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post Oct 24 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(*CG* @ Oct 24 2013, 08:54 AM)
I agreed with Bro Platinum. Additional filter will increase pressure loss in whole system. If we look at the fan curve, the volume flow rate for a fan will reduce with the increase in pressure loss. Normally the fan coil manufacturers will select the fan duty point at highest efficiency or near highest efficiency region. With the shifting of the duty point, most probably you need more energy to achieve the required cooling effect.

One point for sure, more time is needed to achieve the required cooling effect with lower volume flow rate.
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Due to using additional filter can buy in Daiso from Japan products. These is very thin of the layer only.

Unless you paste with hepa filter.

If will be effect and how about hepa filter use in car cabin filter, and effect of the airflow?

Ok that is depend you want to follow or disagree me.


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post Oct 24 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 23 2013, 05:17 PM)
Hmm Daikin is good brand wow.
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Daikin inverter so far so good. Will try Mitsubishi as my friend say very cold.

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post Oct 24 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 24 2013, 01:21 PM)
Daikin inverter so far so good. Will try Mitsubishi as my friend say very cold.
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Correct for normal room size 4x3x3.2m high only set 25 degree with low fan as 21db only
If set on quiet lagi no noise at 19db smile.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 09:22 PM

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i dont know if this had been discussed....if a room is 15 feet from floor up to the ceiling...what is the ideal height to fix the blower? maybe 8 or 9 feet? anything higher then that will result in the aircond having to work longer to cool the room cos cool air sink while warm retained at the top? If blower is fixed at 9 feet...the aircond will only cool the room up to 9 feet...right? when the sensor at the blower detected that the room is cool enough it will reduce power. anything above the blower of 9 feet will not be as cool as below the 9 feet and after all its not necessary to cool any space above it.
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post Oct 28 2013, 10:01 PM

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To all sifus here

Please help me decide between Panasonic Standard vs Mitsubishi Electronics Mr. Slim, price is similiar

1.0 hp RM900
1.5 hp Inverter RM1550
2.0 hp RM1900

all these excluding installation, i alrdy have concealed pipings for all 3 types of AC

Thank you
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post Oct 28 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 22 2013, 11:31 AM)
How bout York non-inverter?
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You seems know alot of information about aircond. Im now torn between York and mitsubishi mr.slim. which one better and why. ..
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Oct 28 2013, 10:14 PM)
You seems know alot of information about aircond. Im now torn between York and  mitsubishi mr.slim. which one better and why. ..
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York is made in malaysia also heavy duty used and heavy noisy from indoor fan noise and outdoor compressor over a year of usage.
the rest no major issue, if choose from York inverter quite cold also, becoz my mother in law in kampung using now, already 2++ years.

Mitsubishi more cold and quiet speed fan control and better compressor, even over fews year on outside compressor still not much noise.

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QUOTE(812799 @ Oct 28 2013, 10:01 PM)
To all sifus here

Please help me decide between Panasonic Standard vs Mitsubishi Electronics Mr. Slim, price is similiar

1.0 hp RM900
1.5 hp Inverter RM1550
2.0 hp RM1900

all these excluding installation, i alrdy have concealed pipings for all 3 types of AC

Thank you
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panasonic have to try luck also, same like lower specs may not really cooling as fast, unless you set higher fan speed and lower temperature.

if mitsubishi Mr. Slim is better than panasonic brand and quality, if you can select mitsubishi StarMex inverter to be save more money for every month bill.
cold wise better than all..
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post Oct 28 2013, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 28 2013, 10:51 PM)
panasonic have to try luck also, same like lower specs may not really cooling as fast, unless you set higher fan speed and lower temperature.

if mitsubishi Mr. Slim is better than panasonic brand and quality, if you can select mitsubishi StarMex inverter to be save more money for every month bill.
cold wise better than all..
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thanks bro for the feedback, urm i've not heard of Starmex before doh.gif , but the 1.5 inverter will be in my masterbedroom, 6 hrs daily for sure ... 2.0 for my living room which i think will be quite underused, and the other 1.0 will be in guest room, lagi once in a blue moon usage ...

Starmex is under ME or MHI ?
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QUOTE(gentman @ Oct 28 2013, 09:22 PM)
i dont know if this had been discussed....if a room is 15 feet from floor up to the ceiling...what is the ideal height to fix the blower? maybe 8 or 9 feet? anything higher then that will result in the aircond having to work longer to cool the room cos cool air sink while warm retained at the top? If blower is fixed at 9 feet...the aircond will only cool the room up to 9 feet...right? when the sensor at the blower detected that the room is cool enough it will reduce power. anything above the blower of 9 feet will not be as cool as below the 9 feet and after all its not necessary to cool any space above it.
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4500-4600mm consider higher ceiling, you may switch on 2 hours before for going to sleep...
due to highest ceiling may more heat and wait until cooling all the wall and ceiling then going down to floor level only.

temperature or fan speed can be set to normal on 25degree and low speed, if you choose on inverter 1hp model.
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post Oct 28 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 28 2013, 10:47 PM)
York is made in malaysia also heavy duty used and heavy noisy from indoor fan noise and outdoor compressor over a year of usage.
the rest no major issue, if choose from York inverter quite cold also, becoz my mother in law in kampung using now, already 2++ years.

Mitsubishi more cold and quiet speed fan control and better compressor, even over fews year on outside compressor still not much noise.
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So in short, Mitsubishi Mr Slim will be the choice over York. M I right?
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Oct 28 2013, 10:59 PM)
So in  short, Mitsubishi Mr Slim will be the choice over York. M I right?
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these is also depend on your budget lah....
for me i would go for mitsubishielectric - > http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...nd/non-inverter

even non inverter but still got built in i-see sensor for power saving.
MS-FG10VC
Cooling Capacity:
2.6kW/1HP

MS-FG13VC
Cooling Capacity:
3.2kW/1.5HP

Main Features:
• Easy Clean
• Triple Plasma+
• i-see Sensor
• Nano-Platinum Filter
• 7&2 Years Warranty

MS-GH10VC
Cooling Capacity:
2.6kW/1HP

MS-GH13VC
Cooling Capacity:
3.2kW/1.5HP

Main Features:
• Easy Clean
• Nano-Platinum Filter
• 7&2 Years Warranty
if compare to others for mitsubishielectric use less power consumption

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I paid deposit last weekend for Mitsubishi Mr.Slim standard aircond. Yesterday I went over to the shop and change to York. The shop's guy told me York is specialised on AirCond but not Mitsubishi. York comes with the long flow 6m for standard unit (Mitsubishi also available but for 2hp above).

Don't know about years of usage, but from the specification sheet, York seems quiet than Mitsubishi.

Mitsubishi comes with lots of features like easy clean, filter etc. But I not sure why the shop guy ask me want to consider York or not.

And the most important is, York cheaper.


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QUOTE(F0F0 @ Oct 29 2013, 09:26 AM)
I paid deposit last weekend for Mitsubishi Mr.Slim standard aircond. Yesterday I went over to the shop and change to York. The shop's guy told me York is specialised on AirCond but not Mitsubishi. York comes with the long flow 6m for standard unit (Mitsubishi also available but for 2hp above).

Don't know about years of usage, but from the specification sheet, York seems quiet than Mitsubishi.

Mitsubishi comes with lots of features like easy clean, filter etc. But I not sure why the shop guy ask me want to consider York or not.

And the most important is, York cheaper.
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Not worried, bro..
Cheap = better..
Life spend can last up 10 years = worth it
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post Nov 1 2013, 05:28 PM

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My Mitsubishi electric mr slim inverter 1HP is doing very well and cold, 2 units of Mitsubishi 1Hp inverter for night sleeping 1/2 month bill is RM75, is it cheap? House lighting mostly LED except some fluorescent tub
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QUOTE(sushipig @ Nov 1 2013, 05:28 PM)
My Mitsubishi electric mr slim inverter 1HP is doing very well and cold, 2 units of Mitsubishi 1Hp inverter for night sleeping 1/2 month bill is RM75, is it cheap? House lighting mostly LED except some fluorescent tub
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So u realise about the power of Starmex.
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post Nov 2 2013, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 1 2013, 05:47 PM)
So u realise about the power of Starmex.
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Mine is Mr Slim inverter, no Starmex written on my AC? Or Starmex is a kind of technology?
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QUOTE(sushipig @ Nov 2 2013, 12:23 AM)
Mine is Mr Slim inverter, no Starmex written on my AC? Or Starmex is a kind of technology?
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maybe mine is direct imported from singapore one.. got starmex inverter

your is after malaysia model from thailand market to be made for all..
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Anyone looking for Hitachi 1.5hp aircon?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...11920&hl=AIRCON
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York is not a good brand. I have 2 york at my office.

1st install, water drips. Fixed on the spot.
1st month, very cold. I mean VERY COLD, not just COOL. I am impressed.
2nd month, average.
3rd month, air-cond breakdown due to the area where the outdoor unit is installed. The area doesn't have enough room to dissipate heat (but the area has aluminium lining that allows air to go out)
4th month, from very cold become cool air then eventually it just went straight downhill.

One break down, it's ok. But two york breakdown at the same time? And service is bad. They come and didn't settle my problem. Just ASK me to open the aluminium lining to reveal the air cond to dissipate the heat and he even told me if I didn't do that, the aircond unit will breakdown faster in 1 year time. But all my neighbors in the office lots doesn't have these problem, why my York so special??

I agree that York is not a good brand. The indoor unit build is like cheap plastic unlike the Mitsubishi I used at home.

Go for Mitsubishi. The price is a little bit more expensive but more worth the hassle.


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