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Ryan Soo
post Oct 16 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 07:25 AM)
Set lower temp + higher fan speed, can cover wider area.
Panasonic inverter got offer with 360degree of swing left & right + up down in auto mode.
Unless your panasonic inverter under power smile.gif
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Even i set it to auto(both up-down & letf-right swing), i can't feel the air if my sitting/standing location is out of the 90 degree coverable area sweat.gif

yes, unless i set to highest speed, else i can't feel the air..

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post Oct 16 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 16 2013, 07:41 AM)
This Mitsubishi E24 can control up-down and left-right swing.
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thanks i might research more on this..
are you using this aircond too in your room? any comment?
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ryan Soo @ Oct 14 2013, 10:50 PM)
currently i am using panasonic inverter 1 hp in my bedroom..the aircond unit was good(thumbs up), but the compressor(which place outside my room window) was kinda noisy..at night can hear the sound while on bed. it is brand new.

so now i am thinking to get an aircond for my new house master bedroom. same thing the compressor, i will place outside my window too...but after having bad experience with my panasonic, i m thinking to try other brand which compressor operate quietly. i need recommendation from fellow forummers here. smile.gif

my budget : less than rm1.3k
requirements : 1hp, inverter, QUIET compressor, aircond blower(left to right : can swing 140 degree), easy maintenance, usage about 3 hours per day only...

any that suits my requirement?
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Agreed with u.
my 1.5HP panasonic inverter deluxe also got the same issue.
it is quite loud but not until it affect my sleep.
but mostly during "pick up" period. after 20mins it seems back to OK sound.
The funny thg is, the 2.5HP inverter compressor seems quiet than the 1.5HP one. notworthy.gif

this photo taken during installation, so the hole filled up already smile.gif
any idea if i can take off the red sticker if will void the warranty?
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ryan Soo @ Oct 16 2013, 11:36 AM)
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thanks i might research more on this..
are you using this aircond too in your room? any comment?
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It is a 2.5hp and use it in the Living/Dining area. Quiet but powerful cooling. Only think I dislike is the form factor....too big. The blower is 1.1m in length sweat.gif
1hp model is smaller.
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ryan Soo @ Oct 16 2013, 11:35 AM)
Even i set it to auto(both up-down & letf-right swing), i can't feel the air if my sitting/standing location is out of the 90 degree coverable area  sweat.gif

yes, unless i set to highest speed, else i can't feel the air..
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For Mitsubishi starmex should not have it issue..
Maybe is more cooling at whole area..
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Oct 16 2013, 12:02 PM)
Agreed with u.
my 1.5HP panasonic inverter deluxe also got the same issue.
it is quite loud but not until it affect my sleep.
but mostly during "pick up" period. after 20mins it seems back to OK sound.
The funny thg is, the 2.5HP inverter compressor seems quiet than the 1.5HP one.  notworthy.gif

this photo taken during installation, so the hole filled up already smile.gif
any idea if i can take off the red sticker if will void the warranty?
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For sure sticker just present that aircond got 5 star energy saving only.
If cannot peel off, then my LED tv cannot watch already.
In 4 corner pasted sticker too.

Panasonic had cost cutting that's why more noisy, like my hitachi inverter also same.
After usage less than 1 month to be relocated into other room smile.gif
After used the starmex had no issue at all.
When starting got nimor casing Ta Ta sound due to plastic temperature changed is very common.

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post Oct 16 2013, 01:19 PM

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My contractor quote me conceal price 1HP Inverter RM400 11 feet piping & 2HP Inverter RM500 11 feet piping.
Then installation 1HP Inverter RM350 & 2HP Inverter RM500. It is reasonable?


QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 01:00 PM)
For sure sticker just present that aircond got 5 star energy saving only.
If cannot peel off, then my LED tv cannot watch already.
In 4 corner pasted sticker too.

Panasonic had cost cutting that's why more noisy, like my hitachi inverter also same.
After usage less than 1 month to be relocated into other room smile.gif
After used the starmex had no issue at all.
When starting got nimor casing Ta Ta sound due to plastic temperature changed is very common.
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This post has been edited by petlu28: Oct 16 2013, 01:36 PM
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:34 PM

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Hmmm. I heard a lot of good comments on Mitsubishi Starmex. Are you referring to Single Split vs Multi Split? What is Pros and Cons?

Thank 1st for your comments. Cheers.
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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Oct 16 2013, 01:34 PM)
Hmmm. I heard a lot of good comments on Mitsubishi Starmex. Are you referring to Single Split vs Multi Split? What is Pros and Cons?

Thank 1st for your comments. Cheers.
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In m'sia no body use multi split unit.
1 compressor fault = all cannot used smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 01:38 PM)
In m'sia no body use multi split unit.
1 compressor fault = all cannot used smile.gif
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True also ! Seem to me it is only famous in SG?

Another cons for using multi-split could be on the conceal piping cost. Imagine if you were to install the outdoor unit at the back, you need to to pull your pipes all the way from front to outdoor unit at the back. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Oct 16 2013, 01:39 PM)
True also ! Seem to me it is only famous in SG?
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Sg have no chance, due to space limit.
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 01:43 PM)
Sg have no chance, due to space limit.
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The pros i can see so far (1) save space, (2) lower maintenance cost. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Oct 16 2013, 01:19 PM)
My contractor quote me conceal price 1HP Inverter RM400 11 feet piping & 2HP Inverter RM500 11 feet piping.
Then installation 1HP Inverter RM350 & 2HP Inverter RM500. It is reasonable?
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I think it is not reasonable.
The conceal price already include the copper pipe and waste water pipe, how come the aircond installation still charge at RM350 ??
Normal back to back standard installation ( no conceal) for 1 HP is RM150 with 10ft copper pipe. Additional length at RM10 per foot run.
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post Oct 16 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Oct 16 2013, 01:19 PM)
My contractor quote me conceal price 1HP Inverter RM400 11 feet piping & 2HP Inverter RM500 11 feet piping.
Then installation 1HP Inverter RM350 & 2HP Inverter RM500. It is reasonable?
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overcharge imo
mine conceal piping(hacking)..1.5hp inverter + 22 feet(include 10 feet that come with the aircond) = RM350

price exclude aircond installation..
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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Oct 16 2013, 01:44 PM)
The pros i can see so far (1) save space, (2) lower maintenance cost.  tongue.gif
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Sorry is no choice to installed single unit.

Con :
Expansive piping due to from end to end joint to the main condenser only.
Once PCB fault all can't used
One compressor to support all room, for total BTU to have sharing all the rooms, do u think can keep cooling as fast than single unit?

So far in m'sia is the winner at all.
One unit fault and replace easily smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 02:22 PM

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Ok Then what the price should how much?

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 16 2013, 01:50 PM)
I think it is not reasonable.
The conceal price already include the copper pipe and waste water pipe, how come the aircond installation still charge at RM350 ??
Normal back to back standard installation ( no conceal) for 1 HP is RM150 with 10ft copper pipe. Additional length at RM10 per foot run.
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post Oct 16 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Oct 16 2013, 01:19 PM)
My contractor quote me conceal price 1HP Inverter RM400 11 feet piping & 2HP Inverter RM500 11 feet piping.
Then installation 1HP Inverter RM350 & 2HP Inverter RM500. It is reasonable?
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I think.
the quotation could be like that:
If you want conceal, then Rm400 include copper pipe + outlet pipe but no installation.
If you dun wan conceal, then RM350 include copper pipe + installation.
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post Oct 16 2013, 02:40 PM

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My Master bedroom is using Panasonic inverter 1.5HP. Not noisy at all, even compressor are silent.

Earlier had a problem with gas leak this are due to installation issue, and taken down the compressor and blower few time to check. It does make noise after that, but is due to re-installation issue and rectified later.

Most of the time when users complain noisy is because the installation was not done properly.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 16 2013, 02:40 PM)
My Master bedroom is using Panasonic inverter 1.5HP. Not noisy at all, even compressor are silent.

Earlier had a problem with gas leak this are due to installation issue, and taken down the compressor and blower few time to check. It does make noise after that, but is due to re-installation issue and rectified later.

Most of the time when users complain noisy is because the installation was not done properly.
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My left right neighbor installed panasonic in 1st batch of 12k btu inverter still running well and fan motor & compressor noise still not much diff than when new, just slightly higher a bit, due to dirty fan blade.

The other side installed Daikin non-inverter after 1 yr usage the noise still same as older aircond.
The noise like King King Kong kong..

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 02:00 PM)
For sure sticker just present that aircond got 5 star energy saving only.
If cannot peel off, then my LED tv cannot watch already.
In 4 corner pasted sticker too.

Panasonic had cost cutting that's why more noisy, like my hitachi inverter also same.
After usage less than 1 month to be relocated into other room smile.gif
After used the starmex had no issue at all.
When starting got nimor casing Ta Ta sound due to plastic temperature changed is very common.
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Kha3. Really cannot tahan with ur assumptionla bro. He3.. this is ur pattern bro: anyting is expensive is good n cheap is not good (cost cutting) n everything about starmex is super duper good n outclass others. Can give guarantee somemore. He3.

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