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post Jun 22 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(michaellks @ Jun 22 2012, 04:00 PM)
Mitsubishi has 2 different brands for airconds.
1. Mitsubishi Electric (Mr Slim)
2. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI)

According to the sales man, in Malaysia, these 2 brands are competing against each other although back in Japan, they are under the same parent company.
I'm planning to go for MHI's Deluxe series model as recommended by their sales personnel. Under MHI there are Standard, Deluxe and Inverter series.
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Reason I go for MHI is the 3D air and powerful fan (for 2HP it could blow up to 12 meters away).
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I had been googling everywhere and I could not find any local site for MHI. Do I have to buy it thru those electrical shops?.. If in Subang, which would you sifu's recommend, pls?..
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post Jun 22 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(kayage @ Jun 22 2012, 04:59 PM)
I had been googling everywhere and I could not find any local site for MHI. Do I have to buy it thru those electrical shops?.. If in Subang, which would you sifu's recommend, pls?..
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There is no local site for MHI. I got the Malaysian contact from their Japan site. Contact TRIO ELECTRIC & AUTOMATION(M) SDN.BHD (Phone: 60-3-8060-9557
Telefax: 60-3-8060-7991) to locate your local dealer. They (TRIO) don't sell to end-user directly.

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post Jun 23 2012, 11:51 AM

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i've settled myself with mitsubishi mr slim 2.0 model GF18 for my living room. yet to install. headache with small tolerance to put up plaster ceiling now sad.gif

heard that mitsubishi heavy industries will be more noisy..dunno how true..
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post Jun 23 2012, 04:56 PM

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Anyone know what type of gas does non-Invertor Panasonic air cond uses?

http://www.panasonic.com.my/wps/portal/hom...deluxe/CSC28NKH

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post Jun 24 2012, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
Anyone know what type of gas does non-Invertor Panasonic air cond uses?

http://www.panasonic.com.my/wps/portal/hom...deluxe/CSC28NKH
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All Pana non-inverter AC using R22. Inverter using R410a.

Inverter - S and PS Series
Non-Inverter - C and PC series
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post Jun 24 2012, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 24 2012, 01:41 AM)
All Pana non-inverter AC using R22. Inverter using R410a.

Inverter - S and PS Series
Non-Inverter - C and PC series
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Thanks.
Aren't R22 going to be phased out soon?

You know what's the different between non-inverter York "L" and "J" series? Which is better?


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post Jun 24 2012, 10:01 AM

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I think the non inverter got two version one with ion another without ion. Get the ion, according to the saddles person is more reliable than the non ion, cause is newer design.
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post Jun 24 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 24 2012, 06:48 AM)
Thanks.
Aren't R22 going to be phased out soon?

You know what's the different between non-inverter York "L" and "J" series? Which is better?
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R22 is going to phase out soon. 2020 if I am not mistaken. New manufactured unit after 2020 will not use R22. Right now, if I am not mistaken, there is no more new/ virgin R22 manufactured from 2012. All that they have in the market is Reclaimed R22.

L series York is just like M series. M series is with ioniser. L series is without. Spec between the 2 is the same. J series is with another kind of ioniser. Do not know the ioniser difference between J and M. Do not know which one is the newer model. J first, K, L, M?

M's spec looks better with lower power input hence better EER. I just got myself a M.
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post Jun 24 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 24 2012, 05:25 PM)
R22 is going to phase out soon. 2020 if I am not mistaken. New manufactured unit after 2020 will not use R22. Right now, if I am not mistaken, there is no more new/ virgin R22 manufactured from 2012. All that they have in the market is Reclaimed R22.

L series York is just like M series. M series is with ioniser. L series is without. Spec between the 2 is the same. J series is with another kind of ioniser. Do not know the ioniser difference between J and M. Do not know which one is the newer model. J first, K, L, M?

M's spec looks better with lower power input hence better EER. I just got myself a M.
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Thanks. I was told L is the latest but it's not prominently displayed at York website.

I understand Daikin took over York so I am hoping for some York range that is a clone of Daikin. Someone told me it's L and others told me it is J. I am confused. Furthermore, I didn't even know there is a M series. Anything more you can tell me?

As for ionizer, I dislike them.



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post Jun 24 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 24 2012, 06:17 PM)
Thanks. I was told L is the latest but it's not prominently displayed at York website.

I understand Daikin took over York so I am hoping for some York range that is a clone of Daikin. Someone told me it's L and others told me it is J. I am confused. Furthermore, I didn't even know there is a M series. Anything more you can tell me?

As for ionizer, I dislike them.
It seems the L and M are the same except the M got Plasma
http://www.york.com.my/TM-YWMLM-1111-A.pdf
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There is no more other info that I can provide. Try also to venture around for brands.
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post Jun 25 2012, 02:12 AM

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Seems like there is no perfect and the best aircond....seems like depending on one's luck and the technician when they are installing it....i already bought the panasonic 1.0 HP deluxe econavi non inverter series... fingers crossed hope everything is fine...
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post Jun 25 2012, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 24 2012, 05:25 PM)
R22 is going to phase out soon. 2020 if I am not mistaken. New manufactured unit after 2020 will not use R22. Right now, if I am not mistaken, there is no more new/ virgin R22 manufactured from 2012. All that they have in the market is Reclaimed R22.

L series York is just like M series. M series is with ioniser. L series is without. Spec between the 2 is the same. J series is with another kind of ioniser. Do not know the ioniser difference between J and M. Do not know which one is the newer model. J first, K, L, M?

M's spec looks better with lower power input hence better EER. I just got myself a M.
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You mean to say M spec is better than J spec? I checked and they look identical?





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post Jun 25 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 06:25 AM)
You mean to say M spec is better than J spec? I checked and they look identical?
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The last time I looked, M is better than J. No? Spec includes power input, capacity, Amp
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post Jun 25 2012, 08:34 AM

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When I choosing York time (last year), legend explain and show me the ion and non ion version. The two physical outlook is difference. I told himYork make lots of noise in my room. He agreed and point out the ion version is quieter, cheaper than most model and for living room is not to bad. That is the reason I have York in my living room now.

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post Jun 25 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 25 2012, 08:34 AM)
When I choosing York time (last year), legend explain and show me the ion and non ion version. The two physical outlook is difference.  I told himYork make lots of noise in my room. He agreed and point out the ion version is quieter, cheaper than most model and for living room is not to bad. That is the reason I have York in my living room now.
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The one with ion is with another layer of silver/ white/ grey glass like material on panel? That is M series. The one with the slit on the panel is J or L.
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 25 2012, 08:34 AM)
When I choosing York time (last year), legend explain and show me the ion and non ion version. The two physical outlook is difference.  I told himYork make lots of noise in my room. He agreed and point out the ion version is quieter, cheaper than most model and for living room is not to bad. That is the reason I have York in my living room now.
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I don't under the rationale for that. If L and M are basically the same except the ion version has an extra 'thing' to create the ions. Since both L & M uses same compressor and motor etc, they should have similar level of noise.


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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 25 2012, 08:29 AM)
The last time I looked, M is better than J. No? Spec includes power input, capacity, Amp
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I don't quite understand those thing. I only looked at power usage and EEF and they seems the same for the 24000btu model. Hence asking.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM)
I don't under the rationale for that. If L and M are basically the same except the ion version has an extra 'thing' to create the ions. Since both L & M uses same compressor and motor etc, they should have similar level of noise.    I 
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My noise level is the blower section, and what I mean on the physical blower unit is difference. The non ion i saw is same version design as my old room York.

Also I did not mention model as I don't know the model. The non ion model now could have change.
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM)
I don't under the rationale for that. If L and M are basically the same except the ion version has an extra 'thing' to create the ions. Since both L & M uses same compressor and motor etc, they should have similar level of noise.


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I don't quite understand those thing. I only looked at power usage and EEF and they seems the same for the 24000btu model. Hence asking.
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I believe she is talking about J and M series? I am not sure.

It is the same for unit with 24000 btu/h. But for others, it is not the same. M series has more capacity variation across its range. Not sure how L is different from J.
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 25 2012, 09:41 AM)
I believe she is talking about J and M series? I am not sure.

It is the same for unit with 24000 btu/h. But for others, it is not the same. M series has more capacity variation across its range. Not sure how L is different from J.
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I have looked at the EER & wattage for the L, J and M of the 24000btu model. They are all the same. I makes me wonder may be they all use same compressor. Only different is some has ionizer or bacteria killing gadget etc on the blower unit or one of those fancy stuffs.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:43 AM)
I have looked at the EER & wattage for the L, J and M of the 24000btu model. They are all the same. I makes me wonder may be they all use same compressor. Only different is some has ionizer or bacteria killing gadget etc on the blower unit or one of those fancy stuffs.
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I do not know the interior parts.

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