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post Jul 26 2008, 03:02 AM, updated 16y ago

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Nowadays, there are so many brand to choose for washing machine... rclxub.gif
e.g. Philips, Diamond, Amway, Panasonic, Pensonic

Which brand do you recommend?
Preferably a durable and long lasting fridge... oh yeah, and also affordable...

Let's discuss...

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post Jul 27 2008, 08:59 AM

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washing machine or water filter?
if water filter i use rx water. damn good for me. water taste really nice.
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post Jul 27 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(basdo @ Jul 27 2008, 08:59 AM)
washing machine or water filter?
if water filter i use rx water. damn good for me. water taste really nice.
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rx water ??? blink.gif

Any idea where I can check out the rx water..
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post Jul 29 2008, 10:17 AM

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I would recommend amway e-spring.

Why eSpring?

No other water treatment system compares to the eSpring Water Treatment System.

The eSpring Water Treatment System is truly the first of its kind in many respects. It is:

* the first in-home system to combine a patented carbon-block filter with ultraviolet light and an electronic monitoring system.
* the only system certified to effectively remove lead and more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants, including trihalomethanes (THMs), which can be a by-product of municipal water treatment systems that use chlorine.
* certified by NSF International for the reduction of more contaminants than any other UV carbon based system.
* the first system in the world to meet three internationally recognized water quality standards, NSF International Standards 42, 53 and 55.
* the first system to use wireless inductive coupling technology to increase safety and reliability.


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post Jul 29 2008, 02:21 PM

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i am using diamond, but the small one you put below/next to your sink
costs about rm500 at hsl.
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post Jul 29 2008, 03:35 PM

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I'm using something like this:-

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But after that I still boil in kettle...

There is no way I'm drinking raw water even if filtered tongue.gif by panasonic, diamond, amway or any other brand for that matter.
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post Jul 30 2008, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Jul 29 2008, 10:17 AM)
I would recommend amway e-spring.

Why eSpring?

No other water treatment system compares to the eSpring Water Treatment System.

The eSpring Water Treatment System is truly the first of its kind in many respects. It is:

    * the first in-home system to combine a patented carbon-block filter with ultraviolet light and an electronic monitoring system.
    * the only system certified to effectively remove lead and more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants, including trihalomethanes (THMs), which can be a by-product of municipal water treatment systems that use chlorine.
    * certified by NSF International for the reduction of more contaminants than any other UV carbon based system.
    * the first system in the world to meet three internationally recognized water quality standards, NSF International Standards 42, 53 and 55.
    * the first system to use wireless inductive coupling technology to increase safety and reliability.
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My house is currently using the Amway treatment water system. I am not sure whether it is your mentioned e-spring system but it has also a combination of carbon block filter, ultraviolet light with an electronic monitoring system. No offence but their lifespan based on the monitoring system is very short.

There are only 2 peoples including me staying in the house. The water usage is very little but the lifespan of the carbon filter and ultraviolet light is about 6 months. Each time u change it will cost you a bomb especially the ultraviolet light. If I remember correctly, it is about 300++ for the replacement. cry.gif

So now I din bother to change it. I still used the filtered water but I will just boil it again.
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post Dec 18 2008, 12:07 PM

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now i'm looking for water filter....

water supplied to my house seems not that clean...
afraid to use or boil it for drinking water
some more for my baby's milk mixture....

currently keep buying mineral water 5.5 litre for drinking purpose...
but till when?

plez advise...
i'm planning to get one for the whole house...
to ensure clean water for daily usage.....
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QUOTE(myhat @ Dec 18 2008, 12:07 PM)
now i'm looking for water filter....

water supplied to my house seems not that clean...
afraid to use or boil it for drinking water
some more for my baby's milk mixture....

currently keep buying mineral water 5.5 litre for drinking purpose...
but till when?

plez advise...
i'm planning to get one for the whole house...
to ensure clean water for daily usage.....
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For water filter meant for drinking, I use Philips water purifier.. and it also comes with UV technology...
Had been using for few months and its very still good...

As for the water filter for the whole house, we need more input from other forumer...

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post Dec 18 2008, 03:38 PM

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any water filter can put bottom of the sink one? most of them i see have to put counter top
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post Dec 18 2008, 04:08 PM

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i think that one u can adjust....
or perhaps still depends on the structure of that water filter....

i saw my neighbour install a water filter last time...
got free from lucky draw (so lucky...dunno what brand)...
its suitable to be put on the top of sink as well as down under the counter top....
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post Dec 18 2008, 05:38 PM

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How about Bacfree for the whole house?
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post Dec 18 2008, 06:12 PM

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am staying in condo, i dun think i need a main filter 1st. the indoor filter at the sink for drinking n cooking is priority
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post Dec 20 2008, 04:42 PM

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I'm using RX-Water Filter, but when I try to buy a new cartridge, it cost :

1) Cartridge 1 and 2 (1-2 year) - Rm 298
2) Cartridge 3 (2 year) - Rm 275
3) Cartridge 4 (3 years) - Rm 4++ something

Damn expensive .. so, consider the cartridge replacement too in the future ..

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post Dec 27 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(myhat @ Dec 18 2008, 12:07 PM)
now i'm looking for water filter....

water supplied to my house seems not that clean...
afraid to use or boil it for drinking water
some more for my baby's milk mixture....

currently keep buying mineral water 5.5 litre for drinking purpose...
but till when?

plez advise...
i'm planning to get one for the whole house...
to ensure clean water for daily usage.....
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I can recommend you eSpring Water Treatment.
I has bought it on 3rd December 08.
My whole family are using eSpring water for drinking and face washing.
The installation and dismatle is really quite simple, as well as changing filter, it only takes 3-5 mins.
You can even remove it and install to other place without any problem.

I have show it to my friends and they claim that eSpring water is really good taste.
One of my friends said that eSpring water really different, more more better than TES** mineral water.

You can visit http://www.espring.com.
If you like to know more about eSpring, please contact me and I will show you demo and let you try eSpring water.
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post Dec 28 2008, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(ken_chong @ Dec 27 2008, 02:58 PM)
I can recommend you eSpring Water Treatment.
I has bought it on 3rd December 08.
My whole family are using eSpring water for drinking and face washing.
The installation and dismatle is really quite simple, as well as changing filter, it only takes 3-5 mins.
You can even remove it and install to other place without any problem.

I have show it to my friends and they claim that eSpring water is really good taste.
One of my friends said that eSpring water really different, more more better than TES** mineral water.

You can visit http://www.espring.com.
If you like to know more about eSpring, please contact me and I will show you demo and let you try eSpring water.
=== caswin_chong@hotmail.com ===

Regards,
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from Kuala Lumpur
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hmm i didn't listen to this brand before. it's new brand?
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usually i buy panasonic... dont need so good brand.. as long can filter out particles n bacteria can d.
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QUOTE(Clareen @ Dec 28 2008, 11:48 AM)
hmm i didn't listen to this brand before. it's new brand?
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eSpring = Amway.
ive seen the demo for eSpring and the Atmosphere(air purifier) before. You can check it out at youtube. My friend is selling it.

and keep it in mind, the price is very different than other normal brands. wink.gif

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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Dec 29 2008, 12:00 PM)
eSpring = Amway.
ive seen the demo for eSpring and the Atmosphere(air purifier) before.  You can check it out at youtube. My friend is selling it.

and keep it in mind, the price is very different than other normal brands.  wink.gif
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but i heard amway one very expensive.
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QUOTE(Clareen @ Dec 29 2008, 03:13 PM)
but i heard amway one very expensive.
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good things are not cheap, we all know that.
There must be a reason why that water filter system cost that much.
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Hi guys ...i m recently looking around for water filter (excluding RO water) as well, the following is my personal findings & Ratings for those commonly heard in the market:-

1) E-spring - the only filter system in Malysia CERTIFIED by NSF 42, 53 & 55 std (bear in mind is not only certified conform to NSF std) - beware alot of the products playing with this wording infact many of the local products indicated "conform to NSF std" only. Why? cause i believe it is not easy to get & maintain their certification- http://www.nsf.org/consumer/about_NSF/cert_benefits.asp
Price ard RM3,000 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 500/yrs (correct me if i m wrong)

2) Philips WP3890/2 (NEW)- CERTIFIED by WQA conform to NSF 42, 53 & 55 std (this machine is tested in WQA of US according to NSF std only- check it out what they had been certified in WQA)- http://www.wqa.org- Price ard RM1,400 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 250/yrs @ RM125 per filter /6months/ 3000 litres

3) Aquasana - Tested/ Certified by "State of California Department of Health Services" which conform to NSF 42, 53 only, Price ard RM1,000 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 650/yrs/ 2 sets of filters- local seller claim the filter can last for 1 year but pls be careful & check the US website 1st, it is recommended to change the filter set every 6mths or 500gallons whichever come 1st in order to prevent bacteria growth...

3) Diamond- CERTIFIED by WQA conform to NSF 42 (remove odor, chlorine, etc) & 53 but the "reduction claim" certified is on the Turbidity ONLY- check it out! VOC, lead, bacteria, virus reduction not being tested at all? Price RM1500? unsure ..too many promotion!!!

4) Nesh, Cosway-Hexagon, Pensonic, UE-tec, Dr.Sukida, RX water - No certification being published on their website or tested by any reputable lab/ even local lab! some of them have many awards...means what? dun u think that a lab certification is a lot more meaningful & important? or they expect us to send those water to the local lab & test it out ourself? it will cost u a bomb man!!! We don't know what they claimed in their brochure/website about the goodness of their system/ water quality is true or not..this is all about branding their products!!! even a doctor need ur blood test report to tell u ur health condition.. dun they need a water testing report to prove to us their water is safe to consume?

I m not a MLM member or salesman & i m still using those Cheapo type selling at TESCO/ JUSCO twin filter with 1 ceramic & 1 carbon filter cost u less that RM100.. i have been drinking this water directly thru this filter w/o boiling since 2005... i m still alive , feel like wana upgrade to a better 1.
As a result, my best bet is on the Philips filter which is more affordable, cheaper maintenance on replacement filter catridge (2 sets/ yrs & the UV light bulb can last for 7 years, certified & tested by WQA, a product by a lot lot more trusted/ reputable/ old brands.

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post Jan 15 2009, 11:52 AM

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There are ONLY two kinds of water filters that can get rid of dissolved heavy metal like LEADS, Mercury and cadmium.... One is RO Filter. The other is Brita water filter. Dissolved heavy metal cannot be get rid off by boiling.

RO Filter is very cheap in USA. It is about USD $200 only. But, it is HARD to bring into Malaysia due to power and plumbing.

http://www.brita.com/us/

Brita Water Filter is a water pitcher or fit in a water faucet. It is ONLY USD $30. The cartridge is ONLY USD $10 each. You need about 4 per year for typical family. There is an Australian brand selling in Ace hardware in Mid-Valley. I do not know whether it is as good.

I use Brita water filter plus boiling my water.

For drinking water, the best choice is if you get someone to buy Brita water pitcher for you in USA and bring in for you.

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Hexagon water filter from cosway.
it has certifications as well from chemical and US scientist. You just need to read the booklet that comes in it.
at least i trust them cause they do not hang poster like diamond and other brands at roadside.
Buy 1 free 1. hahaha. where got quality product sell at roadside??? lol!

Hexagon
rm699 if member and pay by cash.
rm1300 if pay by credit card or non member.

been using it for 3 years since i move to my new house.
once the rubber was leaking. called cosway, the guy came over the next day. replace all the parts. best part is that he did not charge me anything.

he said it's because still under warranty. then only i know it's 5 years warranty free for all parts. after 5 years. rm50 per service.

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Don't be fool by Cosway Hexagon water... juz investigate their products and my findings are:-
i) NSF, WQA and alot of logo being published in 1 page (bottom) of their website http://www.ecosway.com/ecosway/SuperSelect.../hexagon_06.jsp & the logo images look blur. is that copy & paste from some where?
ii) The funny thing that i found is the whole catalogue/ product description nvr mentioned about the CERTIFICATION status, Why? are they so humble or what? i believe it's not cheap and easy to get all this body to certify their product.
iii) The worst thing is i found out that NSF denied their claimed read this
http://www.nsf.org/regulatory/newsroom/cea.asp
Anyway i cant say that this water system is not work at all but without all the proved of the efficiency why dun we buy a tesco/jusco type DIY filter. but Hexagon water is comparatively cheap as compare to others like diamond, nesh, etc. which i think they all are using a similar filtration system- Ceramic-Carbon-KDF.

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how about RO water maker like Rain maker??? It boils water and catches the steam and then condense back into water. I think that's the only way to get pure water. Been using it for a year already, no prob
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yup...RO water is very pure and very safe to drink...
however, it's doesn't contain minerals which our body needs...
fyi, s'pore gov prohibit RO water is their schools as it will affect the growth of kids....
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i'm using Diamond Antibac, no need change filter,
just clean the ceramic filter every mth will do, after 1 yr.. get a new one.. only RM400 mah

RO is the best but expensive, we can always drink a glass of 100plus, milo, milk, etc for the minerals intake


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QUOTE(fbs @ Feb 11 2009, 03:33 PM)
yup...RO water is very pure and very safe to drink...
however, it's doesn't contain minerals which our body needs...
fyi, s'pore gov prohibit RO water is their schools as it will affect the growth of kids....
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QUOTE(cherasbabe @ Feb 15 2009, 11:09 AM)
i'm using Diamond Antibac, no need change filter,
just clean the ceramic filter every mth will do, after 1 yr.. get a new one.. only RM400 mah

RO is the best but expensive, we can always drink a glass of 100plus, milo, milk, etc for the minerals intake
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You buy expensive few K of water filter system to get rid of those mineral, then take 100 plus to replace those mineral?
100 plus water may just use normal filtered tap water only. biggrin.gif
So at one hand, you spend few thousand to get rid of it, on the other hand, your replace it with something origin you get rid of it from another source. biggrin.gif
No offence.

Normal filtered water is safe to drink as well, not something like RO water is very safe to drink compared to normal filtered water.

I don't think we need super duper clean purifying water (until no mineral at all) for our body, instead too 'clean' water might not good for our body naturally.

RO is not something is the best, it is just another type of water. Long term with RO water might be bad as well.

My opinion only.


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cherasbabe,

I think Diamond must be something wrong ???? One ceramic filter cost u RM400??? diamond boss must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!!
Ceramic filter is not an exp filter, the most pioneer & reputable ceramic filter Doutlon only selling their filter around RM30-80!!! hahahahhaaa......
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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Feb 15 2009, 10:22 PM)
cherasbabe,

I think Diamond must be something wrong ???? One ceramic filter cost u RM400??? diamond boss must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!!
Ceramic filter is not an exp filter, the most pioneer & reputable ceramic filter Doutlon only selling their filter around RM30-80!!! hahahahhaaa......
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Just some research that i found in the net smile.gif

http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=19682

Diamond might be a scam shocking.gif
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Yar , Diamond is Expensive , & Also Nesh ... Scam ??... Dunno much about that , All i know is their Marketing way is No Different from any other Direct Selling / Multi Level Marketing company.....

Btw , ANY advise on Any Not SO Expensive Water Filter / Water Purifier n the Market ???... Something which is Not too expensive.... Something Below RM 300 - RM 400 like that lar , Gor ar ? For usage in the Kitchen for Condo or Apartment ..... biggrin.gif

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the whole set is RM400, ceramic filter alone is about RM30 if not mistaken


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QUOTE(cherasbabe @ Feb 16 2009, 02:16 PM)
the whole set is RM400, ceramic filter alone is about RM30 if not mistaken
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Wat Brand is This ??.. Wat Model ??...Thanks... smile.gif
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I heard amway one is ok also, think to get that if i move new house... biggrin.gif
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Myth about ro water. tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/974682
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I was looking a water filter too...after reading so many comments, i need Phillips is the most value for money water filter...anyone know where to get it?
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I would like to share my experience of using a water filter for drinking and cooking for 5 years.

Poke open its cover last month and shocked to see some growth in the filter itself!!! cry.gif

All the while we have been drinking contaminated water rupa-rupanya! icon_question.gif

Well it was my own mistake not to change the filters according to their schedule.....but hey.....I tried but somehow when I got to know how much more I need to fork out for the filter replacement.....I just said to myself....tak apalah....lain kali boleh buat.... whistling.gif

Anyway....I came to conclusion that buying a water filter system is similar to acquiring a photocopier for the office....it needs excellent support service in order for it to perform as it should. That's how I came across Coway water filter at www.mycoway.net

The good thing is it's not just water filter, but also a water dispenser for hot, room and cold temperature. Some more it's having digital interface which makes it kind of cool with LED lighting.

Unlike other brands that sell almost every type of products including water filter that could be manufactured in China which they then put on their logo stickers, Coway do the R&D and manufacture themselves in Korea.

I cost me just RM110 per month and I need not worry about quality of the filtered water anymore. Coway's service team will come for service every 2 months....sedar-sedar saja diorang call to set appointment. thumbup.gif



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The Coway Petit fits just nice in between other appliances in my kitchen.
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Ain't it too expensive to rent a water dispenser for a drinking water? RM110/mth, you must be very kaya.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 18 2009, 10:46 AM)
Ain't it too expensive to rent a water dispenser for a drinking water? RM110/mth, you must be very kaya.
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I'm not kaya to buy RM4K-5K water filter that still need $$$$ to replace its filters...that's why I go for rental.....for just RM110 per month (auto charge to my credit card), I need not worry a thing.....in fact I guess Coway must be so worried that I might shift house and ran away with their asset brows.gif

I have done a bit of survey myself before decided on Coway hmm.gif Like I said in previous post, water filter won't work as it should, if the filters not serviced where you would end up drinking contaminated water like me before. There's a good video at www.mycoway.net that explains how their filtering system works.

I realized that Coway has a dedicated team to do just servicing every 2 months where they will clean the device and change the filters as per schedule. Not only that, after each time the Coway personnel came to my house, I sure get phone call the next day to verify whether the personnel did the right thing, wearing uniform, look presentable etc. Last sekali dia akan tanya our own rating on the service received.




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QUOTE(pic3s @ Jan 15 2009, 07:14 PM)
Hexagon water filter from cosway.
it has certifications as well from chemical and US scientist. You just need to read the booklet that comes in it.
at least i trust them cause they do not hang poster like diamond and other brands at roadside.
Buy 1 free 1. hahaha. where got quality product sell at roadside??? lol!

Hexagon
rm699 if member and pay by cash.
rm1300 if pay by credit card or non member.

been using it for 3 years since i move to my new house.
once the rubber was leaking. called cosway, the guy came over the next day. replace all the parts. best part is that he did not charge me anything.

he said it's because still under warranty. then only i know it's 5 years warranty free for all parts. after 5 years. rm50 per service.
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Few years back when i was the 1st batch that use these so call hexagon water filter, so many problem comes up, leakage always,so many round until i lost count. One day I couldnt bear with their lousy product anymore I ask my lawyer to sent them a letter of demand of full payment plus the damages for time wasted failure with I will pursuit legal action. Promptly after 2 weeks I receive a cheque from them. After that i swear this whole life I will use not their lousy water filter product.

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FYI: i am using this setup:

normal sediment filter (buy one size larger than recommended) - only sand! this traps dirst and particles. the single flow valve and two basic carbon filters to remove chlorine and chemicals etc. (change one filter every three months). single flow valve so the carbon cant leach in the sediment filter and encourage growth of bacteria and algae i dont want. this water is the main feed. for drinking add the panasonic filter catridge (dialysis filter type) that traps any bacteria and other elements. need only be changed annually at 1XX per replacement. the water i get from there i got tested: after 12 months still drinking water quality as per europe requirement. so this is very safe. carbon block is dirt cheap - 5 bucks per pop and the sediment filter can last forever its basically a small sewage system, easy to setup and save enough. no use for UV light and all when you store the water in a bottle afterwards. just keep in colored glass to reduce growth of bacteria etc. and dont keep for more than two days. no need to be over obsessed with the whole thing.

also: RO water is dangerous! without the minerals you can do serious harm to your body if you drink a large amount. reason is osmosis. cells want to be in an equilibrium with the surrounding liquids with respect to water. so now you add RO which has no salt. salt concentration in cell is too high. the cell cant release salt only can take in or remove water. so it will take in water... in extreme cases until cell bursts. stupid system - not only in singapore not recommend but plain illegal in europe.
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I'm not kaya to buy RM4K-5K water filter that still need $$$$ to replace its filters...that's why I go for rental.....for just RM110 per month (auto charge to my credit card), I need not worry a thing.....in fact I guess Coway must be so worried that I might shift house and ran away with their asset  brows.gif

I have done a bit of survey myself before decided on Coway  hmm.gif  Like I said in previous post, water filter won't work as it should, if the filters not serviced where you would end up drinking contaminated water like me before. There's a good video at www.mycoway.net that explains how their filtering system works.

I realized that Coway has a dedicated team to do just servicing every 2 months where they will clean the device and change the filters as per schedule. Not only that, after each time the Coway personnel came to my house, I sure get phone call the next day to verify whether the personnel did the right thing, wearing uniform, look presentable etc. Last sekali dia akan tanya our own rating on the service received.
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If in the house just me and my wife or one more kid, I will just buy the mineral water from market. RM110 can buy 110 bottle of 1.5l from tesco at the cost of RM1/bottle. If not mistaken tesco mineral water cost 99sen/botle. Divide a month would consume about 5,2l perday. That is enough for 3person. I guess mineral water would be better than those water filter. hmm.gif
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some data on cheap water filters i'm planning for my hot-shower:

3/4 inch inlet filter housing (rm25 each @ carrefour)
Polypropylene sendiment filter (free w/ filter housing) 5 micron
cto carbon block filter (less than rm10) 5 micron (pensonic's is certified by NSF? -> http://www.pensonic.com/pproducts-pp.htm?c...=health%20care)


more about microns frm wikipedia:
1 micron = 1 micrometer, symbol µm, (1/1000 millimeter)

ceramic filter = 1 micron

human hair is about 100 micron wide (0.1 millimeter)
Red blood cells are 7 micron in diameter

dust mite > 250 micron
HEPA air filter = 0.3 micron
Bacterial = 0.3 to 5 micron
virus = less than 0.45 micron
Nanobacteria = less than 0.2 micron

diameter of Carbon nanotube = 0.001 micron
width of protein α helix = 0.0005 micron
smallest molecule diatomic hydrogen (H2) = 0.000074 micron
radius of hydrogen atom = 0.000025 micron


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the whole set is RM400, ceramic filter alone is about RM30 if not mistaken
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want to ask which cosway water filter to choose, the RM600 which have few filter or RM300 recently advertised quite strongly in The Sun paper?
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QUOTE(li_ping @ Nov 5 2009, 04:45 PM)
Panasonic water filter will do smile.gif
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lol, i do prefer cosway products since have confidence in it
but only the RM300 one have only stacking filter like the one im using that I bought for RM35 in Giant
don't see much difference in it
so i just want someone's comment that have use it before
thank you for ur recommendation though

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I'm planning to get Amway's Espring table top water filter. It's about 570 USD on their official site, how much are they selling here in malaysia? any owners here?
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Any one knows a good water filter to be installed at home for cooking purpose? How much?

No need those big gigantic ones.
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Do you mean you no need master filer for your whole house? I still suggest you get the master filter which will cost u around 1K plus for normal sand filter. You will appreciate it when you did the backwash as the water really look like kopi O....
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Do you mean you no need master filer for your whole house? I still suggest you get the master filter which will cost u around 1K plus for normal sand filter. You will appreciate it when you did the backwash as the water really look like kopi O....
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One question we need to ask ourselves when buying a water filter system: Is it CERTIFIED be able to filter harmful materials in your water? If not, why buy even if it is cheap?
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i would say a stainless steal water filter around rm 1.1k would be sufficient. This is because most filters are made of fine sand, carbon, and etc. They are almost the same, therefore, you do not need to waste extra money for diamond and other expensive products.
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QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Nov 6 2009, 11:28 PM)
I'm planning to get Amway's Espring table top water filter. It's about 570 USD on their official site, how much are they selling here in malaysia? any owners here?
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i'm one amway espring owner...bot one about 1 month ago & installed at my in-laws house...got a trade in program with the old amway water treatment system II...got RM600 off...very happy with it...

i've just made payment for another set for my own home...

the price, if not mistaken, retails at RM4300 or something like that...but once you sign up as a distributor, you can buy for RM3200...distributor fee is RM80 and on top of that i heard they will give you back cash bonus...so actual price is like RM3000 or so...

i googled water filter and did some research before buying the first e-spring and it seemed, amways' espring is one of the best (if not the best) there is...i used the 2nd gen water filter before & it was great, but becos its so expensive i tried consider other brands...like i said, after googling and reading some info, i decided on e-spring.

also, i feels, this is water we consumes...we drinks this...so there shouldnt be any compromise...some filters may be cheap, like few hundred or less than RM100 but....just think..u dun buy this filter every year...the last filter lasted me about than 10years..along the way, yes filter needs replacements and they cost, but at the end, the cost is quite minimal compared to having cleaner water going into our systems...

btw, just to clarify, altho i signed up as Amway's distributor, i'm not pushing or selling their products...i only signed up cos of the e-spring...not interested in any of their MLM program or outings or anything like that...not looking for 'down line' or those sxxxx just sharing my thought here...






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in the end just get something that u have confident in and ask around first...water very important since our body is 70% water and its not something that u want to save on
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Dec 11 2009, 12:13 AM)
i'm one amway espring owner...bot one about 1 month ago & installed at my in-laws house...got a trade in program with the old amway water treatment system II...got RM600 off...very happy with it...

i've just made payment for another set for my own home...

the price, if not mistaken, retails at RM4300 or something like that...but once you sign up as a distributor, you can buy for RM3200...distributor fee is RM80 and on top of that i heard they will give you back cash bonus...so actual price is like RM3000 or so...

i googled water filter and did some research before buying the first e-spring and it seemed, amways' espring is one of the best (if not the best) there is...i used the 2nd gen water filter before & it was great, but becos its so expensive i tried consider other brands...like i said, after googling and reading some info, i decided on e-spring.

also, i feels, this is water we consumes...we drinks this...so there shouldnt be any compromise...some filters may be cheap, like few hundred or less than RM100 but....just think..u dun buy this filter every year...the last filter lasted me about than 10years..along the way, yes filter needs replacements and they cost, but at the end, the cost is quite minimal compared to having cleaner water going into our systems...

btw, just to clarify, altho i signed up as Amway's distributor, i'm not pushing or selling their products...i only signed up cos of the e-spring...not interested in any of their MLM program or outings or anything like that...not looking for 'down line' or those sxxxx just sharing my thought here...
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i googled espring and seems quite good. Another Cheaper alternative Aquaphor Crystal Eco.

Espring is 0.2 micron and using regular carbon block with UV light to kill bacteria.

Aquaphor Crystal Eco is 0.1 Micron hollow fibre membrane technology (can filter harmful bacteria), using CarbFibre Block Technology with Aqualen and Silver to neutralize bacteria. For more info drop by my showroom or check our online catalog
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for my dad's place, i installed Bac-Free 'rocket' water filter for the mains...the first time i back wash it, OMG!!!! cant believe all these whiles, we've been drinking those water!!!

if you can imagine, how the water is like, if you scoop out a cup of water, from a tank, which has been soaked with rusted metal for 15yrs...yea...that's exactly what came out from the back wash....and i back wash it every 2-3 days...

and SYABAS got the nuts to tell its consumer "Air daripada Syabas adalah bersih" my left nut...

ohh...from the specs, the bac-free rocket filters water to something like 0.01 micron (whatever tat means) and you need another filter for drinking that filters down to 0.001 micron or something like that...

so rocket alone is not good enough for drinking...but ok for shower & rest of the use...

the rocket is so far the best thing i've bot for the house i think...




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yeap, as i said a stainless steel filter like the rocket type is good enough, can filter til 5 micron, very good d. When you backwash, the water is as black as ur coffee, you will be shocked. However, you will need to be careful with the medium that the retailers are giving you, most of the cheap fibre type of filter will use local sand which are cheaper but not as fine as the imported ones. Ask what type of sand and medium they are giving to u b4 buying.

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Even though some filter claim that they can filter contaminants up to 0.01 micron, but it never mention how much is the capacity. I have seen reports some filter can filter 0.01 micron for the first 100 liters water, after that only managed to filter 1 micron for another 300 liters and subsequently as good as useless.

Therefore, it's important to buy a filter with documentation how much water it can filter and what is the quality of the last drop of water in that capacity.
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QUOTE(danlim1 @ Dec 13 2009, 10:47 AM)
Even though some filter claim that they can filter contaminants up to 0.01 micron, but it never mention how much is the capacity. I have seen reports some filter can filter 0.01 micron for the first 100 liters water, after that only managed to filter 1 micron for another 300 liters and subsequently as good as useless.

Therefore, it's important to buy a filter with documentation how much water it can filter and what is the quality of the last drop of water in that capacity.
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does any filter brand provide that kind of details?
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Anyone considers to buy Elken RO water filter system?

I have new set and want to let it goes at cheaper price. New set and in box.
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I thin COWAY is doing quite good recently.Product reasonably good and service is friendly. rclxms.gif
You can either purchase straight away or rent monthly RM100 and above...
After 2-3years, the unit is yours....
Anything during the rental period , they will take care of it and on top of that servicing/parts replacement is FOC ..thought its quite worth la RM100...just treat as if you are paying installment lo during this rental period..anyone using COWAY ??

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Elken RO water is way to go.

Using one, my sales person demonstrate once before.

Mix Milo + Kopi.. pour it onto the filer and water came out and taste as normal RO water.. been using for 3yrs.. so far so good.
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Anyone using cheap Joven water filter ?
Wonder y the filter head always leaking no matter how u fit it to your tap. If u hav any experience installing, pls share
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Anyone using cheap Joven water filter ?
Wonder y the filter head always leaking no matter how u fit it to your tap. If u hav any experience installing, pls share
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Have anyone use this brand of water filter system before, how reliable and how good is this - AQUA (Indoor) and WATEQ (outdoor unit).

They seems to have some promotion of 2 system - indoor and outdoor at a price of RM2288 now.

Check out their ads at this link.
http://www.fmtrd.com.my/index.php?option=c...id=26&Itemid=26

I am totally new to water filter system, and I know water in Klang Valley is totally kopi color.

Please advise anyone.....


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so which type of the water filter brand -philips or amway or diamond (that cettified/ conform to NFS bla bla) can filter those dirt, sand, from water but not make it RO due to i need the mineral for body needs?

or other alternative brand? oh, does RO good for old folks or conventional plain water instead?
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me also looking for water filter... i'm looking to use temporary for 3 yrs only...any brand to recommend?

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there are lot of water filter... but as i been told... RO water contains no mineral... so better find one filter out with mineral rather than RO... coz water did contain mineral that human body need...
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Anyone knows about bacfree water filter and kind of pricy too?
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QUOTE(alenac @ Apr 9 2010, 04:51 PM)
Anyone knows about bacfree water filter and kind of pricy too?
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alenac,

i did made phone call and talk to of of their sales rep...The outdoor filter-rocket looks type around 3700 and sink top filter (for drinking) around 750. So total up ~ 4500.
- Maintenance charge (FREE FOR LIFE)
- No sediment (sand) removal

All you need to do is backwash everyday. That all. Go to their website for further details. PM me if you want the sales contact details.

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Hi guys... i can recommend you all a great water filter.. eSpring[SIZE=7]

There are many water filtration systems in the market today & almost all claim to do a good job. But how does the customer know which of these claims are valid.
First of all, one of the most important things you need to be aware of is that tap water is absolutely poisonous for your health. In recent studies, it has proven that there are 140 different harmful chemicals in our water supply today.

Here only eSpring is the first using ultraviolet technogy which can destroys 99.99% bacteria & viruses. It is effectively reduces over 140 potential health effect contaminants.

eSpring
1) cleaner, clearer & better-testing water
2) healthier, bacfree
3) tested & certified by NSF
4) unique,advanced & leading tech
5) easy installation
6) easy maintenance


Anyone who are interested to getting more can pm me



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i think it is important to have a good outdoor filter to protect your tap fittings, then get a reliable indoor drinking filter to filter off harmful contaminants and bacteria. Aquaphor Crystal Eco is about RM 1k+ only and replacement cartridges are cheap as well.

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Feb 7 2009, 04:13 PM)
Don't be fool by Cosway Hexagon water... juz investigate their products and my findings are:-
  i) NSF, WQA and alot of logo being published in 1 page (bottom) of their website http://www.ecosway.com/ecosway/SuperSelect.../hexagon_06.jsp & the logo images look blur. is that copy & paste from some where?
  ii) The funny thing that i found is the whole catalogue/ product description nvr mentioned about the CERTIFICATION status, Why? are they so humble or what? i believe it's not cheap and easy to get all this body to certify their product.
  iii) The worst thing is i found out that NSF denied their claimed read this
http://www.nsf.org/regulatory/newsroom/cea.asp
  Anyway i cant say that this water system is not work at all but without all the proved of the efficiency why dun we buy a tesco/jusco type DIY filter. but Hexagon water is comparatively cheap as compare to others like diamond, nesh, etc. which i think they all are using a similar filtration system- Ceramic-Carbon-KDF.
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I want to buy a outdoor water filter, which brand is good?
2 brand in my mind, one is waterco and the other one is diamond.
What the other brand that you suggest?
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I want to buy a outdoor water filter, which brand is good?
2 brand in my mind, one is waterco and the other one is diamond.
What the other brand that you suggest?
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been using diamond outdoor filter and normal panasonic filter inside+boiling the water before drinking
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i'm using espring... annual maintenance bout 480...

technical wise i might not be strong in explainging but can drink direct really saves me a lot in the TNB bill...

do pm me if wanna know more bout it...
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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Apr 24 2010, 05:04 PM)
been using diamond outdoor filter and normal panasonic filter inside+boiling the water before drinking
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I am also looking to get a new outdoor water filter too.
Have been using the Waterco W300 for more then 8 years. Most tanks comes with a 10 years warranty. So, the tank is about to reach its life cycle. Recently was told that the sand needs to be replace. The original supplier of the Waterco then advice to trade in the Waterco and get one of their new filter system. He is now selling another brand of filter.

Anyone have experience changing their sand filter?
Should I change the sand or get a new filter?



BTW, found this interesting article.

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil...3910&sec=health

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ May 13 2010, 01:34 PM)
I am also looking to get a new outdoor water filter too.
Have been using the Waterco W300 for more then 8 years. Most tanks comes with a 10 years warranty. So, the tank is about to reach its life cycle. Recently was told that the sand needs to be replace. The original supplier of the Waterco then advice to trade in the Waterco and get one of their new filter system. He is now selling another brand of filter.

Anyone have experience changing their sand filter?
Should I change the sand or get a new filter?
BTW, found this interesting article.

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil...3910&sec=health
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Hi bro...if u looking for water filter, will you consider delcol this brand? Its top 3 in the market. I myself represent delcol, pricing and product u can always refer v me.

Normally FRP tank is 1 year warranty while stainless steel 5 year warranty. FYI just the body itself.

About the sand u need to change around 3-5 years depend on the water usage>

last 8 years water filter might expensive but nowadays, its only cost around 1-2k

Auto and manual different around rm200-300 only

u can opt for traditional water filter which we called it as rocket filter as its cheaper, 20 years ago lolx...

some of my catalog

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1418665&hl=


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I want to buy a outdoor water filter, which brand is good?
2 brand in my mind, one is waterco and the other one is diamond.
What the other brand that you suggest?
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Diamond are famous v indoor water filter only and because their name quite powerful in the market, the price are slightly over price then others.... Like u compare Compact and HP


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alenac,

i did made phone call and talk to of of their sales rep...The outdoor filter-rocket looks type around 3700 and sink top filter (for drinking) around 750. So total up ~ 4500.
- Maintenance charge (FREE FOR LIFE)
- No sediment (sand) removal

All you need to do is backwash everyday. That all. Go to their website for further details. PM me if you want the sales contact details.

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Rocket filter cost 4k =_= as usual bacfree are crazy v their price haha....

pm me if u looking for cheap filter ^^

as usual forum dont cheat ppl lolx

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Hi, i think the 1st post deserves to be change, [Home Appliances] Water Filter, for drinking water purpose (Household) + 1st post doesn't match at all shakehead.gif for someone 1st time reading here its confusing....

btw, speaking of water filter.....is it really compulsory? sweat.gif is they are way to test that our water is contaminated or u simply assume we need to use this when we see our water have yellowish kindda of color.. unsure.gif im in the process of buying a house, but water filter is not in the budget or plan...just don't want to foresee this as an escape issue in the future sweat.gif i've been staying in klang valley for like 10 years...4years study...6years renting house..but never use this filter things.... sweat.gif
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There is a way to test but u need to pay lolx...

If yellowish that time already too late...

water filter compulsory? its depend on u...if u google it...u will found out more
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guys... any one can recommend the cheapest water filter for outdoor unit?
i don't plan to use it for long...even if got any rental package is fine with me also....

where to get COWAY in penang?
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get a fibre filter if you wan it cheap. Ard rm 500+
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Anybody know how to securely connect the pipe to the water filter device as highlighted in red?
It seems the plastic connection is not securely tight after turning the connector.
And upon turn on the water with minimal pressure, it always cause the water to drip...

It's really irritating whenever doing a maintenance on the filter... mad.gif mad.gif

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coway is a good brand. they are very famous in korea now. almost all korean know coway.
my house now using petit which is quite convenient for me and energy saving also. coway purifier water is totally clean, they even filter those heavy metals. A recommended product. If wanna know more can PM me. smile.gif
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Anybody know how to securely connect the pipe to the water filter device as highlighted in red?
It seems the plastic connection is not securely tight after turning the connector.
And upon turn on the water with minimal pressure, it always cause the water to drip...

It's really irritating whenever doing a maintenance on the filter...  mad.gif  mad.gif

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I'm not sure what I'm looking at, but is your washer/gasket worn? You could change that.
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QUOTE(wdarke @ Jun 15 2010, 02:36 PM)
I'm not sure what I'm looking at, but is your washer/gasket worn? You could change that.
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If in the house just me and my wife or one more kid, I will just buy the mineral water from market. RM110 can buy 110 bottle of 1.5l from tesco at the cost of RM1/bottle. If not mistaken tesco mineral water cost 99sen/botle. Divide a month would consume about 5,2l perday. That is enough for 3person. I guess mineral water would be better than those water filter. hmm.gif
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Sorry to give comment, actually you like their service or the quality of the water filter from the system?
i think the most important point is the water that filter out from the water filter system right?
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Sorry to give comment, actually you like their service or the quality of the water filter from the system?
i think the most important point is the water that filter out from the water filter system right?
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Eh.. I don't understand your comment.

I just point out what can buy from rm110. Mineral water better of filter water better. rm4k-5k for a water filter is crazy.
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actually we dont need any water filter system. Water with bacteria can increase our immune system. Do u know, ppl in the 3rd world like india, they drink directly from water paip normally. Nothing happened to them. Some hav lived over 70 or 80 with that water. But for us, if we go there drink their water, even being boiled twice n filtered, u sure will get sick. Drink the water in hotel there also get sick. if u strong enough, go hospital. if u not strong enough, sure got chance to c gandhi~~

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QUOTE(WKWebsite @ Jul 21 2010, 11:36 PM)
actually we dont need any water filter system. Water with bacteria can increase our immune system. Do u know, ppl in the 3rd world like india, they drink directly from water paip normally. Nothing happened to them. Some hav lived over 70 or 80 with that water. But for us, if we go there drink their water, even being boiled twice n filtered, u sure will get sick. Drink the water in hotel there also get sick. if u strong enough, go hospital. if u not strong enough, sure got chance to c gandhi~~
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Eh.. I don't understand your comment.

I just point out what can buy from rm110. Mineral water better of filter water better. rm4k-5k for a water filter is crazy.
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+1 ... but sometime , we need some water for cooking purposes... u can gt those cheapo Rm100-200 water purifier if u cant afford RM1-2k filter . ntg wrong . smile.gif

i bought mineral water frm tesco too laugh.gif laugh.gif

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It is not the bacteria that is filter out. (For my water filter purpose)

I just want to filter out the rust, soil and the foreign particle that from the rust pipe and etc. You can see those thing from your normal filter.

The water filter is more bacteria accumulate than without filter. So I still boil the water even filter out the water. By the way I just use normal cheap water filter only.

I don't trust those crazy expensive filter which said can drink straight away after filter. If the filter is new, I can understand. But if been using for a while, I don't no how many million bacteria accumulate in there.
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I ve the anyway water filter which can last only half yrs. The casing is weak and the ultraviolet light don't last long. The casing cannot stand the pressure and burst. Flood my house. mad.gif Don't no how many time the agent come and repair.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 22 2010, 09:11 AM)
Bullshit.

I ve the anyway water filter which can last only half yrs. The casing is weak and the ultraviolet light don't last long. The casing cannot stand the pressure and burst. Flood my house. mad.gif Don't no how many time the agent come and repair.
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i been using amway water filter for more than 10yrs nothing happen also? i think u buy fake 'anyway water filter'
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jul 22 2010, 09:03 AM)
+1 ... but sometime , we need some water for cooking purposes... u can gt those cheapo Rm100-200 water purifier if u cant afford RM1-2k filter . ntg wrong . smile.gif

i bought mineral water frm tesco too laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I ve been drinking mineral water for over 14yrs. I mean 95% of water I drink for whole yrs is mineral water. Accept cooking and outside drinking.

That's why I don't buy those expensive filter. My water filter is just cost rm70 for the casing and rm12 for 3pcs filter. smile.gif


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i been using amway water filter for more than 10yrs nothing happen also? i think u buy fake 'anyway water filter'
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It is not the bacteria that is filter out. (For my water filter purpose)

I just want to filter out the rust, soil and the foreign particle that from the rust pipe and etc. You can see those thing from your normal filter.

The water filter is more bacteria accumulate than without filter. So I still boil the water even filter out the water. By the way I just use normal cheap water filter only.

I don't trust those crazy expensive filter which said can drink straight away after filter. If the filter is new, I can understand. But if been using for a while, I don't no how many million bacteria accumulate in there.
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Hi Ozak,

I like what you said on "...if the filter is new, I can understand. But if been using for a while, I don't no how many million bacteria accumulate in there."

I was having the same issue until I discovered Coway Water Purifier more than a year ago then the problem get resolved. Now, I need not worry a thing since the Coway's charming cleaning lady comes to do the servicing without fail every other month. The filters get changed strictly according to their schedule and on one occasion, a faulty sensor being replaced FOC since the entire machine is under full warranty (parts & labour) for 5 years.

To me, a water filter needs constant maintenance....unlike a TV (for example) where I can still watch without any degrading quality after five years although I've not done any servicing. But when it comes to water filter, the moment there is a lapse in changing of the filter as required, the water quality will not be the same anymore.

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QUOTE(sharifuddin @ Jul 22 2010, 09:26 AM)
Hi Ozak,

I like what you said on "...if the filter is new, I can understand. But if been using for a while, I don't no how many million bacteria accumulate in there."

I was having the same issue until I discovered Coway Water Purifier more than a year ago then the problem get resolved. Now, I need not worry a thing since the Coway's charming cleaning lady comes to do the servicing without fail every other month. The filters get changed strictly according to their schedule and on one occasion, a faulty sensor being replaced FOC since the entire machine is under full warranty (parts & labour) for 5 years.

To me, a water filter needs constant maintenance....unlike a TV (for example) where I can still watch without any degrading quality after five years although I've not done any servicing. But when it comes to water filter, the moment there is a lapse in changing of the filter as required, the water quality will not be the same anymore.

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Found very in-depth explanation about using RO technology at this website.

Go read it yourself.
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Should I get an indoor filter, or an outdoor filter? Or both?
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what abt cosway? anyone?
i am interested in their old system hexagon but now they only sell the new alkaline water system
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This is the best water filter in the world. This beats the gold water, diamond water, platinum water, ruby water etc as well as those hexagonal water, polygonal water etc. It is far superior to the Coway water filters, the Cosway filters, the Amway filters, the NoWay water filters, the Everywhichway water filters.

If you drink enough of the water from this water filter it can cure cancer, it can cure AIDS, you will never fall sick and best of all you can live till 150yrs old.

People who used this filter says it not only improved their health but also their luck. 99.99% of customers who bought this water filter has won the TOTO jackpot and become millionaires.

This water filter costs around RM250 in the shops or you can buy it from me at the special price of RM999.99 and I will throw in a free gift of a 8GB flash drive. Hurry! This offer lasts only for about 10 years or so.


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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Aug 31 2010, 02:34 AM)
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This is the best water filter in the world. This beats the gold water, diamond water, platinum water, ruby water etc as well as those hexagonal water, polygonal water etc. It is far superior to the Coway water filters, the Cosway filters, the Amway filters, the NoWay water filters, the Everywhichway water filters.

If you drink enough of the water from this water filter it can cure cancer, it can cure AIDS, you will never fall sick and best of all you can live till 150yrs old.

People who used this filter says it not only improved their health but also their luck. 99.99% of customers who bought this water filter has won the TOTO jackpot and become millionaires.

This water filter costs around RM250 in the shops or you can buy it from me at the special price of RM999.99 and I will throw in a free gift of a 8GB flash drive. Hurry! This offer lasts only for about 10 years or so.
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OT, I use the eSpring and its awesome!
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I use bio pure.

a bit pricey but fully satisfied. after sales service also very good.

the pre-filter I service by myself whenever I see it become a little bit rusty.I do this to prolong the efficency of other filters next to it.

before you buy their filter they will educate you and inform you everything you need to know regarding water and filter.

if you are stilll not yet convince you can attend a lecture and learn.


I backread some of the comment that mention about mineral in water and have the same thoughts before.

why remove the minerals in water? our body need minerals right?

the mineral in water might be inorganic and not good for body.

iron is mineral, present in rust. but would you drink water with rust?

calcium is mineral, present in chalk. but would you water with dissolved chalk?

bottom line, not all minerals in different forms are good and can absorbed by our body. same as bacteria, there are good and bad bacteria.


If you are not decided which filter to buy, I might help you educate yourself before you buy.

offcourse we dont want spend our hard earned money getting an expensive but low quality filter or buy a cheaper filter and dont perform as we expect.


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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Aug 31 2010, 02:34 AM)
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This is the best water filter in the world. This beats the gold water, diamond water, platinum water, ruby water etc as well as those hexagonal water, polygonal water etc. It is far superior to the Coway water filters, the Cosway filters, the Amway filters, the NoWay water filters, the Everywhichway water filters.

If you drink enough of the water from this water filter it can cure cancer, it can cure AIDS, you will never fall sick and best of all you can live till 150yrs old.

People who used this filter says it not only improved their health but also their luck. 99.99% of customers who bought this water filter has won the TOTO jackpot and become millionaires.

This water filter costs around RM250 in the shops or you can buy it from me at the special price of RM999.99 and I will throw in a free gift of a 8GB flash drive. Hurry! This offer lasts only for about 10 years or so.
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hi guys,

do they have a water filter that can be put inside the kitchen cabinet/under tabletop? meaning the filter will connect to the pipe on top of the table top.

if they do, can please let me know the brand and price.

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Aug 31 2010, 02:34 AM)
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This is the best water filter in the world. This beats the gold water, diamond water, platinum water, ruby water etc as well as those hexagonal water, polygonal water etc. It is far superior to the Coway water filters, the Cosway filters, the Amway filters, the NoWay water filters, the Everywhichway water filters.

If you drink enough of the water from this water filter it can cure cancer, it can cure AIDS, you will never fall sick and best of all you can live till 150yrs old.

People who used this filter says it not only improved their health but also their luck. 99.99% of customers who bought this water filter has won the TOTO jackpot and become millionaires.

This water filter costs around RM250 in the shops or you can buy it from me at the special price of RM999.99 and I will throw in a free gift of a 8GB flash drive. Hurry! This offer lasts only for about 10 years or so.
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i use mineral water from 18l bottle, cost me RM45 a month, in a year its only RM540. in five years its RM2700. Compare to whatever small commercial (which is never tru to the spec), its almost equal to the purchase cost, but u factor in maintenance, filters, these units can rake up to RM4-5k in 5 years.
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 6 2010, 10:45 PM)
i use mineral water from 18l bottle, cost me RM45 a month, in a year its only RM540. in five years its RM2700. Compare to whatever small commercial (which is never tru to the spec), its almost equal to the purchase cost, but u factor in maintenance, filters, these units can rake up to RM4-5k in 5 years.
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Agreed. I buy RO water for drinking and don't use any filter for the normal water.
Can I have the contact to buy the mineral water as I only can find RO water?
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Agreed. I buy RO water for drinking and don't use any filter for the normal water.
Can I have the contact to buy the mineral water as I only can find RO water?
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but, they using plastic bottle with code 1.
which is is not good to use many times (refill).

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is drinking RO water good? because it is acidic while our body got enough acid already. we should be drinking alkaline base water.
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is drinking RO water good? because it is acidic while our body got enough acid already. we should be drinking alkaline base water.
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I checked out some info on the bottles using PET and the RO water being more acidic. I guess the PET bottles could cause some problem but I'm not too worried about it. I'm not worried about the pH at all.

I actually chose bottled water since I'm most worried when buying the small water treatment system that it does not work as it should. For example when you have a water treatment plant, you will analyze the treated water regularly to see if the treatment system is still working as it should. For the small water treatment system this is not done, which is what I don't like.
Secondary reason was that the cost was about the same.

Somebody did mention the other day that I also didn't know what was going on inside the factory where they prepare the RO water, so that did raise a few flags. And when I was searching for info on the above potential problems I stumbled upon the low mineral content of RO water again which is a minus.

Before I started using RO water last time I tried to find bottled mineral water but couldn't. Anyway it seems there is some services like that now, so going to change to mineral water.
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this is regarding the plastic bottle.

plastic bottle code


btw, if u buy the RO water ... better get some info about the supplier bcoz some water only contains normal drinking water (filtered from tap/pipe water) not RO.

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Attached File  Mar_13___Brunei_Times___BioPure19.pdf ( 860.78k ) Number of downloads: 64


RO water actually is the best.
It contains only H2O

The top level water specialist, Mike R. Long also mentioned that R O water is the best
And R.O water get the gold seal S300 from WQA

Even all the coke, beer, medicine which need water also use RO water because it will not cause any
chemical reaction since it is purely H2O

Also, minerals you can get from others food or drinks.

I read from an article, mentioned that the calsium in 150 cups of water only equal to 100ml of milk.

So we should not get minerals using water.

You can refer to attachment for details.

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QUOTE(bob @ Sep 23 2010, 11:54 AM)
this is regarding the plastic bottle.

plastic bottle code
btw, if u buy the RO water ... better get some info about the supplier bcoz some water only contains normal drinking water (filtered from tap/pipe water) not RO.
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Attached File  Mar_13___Brunei_Times___BioPure19.pdf ( 860.78k ) Number of downloads: 64


RO water actually is the best.
It contains only H2O

The top level water specialist, Mike R. Long also mentioned that R O water is the best
And R.O water get the gold seal S300 from WQA

Even all the coke, beer, medicine which need water also use RO water because it will not cause any
chemical reaction since it is purely H2O

Also, minerals you can get from others food or drinks.

I read from an article, mentioned that the calsium in 150 cups of water only equal to 100ml of milk.

So we should not get minerals using water.

You can refer to attachment for details.

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I actually read a lot about this previously, the RO water sellers and mineral water sellers will have opposing articles. That's why I looked for an impartial source, in this case the WHO which published an article called "Health risks from drinking demineralised water": http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health...mineralized.pdf

Found one more: http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health...onsensusrep.pdf



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i'm wary on consuming distilled or RO water too..

http://www.snyderhealth.com/water_ionizers...osis_water.html

a lot more neuntral source can be found on the net..
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is there any water filter that has a tap open close built with it??

i've wrongly purchase a water tap that cannot use to extend/switch to water filter.

pls help.

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any1 use bacfree before? i was wondering how good is the BS-5 model unit which is placed under table top inside cabinet.....

i think the price is around 700++
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Anyone had any experience with GE water filter ? Is it realiable ?
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selling for rm1188 during homedec
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If anyone interested to know more about eSpring, PM me. Thanks.
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any water filter is fine i guess. however i had a fren tat told me Coway rental scheme is ridiculous. they say u rent for rm100 a month. for 2-3 years or something.

but the contract fine line there says that u will only own the product oni after 5-7 years or something like tat. can any1 justify tat?

any1 bought and still have their contract form with them? i also curious to see.
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is ur GE water filter for indoor or outdoor? how much was it?

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The water filter is for outdoor. I bought it for 1400 including installation. Free cleaning of house water tank.
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hi sonerin,

so they've installed the filter? do u use any filter for drinking purpose?
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I use the normal filter from panasonic as drinking water.
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The water filter is for outdoor. I bought it for 1400 including installation. Free cleaning of house water tank.
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Which model of GE outdoor filter u bought? Buy from myhomepalm in bandar puteri? U mean they also help you to clean the house water tank for free?
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The model i think is 1440. I buy from myhomepalm in Bandar Puteri. Yes they help me clean my house water tank for free.
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I checked but no such model.
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Sorry the number is 1044.
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hi sonerin,

i send an enquiry email to myhomepalm, and they reply.

POE unit which is currently promo is GE 0935 Manual @ RM1,288-00.

POE unit GE 1044 Autotrol @ RM2,888-00.
includes installation
includes 1 x tank wash
10 years warranty on vessel
3 years warranty on valve
Media change every 4 – 5 years once @ RM380-00 (model GE 0935), RM480-00 (model GE1044)

how come yours is RM 1,400 for GE 1044 model?
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Now that panasonic and philips has also come out with their own water filter with UV, how does this compare with Espring?
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QUOTE(vinothrao84 @ Oct 22 2010, 11:43 AM)
hi sonerin,

i send an enquiry email to myhomepalm, and they reply.

POE unit which is currently promo is GE 0935 Manual @ RM1,288-00.

POE unit GE 1044 Autotrol @ RM2,888-00.
includes installation
includes 1 x tank wash
10 years warranty on vessel
3 years warranty on valve
Media change every 4 – 5 years once @ RM380-00 (model GE 0935), RM480-00 (model GE1044)

how come yours is RM 1,400 for GE 1044 model?
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will it be there any different in terms of manual and auto wash? the price is huge by 100% for auto.
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yes mine I bought for manual back wash.
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do u guys think is worth to folk out the money for amway espring water filter system??
what do you think and why?

thanks
every professional opinion will be given much appreciated

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do u guys think is worth to folk out the money for amway espring water filter system??
what do you think and why?

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It is good but overpriced for what they do. I do think the philips UV water filter is more value for money. 3X cheaper and roughly the same features. If you really kiasu you can connect a normal panasonic water filter + the philips UV water filter. This way you replace the panasonic waterfilter more often rather than the more expensive philips water filter.


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is the philips unit still available in the market? i don't see it on philips website anymore.
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that doesn't sound very reassuring as you will still need to buy filter cartridges esp if it gets discontinued
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New models MAY still use the same cartridges. I know Panasonic's alkaline filter has a new model, but it's still using the same cartridge as the old one.
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QUOTE(vinothrao84 @ Oct 22 2010, 11:43 AM)
hi sonerin,

i send an enquiry email to myhomepalm, and they reply.

POE unit which is currently promo is GE 0935 Manual @ RM1,288-00.

POE unit GE 1044 Autotrol @ RM2,888-00.
includes installation
includes 1 x tank wash
10 years warranty on vessel
3 years warranty on valve
Media change every 4 – 5 years once @ RM380-00 (model GE 0935), RM480-00 (model GE1044)

how come yours is RM 1,400 for GE 1044 model?
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If someone is looking to install GE0935 please let me know
I got a product voucher of GE0935, prize won in lucky draw
I not use, willing to transfer, however my voucher not including installation!
Please check my post
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Oct 21 2010, 07:27 AM)
The model i think is 1440. I buy from myhomepalm in Bandar Puteri. Yes they help me clean my house water tank for free.
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Hi Sonerin, how's ur GE filter so far? Are you satisfy?

I'm currently looking at either :

1. trade in my old WaterCo to get a totally new Waterco MKII at RM1.3k

Or,

2. Consider GE1044 manual ...

Just wonder how's the water pressure in your house after installing the GE?



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I've been using the smaller GE sand filter, model 1035 for a few weeks now. Seems OK so far. Water pressure reduction with sand filter is very minimal, probably 5% or less. Get the manual valve, it's good enough. Just need to backwash about once a week, depending on usage and water quality in your area. If you find the backwash water to be not too dirty, you can opt for 2 weeks once.
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I plan to buy a new water filter. Read though the thread and the conclusion to me is Amway's e-spring is better than Elken's RO Bio Pure. It is because RO's water tend to be acidic which will be harmful to human. Although e-spring cannot identified good minerals or bad minerals, I think it is only a second issues. Any comment to these ? icon_question.gif
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very satisfied work done by www.myhomepalm.com, my house GE water filter is nicely installed and neat. Full thumb up for their professionalism

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Hi Sonerin, how's ur GE filter so far?  Are you satisfy?

I'm currently looking at either :

1.  trade in my old WaterCo to get a totally new Waterco MKII at RM1.3k

Or,

2.  Consider GE1044 manual ...

Just wonder how's the water pressure in your house after installing the GE?
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Water pressure is good. After 2 months of using this filter i am satisfied with it
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very satisfied work done by www.myhomepalm.com, my house GE water filter is nicely installed and neat. Full thumb up for their professionalism

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Any 1 use cosway indoor water filter? Pls share review if any...
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which 1?
This model?
http://www.coway.com/product/product_detai...tegoryOneCode=1
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 16 2011, 10:12 PM)
zhdilwane, u got sell indoor water filter for condo?

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Zheilwane,

is this Genie model good to use? i mean how's the results of the flitered water as compared to Petit?

i have a small kitchen.. and i need a water filter that is most space-efficient. Genie seems to fit my criteria better since it can even be installed under the sink, but not sure bout the results..

can you please advise? thanks
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Me have a outdoor filter and indoor filter. My concern is the direct sales guy from elken test my house water and the result similar to the following blog. Now I wonder does diamond, coway will it have the same result too?


Blog:
http://kynston.blogspot.com/2010/06/bio-pu...rification.html

My indoor filter look somthing like this:
http://www.m6.com.my/blog/wp-content/uploa...ater-filter.jpg
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 16 2011, 10:12 PM)
u sell coway P-071 also? PLease PM me the price
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Anyone use the brand named call crystal water? any good
http://www.crystalwater.com.my/waterfilter...ermalaysia.html

As I saw from New paper they offer RM899 on coming Perfect Living 2011 at PWTC next few days.

Please advise

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how about bacfree???
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I saw this message on the Waterco filter...
guess it apply to all local filter???

Please Note:

Micron W Series filters do not filter out chlorine. The local water authority adds a safe consumption level of chlorine to disinfect your water supply. The removal of chlorine may result in the proliferation of bacteria in your water tank.
Waterco recommends the use of a carbon-based water filter only at the ‘point-of-use’ e.g. kitchen sink.


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No..not all , at least i know GE claims their unit has carbon substance which help to eliminates certain percentage of chlorine..

So, to have chlorine or not to have...depends on individual's perception.. I would prefer to leave the chlorine alone in my tangki..
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Hi Maxguy,
Could you let me know the price of the GE filter that you have installed ?
It should be only one model, right ?
Thks !

Dear forumers,
Who has installed Puregen UF 2500 (outdoor water filter), I found in a blog that talk about this product is around RM1200 including installation (that was in 2010). It is using the hollow fiber filtering system. Would like who has come across this brand to share his / her experience, most important the current price if possible.

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Hi Maxguy,
Could you let me know the price of the GE filter that you have installed ?
It should be only one model, right ?
Thks !

Dear forumers,
Who has installed Puregen UF 2500 (outdoor water filter), I found in a blog that talk about this product is around RM1200 including installation (that was in 2010). It is using the hollow fiber filtering system. Would like who has come across this brand to share his / her experience, most important the current price if possible.
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Please dont use Puregen. I am using it and not going to shift it to my new house as this filter is lousy. Every morning i still can smell bad smell from the water even i have ask them to put in the carbon for me. Sand can go in the water tap and ask them to check a few times and still the same problem. I am thinking to get Aqua free outdoor filter for my new house. Anybody use it before?
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I'm using the espring for my drinking water, and for outdoor filter, i'm using Pentair, the filter was used in many countries, especially in White House, Starbucks etc. During the flooding happened in Thailand recently, the Thai government had been using more than 5 espring to filter the water for the victims.

Please bear in mind that don't ever drink RO water, it is only recommended for patient because RO water too clean, until it will washed out the minerals in our body, especially our calcium and causing many diseases.

If someone need more details, do PM me or call me at 0126647964. I will be willing to share.



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this is very good advice and any serious filter should work like this. we placed single way valve and two (2) carbon filters after the sediment filter to avoid contamination and eliminated the tank entirely = great water. if you take out the chlorine first then the water quality goes south if not consumed. esp. bad if you then put the stuff in a tank. might as well not filter at all.
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QUOTE(REEN YONG @ Mar 30 2011, 06:53 PM)
Please dont use Puregen. I am using it and not going to shift it to my new house as this filter is lousy. Every morning i still can smell bad smell from the water even i have ask them to put in the carbon for me. Sand can go  in the water tap and ask them to check a few times and still the same problem. I am thinking to get Aqua free outdoor filter for my new house. Anybody use it before?
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Hi Reen Yong,
Are you using the sand type filter system of Puregen or the ultra filtration type (hollow fibre) ?
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been using diamond filter outdoor type...
so far so good..
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been using diamond filter outdoor type...
so far so good..
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I think that UE---something sold by Jusco sounds reasonable as a POE (point of entry) filter - so that the washing machine gets clear water instead of white clothes turning yellowish-brown..

What does anyone thinks?
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bought NESH QOOZO in PWTC Perfect Livin fair today, quite attractive package I should say.... worth to buy.
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QUOTE(ccheng0085 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:29 PM)
bought NESH QOOZO in PWTC Perfect Livin fair today, quite attractive package I should say.... worth to buy.
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wats the package n price??
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Hi Reen Yong,
Are you using the sand type filter system of Puregen or the ultra filtration type (hollow fibre) ?
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Sand filter type. Really lousy. cry.gif
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Gosh....confused.

The Nxxx modal similar to Purexxx UF25xx, both using Superior <e,nrame Technology.
Cost different of RM700
or I should just get Perfect Steel?
http://www.mywaterpurifier.com/index.php?a...d&productId=334

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wats the package n price??
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Normal price -RM300, then if take filter change package for 3 years, can save additional RM400. I think it's ok because the technology quite advance. Imagine your hand with garlic smell, wash with the filtered water then the smell not obvious ady. Even if you wash with soup, u can still smell the garlic right? Since many says RO water cannot drink, boiled water not good, then i just want to find some filter which can drink directly. So far only Amwxx and NeXX come across my mind. Amwxx too expensive, so... take Nxxx lo... Tupperxxxx got new filter product, but not many tried. I think after few years when the feedback is ok then only can consider lo.

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bought NESH QOOZO in PWTC Perfect Livin fair today, quite attractive package I should say.... worth to buy.
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Did u survey the price outside before buying from perfect living? Not all items are cheap in fair, must really becareful.
My auntie bought something in fair then later went out to check the prices, got 10% extra cheaper....
Some of them just mark up the prices then give lots of discount, so consumers will assume they are getting a very good deal.

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looking for a filter too..

now everyone seems to have their own preference... hehe pening~
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Apr 2 2011, 07:58 AM)
Did u survey the price outside before buying from perfect living? Not all items are cheap in fair, must really becareful.
My auntie bought something in fair then later went out to check the prices, got 10% extra cheaper....
Some of them just mark up the prices then give lots of discount, so consumers will assume they are getting a very good deal.
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Agreed with you.

I was there yesterday and checking the price of one vacuum. The price is cheaper compared (RCP) with outside and the price tag in the fair was RM340. But when I ask what the best price you could give...it drop to RM 310 after checking the computer.

This same goes to another aircorn brand...the price is RCP, hence you have to ask is that a fair price or discounter...else you will pay higher...

Today or tomorrow I will go back again, as I have few items need to buy and have done some home work what the outside price could be...so if lower than get from them, else next round lol


Added on April 3, 2011, 12:08 pmAnyone try this Hydro One?

http://www.hydro1.com.my/index.html


Added on April 3, 2011, 12:08 pmAnyone try this Hydro One?

http://www.hydro1.com.my/index.html


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What is the recommendation for hot and cold water dispenser smile.gif
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I've found one Coway but looking for more alternative. Dunno got those that no need to pay for service maintenance after buying wan or not..
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i found this DIY method quite fascinating. look at the amount of dirt flushed out.

but unfortunately its huge! not suitable to apartment imo
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if anyone is looking for HOT, COLD & ROOM.. check this out..
good stuffs.. service is top priority!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry33522476
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I'm looking for water filter too. Yesterday was passing by NESH counter, looked at the Qoozo filter.

Sounds fantastic, tested the water, taste like mineral water, no smell. And got some kind of O3 technology, can clean the fruits and vege one. Like Okamizu or something like that.

The disadvantage is it's bloody expensive! 2k plus. I want to check out other filters. esp Amway coz I heard got UV for killing bacteria or something. But the water can wash the fruits clean or not?

Anybody can share their opinion? Or can advise me other filter please?
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Managed to buy the Philips WP3890 for RM699(after RM600 cashback) from Harvey Norman

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Go for Amway Espring. No regret. The only brand that is able to produce documentation about the contaminants it can filter out. No other brand does that.

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Go for Amway Espring. No regret. The only brand that is able to produce documentation about the contaminants it can filter out. No other brand does that.
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QUOTE(nickyrox @ Apr 9 2011, 04:57 PM)
if anyone is looking for HOT, COLD & ROOM..  check this out..
good stuffs.. service is top priority!

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I would recommend amway e-spring.

Why eSpring?

No other water treatment system compares to the eSpring Water Treatment System.

The eSpring Water Treatment System is truly the first of its kind in many respects. It is:

    * the first in-home system to combine a patented carbon-block filter with ultraviolet light and an electronic monitoring system.
    * the only system certified to effectively remove lead and more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants, including trihalomethanes (THMs), which can be a by-product of municipal water treatment systems that use chlorine.
    * certified by NSF International for the reduction of more contaminants than any other UV carbon based system.
    * the first system in the world to meet three internationally recognized water quality standards, NSF International Standards 42, 53 and 55.
    * the first system to use wireless inductive coupling technology to increase safety and reliability.
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and they give us 120 day money back guarantee somemore
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and they give us 120 day money back guarantee somemore
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this e-spring is outdoor or indoor unit? How much it cost?

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this e-spring is outdoor or indoor unit? How much it cost?
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Which is better? "Membrane Water Filter" or "Sand Filter"type?

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Hi all,

Hope this will help...Check tis out...
http://www.coway.com.my/ProductOverview.aspx?CID=1

South Korea's Woongjin Coway water purifiers

Filtration type : RO (Reverse Osmosis) with 0.0001 micron purified including heavy metals

If monthly rental, free every 2 months professional service as in korea, up to 5 years (meaning no need to worry parts). And after 5 years, it yours! If outright, free 1 years service too...

Girls Generation (SNSD) is now their models too! Gee Gee Gee


Cheers
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For those who are interested with alphamax, can consider PERFECT STEEL G2 Filter. If alphamax does not require changing the media, then i guess this filter could do the same as they are actually same as alphamax using micro Z, quick sand and fine sand.

***Sand & micro Z will need to be replaced around 3 years once.

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In general, DO NOT drink RO water. unless u have kidney failure, which then you have no choice but to drink RO water.

Read report from WHO on risks when drinking demineralized (RO) water.


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QUOTE(Serofax @ Jun 15 2011, 01:04 AM)
In general, DO NOT drink RO water. unless u have kidney failure, which then you have no choice but to drink RO water.

Read report from WHO on risks when drinking demineralized (RO) water.
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Hahaha...

Just because the RO doesn't have mineral, you ask people not to drink RO water?? What a joke...

If u want your drinking water that contains minerals which equal to 1 glass orange juice, you need to DRINK 30 GALLONS to get it!! As long as you eat vegetables or fruits, you can get back all the minerals!

And you know what, RO able to purified 0.0001 MICRON which filtering most harmful substances including heavy metals, cancer-causing substances! Which other filtration method won't able to do it!

Cheers.

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nope, im not joking, infact very serious. especially when i have close relatives n friends who have suffered the effects of drinking RO water long term (>8yrs).

why remove something which is beneficial to the body (considering on avg a person consumes 2.5L of water each day) ? imagine the amount of minerals lost.

fyi some minerals which are hard to be obtained from food and which can be easily obtained from drinking water.

judging by an avg msian's diet...i wonder how much vege and fruits we consume each day? 5 servings? not even close!! lol

"Which other filtration method won't able to do it!"

you obviously havent done your research smile.gif information on the internet is limitless, explore~.


RO filter mainly obtained through a compressed membrane filter in which if applied with high pressure would get damaged. Therefore most RO filter have a storage tank to store filtered water as the filtration process is very very slow. I have personally "saw" open all the filters in an RO unit and it was quite a discovery =D

i wont point my finger at anyone who have bought an RO filter, but just advice not to if have a choice. Reason is because Not many filters out there can effectively filter away most all contaminants while leaving the good stuff behind. Therefore the safest route would be RO.

But if one HAS the choice and knowledge on which is the best filter, why go for RO? get what i mean? smile.gif

sorry if i offended anyone (especially RO users). but im merely sharing the truth.
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This is an ongoing debate on pro and con of RO water. I was considering brands like Coway for my new kitchen but now leaning towards normal filter like 3M or Amway eSpring.


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QUOTE(ivn79 @ Jun 16 2011, 03:30 PM)
Hahaha...

Just because the RO doesn't have mineral, you ask people not to drink RO water?? What a joke...

If u want your drinking water that contains minerals which equal to 1 glass orange juice, you need to DRINK 30 GALLONS to get it!! As long as you eat vegetables or fruits, you can get back all the minerals!

And you know what, RO able to purified 0.0001 MICRON which filtering most harmful substances including heavy metals, cancer-causing substances! Which other filtration method won't able to do it!

Cheers.
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Why you want to drink that water till that microscopic clean? In longterm you don't have any antibody and immuine system to protect you. If you go third world country holiday or a few day inside jungle, can you survive with the river water?

Mineral is one of our diet and water is the main mineral supply. Take it out and you have to eat twice or thrice of your food. Why I have to do that?

By the way, I have been drinking mineral water for over 10yrs daily and only 0.1% drinking tap water (That is when go out for eat). tongue.gif
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RO water actually is the best system to provide us the real H2O and the only pure water.

water specialist, Mike R. Long also mentioned that R O water is the best system and the right way to get the pure water.

One more thing, It is correct if you said nothing mineral inside the R O water but you have to know the water you drink actually is not a part of nutrition but it is as transport to make sure all the systems in our body working well such as blood circulation..and etc.

If the mineral is the issues, I tell u...the mineral in a glass of milk contains of 100 bottles of 500ml mineral water you drink. So which one u prefer???? a glass of milk or 100 bottles of mineral water.??..think wisely..

As for me, I'm using R O base water filter at home as my daily drinking water also for cooking. As a result, i can see the rice can last till 2 days as well as my children's milk can last a bit longer.

I did research before I decided to choose this. Actually, i got water quality tester to check either your drinking water is safe to drink or not. Before this, I had tested many water filter but no need to state here what brand...

Guys, if you want to check either your drinking water is safe to be drink, i can help you to test your water.....just sms me or PM me...0197435949
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Nowadays there are too many water filters to choose (i think it is only happened in Malaysia).
Many are just a marketing gimmick.

Why spend thousand of ringgit when actually water from the tap is already safe to drink?

For those who don't want to boil water or not so confident with the water quality from the tap,
below are among the best and affordable water filters in the market. They can eliminate nearly 100% of bacteria.

Panasonic water purifier PJ-37MRF selling at around RM300+.
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http://www.panasonic.com.my/wps/portal/hom...urifier/PJ37MRF


OR similar but slightly more expensive from Coway P-07I

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http://www.coway.com/product/product_detai...tegoryOneCode=1

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 15 2011, 12:24 AM)
For those who are interested with alphamax, can consider PERFECT STEEL G2 Filter. If alphamax does not require changing the media, then i guess this filter could do the same as they are actually same as alphamax using micro Z, quick sand and fine sand.

***Sand & micro Z will need to be replaced around 3 years once.
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Hi Zean, this Perfect Steel G2 model, do we still need to replace the sand/packing inside the filter then? How often does it need to be replaced then?
Is this the same model I saw at your shop, that you have placed near the entrance? The link you showed, uses a stainless steel head though....
Thanks
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Read this and tell me that RO water is still good for health?

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http://www.live-in-green.com/health_info/p...ised_water.html

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health...mineralized.pdf
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these reports are not according to ONE water specialist but many many many specialists.

do not see short term results, but seek to understand the long term effects of RO water.

as for any filter claiming to be able to filter 100% bacteria/viruses, they have to product detailed reports or certifications in black and white as proof...plus what bacteria it filters.

the numbers "100%" is just a marketing gimmick provided its justified black n white and certified by reknown parties - eg NSF, WQA.
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Jul 7 2011, 05:35 PM)

as for any filter claiming to be able to filter 100% bacteria/viruses, they have to product detailed reports or certifications in black and white as proof...plus what bacteria it filters.

the numbers "100%" is just a marketing gimmick provided its justified black n white and certified by reknown parties - eg NSF, WQA.
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Take Panasonic PJ-37MRF as an example. They don't claim that their water purifier can filter 100% bacteria but it is written 99.99% bacteria reduction.
The remaining of 0.001% could be untraceable/unknown bacteria.

Besides that, they don't even claim that water through the purifier is safe to drink.
For that, i think the source of the water is also important. If the source of water is poisonous, it is not safe to drink even with the best water filtration.
Do you agree with that?

If you are so concern about 100% bacteria removal, i suggest you to boil the water.


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Hey guys, what do you think of PI water?
http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil...0750&sec=health

http://www.pi-water.com/new/en_water_DrPi_WhatIsPi.html


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There isn't any scientific evidence to demonstrate the benefits of the energized water. Water filter most important function is to filter impurities such that it is suitable for drinking. If you follow this principle then you don't really need anything extra.

These energized water, alkaline water are mostly originated for JP and KR - two countries where fads are norm. That said, some of the "theories" seem plausible but not proven. I have just gotten the latest Panasonic TK7585 ionized water filter just to try out the difference. At least I know the Panasonic water filter does indeed is a good water filtering device I.e effective in getting rid of harmful substances at least. Ionized water is just an added feature to me
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There isn't any scientific evidence to demonstrate the benefits of the energized water. Water filter most important function is to filter impurities such that it is suitable for drinking. If you follow this principle then you don't really need anything extra.

These energized water, alkaline water are mostly originated for JP and KR - two countries where fads are norm. That said, some of the "theories" seem plausible but not proven. I have just gotten the latest Panasonic TK7585 ionized water filter just to try out the difference. At least I know the Panasonic water filter does indeed is a good water filtering device I.e effective in getting rid of harmful substances at least. Ionized water is just an added feature to me
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Is that a Panasonic Alkaline Ionizer? I m planing to get 1. What thing that need to maintainence or change yearly?
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I think is the filter and electrode
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Is that a Panasonic Alkaline Ionizer? I m planing to get 1. What thing that need to maintainence or change yearly?
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Yes. It is alkaline ionizer. You need to change the filter about yearly bit this depends on the usage. The electrodes once is gone it is gone. You can still use it for normal filtered water but it has no more ionized water
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off topic.... anyone know where to find those small filters (like pensonic type) that is meant to be installed @ the pipeline.... last time it was very common.... i just wanna filter rust and big dirt.... i am not planning to get those huge types due to space constraint.... and also i have to install at multiple water source due to piping design flaw (cannot amend)
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3M look nice. RM 1099


Added on July 17, 2011, 9:10 pmAnd 1/3 the size of normal sand filter.

This post has been edited by weikee: Jul 17 2011, 09:10 PM
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Is that a Panasonic Alkaline Ionizer? I m planing to get 1. What thing that need to maintainence or change yearly?
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saw the panasonic alkaline water ..filter... cost RM1699 after discount, it is good for health ?


Added on July 17, 2011, 10:32 pm
QUOTE(digir @ Jul 7 2011, 01:05 PM)
Nowadays there are too many water filters to choose (i think it is only happened in Malaysia).
Many are just a marketing gimmick.

Why spend thousand of ringgit when actually water from the tap is already safe to drink?

For those who don't want to boil water or not so confident with the water quality from the tap,
below are among the best and affordable water filters in the market. They can eliminate nearly 100% of bacteria.

Panasonic water purifier PJ-37MRF selling at around RM300+.
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http://www.panasonic.com.my/wps/portal/hom...urifier/PJ37MRF
OR similar but slightly more expensive from Coway P-07I

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http://www.coway.com/product/product_detai...tegoryOneCode=1
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how much is the cost for panasonic water FILTER REPLACEMENTS ? how often to change ? it is easily available ?

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pana replacement is around 150bucks. i normally change every year. but: i have entry filter over lava rubble + double carbon filters running before hand. so onlything left is minor impurites. on a sidenote: anyone has a solution to fit the panasonic filter under the sink?
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saw the panasonic alkaline water ..filter... cost RM1699 after discount, it is good for health ?
It depend on your diet. What I know if your diet mostly acidic, akaline water will help you neutralize the ph. Another way, cut slice of lime put inside your water to drink. And ionizer will refresh you. But I don't no ionizer water can refresh internally. hmm.gif But confirm ionizer can refresh you externally.

Is that cheap? They have 2 model for this alkaline water filter.


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QUOTE(PJusa @ Jul 17 2011, 11:38 PM)
pana replacement is around 150bucks. i normally change every year. but: i have entry filter over lava rubble + double carbon filters running before hand. so onlything left is minor impurites. on a sidenote: anyone has a solution to fit the panasonic filter under the sink?
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Becarefull to put under the sink. Some water filter can't handle continues pressure and will bust the casing. Specially night when water pressure is higher. I have this bad experience with anway water filter. Flood my hall and kitchen when morning wakeup. Even after put a pressure regulator to reduce the pressure.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 17 2011, 11:53 PM)
It depend on your diet. What I know if your diet mostly acidic, akaline water will help you neutralize the ph. Another way, cut slice of lime put inside your water to drink. And ionizer will refresh you. But I don't no ionizer water can refresh internally. hmm.gif  But confirm ionizer can refresh you externally.

Is that cheap? They have 2  model for this alkaline water filter.


Added on July 17, 2011, 11:59 pm
Becarefull to put under the sink. Some water filter can't handle continues pressure and will bust the casing. Specially night when water pressure is higher. I have this bad experience with anway water filter. Flood my hall and kitchen when morning wakeup. Even after put a pressure regulator to reduce the pressure.
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1) I saw this panasonic alkaline machine at Best Denki subang parade... original price RM1999 now Rm1699 (i think
for 2 units only)
but i am looking at cheaper pana normal water filters... the red, white blue and the white pink colour ones...


If we compared to stainless steel water filter eg. Delcol..etc... (with doulton carbon slim filters) compared with Pana
water filter... what is the differents in terms of features, maintenance , etc ?

i think normal doulton filter cost about Rm40 + only
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Click on the link below..watch it and then decide. It's really fantastic. I had bought one. smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZ_7kGza9U&feature=related

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3M promotion.

http://solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/!...P9ggxHRQCxT4D0/
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the bio ken looks good, how much is it? And also how bout outdoor filter?
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the bio ken looks good, how much is it? And also how bout outdoor filter?
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The Bio Ken got 3 series...Ken 1, Ken 2, Ken 3 also got outdoor filter....its price very reasonable as the quality is very good...Pure Water Guaranteed!!! can test if you want....I mean the 'water quality'. PM me if you really interested...
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This sounds like a sales pitch to me rather than anything else
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How is Hexagon alkaline water filter from Cosway? Initially view at panasonic red, but now consider Hexagon too? Member price is RM625, normal is rm1.5k..true? Any review???
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I'll prefer some good reputable brand. 3M, Panasonic, AMway, GE.
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So means Cosway is not reputable brand? Amway how much?
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How is Hexagon alkaline water filter from Cosway? Initially view at panasonic red, but now consider Hexagon too? Member price is RM625, normal is rm1.5k..true? Any review???
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Guys, save hundreds & perhaps thousands of rm.

Use this..

http://www.doulton-water.com/doulton-ultracarb.aspx

& this ..

http://www.gd-wholesale.com/chinaproduct/m...er-m513788.html

& u will be as healthy as using any branded expensive filters.


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I have found out Amway Espring is way over priced in Malaysia.

I cost USD 435.00 (RM 1,305.00) on Amazon

Link

http://www.amazon.com/eSpring%C2%AE-Carbon...16595098&sr=8-2

OK OK is understand Air freight, tax bla bla... MLM profits.

But come on lah ! they charge RM 4K here, isn't that rediculous. rclxub.gif

A friend of my (Amway Troopers) will talk about how great this divine water filter, every time we meet without fail. yawn.gif

Yes i agree it may be quite good but not worth the price.
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QUOTE(filalinazi @ Jul 18 2011, 02:31 PM)
Click on the link below..watch it and then decide. It's really fantastic. I had bought one. smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZ_7kGza9U&feature=related
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It's a RO water filter. That is all it is. The whole ad is like whoa magic water.

If you tell me that the filter can give me clean water, I'll listen to you explaining why and how clean it is.
If you tell me that the filter can give me energized, oxygenated, bla bla bla, magic, divine, holy, <insert science term> water, then I know you are bullshitting me.
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QUOTE(Jolo @ Sep 21 2011, 04:58 PM)
I have found out Amway Espring is way over priced in Malaysia.

I cost USD 435.00 (RM 1,305.00) on Amazon

Link

http://www.amazon.com/eSpring%C2%AE-Carbon...16595098&sr=8-2

OK OK is understand Air freight, tax bla bla... MLM profits.

But come on lah !  they charge RM 4K here, isn't that rediculous.  rclxub.gif

A friend of my (Amway Troopers) will talk about how great this divine water filter, every time we meet without fail.  yawn.gif

Yes i agree it may be quite good but not worth the price.
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lol bro Jolo, the unit u found on amazon is a different model. Espring in US has couple of different models, in malaysia (and most other countries) only 1 model sold.

if wanna compare every electrical item priced in Msia with the ones on Amazon/ebay... i would say almost EVERYTHING is more exp here la~ tongue.gif

also, FYI RM4k is retail price...it can go down as low as RM2700+ with trade in facilities and up to 18mth interest free installment.

for that kinda price + certifications + B&W reports, easily beats any other competitor in the Malaysia market.ofcos cannot compare pricing with other countries. why pay RM1.5k-2k to get something of middle class quality(most likely no proper certs or nonsense claims) .


u can verify my statement with your Amway friend smile.gif
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My current Amway first generation water filter with UV out live the outdoor sand filter.

Not that it never break down, but spare parts was available. When we want to find spare parts for the sand filter the company stop making and no more stock. Ask us change another model @#$%#$^#$%


Added on September 22, 2011, 6:50 pmOh, and the Amway filter still running.

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How about Bacfree kitchen water filter?

Have this for years and used to run the water from Bacfree onto a distiller but I discontinued the distiller simply because the RM200 a month electricity was getting too much. Plus the water quality was minimally improved. Did my homework and concluded that its more than good enough. Interesting enough the amount of sediment on the distiller was very low after the Bacfree.

Quality water filters need not expensive. Won't want to comment much as up to a certain point the water is more than safe for drinking. Cost? A lot cheaper than a lot of the filters discussed here.


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I am thinking of getting Water Purifier from Coway.

http://www.coway.com/product/product_detai...tegoryOneCode=1

Any reviews?? blush.gif
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If 3M do sell directly, i'll get 3M. Actually 3M oem to alot water product company

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I just purchase 3M outdoor and Indoor filter. Total RM 2099. I like the outdoor unit. Compact and nice. The Indoor is also direct drink, and NSF certification.

I like the seller, he told me the filter can match with all the filter here in Malaysia except Amway because 3M don't have UV, but Amway have. 3M have a list of water filter with NSF in Malaysia, they know what they deal with.


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If 3M do sell directly, i'll get 3M. Actually 3M oem to alot water product company
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They don't sell direct but through dealer. I got mine from the dealer.

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 23 2011, 03:33 PM)
I just purchase 3M outdoor and Indoor filter. Total RM 2099. I like the outdoor unit. Compact and nice. The Indoor is also direct drink, and NSF certification.

I like the seller, he told me the filter can match with all the filter here in Malaysia except Amway because 3M don't have UV, but Amway have. 3M have a list of water filter with NSF in Malaysia, they know what they deal with.


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They don't sell direct but through dealer. I got mine from the dealer.
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Hi . Any recommendation for good water filter with hot and cold water dispenser?

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3M not many dealer, I know Xam Max, Signature Kitchen

http://solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/3M/e...2D0IIKS89LN00G7
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I have been searching for a proper good water filter systems...
Tupperware has a new "Nano Nature Water Filtration" $2599 , trade in discount $200 promo till end Sept. Anyone any experience with this product?

I prefer it because:
- Tupperware well known with lifetime warranty for plastic containers.
- its US based company
- no electricity required.

Any feedback welcomed. I will be buying in few days before promo ends.
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QUOTE(tomme @ Sep 27 2011, 03:13 PM)
I have been searching for a proper good water filter systems...
Tupperware has a new "Nano Nature Water Filtration" $2599 , trade in discount $200 promo till end Sept. Anyone any experience with this product?

I prefer it because:
- Tupperware well known with lifetime warranty for plastic containers. 
- its US based company
- no electricity required.

Any feedback welcomed.  I will be buying in few days before promo ends.
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Just realised that the replacement parts for Tupperware Nano Filter is very expansive!!
- Nano Ceram filter cartridge = $480 per year/ 5000 liters !!

My other choice is PHILIPS; about RM1,400 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 250/yrs @ RM125 per filter /6months/ 3000 litres.
But I dont like & dont need the UV; because I do boil before drink.

Might consider DIY ( combine with Panasonic PJ-37MRF ) as suggested by PJusa...but I not familiar with DIY...maybe PJusa kind enough to share a photo of his 'setup' + tips ?
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if u hv UV, u actually dont have to boil the water...boiling process kills viruses, BUT in order to really kill most viruses, u have to bring the water to boil and leave it boiling for 15-20 mins...by then alot of that water may have evaporated >_<

i saw this on a news clip.


@weikee

the 3M filter has NSF?....u know what NSF standards they have? i would assume minimum also have standard 52?
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Sep 28 2011, 11:02 AM)
@Tomme

if u hv UV, u actually dont have to boil the water...boiling process kills viruses, BUT in order to really kill most viruses, u have to bring the water to boil and leave it boiling for 15-20 mins...by then alot of that water may have evaporated >_<

i saw this on a news clip.
@weikee

the 3M filter has NSF?....u know what NSF standards they have? i would assume minimum also have standard 52?
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I know what NSF. 3M is NSF Std 42 & NSF Std 53 tested and certified. Amway also NSF Std 42 & NSF Std 53 tested and certified, but amway have additional certification because it have UV.

http://solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/3M/e...2D0IMBP0SFB3GO3

Serofax, many people think boiling kill all bad things. Actually not. Also RO water not good for long term storage because it does not contain chlorine, and is best not to filter all chlorine before coming to the house water tank.

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Serofax:
I have small children below 3years old drinking the water...so we prefer to boil.

Seems Panasonic PJ-37MRF does not hv any NSF or WQA certifications...cant find stated anywhere.

Just found that Member price for Tupperware Nano filter = $360 per year/ 5000 liters !
- a bit high price but claimed to effectively removes 158 contaminants!

http://www.tupperwarebrands.com.my/~tupmas...es.php?cPath=33

http://www.tupperwarebrands.com.my/nnwfs_how.php?cPath=33

http://www.tupperwarebrands.com.my/nnwfs_10.php?cPath=33


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Things with filter will need to be replace. Can't wash. Washable filter won't be able to filter small particle.
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did some research smile.gif

for 3M :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF standard 53 -
Cyst Reduction
Lead Reduction
MTBE Reduction
Turbidity Reduction


for Tupperware :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF standard 53 -
Asbestos Reduction
Chlordane Reduction
Lead Reduction
Mercury Reduction
MTBE Reduction
PCB Reduction
Toxaphene Reduction
VOC Reduction


for ESpring :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF Standard 53 -
2,4,5-TP (Silvex) Reduction
2,4-D Reduction
Alachlor Reduction
Asbestos Reduction
Atrazine Reduction
Benzene Reduction
Carbofuran Reduction
Carbon Tetrachloride Reduction
Chlordane Reduction
Chlorobenzene Reduction
Dibromochloropropane Reduction
Endrin Reduction
Ethylbenzene Reduction
Ethylene Dibromide Reduction
Heptachlor Reduction
Heptachlor Epoxide Reduction
Lead Reduction
Lindane Reduction
MTBE Reduction
Mercury Reduction
Methoxychlor Reduction
O-Dichlorobenzene Reduction
PCB Reduction
Radon Reduction
Simazine Reduction
Styrene Reduction
Tetrachloroethylene Reduction
Toluene Reduction
Trichloroethylene Reduction
Trihalomethanes (TTHM) Reduction
Toxaphene Reduction
VOC Reduction
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Coway water filter is another brand you can consider. You can owned from RM50 per monthly.

Coway is No. 1 Water Filter In Korea. More than 1 out of 4 Koreans use Coway water filtration devices,
and 1 out of 10 uses Coway's air purifiers.

Please refer to http://www.cowayandhealth.com/coway-amazin...1-dont-miss-it/
for October Promo. Also stay tune with a new promo in November.

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the best is still boil water. our country water system not trustable. dirty what filter also no use. if dirty will cause Diarrhea.

only high temperature can kill bacteria. passing thru filter and not boil water still have germs. dont be lazy, drink boil water is the best.

filter is not 100% safe. germs still exist. hidden recurring fees for maintaining filter is expensive

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Oct 27 2011, 10:52 AM)
the best is still boil water. our country water system not trustable. dirty what filter also no use. if dirty will cause Diarrhea.

only high temperature can kill bacteria. passing thru filter and not boil water still have germs
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like saying the filter only catches the bacteria and give it a place to "grow" on tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Oct 27 2011, 10:52 AM)
the best is still boil water. our country water system not trustable. dirty what filter also no use. if dirty will cause Diarrhea.

only high temperature can kill bacteria. passing thru filter and not boil water still have germs
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Boiling will not kill all unless you boil it longer say 15 to 20mins. Well unless you put into pressure boiling. UV light kill more than boiling.
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QUOTE(tomme @ Sep 28 2011, 02:52 AM)
Just realised that the replacement parts for Tupperware Nano Filter is very expansive!!
- Nano Ceram filter cartridge = $480 per year/ 5000 liters !!

My other choice is PHILIPS; about RM1,400 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 250/yrs @ RM125 per filter /6months/ 3000 litres.
But I dont like & dont need the UV; because I do boil before drink.

Might consider DIY ( combine with Panasonic PJ-37MRF ) as suggested by PJusa...but I not familiar with DIY...maybe PJusa kind enough to share a photo of his 'setup' + tips ?
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The Panasonic PJ-37MRF sounds good for its price. Any idea where to get the best deal?
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guys, want to ask your advice :-

Outdoor filters -
Puregen vs Nesh Membrane filters (puregen using PAN and Nesh using PVC). Nesh is like 1k more expensive. any comments?
3M oudoor filter. I cant tell from website if it's sand or membrane filter. any comments?


Indoor filters -
Nesh qoozo - adv: ozone layer to wash vege,fruits, fishes, etc. disadv: actual water filter is normal like others. comments?
E-Spring - adv: many certifications with UV tech. disadv: pricey and will this UV kill any good bacteria also? comments?


hope to hear from you all soon.
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Sep 28 2011, 06:19 PM)
did some research smile.gif

for 3M :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF standard 53 - 
Cyst Reduction
Lead Reduction
MTBE Reduction
Turbidity Reduction
for Tupperware :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF standard 53 -
Asbestos Reduction
Chlordane Reduction
Lead Reduction
Mercury Reduction
MTBE Reduction
PCB Reduction
Toxaphene Reduction
VOC Reduction
for ESpring :

http://nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp...er&Program=DWTU

NSF Standard 53 -
2,4,5-TP (Silvex) Reduction
2,4-D Reduction
Alachlor Reduction
Asbestos Reduction
Atrazine Reduction
Benzene Reduction
Carbofuran Reduction
Carbon Tetrachloride Reduction
Chlordane Reduction
Chlorobenzene Reduction
Dibromochloropropane Reduction
Endrin Reduction
Ethylbenzene Reduction
Ethylene Dibromide Reduction
Heptachlor Reduction
Heptachlor Epoxide Reduction
Lead Reduction
Lindane Reduction
MTBE Reduction
Mercury Reduction
Methoxychlor Reduction
O-Dichlorobenzene Reduction
PCB Reduction
Radon Reduction
Simazine Reduction
Styrene Reduction
Tetrachloroethylene Reduction
Toluene Reduction
Trichloroethylene Reduction
Trihalomethanes (TTHM) Reduction
Toxaphene Reduction
VOC Reduction
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tq tq for ur research! save me a lot of trouble.. notworthy.gif
whoa, this amway filters 'si beh' banyak things.. too bad so expensive.


weikee, hv u started using ur 3M filter? I'm really interested to know if it's good coz saw u mention it is compact sand filter right? looking for one now.
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Nov 19 2011, 03:48 PM)
tq tq for ur research! save me a lot of trouble.. notworthy.gif
whoa, this amway filters 'si beh' banyak things.. too bad so expensive.
weikee, hv u started using ur 3M filter? I'm really interested to know if it's good coz saw u mention it is compact sand filter right? looking for one now.
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Philips also have an excellent filter that's almost as good as Amway at almost half the price. Also with UV lamp. Forgot the name.
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I bought the 3M filters. Outdoor AP-902 (RM900) and indoor AP Easy Complete (RM650), inc. installation. I asked the installer to do the bypass piping for the outdoor unit, add RM80 pay to installer. Next time I know anyone going to US, will ask them to buy the filters. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(kamion @ Nov 21 2011, 06:39 PM)
I bought the 3M filters. Outdoor AP-902 (RM900) and indoor AP Easy Complete (RM650), inc. installation. I asked the installer to do the bypass piping for the outdoor unit, add RM80 pay to installer. Next time I know anyone going to US, will ask them to buy the filters. biggrin.gif
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Why do you need a bypass piping?
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QUOTE(kamion @ Nov 21 2011, 06:39 PM)
I bought the 3M filters. Outdoor AP-902 (RM900) and indoor AP Easy Complete (RM650), inc. installation. I asked the installer to do the bypass piping for the outdoor unit, add RM80 pay to installer. Next time I know anyone going to US, will ask them to buy the filters. biggrin.gif
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Hmm, mine did foc for the bypass.


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Why do you need a bypass piping?
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What happen if filter faulty / leaking / need replacement but need to wait few days? No water to use?

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kamion, hey where did u buy the 3M filters from? need to find a salesman who really know the product to explain to me..
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Anybody has experience with 3M AP Easy Complete Drinking Water System or AP-DWS1000 Deluxe Drinking Water System? How much does the system cost and how much is the cartridge for replacement? TQ
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Anybody has experience with 3M AP Easy Complete Drinking Water System or AP-DWS1000 Deluxe Drinking Water System? How much does the system cost and how much is the cartridge for replacement?  TQ
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RM 2099

Replacement, not sure. Experience, 0 months. Wait till i start drinking let you know.
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kamion, hey where did u buy the 3M filters from? need to find a salesman who really know the product to explain to me..
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Bought from World Perspective in Taman SEA (No. 10 Jalan SS23/11).


QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 21 2011, 09:47 PM)
Hmm, mine did foc for the bypass.
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So good..... how did you manage to wrangle that one out of them?

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Bought from World Perspective in Taman SEA (No. 10 Jalan SS23/11).
So good..... how did you manage to wrangle that one out of them?
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Ahh, I did not. I just ask him how he do it, he say put here, and put bypass.


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no more lo RM2,099 promotion. anyway i was at xam max to look at 3m filters. honestly..the salesman know nothing about the filters..so .. i made a wasted trip..bah..
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Nov 23 2011, 12:14 PM)
no more lo RM2,099 promotion. anyway i was at xam max to look at 3m filters. honestly..the salesman know nothing about the filters..so .. i made a wasted trip..bah..
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You can't blame him when multinational Philips had a gem on their hand and they didn't know how to sell it either and the last i heard, they stop importing it into this country.

Just imagine, a filter that is practically as good as Amway eSpring but at half the price. Practically having all the same NSF certifications for water quality but even more user friendly. Any idiot who know filter will be able to sell it by the truck load if only they know how. What a pity doh.gif

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Serofax,
Since you had done so many research on water filtration, would you care to share with us which water filtration you are currently using in your house for POE and POU??

Tks
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Optiplex330, so means philips filter totally not available in msia dy? then how does the previous owners change their cartridges?

weikee, sometimes do the research also get wrong info one..sien-ness.
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Optiplex330, so means philips filter totally not available in msia dy? then how does the previous owners change their cartridges?

weikee, sometimes do the research also get wrong info one..sien-ness.
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The last time I checked last year, it was super difficult to get hold of one. Call any Philips dealer and they don't know what you are talking about. Call up HQ also blur blur.

Therefore, even though it was super cheap, I reckon getting hold of replacement cartridge would be a big problem so have no choice but to get the expensive but very good Amway. At least with Amway, replacement cartridges are everywhere.

To make thing simple, just make very sure the filter you are buying are certified by NSF or WQA or UL to their Standard 53 (minimum). Having also Standard 55 is an added advantage. And just don't take the salesman word for it, go tho NSF/WQA/UL's website to check for yourself. If they don't have those certifications, just walk away no matter what they say. My 2 sen.




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DO oyu know what the promotion going on now for Coway?

oway water filter is another brand you can consider. You can owned from RM50 per monthly.

Coway is No. 1 Water Filter In Korea. More than 1 out of 4 Koreans use Coway water filtration devices,
and 1 out of 10 uses Coway's air purifiers.

Please refer to http://www.cowayandhealth.com/coway-amazin...1-dont-miss-it/
for October Promo. Also stay tune with a new promo in November.

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DO oyu know what the promotion going on now for Coway?

oway water filter is another brand you can consider. You can owned from RM50 per monthly.

Coway is No. 1 Water Filter In Korea. More than 1 out of 4 Koreans use Coway water filtration devices,
and 1 out of 10 uses Coway's air purifiers.

Please refer to http://www.cowayandhealth.com/coway-amazin...1-dont-miss-it/
for October Promo. Also stay tune with a new promo in November.

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Is it certified by NSF or WQA and to which standard?

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i was looking for the phillips uv water filter as well but too bad they are no longer available.

the tupperware nano filter was featured @ mid valley exhibition, it has nsf 42 & 53 as well. any comments?


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i was looking for the phillips uv water filter as well but too bad they are no longer available.

the tupperware nano filter was featured @ mid valley exhibition, it has nsf 42 & 53 as well. any comments?
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how much ionized water with uv water filter ??is good for healthy and clean...is safe to drink !!!

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Help Guys, I have a headache here. rclxub.gif
Looking for good indoor water filter that has hot and cold water function,

something like Coway Petit - http://www.cowayandhealth.com/water-filter/petit/
but without the excess water discharge.

Having trouble with this as I need already done my kitchen tabletop and has a water piping outlet specifically for filter water (right in the middle of the of the kitchen tabletop) but without the sink for water discharge. The hob is located between this water outlet and the sink. doh.gif

As you can see I post this at 6 am in the morning. Having sleepless night worrying about this. blink.gif
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QUOTE(fast_coder @ Nov 28 2011, 11:11 PM)
i was looking for the phillips uv water filter as well but too bad they are no longer available.

the tupperware nano filter was featured @ mid valley exhibition, it has nsf 42 & 53 as well. any comments?
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IMO, having those 2 standards mean it's already better than many other on the market. Only thing losing out is Standard 55 (UV sterilization).

How much are they selling the Nano filter?


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how much ionized water with uv water filter ??is good for healthy and clean...is safe to drink !!!
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UV light is to kill virus and bacterias etc in the water. Many people may not realize this: properly filtered water contains no chlorine so filtered water should not be kept too long. They should be consumed soonest possible.

Personally, I don't believe in ionized water mambo jumbo.


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Help Guys, I have a headache here.  rclxub.gif
Looking for good indoor water filter that has hot and cold water function,

something like Coway Petit - http://www.cowayandhealth.com/water-filter/petit/
but without the excess water discharge.

Having trouble with this as I need already done my kitchen tabletop and has a water piping outlet specifically for filter water (right in the middle of the of the kitchen tabletop) but without the sink for water discharge. The hob is located between this water outlet and the sink.  doh.gif

As you can see I post this at 6 am in the morning. Having sleepless night worrying about this.  blink.gif
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Personally, I would avoid any filter that requires water discharge because it means it's using Reverse Osmosis to filter water. Do a 'google' and you will find plenty of article saying RO water (also called De-mineralized water) are bad for health. There is even a World Health Organization article saying the same thing. So why take the risk to damage your health?


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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Nov 29 2011, 06:18 AM)
Help Guys, I have a headache here.  rclxub.gif
Looking for good indoor water filter that has hot and cold water function,

something like Coway Petit - http://www.cowayandhealth.com/water-filter/petit/
but without the excess water discharge.

Having trouble with this as I need already done my kitchen tabletop and has a water piping outlet specifically for filter water (right in the middle of the of the kitchen tabletop) but without the sink for water discharge. The hob is located between this water outlet and the sink.  doh.gif

As you can see I post this at 6 am in the morning. Having sleepless night worrying about this.  blink.gif
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Take a look at this....http://www.waterexpress.com.my/main.php?section=dispenser&page=dispenser_tabletop
The MAGIC tabletop hot and cold water dispenser is the most popular model till date. You may customise the 3/4 water filters to your needs too.

LOL, I have been hunting for POE and POU since early this year. Till date could not decide on membrane or sand media type. rclxub.gif
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Read this for RO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purified_wate..._purified_water
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Many people fail to realize what is good for the laboratory can be bad for health. Highly purified water may be good for doing experiment in laboratories because the dissolved minerals in them can influence the outcome. Human, on the other hand, needed those same mineral to promote good health. That's why I said one should avoid any filter that discharges water because it can only mean one thing: RO water.

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IMO, having those 2 standards mean it's already better than many other on the market. Only thing losing out is Standard 55 (UV sterilization).

How much are they selling the Nano filter?
i think it retails @ around 2.6k, now i am considering either espring or this tupperware.

i have a friend quoted me 3k for the espring and i notice the price differs if you ask one member to another. how do they price the product? isn't the price fixed?


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Take a look at this....http://www.waterexpress.com.my/main.php?section=dispenser&page=dispenser_tabletop
The MAGIC tabletop hot and cold water dispenser is the most popular model till date. You may customise the 3/4 water filters to your needs too.

LOL, I have been hunting for POE and POU since early this year. Till date could not decide on membrane or sand media type. rclxub.gif
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wow...that is indeed a very nice looking product and pricey too!! no wonder it is pictured together with a luxurious sports car. biggrin.gif

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i think it retails @ around 2.6k, now i am considering either espring or this tupperware.

i have a friend quoted me 3k for the espring and i notice the price differs if you ask one member to another. how do they price the product? isn't the price fixed?
So how much is the tupperware replacement filters cost? And how many liters is it being certified for? Then you can work out the cost per liter and see which is cheaper.

Assuming cost per liter is the same. For 3K vs 2.6K, I will pick the eSpring just because it has UV light sterilization. Save the trouble of boiling water.
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y mostly the filter provide alkaline water?our body need it so much that we need to consume it everyday?
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y mostly the filter provide alkaline water?our body need it so much that we need to consume it everyday?
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In human body, when it becomes too acidic, it will neutralize it. When the body get too alkali, it will neutralize it also. The body mechanism will automatically make sure it stays at a certain PH. So I don't think drinking water too alkali or too acidic will do anything because the body will make sure it does go out of range anyway.

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Report back on the 3M outdoor (AP-902) and indoor (AP Easy Complete) after one week of usage.

Before installing the water filters, my drinking water (after boiling) will have a funny smell after a couple of days.

After installing, the water seems like no more smell even after a couple of days in the water container. Not very scientific, but taste/smell test. haha.

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Report back on the 3M outdoor (AP-902) and indoor (AP Easy Complete) after one week of usage.

Before installing the water filters, my drinking water (after boiling) will have a funny smell after a couple of days.

After installing, the water seems like no more smell even after a couple of days in the water container. Not very scientific, but taste/smell test. haha.

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If you have to boil, why not get a water filter that has NSF Standard 55 UV light sterilization? So much more convenience.

As for the water taste. It means the water no longer have Chlorine. Since it no longer have Chlorine, water should not be left unused for too long because without Chlorine as anti-bacteria agent, bacteria and virus can grow in it.


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QUOTE(kamion @ Dec 1 2011, 11:48 AM)
Report back on the 3M outdoor (AP-902) and indoor (AP Easy Complete) after one week of usage.

Before installing the water filters, my drinking water (after boiling) will have a funny smell after a couple of days.

After installing, the water seems like no more smell even after a couple of days in the water container. Not very scientific, but taste/smell test. haha.

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how much you paid for the outdoor unit?


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how much is the outdoor unit and wat is the cost to replace the filter when it reach the limit?
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Between NESH QOOZO and 3M AP-DWS1000 (dual-stage system), which one is better for our daily consume?

Beside, do I still need to boil water if im using the 3M AP-DWS1000?
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Chlorine will give bad smell only after a couple of days? I don't think so.

Outdoor unit got it for RM900. Filter change is RRP RM399.

AP Easy Complete RM650. Filter change RRP RM180.
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Has anyone heard of hydro1? What do you think of hydro1? www.hydro1.com.my

Seloka Sukma is currently offering a package of Hydro one outdoor filter, Hydro One Pressure Booster Pump and Solarwave Pipe Heating System.
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Chlorine will give bad smell only after a couple of days? I don't think so.

Outdoor unit got it for RM900. Filter change is RRP RM399.

AP Easy Complete RM650. Filter change RRP RM180.
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So the complete set cost you RM1299 (outdoor unit) and RM830 (indoor unit)? Are these prices inclusive of installation?

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Has anyone heard of hydro1? What do you think of hydro1? www.hydro1.com.my

Seloka Sukma is currently offering a package of Hydro one outdoor filter, Hydro One Pressure Booster Pump and Solarwave Pipe Heating System.
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Most of Solar Wave dealers have package for Solar + pump + filter as all these three items are from one company.

I would say Solar Power + Grundfos water pump + sand filter would give u less trouble and longer life span. If you wan to know why, just come to our showroom in kepong

Here is our location
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Between undersink Bacfree BS-5 and 3M AP Easy Complete, which one has better water taste ( I mean, not scientifically) ?
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If my incoming pipe from outside and the pipe to my house are concealed inside my fencing wall, how can I install outdoor water filter...

I am headache now....pls give advices...


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So the complete set cost you RM1299 (outdoor unit) and RM830 (indoor unit)? Are these prices inclusive of installation?
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No, it's RM900 + RM650 = RM1550 including installation.

The RM399 and RM180 are for the replacement filters as and when you need to replace them. Maybe in a year or so.

I considered Bacfree, but they told me it cost RM4000++ for their outdoor filter. Compared to 3M with NSF certification, Bacfree apa certification pun tak da. I also like the idea of just swapping out the filter for RM399 every year. I imagine there can be stuff growing in the sand filter after a while, even with back wash, sure cannot get everything out.

As for the cost, maybe 8 years or so before the cost of the 3M outdoor unit will equal the Bacfree unit. If I know of anyone going to the US with luggage space, can just order online from the US to bring back. I think the replacement filters are a lot cheaper over there. wink.gif
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No, it's RM900 + RM650 = RM1550 including installation.

The RM399 and RM180 are for the replacement filters as and when you need to replace them. Maybe in a year or so.

I considered Bacfree, but they told me it cost RM4000++ for their outdoor filter. Compared to 3M with NSF certification, Bacfree apa certification pun tak da. I also like the idea of just swapping out the filter for RM399 every year. I imagine there can be stuff growing in the sand filter after a while, even with back wash, sure cannot get everything out.

As for the cost, maybe 8 years or so before the cost of the 3M outdoor unit will equal the Bacfree unit. If I know of anyone going to the US with luggage space, can just order online from the US to bring back. I think the replacement filters are a lot cheaper over there. wink.gif
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As for filter, the main problem is, how do you know 750 gallons has passed through it and it's now time for replacement? That's why I think some sort of water measuring device/sensor is important and that's what I like about eSpring and the one from Philips.

http://www.tnc.com.hk/ap_root/family/ap_family_eng.html#4
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wat is the difference between 3m and the traditional sand filter for external filtration?
looks like the cost of maintenance for the 3M is high where you might need to replace the filter every year at rm399 where the sand replacement might be rm250 and only need replacement every 3 years or more.

and for the indoor filter, RM650 sounds reasonable compared to others but the rm180 for catridge replacement every 6 months might be costly.

im not saying anything bad bout 3M and i quite like it but i juz want to know the money worth spent.

please advise as Im looking for a reasonbable water filtration system


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kamion, thanks for confirming.

Would you mind to let me know where you got the filter from?
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There are so many water filter brands and models to choose from. I think it will be hard to find one that everyone is happy with. Just go with whichever one you fancy. smile.gif They can claim filter down to how many microns or even nanometres, shine ultraviolet light, release ions, or whatever, but at the end of the day, who can really confirm it? Hence, certification adds some credence to the claims. But still, who knows? smile.gif


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kamion, thanks for confirming.

Would you mind to let me know where you got the filter from?
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wat is the difference between 3m and the traditional sand filter for external filtration?
looks like the cost of maintenance for the 3M is high where you might need to replace the filter every year at rm399 where the sand replacement might be rm250 and only need replacement every 3 years or more.

and for the indoor filter, RM650 sounds reasonable compared to others but the rm180 for catridge replacement every 6 months might be costly.

im not saying anything bad bout 3M and i quite like it but i juz want to know the money worth spent.

please advise as Im looking for a reasonbable water filtration system
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Size and difference element,. 3M is much more smaller in size, and can filter much smaller items. I am using internal and external 3M
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thanks kamion smile.gif.
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True enough. Must trust internationally certified water filter instead of water filter with overadvertisement but not internationally certified. Hm, now I am thinking of 3M, hope it's a good investment, with good taste smile.gif
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3m outdoor filter is membrane filter right?need to do backwash or not?or jst change filter when its stucked. No backwash seems like quite highmaintenance
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3m indoor water filter need ele socket?
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Hi all,
PureGen is having offer now, PGM942 only RM599.
Is this a good product?

http://www.dealmates.com.my/deals/December...9?rs=3&ru=80258

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Look like Midea OEM.
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Anyone use puregen before the mydeal is quite cheap now , but i am very doubtful of the quality . any ppl to share
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I m selling perfect steel, fibre filter similar to PGM 942 for RM 650 with installation or RM 500 without installation
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Hey , this looks like coway product. any further product info?
Include what type of filters?
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yes seems like a rebranded Coway. I'm also looking for water filter, does anyone have contact for GE's POE filter?
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not considering 3M water filter dy...coz cannot drill hole at sink la..

my sink build in one sad.gif

i ask the salesman ..how? he said ..."3M is suppose for DIY purposes one. u should buy the filter before u buy the sink to renovate. Then u can choose the sink that's able to drill one" doh.gif

alamak means i should buy the furniture and accessories of the house, then only renovate ka?? then u know where u wanna put la all ur things...what la.. rclxub.gif



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I m selling perfect steel, fibre filter similar to PGM 942 for RM 650 with installation or RM 500 without installation
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What is the size?
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not considering 3M water filter dy...coz cannot drill hole at sink la..

my sink build in one sad.gif
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What do you mean your sink built in? Where does the water tap come out from? Surely can drill, even on tiled concrete top can drill. I got Unity Kitchen to come back to drill a hole in the already installed quartz top. They were very obliging.
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yes seems like a rebranded Coway.  I'm also looking for water filter, does anyone have contact for GE's POE filter?
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The authorized distributor is crystalwater
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Hi all,
PureGen is having offer now, PGM942 only RM599.
Is this a good product?

http://www.dealmates.com.my/deals/December...9?rs=3&ru=80258

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Wa good deal... Considering to get one also.
Got to ask experts if this is ok to use...
Guys, any advise ?

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9" diameter, height is also about 42", similar to PGM 942. But my casing is grey like waterco.


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Hey , this looks like coway product. any further product info?
Include what type of filters?
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This design is similar to Coway but it is using UF Alkaline system while Coway's 1 is RO filter. Therefore, there is no dirty water to be discharged, no wastage.



Facts from Wikipedia
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Household reverse osmosis units use a lot of water because they have low back pressure. As a result, they recover only 5 to 15 percent of the water entering the system. The remainder is discharged as waste water. Because waste water carries with it the rejected contaminants, methods to recover this water are not practical for household systems. Wastewater is typically connected to the house drains and will add to the load on the household septic system. An RO unit delivering 5 gallons of treated water per day may discharge 40 to 90 gallons of wastewater per day

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Bought puregen...,service very good.
Let's see how the filter performs...
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Bought puregen...,service very good.
Let's see how the filter performs...
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Appreciate your valuable feed back on this filter.

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I bought sand type...really confuse
one person says this n another one
says that. What I need is a economic filter can
fo the work of filtering n comes out
with good quality water for bathing n
washing. For drinking, I bought another
Panasonic filter which I will boil b4 drinking.
As long as it is not RO water...it's fine.

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I used to thought Fibre Filters are durable and could last for a long time. However, one of the members jus shared this photo with me.

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Im just curious for those who are using filter like 3M that does not indicate when you are suppose to replace your filter. Is there anyway for you to track how many gallons/liters of water that your filter has been "cleaning" around?

Was thinking whether I should install a water meter to at least know where to replace the water filter tongue.gif
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Im just curious for those who are using filter like 3M that does not indicate when you are suppose to replace your filter. Is there anyway for you to track how many gallons/liters of water that your filter has been "cleaning" around?

Was thinking whether I should install a water meter to at least know where to replace the water filter tongue.gif
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Outside filter, the water pressure will drop. Till maybe you can't take it change loh.

Inside, it supply with an external timer. You can start it when you start using the filter. It will beeb after reach countdown. Maybe I year i guess.


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I see, then i guess outdoor one is not an issue as we will notice it once the water pressure is too low for us to use.

As for the indoor unit, I am taking the AP Easy Complete with SQC Sediment Pre-Filter which doesn't have any countdown timer sad.gif

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I see, then i guess outdoor one is not an issue as we will notice it once the water pressure is too low for us to use.

As for the indoor unit, I am taking the AP Easy Complete with SQC Sediment Pre-Filter which doesn't have any countdown timer sad.gif
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Does it have a turn? like mine it have a turn for Start and slowly go to stop. Which you can turn back again (reset)
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AFAIK, only 2 faucet water filter has built in water flow meter indicating how many liters had been filtered, Amway's and Philip. IMO, this is very important because a filter that has long past it's replace-by date is worst than having no filter at all.

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QUOTE(kamion @ Dec 8 2011, 07:18 PM)
What do you mean your sink built in? Where does the water tap come out from? Surely can drill, even on tiled concrete top can drill. I got Unity Kitchen to come back to drill a hole in the already installed quartz top. They were very obliging.
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Kamion..the sink unit I bought has no wing on the side...and I did concrete tabletop, didn't wanna drill anywhere in case it affects the structure of the top
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Hi All.
Anyone using IDE Bio Energy System. Waterco - Model Micron W250.It claims minimal maintenance,no filter caltridges to clean or to replace
( Backwash water monthly only).Product from Australia.Any comments or feedback on this product.Unable to decide on a good and reliable one.
Was quoted Rm 1650 for Micron W 250 with free Bio-synergy Water System and cleaning of 02 Water Tank.Thank you.
Website - Waterco


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Does it have a turn? like mine it have a turn for Start and slowly go to stop. Which you can turn back again (reset)
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Nope, no turn at all. Just filter smile.gif . I check with 3M sales person, and he said that I have to write down the date that I changed the filter and roughly have to replace it after 1 year (depend on number of persons using it).
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ho's the coway wan? recently see a lot of shopping centre promoting it. and the price not cheap
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Just installed undersink Bacfree BS-5 today. So far, so good smile.gif
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i have magic counter top and floor standing dispenser on sale.

outdoor sand filter also have. only rm599 with installation

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Hi guys,

If my water pipe is concealed in the wall where my sink tap is wall mounted, how to install an indoor water filter?
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Hi guys,

If my water pipe is concealed in the wall where my sink tap is wall mounted, how to install an indoor water filter?
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Output from your sink tap.

Like how older Amway UV water filter work.
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what do guys think about back free outside filter?

http://www.bacfree.com.my/hh_er.html
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Output from your sink tap.

Like how older Amway UV water filter work.
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my house water pressure not high if i buy outdoor filter can improve the water pressure ah?
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I may be wrong but I think that filter uses R.O. and if is does, it's bad for health. So what good can a product be if it's bad for health? Want to die faster, better jump off the building. Cheaper also.

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Puregen outdoor filter suck big time, after about 1 yr use, have to backwash it every few days, else water will go yellowish. after backwash water will got some strange smell, but will go away if tap leave open for sometime.
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Dec 29 2011, 02:55 PM)
Puregen outdoor filter suck big time, after about 1 yr use, have to backwash it every few days, else water will go yellowish. after backwash water will got some strange smell, but will go away if tap leave open for sometime.
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thanks for your comment bro, waited for long time for puregen feedback, it seems to be troublesome if we need to backwash for every few days.. did you contact puregen to figure out this problem? as they claimed comes with warranty for 10 years rite?
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Added on November 29, 2011, 7:14 am

Personally, I would avoid any filter that requires water discharge because it means it's using Reverse Osmosis to filter water. Do a 'google' and you will find plenty of article saying RO water (also called De-mineralized water) are bad for health. There is even a World Health Organization article saying the same thing. So why  take the risk to damage your health?
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Does that mean all filter that requires water discharge is RO including those alkaline water type? blink.gif
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Dec 29 2011, 11:47 PM)
thanks for your comment bro, waited for long time for puregen feedback, it seems to be troublesome if we need to backwash for every few days.. did you contact puregen to figure out this problem? as they claimed comes with warranty for 10 years rite?
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warranty 10 yrs are only on the stainless steel body, other are standard 1 yr. Anyhow, manage to get puregen to do the membrane service, rm120. have to monitor the performance this few days.
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warranty 10 yrs are only on the stainless steel body, other are standard 1 yr. Anyhow, manage to get puregen to do the membrane service, rm120. have to monitor the performance this few days.
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Nope, the 10 years warranty they claimed not the stainless steel model, it is a fiber body type
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after service the water quality still suck, something must has went wrong on the membrane, just after warranty expired, what a good timing!
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this post already 19 pages and after i have read through, i still cant decide which one to be used....haiz.....
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QUOTE(tiensong @ Jan 20 2012, 02:54 PM)
this post already 19 pages and after i have read through, i still cant decide which one to be used....haiz.....
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u wan cheap and you wan good ?,  what are u basing your decision on ?
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haha..i want cheap,good and reliable.....and easy to maintain....
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haha..i want cheap,good and reliable.....and easy to maintain....
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prices usually go up when its good and reliable..

easy to maintain is the 3m one just change the whole cartridge/filter every year smile.gif

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well, I'm having the Perfect Steel for past one month, even it should having backwash every month, but I just backwash almost every 2 - 3 days for my car porch area.
But the water out from the backwash are damn dirty and need to let it run for at least 2-3 min before get it back to white.
My suggestion is if you have option why not just use the backwash water for other use (except initial few min), clean the floor, car wash...the end result you still get a clean water into your house lol...if too lazy than pay more for auto backwash equipement and clean up every day lol

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go make your own.. there is no cheap good and reliable..

prices usually go up when its good and reliable..

easy to maintain is the 3m one just change the whole cartridge/filter every year :)

your out of luck smile.gif
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This is the part I find most funny. If you have a household of 2 people, you change it once a year. But if you have a household of 20 people, you also change once a year? Where is the logic for that? Surely 20 people consume more water than 2 people. No?

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This is the part I find most funny. If you have a household of 2 people, you change it once a year. But if you have a household of 20 people, you also change once a year? Where is the logic for that? Surely 20 people consume more water than 2 people. No?
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same concept with car service, 3months or 5000km which even come 1st...

I using amway indoor water filter, the machine have the timer counter to "force" me change the filter cartridge every 12 months even though it serving 2 adults in my house... doh.gif but it also have the water usage calculation by litre as the lifespan will shorter if filter more water within 12 months...
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jan 22 2012, 09:06 AM)
This is the part I find most funny. If you have a household of 2 people, you change it once a year. But if you have a household of 20 people, you also change once a year? Where is the logic for that? Surely 20 people consume more water than 2 people. No?
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Change is per average household usage, hence is it say 12 months once. There is an instruction and recommend change interval. You don't have to change every 12 months if your water pressure is still good. Once is slow down is time to chance.

I know cause I am using indoor and outdoor 3m, and the 3m promoter have advice me on this.

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Do not use puregen. I use it before and left it in my old house when i shifted to my new house. It have a funny smell every morning when i use the water. I back wash it every week but still the same. There have some fine sand stuck in the water tap and i need to take out the water tap to clean it, if not the water come out very slow. Ask them to check but the problem still the same. Now i am using Aque free and so far so good.
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Change is per average household usage, hence is it say 12 months once. There is an instruction and recommend change interval. You don't have to change every 12 months if your water pressure is still good. Once is slow down is time to chance.

I know cause I am using indoor and outdoor 3m, and the 3m promoter have advice me on this.
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So what is an average household water usage per day? How many person in an average household? There are no figure given so it's like saying a household with 20 person is using as much water as a 2 person household so both only need to change filter at the same time, aka, 12 months. This is ridiculous.

As for pressure drop before change? Drop by how much? 20%? 50%? 90%?. And if you do not have a pressure meter, how do you know how much it has dropped?

Instead, I agree with gkl83. It's either after certain number of months or after how many liters of water had been filtered. For example, it should state 12 months or 5000-liters, whichever comes first.

12 months because if left for too long, bacteria and mold etc can grow on the filter making it bad for heath.

5000 liters because things like active charcoal could have reach it's designed chemical absorbing capacity. AFAIK, there are only 2 models in Malaysia having meters to monitor this. And I would not even consider buying any filter that does not have this built in. Because once filter exceeded it's filtering capacity, water coming out of it may be even more dirty than ordinary tap water. My 2 sen.











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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jan 22 2012, 12:36 PM)
So what is an average household water usage per day? How many person in an average household? There are no figure given so it's like saying a household with 20 person is using as much water as a 2 person household so both only need to change filter at the same time, aka, 12 months. This is ridiculous.

As for pressure drop before change? Drop by how much? 20%? 50%? 90%?. And if you do not have a pressure meter, how do you know how much it has dropped?

Instead, I agree with gkl83. It's either after certain number of months or after how many liters of water had been filtered. For example, it should state 12 months or 5000-liters, whichever comes first.

12 months because if left for too long, bacteria and mold etc can grow on the filter making it bad for heath.

5000 liters because things like active charcoal could have reach it's designed chemical absorbing capacity. AFAIK, there are only 2 models in Malaysia having meters to monitor this. And I would not even consider buying any filter that does not have this built in. Because once filter exceeded it's filtering capacity, water coming out of it may be even more dirty than ordinary tap water. My 2 sen.
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If you are interested check with the sales person or 3M, i am user and this information provide to you base on what i gather. I have the manual, but too lazy to read again.


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All filter does one thing and that is, remove particle and dissolved chemicals from the water. So it stands to reason that:

1. when all the holes in the filter had been blocked by the particle, you need to clean (eg. backwash) or change the filter.

2. when the filter had reached it's designed chemical absorbing capacity (like Activated Carbon), you need to clean (which can't be done by user) or changed.

And how much particle or chemical that has to be removed is directly dependent on how dirty or how much water has passed through it (therefore you need a meter to measure that). These are all basic Form 5 science. And one can't argue with basic scientific facts.

So any salesman who said 'you need to change filter every 12 months' without understand how much water the family consume is talking nonsense. Or out to make fast money.

IMO, drinking things that can be seen by the naked eyes like mud suspension or sand particle does no harm to our health. But I find many people more per-occupied with removing these.

But drinking what can't be seen like dissolved chemical (some of which causes cancer) or bacteria (that's why I wanted a filter that has UV light) will. Yet I find people not paying more attention as to whether the filter can really remove chemical (like certification by NSF etc) or whether it has reached the end of it's life cycle (replacing them 12 months instead of 8 months due to more people in house). This is wrong priority.

My 2 sen.

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Optiplex now u using amway? Friends, how much is the filter change for amway and is it change every year?
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Optiplex now u using amway? Friends, how much is the filter change for amway and is it change every year?
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I think Amway's eSpring is rated at 5000 liter per filter. That works out to be about 10 sen/liter filtered water.

Philips has a filter that is almost as good as Amway's at about half the price. But nobody seem to be selling it. That's a real pity.


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After re-read the thread 20 pages again, initially wish to go for puregen as before that only saw 1 poor feedback regarding the filter, but right now it seems to be similar problem on the filter performance (strange smell from water), wish to go for 3M but too bad they dont even have a dealer in melaka, alamak... Alphamax also not much retailer...
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Jan 23 2012, 10:37 PM)
After re-read the thread 20 pages again, initially wish to go for puregen as before that only saw 1 poor feedback regarding the filter, but right now it seems to be similar problem on the filter performance (strange smell from water), wish to go for 3M but too bad they dont even have a dealer in melaka, alamak... Alphamax also not much retailer...
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If you wanted to know the quality of any filter, just go to NSF (National Sanitation Foundation) or WQA website and make very sure they have the proper certification. Much better than asking in these forum or anywhere.

If water has strange smell, it means it can't even fulfill the lowly Standard 42. I will not consider any filter if it does not fulfill Standard 53 and preferably also Standard 55.


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Added on November 29, 2011, 7:14 am

Personally, I would avoid any filter that requires water discharge because it means it's using Reverse Osmosis to filter water. Do a 'google' and you will find plenty of article saying RO water (also called De-mineralized water) are bad for health. There is even a World Health Organization article saying the same thing. So why  take the risk to damage your health?
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Does that mean all filter that requires water discharge is RO including those alkaline water type? blink.gif


Hi Optiplex330, can help with this questions? smile.gif



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Does that mean all filter that requires water discharge is RO including those alkaline water type?  blink.gif
Hi Optiplex330, can help with this questions?  smile.gif
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AFAIK, all RO making unit discharges water so it's actually a very wasteful way of making drinking water. It discharges much more than it made. And it's confirmed to be bad for health.

As for alkaline water. I consider that b*llshit science because I have never come across any article written by universities or any health authority saying it's beneficial. The same people who said alkaline water is good also believe there are Martian on Mars. The only exception would be water with high mineral content. Water with high mineral content will naturally be more alkaline and we all know mineral are good for health. But Alkaline water made by other method are all b*llshit.

And because mineral are good for health is also the very reason why W.H.O. organization specifically said water that are devoid of mineral are bad for health and R.O. water is one of them.






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My friend recommended Aquasana to me and she said it has NSF53 certification. I guess if people like to boil water, this certification is fine?
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My friend recommended Aquasana to me and she said it has NSF53 certification. I guess if people like to boil water, this certification is fine?
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Actually I prefer to boil water too. Filtered too clean, difficult to store.
My friend imported hers from US saying it is much cheaper than getting it locally.
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Anybody using nesh? Is it good and how is the maintenance cost? For indoor and outdoor filter.
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every 3years +398rm

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just installed 3M outdoor (AP902) and indoor (AP-DWS1000), water taste nice now..LOL
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My fren stay same condo with me, my cosway 1st filter become yellow on 1st day while his 1 still white. ANY IDEAS?

Mine on 1st day:
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My fren after 1 month, never clean the filter yet.
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actually just install an outdoor sand filter outside to filter all the dirt enough la... just to make sure water is clear... just cook / boil your water before drink... no need buy those expansive and need cartridge change frequently... how i know? i'm water treatment specialist in my factory... we treat underground water as what JBA doing... put many chlorine to kill bacteria...

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wrb7878,
Some condo do have filter at the main tank and have standard maintenance. it also depend how much water you friend using lol, and when he / she use as those dirty water (early morning or later night) may go to other people house first.

Looking at your photo, you are having similar issue like me which just after 203 weeks, the internal water filter very dirty. what is your POE pressure level? is that more than 4?

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wrb7878,
Some condo do have filter at the main tank and have standard maintenance. it also depend how much water you friend using lol, and when he / she use as those dirty water (early morning or later night) may go to other people house first.

Looking at your photo, you are having similar issue like me which just after 203 weeks, the internal water filter very dirty. what is your POE pressure level? is that more than 4?
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How to know the POE level?
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These water filters.. what a bunch of horsecr*p. Only in Malaysia will you find the citizens are too paranoid on the purity of water.
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 26 2012, 09:06 PM)
How to know the POE level?
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You having POE right? Is that come with metal?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=49209460


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These water filters.. what a bunch of horsecr*p. Only in Malaysia will you find the citizens are too paranoid on the purity of water.
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Unfortunately we are in Malaysia. Without water filter washing your white shirts will soon turn into light brown. This i speak from experience. And we can't drink direct from tap. Many country I go can drink direct from tap. But not in Malaysia.
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You having POE right? Is that come with metal?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=49209460
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Anyone here using the Nesh promotion with the membrane filter + that big penguin ah? Can give some feedback pls? I am thinking to buy this promo, not sure worth it, so freaking exp sad.gif
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No, I din install the outdoor filter yet.now only have cosway water filter.
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That either you incoming water was dirty or the pipe are rusty.
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These water filters.. what a bunch of horsecr*p. Only in Malaysia will you find the citizens are too paranoid on the purity of water.
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I agree in a sense, there is only clean and dirty water, soft or hard water.

But in Malaysia we have people that believe in energy water, diamond water etc bla bla bla. Your filter needs to remove chlorine and heavy metals, not to provide long life and lots of luck. cool2.gif
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That either you incoming water was dirty or the pipe are rusty.
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OK. I will see how after install the outdoor filter.
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QUOTE(northface @ Feb 27 2012, 11:30 AM)
I agree in a sense, there is only clean and dirty water, soft or hard water.

But in Malaysia we have people that believe in energy water, diamond water etc bla bla bla. Your filter needs to remove chlorine and heavy metals, not to provide long life and lots of luck.  cool2.gif
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I wonder people will believe when I comeout new filtering water call "Tongkat Ali Water". biggrin.gif
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OK. I will see how after install the outdoor filter.
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You stay in Condo or terrace house?

This is what happen even I have POE inplace due to high pressure (5 bar) of incoming water.
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You stay in Condo or terrace house?

This is what happen even I have POE inplace due to high pressure (5 bar) of incoming water.
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I stay in condo.
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9" diameter, height is also about 42", similar to PGM 942. But my casing is grey like waterco.


Added on December 9, 2011, 2:10 am

This design is similar to Coway but it is using UF Alkaline system while Coway's 1 is RO filter. Therefore, there is no dirty water to be discharged, no wastage.

Facts from Wikipedia
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Household reverse osmosis units use a lot of water because they have low back pressure. As a result, they recover only 5 to 15 percent of the water entering the system. The remainder is discharged as waste water. Because waste water carries with it the rejected contaminants, methods to recover this water are not practical for household systems. Wastewater is typically connected to the house drains and will add to the load on the household septic system. An RO unit delivering 5 gallons of treated water per day may discharge 40 to 90 gallons of wastewater per day
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Hi zheilwane,
Are you still selling this type of indoor water filter?
How often will the filter need to be replaced and who will be maintaining / servicing?
E.g. for Coway, if on lease, the Coway ppl will maintain the water filter.
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I stay in condo.
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Wah...you better check with your condo management to see whether they already have some type of POE inplace or not, else complain why the water so dirty lol...

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Went to check out 3M products.
Got NSF 53 cert wan thumbup.gif
2 POU choices
1. Single filter.
Initial Cost RM700, Cartrige change RM180 after approx every 1800 litre of water, average operation cost per liter RM 0.10.
2. Double filter, with extra filter ability for errr.. MTB sumting,..
Initial Cost RM2k+, Cartrige change RM450 after approx every 2300 litre of water, average running cost per liter RM 0.19.

The above is what I roughly remember..... rclxub.gif
Damm Pricey !!!! doh.gif
maybe I just chuck the whole NSF standard out of my brain and just get BACFREE or DOULTON ceramic filter... British Standard blink.gif

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^isnt backfree is more exp and it is using sand
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QUOTE(noien @ Feb 29 2012, 08:12 AM)
^isnt backfree is more exp and it is using sand
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Bacfree has 2 system
1) Outdoor POE - Sand Filter - The most expensive sand filter I've come across so far in Malaysia.
- This model discussion needs to go to another thread about POE filter shakehead.gif

2) Indoor POU - Ceramic Filter - This is the one I was talking about here at this
" [Home Appliances] Water Filter, for drinking water purpose (Household)" thread. nod.gif
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Hee Hee , brows.gif saw alphamax sand filter with "NSF 61" Certification when I was shopping in TESCO.
I think the component "micro z" only, not the whole filter.
Checked what is "NSF 61 Certification"

From the NSF website:
http://www.nsf.org/business/water_distribution/faq.asp


General Questions on NSF/ANSI Standard 61
What is NSF/ANSI Standard 61?

NSF/ANSI Standard 61 - Drinking Water System Components was published in 1988 to establish minimum requirements for the control of potential adverse human health effects from products that contact drinking water.

NSF/ANSI Standard 61 includes criteria for testing and evaluating products to ensure they do not leach contaminants into the water that would be a health concern. These contaminants include those regulated by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) and Health Canada, as well as any other non-regulated compounds that may be of concern.
What products are covered under NSF/ANSI Standard 61?

Pipes and Related Products (including pipe, hose, fittings)
Protective and Barrier Materials (including cements/coatings)
Joining and Sealing Materials (including gaskets, adhesives, lubricants)
Process Media (including carbon, sand, zeolite, ion exchange media)
Mechanical Devices (including water meters, in-line valves, filters, process equipment)
Mechanical Plumbing Devices (faucets, drinking fountains, and components)
Potable Water Materials (non-metallic materials)


My summary : the component use is certified for drinking water contact. - the barang can touch drinking water wan. nod.gif
It still does not mean the water that comes out from the sand filter is NSF certified. doh.gif (dirty water in does not mean clean NSF 42 or 53 Certified water out) shakehead.gif
But hey, at least one of the component the component is safe for drinking water contact. tongue.gif
Very smart use of the NSF logo laugh.gif

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I have a friend is selling water filter (indoor & outdoor). If u all interested, he can consult u what type of water filter is suit for u. I bought a outdoor water filter from him. So far so good
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QUOTE(cenglee @ Mar 7 2012, 01:06 AM)
I have a friend is selling water filter (indoor & outdoor). If u all interested, he can consult u what type of water filter is suit for u. I bought a outdoor water filter from him. So far so good
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apa brand ?
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I am using one without pipe. No piping! It has all the features and functions that produces the cleanest water possible. There is no one filter system that is better than this one. Use in space station and millitary, in warship, submarine. It also dispense hot and cold water ready all the time good for ppl who drink chinese tea with small tea pots so that you get hot tea all the time.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Mar 6 2012, 11:09 PM)
Hee Hee , brows.gif  saw alphamax sand filter with "NSF 61" Certification when I was shopping in TESCO.
I think the component "micro z" only, not the whole filter.
Checked what is "NSF 61 Certification"

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If not mistake, the Alphamax are OEM from Perfect Steel too smile.gif

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yup u r rite. Tatz y ur Perfect steel filter also got NSF logo. THe NSF is for micro z media..
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i m thinking to install POE Puregen. Any comment about Puregen?...they r having promotion.

last week syabas replace my old GI pipe before meter with stainless steel and saiz 1 inche...wow now water pressure very good.
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QUOTE(tomjason @ Mar 8 2012, 10:36 AM)
i m thinking to install POE Puregen. Any comment about Puregen?...they r having promotion.

last week syabas replace my old GI pipe before meter with stainless steel and saiz 1 inche...wow now water pressure very good.
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I remember someone mentioned about puregen in this thread before

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+358

and

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+375

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Mar 8 2012, 10:55 AM)
I remember someone mentioned about puregen in this thread before

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+358

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+375
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TQ...this case..puregen cancel...
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I just saw a water filter pitcher in Perfect Living and I think it is under Mitsubishi..
Such a strong brand..Here is the link I search :
http://www.cleansui.com/en/product/pitcher/CP007E.html

What in my mind when 1st time saw this: looks like Blender..lol...
Btw, it's selling point is portable and mobile can carry here and there..They target for those who working 8 hours in office..

U all can have a look..And I just bought 1 because it is alkaline water after filter..So that i can bring to my office rather than i keep buy mineral water..
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Apr 13 2012, 04:00 PM)
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Cool, so you selling 3M now biggrin.gif

How much the cartridge for the indoor and outdoor, let me know the price. Want to buy one set to keep.


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Based on picture posted by bro zheilwane , to compare between 3M outdoor filter & gigantic Perfect steel. Bigger size doesnt mean a better filter process ? quality wise, the same ? maintenance wise ?

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zheilwane
wah..what make you decided to get 3M in?

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Apr 14 2012, 10:52 AM)
zheilwane
wah..what make you decided to get 3M in?
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The size, price, performance and also the real feedback from weikee (he has been using it for months) make me choose this filter smile.gif This filter is to target ppl who have space constraints like condos or ppl who wan something slim and not too bulky for their house.


Added on April 14, 2012, 11:10 pmWe will b open 2molo (sunday) from 10am - 6pm, if interested can drop by to have a look. We are usually close on sunday.


You can call us for direction once u reach Kepong, we are facing the main road (same row as hong leong bank)
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Aiyo, with price like that, I should have waited doh.gif
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Well, I would say, the best water filter will have the following characteristic :-

1. Filter Cartridges as we know must be replaced periodically. So filter replacement must be the cheapest.

2. Filtered water must be the cleanest.

3. Must have some form of water filtration standard in producing water. Well, you must imagine water filtration using water with LOW and HIGH incoming pressure, the filtered water must be the same.

With the above criteria in mind, it narrows down to :-

Reverse Osmosis or Distilled Water.

Don't listen to people telling you that we cannot drink water that is too pure. this is marketing gimmick as Reverse Osmosis water filtration is what they fear most. There is no science that says mineral cannot be added to pure water which will give you mineral water.

All water filters including AMWAY fails point 3 above. People always say we need to drink mineral water, but try asking them these Questions:-

1. Can they guarantee the mineral content of their water filter.
2. Can they guarantee water produced through their water filter say from Johor, or from Perlis or any other place have the same mineral content. So what mineral are they talking about?
3. Don't forget all Mineral water that we bought from super market do label their mineral content on the label.
4. We can equate toxic chemical as water mineral that their water filter cannot get rid off, that is why they have to sing mineral water.
5. A higher incoming water pressure will always produce faster than a lower water pressure. Therefore water quality will also be different. No water quality standard.

Reverse Osmosis on the other hand.

1. Water produce has no mineral content, but mineral can be added after filtration with mineral stones.
2. There is a standard model like: 50Gallon/day, 75Gallon/day and so on. This rating is set by the manufacturer.
3. Whether Low/High water pressure, output water still the same.
4. Can be used to filter sea water. This is what used onboard ship.
5. Water even sold in Supermarket.

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No need to add mineral to RO water. You get your mineral from food.
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QUOTE(chek @ Apr 20 2012, 08:44 PM)
Well, I would say, the best water filter will have the following characteristic :-

1. Filter Cartridges as we know must be replaced periodically.  So filter replacement must be the cheapest.

2. Filtered water must be the cleanest.

3. Must have some form of water filtration standard in producing water.  Well, you must imagine water filtration using water with LOW and HIGH incoming pressure, the filtered water must be the same.

With the above criteria in mind, it narrows down to :-

Reverse Osmosis or Distilled Water.

Don't listen to people telling you that we cannot drink water that is too pure.  this is marketing gimmick as Reverse Osmosis water filtration is what they fear most.  There is no science that says mineral cannot be added to pure water which will give you mineral water.

All water filters including AMWAY fails point 3 above. People always say we need to drink mineral water, but try asking them these Questions:-

1.  Can they guarantee the mineral content of their water filter.
2.  Can they guarantee water produced through their water filter say from Johor, or from Perlis or any other place have the same mineral content.  So what mineral are they talking about?
3.  Don't forget all Mineral water that we bought from super market do label their mineral content on the label.
4.  We can equate toxic chemical as water mineral that their water filter cannot get rid off, that is why they have to sing mineral water.
5.  A higher incoming water pressure will always produce faster than a lower water pressure.  Therefore water quality will also be different. No water quality standard.

Reverse Osmosis on the other hand.

1. Water produce has no mineral content, but mineral can be added after filtration with mineral stones.
2. There is a standard model like: 50Gallon/day, 75Gallon/day and so on.  This rating is set by the manufacturer.
3. Whether Low/High water pressure, output water still the same.
4. Can be used to filter sea water.  This is what used onboard ship.
5. Water even sold in Supermarket.
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Hee Hee, I am more to the non-RO water camp. icon_rolleyes.gif

From personal experience drinking only RO water for many years.
Just switched to mineral water 4 years ago.
As mentioned in previous thread, When I started going for full medical check-up 4-5 years ago,
I was dignosed with thin bone density and this is a rare occourance for a male of my age.
I suspected it might be because my body can't take too much RO water without affecting my health.
I would like to comment on some points presented above.

1. Filter Cartridges as we know must be replaced periodically. So filter replacement must be the cheapest.
Agreed, but should be of good quality standard (with external certification), cheap is good but if cheapest usually .....

2. Can they guarantee water produced through their water filter say from Johor, or from Perlis or any other place have the same mineral content. So what mineral are they talking about?
We mankind has been drinking water from different natural source for centuries, so consistant mineral content should not be a point of contention.

3. Must have some form of water filtration standard in producing water. Well, you must imagine water filtration using water with LOW and HIGH incoming pressure, the filtered water must be the same.
Agreed that there must be a standard. As with point No.2, with mineral water, mineral content consistancy should not be a point of contention as long as they meet the standard that allows healthy consumption.


I believe that the points above will also answer the second part about mineral water quality.

NSF 53 is the standard that I refer to for filtered water that meets healthy drinking water standard.
Its filtered so there is still mineral water content.
"NSF/ANSI Standard 53: Drinking Water Treatment Units - Health Effects
Overview: Standard 53 addresses point-of-use (POU) and point-of-entry (POE) systems designed to reduce specific health-related contaminants, such as Cryptosporidium, Giardia, lead, volatile organic chemicals (VOCs), MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether), that may be present in public or private drinking water."


NSF standard for RO is refer to NSF58
"NSF/ANSI Standard 58: Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems
Overview: This standard was developed for point-of-use (POU) reverse osmosis (RO) treatment systems. These systems typically consist of a pre-filter, RO membrane, and post-filter. Standard 58 includes contaminant reduction claims commonly treated using RO, including fluoride, hexavalent and trivalent chromium, total dissolved solids, nitrates, etc. that may be present in public or private drinking water


As for the facts regarding RO

1. Water produce has no mineral content, but mineral can be added after filtration with mineral stones.
If mineral is added back, via mineral stone, how to adhere to consistant mineral content in water ??
2. There is a standard model like: 50Gallon/day, 75Gallon/day and so on. This rating is set by the manufacturer.
Generally all manufacturer including the non RO filtration system has their own standard also, not just RO filtration manufacturers.
3. Whether Low/High water pressure, output water still the same.
Depends on the filtration system, there is also many non RO filtration system (esprcially the higher end models) that provide such consistant water output, one of them mentioned here is AMWAY.
4. Can be used to filter sea water. This is what used onboard ship.
In the sea, that is the only option avalaible lah, of course lah.
5. Water even sold in Supermarket.
Mineral water also sold in supermarket. Pricier some more.

Hee hee, jangan marah ye... just want to defend filtered Mineral Water that I am currently using. tongue.gif
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Mineral water sold in supermarket do label their mineral content.

Like iron, calcium, and so on with content level.

This mineral water filter cannot even tell us the mineral content and level after their water filter, what is that to argue about we must drink mineral water.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 21 2012, 09:58 AM)
Hee Hee, I am more to the non-RO water camp.  icon_rolleyes.gif


4. Can be used to filter sea water.  This is what used onboard ship.
In the sea, that is the only option avalaible lah, of course lah.

Hee hee, jangan marah ye... just want to defend filtered Mineral Water that I am currently using.  tongue.gif
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Not the only option. You can capture water from the air. There is one called Atmospheric Water Genertor use in large ship mostly military, submerine and space station. Water is heavy, every litre is 1 kg. Imagine one man need at least 2 to 4 liter just for drinking. 1 litre for brushing teeth? A one month mission for one man on space we are talking about 60 to 120 kg of water to be lifted up to space by rocket. It costs one million dollar to put a man up. It cost similar amount of money carrying the water for him. So, you got the Russian invention of Atmospheric Water Generator for their MIR station. All the waste water are reconverted with this water generator and filtered with RO.

A soldier cannot live without water in desert in 2-3 hrs. Imagine you run the football field for one half (45 minutes) under our hot afternoon sun. You can not last the 2nd half without half break drinking water. The US army trucks following behind the tanks and soldiers supplied not only water and fuel for the soldiers and their tanks and guns but also atmospheric water generators for the soldiers days and nights operated and camped in desrt in the operation desert strom.
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QUOTE(chek @ Apr 21 2012, 02:38 PM)
Mineral water sold in supermarket do label their mineral content.

Like iron, calcium, and so on with content level.

This mineral water filter cannot even tell us the mineral content and level after their water filter, what is that to argue about we must drink mineral water.
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For filtered household water, it comes from tap which is pretreated.
I agree it may not be up to standard but it has gone through a treatment process before we filter it again.
So no mineral content specification does not mean there is poison. blink.gif

Not arguing for "must" drink mineral water, "defending" mineral water. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 21 2012, 10:39 PM)
For filtered household water, it comes from tap which is pretreated.
I agree it may not be up to standard but it has gone through a treatment process before we filter it again.
So no mineral content specification does not mean there is poison.  blink.gif

Not arguing for "must" drink mineral water, "defending" mineral water.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have been drink mineral water for 16yrs. But not filter type. Those brought 18L. Now think back, it been very longtime.

Problem now is when drink pipe water, feel the taste different. And have problem to accept back.
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 25 2012, 07:26 PM)
My fren stay same condo with me, my cosway 1st filter become yellow on 1st day while his 1 still white. ANY IDEAS?

Mine on 1st day:
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My fren after 1 month, never clean the filter yet.
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Maybe Your Water Source Is Dirty?This Filter Can Be Washed By Hands One.

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When you first installed the filter the water supply stop completely for too long allowing the rusty GI pipe inside to resettled. As you turn back on the rush of the water moving the rust and collected at your first filter.

This will not happen as much if you turn off the water for a short while. You can wash the filter and see this time you dont get that browny waster by turning on slowly.

Or your fren filter is not properly fitted and water bypassed the filter. Check

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QUOTE(nkliong @ Apr 22 2012, 07:32 AM)
Maybe Your Water Source Is Dirty?This Filter Can Be Washed By Hands One.
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anyone been using hexagon,

how much is the maintenance cost?

total cost to install + filter how much

hopefully cheap option for low middle income pipu liek me
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i'm also stuck in between for outdoor water filter.

either Puregen or Nesh, which offers filter up to 0.01 micron. but nesh is around rm1k more expensive because of the patented pvc material.
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Apr 29 2012, 11:44 PM)
i'm also stuck in between for outdoor water filter.

either Puregen or Nesh, which offers filter up to 0.01 micron. but nesh is around rm1k more expensive because of the patented pvc material.
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Some one mentioned about the puregen with odor issue on the filtered water, you may search back the post biggrin.gif
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odor issues for outdoor or indoor?

i'm not so convinced for their indoor filter, but felt ok for their outdoor one
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i also stuck of which outdoor filter... and also concern about the maintence
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Has anyone heard of Aqua Fine? Any comments about filter from this brand?
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For those who interested with new Water Filter system may visit below link:-

http://www.amway.my/at-home/eSpring

http://www.amway2u.com/mall_proddet.jsp?prrfnbr=8343

Kindly pm for best offer and service if interested.

Thanks.
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i hv bad remark of Joven....

I hv finished install my new Joven i70P on last saturday..but not functioning..both heater and its pump..already contacted Joven...wau very slow respond...i bought 2 joven i70P..one ok..but one not ok.

be carefull if to choose Joven....


sorry wrong thread... blush.gif

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Hi guys...after a long reading on your guys post, learning from all guru advices here; finally I have got this for my home....TADA!!!

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Finally, I have decided to go with 3M Indoor and Outdoor filter.
And as expected, the $$$ still go to LYN favorite sanitary vendor with great service--->Zheilwane from Builder Hardware...

Why 3M, you may ask
Due to it performance which certified by NSF42 & 53 and the cost effectiveness/ value

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QUOTE(philipcs @ Dec 6 2011, 04:42 PM)
Hi all,
PureGen is having offer now, PGM942 only RM599.
Is this a good product?

http://www.dealmates.com.my/deals/December...9?rs=3&ru=80258

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I have posted the above deal from PureGen back in Dec 2011, I have it installed since Feb 2012 and using it until now. Perhaps is time for me to write a small review about Puregen POE water filter (Sand Type)....

Sorry, I have moved my review to Outdoor Water Filter Thread - http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=51276134

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Old or worn water treatment system to be trade in with RM1500!
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QUOTE(venzonic @ May 7 2012, 11:44 PM)
Hi guys...after a long reading on your guys post, learning from all guru advices here; finally I have got this for my home....TADA!!!

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Looks a lot like my installation. haha!

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QUOTE(kamion @ May 29 2012, 08:50 PM)
Looks a lot like my installation. haha!

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You can save space with this installation
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Compact looks better isn't it?

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The by pass valve not really reliable, after some sun shine, it sometime leak especially when you switch on the water outside to the max. I will change out to metal type myself when I have time. Brought it already just need to find time.
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Leak? The bypass valve is same as the other two valves. I think it was not done properly.

Worry about sun, you can cover it with something like cloth, plastic, etc or even aluminium foil, the one use for baking.
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Leak? The bypass valve is same as the other two valves. I think it was not done properly.

Worry about sun, you can cover it with something like cloth, plastic, etc or even aluminium foil, the one use for baking.
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Leak? The bypass valve is same as the other two valves. I think it was not done properly.

Worry about sun, you can cover it with something like cloth, plastic, etc or even aluminium foil, the one use for baking.
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Hi guys...after a long reading on your guys post, learning from all guru advices here; finally I have got this for my home....TADA!!!

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Finally, I have decided to go with 3M Indoor and Outdoor filter.
And as expected, the $$$ still go to LYN favorite sanitary vendor with great service--->Zheilwane from Builder Hardware...

Why 3M, you may ask
Due to it performance which certified by NSF42 & 53 and the cost effectiveness/ value
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can you PM me the price of indoor and outdoor unit
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any1 consider coway? not cosway. it is coway. im using coway apolo + coway petit. just move in, so far the water is odorless and taste...hmm.. i feel more fresh. I lazy to boil water so i get coway petite for indoor. every 3month got ppl come in for serving. 1st yr service foc, 2nd yr onward, if im not mistaken should be rm300++.
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any1 consider coway? not cosway. it is coway. im using coway apolo + coway petit. just move in, so far the water is odorless and taste...hmm.. i feel more fresh. I lazy to boil water so i get coway petite for indoor. every 3month got ppl come in for serving. 1st yr service foc, 2nd yr onward, if im not mistaken should be rm300++.
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can you share some picture on your coway...and how much you paid initial in total.? I am looking whether outdoor or indoor only or both..I do not have so much money to spend on going basis..try to be cost saving.
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Bro,
I am looking for a water filter, considering 3M under the sink. My condo already have Bacfree water filter outside for the whole condo, do I need to install AP902 inside my unit ?
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QUOTE(kamion @ May 29 2012, 08:50 PM)
Looks a lot like my installation. haha!

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Kamion, your's look neater than mine. I wish mine was installed as simple as yours, however i have the piping (bottom part, from outside meter to inside) pre-installed by my plumber during the renovation job prior to my decision of water filter. Hence, I have too wide space at the bottom piping setup with too large piping diameter. So finally end up with this zigzag piping setup from 3M installer.... doh.gif

Anyway, i think the 3M unit still look nicer than the bulky conventional sand filter....hehe
Morover, i can just forget about weekly backwash which i always fail to carry out when I was using D brand outdoor unit...


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You can save space with this installation
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Compact looks better isn't it?
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Ya Stevie8, nice idea; but the snake piping(zigzag piping to get the correct pipe position and diameter) might be at the other side of the wall otherwise conceal job might needed. Anyway, good idea to share....


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can you PM me the price of indoor and outdoor unit
also the installation cost
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I got it from Zheilwane from Builder Hardware during his promotion period as per his post in last few pages. Please refer to below link for the package I have bought....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+420
U might ask him for more details, I am sure he is more than happy to help u on this....
by the way, he is a nice guy with good customer service; it is always a breeze to deal with him... thumbup.gif

As for the installation cost: RM180, wash tank another RM100


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Hi,

How good is this 3M outdoor compare to those ultra filter like in this link
http://www.ultrapure.com.my/products_outside_ufmembrane.htm

How is the cost of maintenance of this 2 filters?
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Hi,

How good is this 3M outdoor compare to those ultra filter like in this link
http://www.ultrapure.com.my/products_outside_ufmembrane.htm

How is the cost of maintenance of this 2 filters?
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These are membrane filter, still need back wash, my parent house using one. Every 2+ years need to change membrane and chemical wash once a year, if your house usage volume is high need to change frequent. Same goes to 3m more volume you use higher the frequency to change.

Membrane you need daily back wash. 3m you don't but change fillet cartridge when water pressure is low.

Both is good, at least washing clothes it won't turn brown.
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I prefer sand filter instead of membrane filter for outdoor.
membrane clog very fast if your area water is very dirty and also required daily back wash. If you have installed the auto back wash timer, then no so ma fan.
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I prefer sand filter instead of membrane filter for outdoor.
membrane clog very fast if your area water is very dirty and also required daily back wash. If you have installed the auto back wash timer, then no so ma fan.
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Now most come with auto timer. sand filter will not filter very clan.
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also the installation cost
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Hi, just created an add for this 3m Package in LYN. BTW, i already PM u my best price smile.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2372919


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Bro,
I am looking for a water filter, considering 3M under the sink. My condo already have Bacfree water filter outside for the whole condo, do I need to install AP902 inside my unit  ?
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Installation AP902 is optional but having it would b better bcoz
1) Ur water will b cleaner and the indoor filter & other tap fittings will last longer.
2) It is much cheaper since u r goin to bundle it with the indoor filter.

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QUOTE(kcbyl @ Feb 25 2012, 08:14 PM)
actually just install an outdoor sand filter outside to filter all the dirt enough la... just to make sure water is clear... just cook / boil your water before drink... no need buy those expansive and need cartridge change frequently... how i know? i'm water treatment specialist in my factory... we treat underground water as what JBA doing... put many chlorine to kill bacteria...
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Now most come with auto timer. sand filter will not filter very clan.
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I noticed that with my GE sand filter. If the incoming source is very dirty, such as right after water supply resumes after a water cut, the filtered water is still quite dirty. Membrane filters would not have such a problem.

How much is the replacement for the 3M outdoor filter?
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QUOTE(wdarke @ Jun 4 2012, 01:29 PM)
I noticed that with my GE sand filter. If the incoming source is very dirty, such as right after water supply resumes after a water cut, the filtered water is still quite dirty. Membrane filters would not have such a problem.

How much is the replacement for the 3M outdoor filter?
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Yes common problem for sand filters, and put to much sand you lower the pressure and back cleaning will take longer.

Think is about 350+-

Mine yet to replace.
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I just saw a water filter pitcher in Perfect Living and I think it is under Mitsubishi..
Such a strong brand..Here is the link I search :
http://www.cleansui.com/en/product/pitcher/CP007E.html

What in my mind when 1st time saw this: looks like Blender..lol...
Btw, it's selling point is portable and mobile can carry here and there..They target for those who working 8 hours in office..

U all can have a look..And I just bought 1 because it is alkaline water after filter..So that i can bring to my office rather than i keep buy mineral water..
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do you have the address of the distributor.. looks interesting.
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This is what i get from the guy :
Express Multi Marketing Sdn Bhd
T:03-80237223
The guy asked me to find Jeff who same name with me..lolx..
Common name~~ rclxms.gif
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Thinking about getting Panasonic PJ-37MRF or Coway P-07IU since both are within my budget. My concern are only bout cartridge replacement which is pana is around RM150++ and know nothing about Coway P-07IU cartridge replacement price. Anyone?
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can you share some picture on your coway...and how much you paid initial in total.? I am looking whether outdoor or indoor only or both..I do not have so much money to spend on going basis..try to be cost saving.
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er....ok i will try to take some picture for u tonight. I buy off 1 time. in and out total rm5100. if just the apolo for outdoor should be 2k-3k. I can't rmb. the reason I choose this is because my company are using their product, im quite satisfy with the water result. and the outer skin is made on stainless steel. so no cracking or need additional cloth to cover it. And I like the backwash function, it is to clean up the filter, I can use the backwash water wash my car porch. But still every 6month will have a technician come to my house to clean up the filter in a more proper way. smile.gif
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jun 7 2012, 02:35 PM)
er....ok i will try to take some picture for u tonight. I buy off 1 time. in and out total rm5100. if just the apolo for outdoor should be 2k-3k. I can't rmb. the reason I choose this is because my company are using their product, im quite satisfy with the water result. and the outer skin is made on stainless steel. so no cracking or need additional cloth to cover it. And I like the backwash function, it is to clean up the filter, I can use the backwash water wash my car porch. But still every 6month will have a technician come to my house to clean up the filter in a more proper way.  smile.gif
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gosh! so expensive! i was expecting it to be 2k-3k in total for both indoor and outdoor! orz......
i'm looking for outdoor and indoor water filter currently as well..
been reading different threads for the entire afternoon..
still cannot decide which 1 to get.. though coway is too expensive for me, hope to see your sharing tonight! =D
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gosh! so expensive! i was expecting it to be 2k-3k in total for both indoor and outdoor! orz......
i'm looking for outdoor and indoor water filter currently as well..
been reading different threads for the entire afternoon..
still cannot decide which 1 to get.. though coway is too expensive for me, hope to see your sharing tonight! =D
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coway apolo

cpway petite
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 4 2012, 09:20 AM)
These are membrane filter, still need back wash, my parent house using one. Every 2+ years  need to change membrane and chemical wash once a year, if your house usage volume is high need to change frequent. Same goes to 3m more volume you use higher the frequency to change.

Membrane you need daily back wash. 3m you don't but change fillet cartridge when water pressure is low.

Both is good, at least washing clothes it won't turn brown.
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why i can't find the specification for the 3M filter?

Can help?
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why i can't find the specification for the 3M filter?

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Where else us better than the main 3m website itself.

Go to the website la
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why i can't find the specification for the 3M filter?

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somewhere around here..

http://www.aquapure.com/aq-products/whole-...ration.html?p=2

been researching myself... awaiting your PM zhelweine...
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guys is puregen good ???

http://www.madnessdeal.com/Deal/PreviewDeal.aspx?id=1192
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Hi all,

I'm surveying water filter right now for my new house, which is currently under renovation. I've read feedback for Coway, 3M, etc. But does anybody has experience with NESH Qoozo? They claim only they have filteration+ozone in their product.

Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.

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Hi all,

I'm surveying water filter right now for my new house, which is currently under renovation. I've read feedback for Coway, 3M, etc. But does anybody has experience with NESH Qoozo? They claim only they have filteration+ozone in their product.

Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
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I will only consider amway, and 3M with NSF certification. Panasonic had a Japanese certification which I can't recall what is call, can also consider.


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QUOTE(mosfet83 @ Jun 12 2012, 10:27 PM)
Hi all,

I'm surveying water filter right now for my new house, which is currently under renovation. I've read feedback for Coway, 3M, etc. But does anybody has experience with NESH Qoozo? They claim only they have filteration+ozone in their product.

Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
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I am using NESH Qoozo now. ..
If you are looking for water filter with ozone, i believe this is selling at relatively low price compare to have ONE filter + ONE ozone ...

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Where else us better than the main 3m website itself.

Go to the website la
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somewhere around here..

http://www.aquapure.com/aq-products/whole-...ration.html?p=2

been researching myself... awaiting your PM zhelweine...
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You are good guy.. notworthy.gif


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somewhere around here..

http://www.aquapure.com/aq-products/whole-...ration.html?p=2

been researching myself... awaiting your PM zhelweine...
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You are good guy.. notworthy.gif

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Try www.3m.com.my/water

Complete with distributor and dealer's list as well
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Hi, why not coway?Hmmm... the price is incl bi-monthly service & filter change...
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Hi! Plan to install an outdoor water filter for the whole house. Any good recommendation?
For outdoor unit like this, membrane filter or sand filter is better? Please share your opinion about this. THANK!
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i have this.

http://cowaymalaysia.com/2012/06/19/coway-...ter-20-off-now/

Coway Malaysia Water Purifier Apolo (Outdoor Filter) 20% off now!

Normal price = RM2700
Promo price = RM2160!

with free installation
with free 1 year services for every 4 month
with free 1 year change of polisher filter for every 4 month
with free 1 year change of P5 membrane. (one a year)

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hello fellow water purists,

has anyone have comments on this from panasonic?

PJ-37MRF
Hollow Fibres filter
Powdered Activated Carbon
Granular Activated Carbon

Specifications
Features
Hollow Fibres filter
Powdered Activated Carbon
Granular Activated Carbon
Bacteria reduction rate 99.99%
Purified water flow 4.0 liters/min
Shower / Stream selector lever
Cartridge Life Checker
Made In Japan

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I was also wondering whether these filters will affect the flow rate of the water especially those with low pressure.

Does the filter below will make the water pressure even lower?

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QUOTE(mosfet83 @ Jun 12 2012, 10:27 PM)
Hi all,

I'm surveying water filter right now for my new house, which is currently under renovation. I've read feedback for Coway, 3M, etc. But does anybody has experience with NESH Qoozo? They claim only they have filteration+ozone in their product.

Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
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I heard that ozone is not good for health. Read ot somewhere before. Better survey detaily.
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Why not consider 3M APDWS 1000? It is certified and tested by NSF. Currently we r having promo APDWS 1000 (indoor drinking filter) + AP902 (outdoor filter). Just drop by my showrrom for best price smile.gif Will b uploading a special package price of 3M + FOTILE Hood & hob soon (more SAVING $$$)

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its depend on your usage. you are requiring durable machine and according to my experience you should use Amway or Philips. you will pay little more but it will be very durable and long lasting.
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Here is how 3M filter looks like
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Here is how 3M filter looks like
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In term of size 3m win :-)
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Here is how 3M filter looks like
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zhilwane, how do 3M filter backwash? wink.gif
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zhilwane, how do 3M filter backwash? wink.gif
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