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kelvyn
post Aug 23 2011, 08:40 AM

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personally, I would chose the Panasonic over the Sharp
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:34 PM

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Not sure how noisy is being defined. My Pana aircon is not not as noisy are those York (my neighbour's) Any motor will have some noise. smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2011, 02:44 PM

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Quite standard. Their installation price is for 10ft copper piping only. If more, they will charge for the extra lengths.
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post Sep 10 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(magnifizio @ Sep 10 2011, 05:16 PM)
Hi kelvyn
So is RM20/ft a reasonable rate?
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These are the rates that I received for my aircon installer

Extra copper piping for 1 to 1.5 HP
Inverter - 16/FR
Non-Inverter - 12/FR
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post Sep 11 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Sep 11 2011, 05:14 PM)
lots of ppl complain on their air cond
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Really? What's was the complains?
Did not encountered major one so far...
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post Sep 13 2011, 09:26 AM

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why don't you try them out and then give your review later? tongue.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(magnifizio @ Sep 19 2011, 10:26 AM)
Hi, does anyone know the installation cost + back-to-back 10ft copper pipping for Panasonic Inverter Deluxe CS-S18MKH 2HP?
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It is normally included when you purchase the aircon. No?
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post Sep 21 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(alkw89 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:45 AM)
@noien,

thanks for reply. I have heard that toshiba is better too. and i saw someone mentioned hitachi aint tht good, they lasted for like a year only.
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It can't be that lousy, that last only for one year. Even the cheapest no brand aircon can last for a few years tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2011, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(itachi~ye @ Sep 28 2011, 11:17 PM)
Hi, when it is said that the aircond come with 10ft installation package, the installation is normally exposed type or they will include concealed piping? What is the charges for every ft extra?
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The additional should be around RM10-11/FR. Non conceal.
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post Oct 16 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Oct 16 2011, 12:38 AM)
sifu-sifu,

i got a problem with pana basic 1HP ac.

bought n installed the ac 2 mths ago, after install that day i test it, damn cold. Then i moving in and dint on the ac for 2 mths. Today go ON it, it do not cold at all !

what is the problem, could it be ac faulty or gas leaking? (the indoor unit and outdoor compressor seems working).
who should I ask to come check? the panasonic service center, or the ppl that install the ac ?
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Better to get the shop whom you bought the aircon from to take a look at the set. If you call up Pana directly, there could be some changes.
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post Oct 18 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Oct 18 2011, 05:07 PM)
i thought the normal parts are 1 yr warranty and compressor are 5 yrs warranty for pana AC ? still got charges if i direct call Pana?

crap, bad luck for me, my new house 1 pana AC not cold, 1 KDK fan got annoying sound and wobble, 1 Alpha fan got random bearing noise......crap now i know no such thing as THE BEST brand!!!

normally for those fan issue u all call the shop who sell you the fan, or direct call the service center?
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My office using pana aircon. Still under warranty. Now one of the compressor is making loud noise when running. My office contacted the Pana directly. Was told that they confirm that the aircon is still under warranty. They could send their technician to check. If required, they will replace the compressor FOC but they will charge for labour.
So, you would be better off if you get the shop whom you bought the set from to take a look. Let them deal with Pana directly.
just my 2 sen smile.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 29 2011, 01:39 PM)
Any feedback?
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No offense meant. smile.gif Why don't you read up the rest of the posting within this thread and you will have your answer immediately?

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Oct 29 2011, 02:11 PM
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post Nov 3 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 3 2011, 10:49 AM)
Your price are good. How about without installation?
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Are you planning to install them yourself after reading the horror stories about bad aircon installations. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 3 2011, 09:13 PM

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I was advised that every few months, you should switched on the aircon and let them run.
If the aircon hp were to be based on calculations, it will always be on the higher side. For me, I just use 1hp in all rooms. For the living & dining, just use 1.5hp. Don't need very low temperature.
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post Nov 4 2011, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 3 2011, 10:20 PM)

The problem with using lower hp aircons is that the compressor will need to come on more often to maintain a particular temperature. Thats why sometimes ppl who have installed inverter aircons still complain of high electricity bills.

BUt if your room is small then a 1.0HP will do. I dont think 1.5HP aircon is sufficient for an open area like the hall unless your hall is really small.
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For my room that is located on the highest floor, 15' x 15' x 9.5' ht, using a 1hp AC is more than sufficient.
For living & dining area, unless the area is enclosed (i.e no cold escape thru the stairwell, etc), as I was advised, even a 3hp AC will not be sufficient. So, it's all down to individual requirement.
As for me, I just use 1.5hp plus the ceiling fan. Works fine for me. smile.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 08:44 PM

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Copper piping for inverter AC is slightly thicker than those for non-inverter. If you have install the thicker piping for the inverter, you could still use for the non-inverter. But not vise versa.

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post Nov 16 2011, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(philipcs @ Nov 16 2011, 09:38 AM)
Sorry, let me do some correction. The 20x70 is the size for the entire house.
The built up area for living and dining area is 20x26 (including staircase) and dry kitchen area is 9x6

How should I place my air cons?
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It will also depends on what is the temperature you are expecting form the AC. You have a staircase, which I presume is open to the upper floor. Thus source for cold air to escape. Unless your living & dining areas are enclosed, it will be difficult to achieve a very low temp.


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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Nov 15 2011, 11:52 PM)
i dont think people will pay high for the inverter piping and use it for non inverter series aircond. if there is, it is only a small group of customers (price doesnt matter) would do so.

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The cost for the inverter copper piping is not very much from the non-inverter ones. Considering this over the total renovation cost and the need to hack and replace the piping if sometime down the road, you decides otherwise. tongue.gif

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post Nov 16 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(philipcs @ Nov 16 2011, 10:18 AM)
Thanks for replying, normally i set the temp to 23 or 24 degrees C. Since this is my 1st landed DSL House, therefore i would like to know from other forummer what is the usually placement for air con in ground floor and what is the needed horse power.

Thanks again.
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For my case, I place the both the AC units at both ends of the living & dining.
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install air curtain tongue.gif


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post Nov 29 2011, 09:15 AM

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This is the comment that I received from Panasonic Malaysia pertaining to my inverter aircon.

"Please note that installing Panasonic wall mounted Inverter type of air conditioner [1.0hp – 2.5hp using R410A as refrigerant] requires a minimum of 0.6mm thickness of copper piping and indoor and outdoor units must be connected with 4 wires (which are live, neutral, communication and earth wires). "

Hope this helps...

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