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post Oct 16 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 02:00 PM)
For sure sticker just present that aircond got 5 star energy saving only.
If cannot peel off, then my LED tv cannot watch already.
In 4 corner pasted sticker too.

Panasonic had cost cutting that's why more noisy, like my hitachi inverter also same.
After usage less than 1 month to be relocated into other room smile.gif
After used the starmex had no issue at all.
When starting got nimor casing Ta Ta sound due to plastic temperature changed is very common.
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Kha3. Really cannot tahan with ur assumptionla bro. He3.. this is ur pattern bro: anyting is expensive is good n cheap is not good (cost cutting) n everything about starmex is super duper good n outclass others. Can give guarantee somemore. He3.
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post Oct 16 2013, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 16 2013, 07:43 PM)
My left right neighbor installed panasonic in 1st batch of 12k btu inverter still running well and fan motor & compressor noise still not much diff than when new, just slightly higher a bit, due to dirty fan blade.

The other side installed Daikin non-inverter after 1 yr usage the noise still same as older aircond.
The noise like King King Kong kong..
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Kha3.. another statement i cannot tahan. Kha3.. keep posting bro. I like ur statement, full of confidence. Ha3.

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post Oct 18 2013, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Oct 18 2013, 05:42 PM)
guys.. is good or bad for the aircond if there is an air ventilator on the ceiling as in the example pic below

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what i mean, before having airconds, my house has a roof turbine ventilator installed.. Now, I'm also installing an aircond inside the room. AT night time, the temperature inside the room is much cooler with the aircond, around 26 celcius, but the temperature above the ceiling (inside the roof) is much hotter, around 33 or higher.

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I wonder whether the hot roof temperature will 'travel' down into the room, causing the aircond to work much harder.. Should I seal those air ventilator's opening on the ceiling?
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No worries. The hot air wont goes down, bcause hot air will stay afloat and cool air will be at d bottom. D best if u can relocate d air grill so that d grill will be at the top of d a/c.

The worst will be the turbine sucking the cold air out. But this is very unlikely to happen since u have another air grill in another room. The air in ac room is much cooler than others, making it heavier n difficult to suck in. So what will hapen is, d turbine will tends to suck air from other room which is hotter.
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post Oct 19 2013, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 18 2013, 11:24 PM)
Not a good idea to make the grill on top of the a/c, blower suck air in from front and top, if it place too close it may suck the roof air, and your room will take longer time to cool. Just like in car, you switch from recycle air to outside air, your car will not feel that cold because is taking external air.
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This is based on theory or experience? It will work. Ur a.c wont have that strong suction power, not like vaccum. It dont have d strength to suck air from such a small hole n ur a.c distance from d ceiling (1 ft) making it almost impossible to happen.
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post Oct 19 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 19 2013, 08:59 AM)
Based on experience, and advice from installer.  I used to have a 8" vent fan beside the a/c. Later relocate to another direction and the room cooling are much faster. 1ft is not far, air movement still happen.
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As i thought. Ur case r diffent, d opening is too big n ur setup is active ventilation. It has greater risk of hot air back flow into d room, especially if ur roof vent cannot catter the incoming air, making the attic space positive in pressure

Anyway my sugestion was based on my own experience n its works. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 22 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 22 2013, 07:46 PM)
Can reused the same piping, to be use gas plugging before refill new R410a into inverter aircond smile.gif
But dunno the wiring will enough for inverter one.

For Acson is budget brand, power Consumption definitely is higher than any inverter aircond.
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Sure r bro, can use same piping? I thought need a new one, specially made for 410a gas, which is thicker, stronger n more expensive. Wiring also different inverter and non inverter.

If acson have inverter model, the power consumption wont differ that much.
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post Oct 22 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(safetylance @ Oct 22 2013, 08:02 PM)
Actually acson=York, originated from same plant
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Very true. Brand n expensive price doesnt guarantee quality.
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post Oct 22 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 22 2013, 07:53 PM)
Hmm....I may replace it with Daikin since both using R22 gas. May sell all 5 units of El Cheapo Acson. Thanks for the info.
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Good judgement bro.
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 23 2013, 07:57 AM)
Ya you guys sometime dun get confuse of mitsubish heavy industrial and Mitsubishielectric brand.

Both from same mother, but difference specs.

Starmex for inverter & mr. Slim for non-inverter if I am not mistaken.

Heavy industrial is without easy clean and diff. Btu and power consumption smile.gif
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Bro. Its only easy to clean d air blower only. That blower without easy cleaning function also very easy to clean one. Just blow a compressed air to it. Can buy it from ace at rm35 per bottle.

The real problem is cleaning the cooling fins/evaporator. Puting additional filter will only delay d process but it will hurt ur cooling capacity quite badly.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 28 2013, 05:37 PM)
From non inverter operate to 8 hours.
Calculate from 1hp only

Non inverter input watt : 0.8kw per hour.
30 days on 192kw x 3 units per mth : 576kw

Vs

Inverter unit cut down 50%
0.4kw x 8 x 30 = 96kw x 3 units of 30 days = 288kw = cheap.

For few months you earn back the installed with the whole unit cost.
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There surely some reduction in power consumption if u use inverter a.c.. but it wont be that much.

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