) Any minimum space/height needed between the air cond to the ceiling? If u put ur ac very very near to ur ceiling, the air circulation will not be good...as the air intake is located up there..... nowadays ac no more air intake from front panel...but i notice many people didn't know this and their ac often cools down slower...some even hide half of their ac into the plaster ceiling...After plaster ceiling, I only left 14" for the air cond and curtain rail/track. Any idea which air cond has the shortest height? So far I only found Daikin one is shorter as compare to Mitsubishi Electric and Heavy Industries. |
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Aug 29 2012, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Aug 18 2012, 10:19 PM) Is it suggested to buy an inverter Air Cond if just turn on for 3-4 hours daily ? How big is ur room?...bedroom or living hall?...Added on August 29, 2012, 12:54 am QUOTE(neekun @ Aug 19 2012, 09:43 AM) Sharp lowest performance?? I was thinking to get one unit of Sharp 1HP inverter for room cause like its plasma thingy :-p Panasonic and Hitachi is more reliable and they have purification thingy also...mitsubishi also very reliable but not to fancy towards purification thingy and most important of coz you need a professional installer in the first place to ensure that ur ac will not giv any problem later on.....york is good for living hall also because of its long air throw but since you are getting a inverter one..be sure that its btu is more than enough instead of just enough or insufficient else it will take forever to cool down and waste electric...just my two centFor downstair living hall, I am planning to get one unit of York 1.5HP inverter. Do you have any reliable brand to recommend apart from Sharp? This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Aug 29 2012, 12:56 AM |
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QUOTE(kiasu84 @ Aug 29 2012, 09:52 AM) Hi, Went to AirCon hunting recently. One of the salesperson are promoting Electrolux air con. Anyone got review of this aircon brand? They say there are only in this industry for 2 years. But the price seems ok. 1hp RM899... Am quite attracted to their aircond too...i mean the viva grande series..with its inverter power saving...i think it saves more power compared to panasonic...the design is also so nice... |
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Aug 30 2012, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(peachmonkey @ Aug 30 2012, 12:01 AM) Hrmm, I better check back the dimensions of the space. It does seem quite big by the number. Coz some people I know living in the same condo have installed either a 2hp or 2.5hp air con for the same place. I'll have another look at the plan drawing and try to approximate the room size   .......48 SquareMeter = 517 square feet...21,800BTU ...so basically 2HP just nice or 2.5HP is more than enough..3HP would be perfect but inverter only have up to 2.5HP...and make sure the aircond is placed in an ideal place for even air distribution and circulation...u may go for Panasonic or Mitsubishi for reliability or York for long air throw thus fast cooling and also reliable...but the key point is professional installer to ensure ac will not giv u any problem...if u wan inverter..make sure the living hall is properly insulated or else no point using inverter coz it takes forever to cools.... |
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Aug 30 2012, 12:42 AM) No offense, but cooling rate of about 42 BTU/H/sq.ft seems too low! A proper heat load calculation considering the heat from exposed windows, walls, doors, unconditioned partitions, lightings, electrical appliances, occupants, infiltration, etc. is recommended. ...42btu which is 2HP is just nice for those who do not wan a ''arctic'' kind of cooling condition...I do recommend a 3HP for a PERFECT condition which is 28,661 BTU...equivalent to 55.437/hr/sq.ft...offered by MITSUBISHI or 27,000BTU for Panasonic...  Added on August 30, 2012, 3:18 pm QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 30 2012, 08:40 AM) 2HP for that size is not enough. My ground floor inclusive of dinning and dry kitchen area about that size. Living room 2 hp and dining 1hp that only get cooling if I switch it on both. If only living room AC is switch on it will take time to cool the living room and really not that cooling to my standard. Different house got different heat builds up in the room each hour...this all will affected by various condition such as air cond circulation for example an aircond which is placed wrongly at the very corner of the room...number of windows...room insulation...number of people an so on...so the number of aircond u hav doesn't mean that other ppl need that quantity too...if ur standard is arctic cool standard than go get few 6HP ac... Don't use online calculator that are for oversees country. You need top get calculator for our climates. Best go ask experience contractor. Added on August 30, 2012, 3:22 pm QUOTE(napoli26 @ Aug 30 2012, 03:05 PM) if my living area 270 sqf, height 18 feet, 2.5hp aircond enough ? Enough...  This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Aug 30 2012, 03:22 PM |
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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Sep 7 2012, 04:16 AM) Need some advise here. Looking to figure out airconds for my upcoming home im moving into. Total size of this condo is 1465 sq feet Master bedroom----1HP OR 1.5HP Inverter ---Panasonic Delux/Inverter Delux/Mitsubishi Delux ModelMaster bedroom - 170 sq feet (excluding bathroom) middle room - 190 sq feet dining with kitchen (not too worried if kitchen is not cool) - 235 sq feet Hall and Living room (both connected) 325 sq feet All over ceiling height is 9 feet. No sun hits into anywhere in the unit and plan to install 5 blade fans so to not rely on too much air cond Can anyone pls advise how many HP air conds and BRANDS I should use for each of the areas? Thanks Middle room---------1HP OR 1.5HP Inverter----Panasonic Delux/Inverter Delux/Mitsubishi Delux Model Dining with kitchen--1.5HP ----Panasonic Delux Hall and Living room-2HP ----Panasonic Delux/York |
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QUOTE(ummul21 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:26 PM) Hi Panasonic or Mitsubishi I'm looking for 1HP air cond for my master bedroom. Budget not more that RM 1.2K. No need inverter type Tried York before in my parent house... don't like it very much. Some sales guy recommend Daikin... is it a good one? anyone used before? I will not be using it for the whole night, normally I will turn it on for 2-3 hours only. Or any other good brand to recommend? Thanks...  ...daikin not bad la ...Added on September 15, 2012, 12:28 am QUOTE(lengonn @ Sep 14 2012, 09:16 AM) recently I went to one shop in klang selling all Bestec air-cond at ; Didn't even know that this brand ever exist in this world... 1) 1.0 HP - RM880 (include install) 2) 2.0 HP - RM 1,700 (include install) I was told its a China Made but how reliable is this? as the price is very attractive compare to others and my dad wanted this brand cuz "his fren's shop'... anyone tried this or have comments on this brand??  ...if such price...then why not go for york or acson if wan a little cheaper(york last up to a decade if well maintained)?...usually china ac would not last long if its cheap...use before mistral(chinamade) but it sucks...mitsubishi is still the best...This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Sep 15 2012, 12:31 AM |
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Sep 15 2012, 11:45 PM) All forumers, What is the comment about the the York 1.5hp ceiling cassette type aircond? cassette air cond suitable for even air distribution...depends on your floor layout...for cassette type..most people especially office and shops will go for york/acson...Is it better or worse than 1.5hp spit unit? TQ~~ Added on September 16, 2012, 3:30 pm QUOTE(lowlowc @ Sep 16 2012, 10:53 AM) Hi, 1.0HP will slightly underpower...depends on what brand you take...if u use ac calculator, it shows that you need 10,000btu...which york ac have it...other mostly 9,000++btu...if at night u sleep with the wardrobe door closed, then 1hp is sufficient...i will recommend you to use panasonic delux model because they have horizontal air flow direction thus can automatically distribute cold air to the left of your room...of coz larger hp produce louder noice because of its larger airflow but for 1 and 1.5 hp..merely can hear their difference...if you plan to use inverter, then better take 1.5hp...I'm planning to buy aircon for my master bedroom and at first thinking of using 1.5HP, then some friends came to my house and mentioned they use 1.0 only for their room which is about my size. Here's the layout of my room, measurement in cm. The line in red color are the windows (3 panels and not tinted) and there's a walk in wardrobe (with sliding door) and inside the wardrobe is the toilet. The blue color area is where I'm going to put my aircon. I moved it from its original point above the window to make place for full length curtains. There's a ceiling fan in the middle of the room.  It's very warm in the afternoon, that I don't dare to take afternoon nap in it on weekends. During dry days (which is very frequent nowadays), it's warm at night too. I just want to maintain my room temperature at around 22 to 24 degrees. Is 1.0 sufficient for my case? And is HP going to affect the noise it make? Added on September 16, 2012, 3:33 pm QUOTE(lionfish77 @ Sep 16 2012, 11:04 AM) i have a similar size room and I am going to use 1hp only. But then I am different ... I dont want the room to be cold ... just maintain nice temperature. ducting is for ceiling concealed type ac...for ceiling cassette ...no need such thing...but its true that ceiling cassette cost slightly more than normal split type acAdded on September 16, 2012, 11:06 am ceiling cassette type will cost more right? and you will need some kind of ducting? This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Sep 16 2012, 03:33 PM |
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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Sep 16 2012, 09:54 PM) 10,000 BTU is equal with how much of HP? I searched online and it says 4HP. 10,000btu = almost 1hp...Not a problem...you can always move the horizontal air flow direction urself..is just that panasonic's one move by itself based on human activity...if u don't need a very cooled room then 1hp will sufficient...since now u are not getting inverter then 1hp is enough...because if non inverter and u overpower it and summore set it at 24~25degree...the compressor will keep start and stop frequently thus consume alot of electricity and reduce its lifespan...just close ur wardrobe door when u switch on ur ac... I was actually quite set on getting a Mitsubishi Mr Slim before this after seeing the reviews online and after checking with a friend who's family business is air conditioning line (he's selling York himself). Will it work for this room, if I went for 1.5HP, with no function like horizontal cold air? I won't be using inverter. 1.5HP will be fine to maintain my room temp to just nice 24 degrees, and not too cold? Sorry I'm a noob when comes to aircon cause previously never had the need to install aircon when I was living in previous house. I asked that based on my aircon in office that seemed to be freezing cold even though we set it to warmer temperature. But then again, the office's aircon is the ducting ceiling type, don't know if that's same case or not. Added on September 17, 2012, 12:34 am QUOTE(popice2u @ Sep 16 2012, 10:11 PM) room: 9.5' x 14', 1HP enuf? and what model brand good? Enough...mitsubishi or panasonic...Added on September 17, 2012, 12:37 am QUOTE(pasquinel @ Sep 16 2012, 11:50 PM) Anyone installed ceiling concealed duct type airconds for their homes? Know Hom much it costs? are you living in a bungalow?...coz for normal home...i think it will be too noisy for such air cond...and of coz it cost more when add up with the ducting system...This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Sep 17 2012, 12:37 AM |
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[quote=pasquinel,Sep 17 2012, 10:49 AM]
Added on September 17, 2012, 12:37 am are you living in a bungalow?...coz for normal home...i think it will be too noisy for such air cond...and of coz it cost more when add up with the ducting system... [/quote] Moving to a double storey link house. But I like the idea of a concealed aircond like in the hotel rooms. Where the aircond doesn't clash with the interior design. [/quote] Yes its nice for the ac to be concealed but i can't imagine the noise it will produce.. ...and it will also cost alot on the ac itself and the ducting..because u need a two way ducting system...so better go for ceiling cassette?Added on September 17, 2012, 5:54 pm[quote=popice2u,Sep 17 2012, 01:41 PM] those brand with energy saving really save electricity? i thought having an inverter type will automatically means energy saving. [/quote] it really saves energy...but with its own t&c.....the whole idea of inverter is it can rotate its compressor spinning speed...almost same like car's VVTI...conventional ac will cut off its compressor completely when it reaches its desired temperature but for inverter, it will reduce the compressor's rotation so that it can maintain the preset temp but not completely like conventional type ac because the starting and stopping of a compressor draw few times more of energy compared to when it is in normal working condition...and if u underpower ur inverter ac, it will take forever to cool down thus doesn't save any energy... This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Sep 17 2012, 05:54 PM |
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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ Oct 25 2012, 10:52 AM) Not sure about your intention, do you want to do installment? Chinese man shop cheaper?...mind to share the location and what aircond brand and price?All my electrical items are purchased from those small chinese man shop, price also cheaper to those chain shops. But need to pay cash. Added on October 25, 2012, 3:12 pm QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Oct 23 2012, 11:34 PM) Hi all. My husband planned to install few units of Daikin brand non inverter ac for the new house as he got the info saying that Daikin ac has good quality material. However myself I would like to pick York brand becoz my colleagues comment York has very good & fast cooling effect. Any end users or sifu mind to share your experience & opinion? York is reliable enough but in terms of sound level...they are not good...and i agree with forumer iamsobloddysick...york just don't have 5star ac compared to panasonic or LG...p/s read from above saying that daikin ac need special wiring? Currently my new house is having all the ac wiring & piping. So means all cannot use daikin ac? Thanks! Added on October 25, 2012, 3:17 pm QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Oct 23 2012, 06:01 PM) My room's air cond has weird sound for past few days. Just now i open up the indoor unit and found it has really crazy amount of dust. not faulty lah bro...u just need to call ac man come and do chemical wash...like car...ac do have minor service like washing filter and major service like chemical wash...based on what u tell...it seems like u hav not done any chemical cleaning before huh?...how many years of usage and what brand is it?fyi, i do regularly clean the filter once a month and do a pretty comprehensive wiping of the blower every 3 months or so, and i've never encounter this huge amount of dust. I however never cleanse the cooling fins cause the first time i try to clean them, i notice how fragile and easily i could accidentally bend them. upon inspection, i notice moisture build up inside the unit. Heck i can see water droplet on the fins, and i guess its the moisture that attract all the dusts. is the unit faulty? any advise? This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Oct 25 2012, 03:19 PM |
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QUOTE(+ @ Oct 26 2012, 05:23 PM) what star? Means that york don't have luxury line ac..like LG they have art cool series...like panasonic they have whole lots of feature like eco-navi...ohters brand feature like plasmacluster,all-aluminium,wasabi air purifier,pam control,ionizer and so on...york only started to introduce new feature like ion-plasma...previously they only have those normal series... Added on October 26, 2012, 5:36 pm1hp enough for 22*15' master bedroom? Added on October 26, 2012, 10:45 pm QUOTE(+ @ Oct 26 2012, 08:38 PM) got fan spinning inside also not enuff o? People measure ac power based on how much heat need to be cooled...not measure by ''FAN''...if fan can bring ur room cooled..why bordered to install ac?  Added on October 26, 2012, 10:47 pm QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 26 2012, 09:06 PM) samsung aircond good? Not at all... ...consider other brand instead of samsung...samsung might be very good in mobile line,AV line but definitely not in air cond...This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Oct 26 2012, 11:08 PM |
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Oct 26 2012, 11:54 PM) Anyone check out the Mitsubishi air con price in this weekend Homedec? 1HP=RM1399...they giv me RM1229 + inst RM210 (inverter model)Added on October 27, 2012, 6:59 pm QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ Oct 27 2012, 09:04 AM) Bro, the star rating is referring to energy consumption rating. Higher stars mean less power consumption... oh...misunderstood alrd...but of coz i know more stars means better... This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Oct 27 2012, 06:59 PM |
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Oct 27 2012, 08:33 PM) Today I went to one shop to ask about panasonic aircond. i asked the salesman issit panasonic brand good and he kinda shook his head saying that panasonic aircond now all made in China, no more in M'sia. Some of their part are from china...and yes you should go for mitsubishi...so far mitsubishi receive the least complaint and their inverter 1hp model is the quietest(19db) and most save electric(EER of 13.33) compared to ALL other...i asked which brand he would recommend and he said Carrier or Mitsubishi. So, is it true panasonic not that good anymore? Should I go for Mitsubishi instead? |
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QUOTE(s30ckf @ Oct 29 2012, 05:05 PM) how about brand like Midea or Gree? Anyone using this brand and how the performance? not everyone dares to try...coz their quality is so so...midea last time my colleague use before and complaint on noise and water dripping...invest more..get one that can last u up to a decade...Added on October 29, 2012, 6:53 pm QUOTE(chae @ Oct 29 2012, 06:05 PM) so conclusion which AC is good? less sound and save electricity + no hassle for maintenance. I would say Mitsubishi electric, lowest sound and the savest in electricity for 1HP model...but at the end also must see your luck...This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Oct 29 2012, 06:54 PM |
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Oct 31 2012, 04:41 PM) I installed two units Panasonic inverter 1.5hp and 1.0hp. Isn't normal installation provide free 10ft?...and wow..your 1HP extend till 25ft?...recommended would be maximum 10ft you know...this will reduce the air cond's efficiency ...how much you bough the ac?..mind to share?1.5hp total17ft and first 5ft is free so the balance have to pay 12ft @ RM 26/ft = RM 312 1.0hp total 25ft and first 5ft is free so the balance have to pay 20ft @ RM 18/ft = RM 360 Casing to cover the black rubber, total RM 330. Is it a normal expenses? |
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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Nov 1 2012, 06:26 AM) anyone have EER of the common 1hp and 1.5 hp airconds> Inverter or non-inverter?Need to get 3 x 1hp and 2 x 1.5 hp for my own place Appreciate any advice. thanks |
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