That is why his father have to keep on continue drink RO water only. lol

So many MLM brands in the market, the only one I can trust is Amway but its too costly for me haha. So far the 3M filter been serving me well, second time replacing the cartridge already.

By the way, want to ask if any sifu here using mixer taps for their filter? Am thinking of using a hot/cold/filtered water mixer for my new house so it looks more neat. Is there any brand you will recommended? Am looking at HCE to pair with my 3M filter.

thanks bro
i was nearly going to buy this product

can you recommend me good water filter that i can get around RM500 and below?

been reading this thread for a while and lots are recommending 3M.

where can i find 3M in melaka?
due to budget constrain, for now i want to go with indoor filter first(for drinking).
what would that will cost me?

or have any other good brand for me to consider?

many thanks!!

Hi, as i know every houses come with two pipe line from meter, one go up to water tank for bathroom and another direct pipe to kitchen. So if for drinking purpose with clean water, suggest get a undersink filter or countertop dispenser.

belive it or not after reading ur post, i actually email culligan and one of their sales representative came and meet up with us. However, the price that they offered us is much higher than what u purchased, hence we did not proceed with it. The local company i guess bought it via online or like aeiou228 (Culligan confirmed with us there is no distributor yet in malaysia), hence if one day they decide not to sell, it would b hard for normal end user to get the replacement and after sales support. Eg : if we decide not to sell 3M today, u can still get the replacement from other dealers or call 3M for the after sales service. Moreover, the price as per lelong does not include a filter tap, if u add in the filter tap cost and other fitting cost to install the filter as under sink, it will cost about like 3M AP Easy complete. So, i guess it is better to get the a more reliable brand with a local distributor with strong dealers support.

With recent water rationing, some of our customers call up to replace their cartridges earlier as the dirty water has clogged up their water filter. Hence, after doing some research, we found that adding a DOULTON washable prefilter, we can prevent the 3M filter from getting clogged THe prefilter is kinda cheap. So for those who could not install an outdoor water fitler or have problem with indoor filter getting clogged fast, i would recommend them to add a Doulton prefilter. Do drop by our showroom if u guys need more info.

He is just to explain the after sales service is very important if there is no local support. He didn't discriminating the Culligan products.

yup nightfelix, thanks for defending i never say it is no good...it has NSF jus like 3M, how to say it is no good. Just explaining, if i were to be the local distributor of the product, with the cost they offer me, my selling price would b much higher than what aeiou228 bought (comparable to 3M pricing). Moreover the filter tap is not provided, as most ppl prefer to hide the filter under their kitchen sink, they have to buy the seperate filter tap and installation fittings seperately, a good one could cost RM 100-200.

True i do have a shop and i sell water filters, bathroom and kitchen stuff online but i read reviews and do my own research to select my products, that is how i get to know 3M previously (from customer reviews online), i spoke to their sales representative checked on the reasonable selling price and now i m selling 3M.

What is the best outdoor water filter ? Any good recommendation?

I'm second of above same recommendation.

RO is not the best choice for drinking.

It is not the cleanest, although they try to claim it is. Distilled water is the cleanest and purest.

When come to drinking water, we have to know the following:

Q1) it is clean enough, how clean is clean?
Q2) it is suitable for human to drink?

Answer:
Q1) Water should be free from heavy metal and VOCs, in this context RO water done a good job on heavy metal but fail short with VOC [Volatile Organic Compound], whilst also remove the beneficial minerals like calcium and magnesium.

Q2) Our blood pH is between 7.35-7.45; RO water without minerals will have a lower pH, hence our body need to adjust the water to around pH 7.35 before the water can enter our blood. To do this, our body will extract calcium from our bone, hence prolong consumption of RO water will cause calcium deficiency.

RO water however (as mentioned by chickytien) is used by dialysis patients, some kidney transplant patients can only drink distilled water.....those are people with special needs....not everyone is suitable to drink RO or distilled water.

Even WHO has a write up on telling people not to drink too much RO and distilled water.

I tried checking alkalife lydia 7 website to see for myself the technology that they use to see if it makes any sense at all to be able to cure any sort of illness.

On the website, there's an advertisement on how it cures diabetes / heart related illness / blood pressure/ cholesterol.

FYI, Section 3(1) of Medicines (Advertisement & Sale) Act, 1956 states:

Prohibition of any advertisement referring to any article in terms calculated to lead to the use of that article as a medicine, appliance or remedy for the purpose of
• prevention or treatment or diagnosis of certain diseases and condition of human being as specified in the Schedule (20 diseases)

Included in the list of 20 diseases, there's hypertension, diabetes and heart related illness.

Advertisements should not be exaggerated, false, misleading or deceptive. This sort of advertisement in their website is no different from the brochures we get in supermarket whereby certain product particularly jamu can cure ALL SORTS OF DISEASES ranging from hypertension to cancer to mental illness..

In the website of alkalife there's also an NSF mark which is downright misleading because besides that NSF mark, nothing else in that website has anything to do with NSF certification. alkalife is NOT NSF CERTIFIED So what is the NSF mark doing sitting there at the website?

The only illness it can possibly cure is probably acute dehydration.

Yeah, you are right, certification in Malaysia means nothing, even crappy so call Korean Technology or Korean Patent means nothing in Malaysia as well, everyone claim their water tech product No.1 in Korea or Germany.

But as a smart consumers, Genuine Certification are very important, especially like we discussing in forum here.

We living in Bolehland, well you know, that is our standard protocol. lol

Any of you guys straight drink from water filter without boiling? I most of the time boil first but occasionally become lazy and drink straight from filter. So far dont hv direct effect from it. Taste so good so i confidently drink directly. Been 6 month tho... Mybe long term effect . Using ez-4 btw.

Anyone knows whether Coway water filter is safe? I read in their U.S. site it complies with NSF 42, 53 and 58. Then I looked at the Malaysian site, it's not mentioned at all.

seriously? ...lol...

but actually got so good this machine ?

because now i quiet interested with Coway water filter because they included Hot and Cold water and the water are ready just push a button to drink. is it sound good compare to eSpring ? except eSpring got one NSF certified... so important that certified?

I dunno if its world no.1 or not, but with NSF 42, 53 and 55 (UV)..i dunno what is NSF 401.. its very complete package in the sense it covers almost everything. Previously there was a Philips water filter that had 42, 53 and 55 as well.. and it was half the price of the eSpring, but it is no longer sold here... of course it would be better choice over eSpring due to the price.

I am not aware of any other water filters locally that is certified NSF 42, 53 and 55.

RO water is not suitable for human consumption as proven by WHO.

Bro..Amway is MLM.. you ask...sure many fanboys and downline come support their product 9 9 lor. But if that's the kinda budget you wanna spend...better buy eSpring than Diamond lah..Diamond can throw longkang.

As for Coway, don't bother, most of it no NSF. Some don't even have specification.

Bro, it is based on unit. It will not carry any meaning if it is based on revenue. There are filter costing 7k, 10k, 16k. VWA, Electrolux, Kangen....
That one is a fake, beware. Ppl knew it is good, and make an imitation product.
NSF certificate cannot be bought, if it can bought, Philips, Panasonic, Pensonic, Cosway.....will be on the list, which they are not currently certified.

Philips were certified once, but not meeting the standard in later batches of the production...

Sorry for not linking the report. Here you go: Verify Markets

NSF is a non-profit organisation in USA, not Malaysia. It cannot be bought. Like what is mentioned above, if the certification can be bought, big companies certainly will be able to afford to pay for it and buy it.

To be certified by NSF, the water filters need to be tested again and again every year to maintain its certification.

Yes, other cert you can buy. NSF, you can't buy. And that's why it is special. The "number" underneath the water bottles (1,3,5,7) are also standards set by NSF.

Every month, the new batch of products are tested. Random units are selected to be retested. This is how serious NSF is to protect the consumer.

Nope, you shouldn't take anyone's words, you should do your own homework, get a lab, and start testing the different water filters.

I have equipment to do basic test, covered diamonds(3 diff models), elken, coway(many models), nesh, bacfree, panasonic, philips...

cheers