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ZeneticX
post Mar 10 2022, 03:50 PM

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currently im comparing LG and Toshiba washine machine and dryer

I know LG had been pretty much recommended by everyone but the price is on the premium side as well (for the model I'm interested in)

any comments about Toshiba?
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post Mar 11 2022, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Mar 11 2022, 05:31 PM)
Toshiba is actually OEM by Midea.

All their household appliances, is now manufactured under Licence by Midea.

Based on response on Toshiba Dishwasher, seems like after sales support is non existent or very poor for Toshiba. I myself am using Toshiba dishwasher because of its value for money proposition; quality does feel cheap but then again, at that price point which I got it at, I am not complaining.

For washing machine is a different scenario, as there will be wear and tear parts which you need to take into consideration + reliability; if the machine is going to be used on daily basis.

Hard to draw comparison between LG and Toshiba, firstly LG is direct drive (Without belt) and second is the 6 motion wash which delivers better wash in comparison to other FL.

Going by Shopee reviews on Toshiba FL, mostly seems to be in favour but then again its fairly new in our market and fairly new in manufacturing Front Loaders but that said, Midea is a leading washing machine manufacturer in China and I believe, LG is also made in China.

I know Panasonic FL is manufactured in China; but LG doesn't say location of manufacturing except on the smaller pedestal machines are made in Korea along with some of the premium level models from LG.
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Thanks for your input. I believe nowadays electronics reliability more or less the same as manufacturers try to keep the cost down and increase profits, except in some cases like premium or high end models. So for me actually more important would be the after sales service / support

Currently comparing between these 2 combo

LG -
Washing machine - FV1409S4W
https://shopee.com.my/product/485076209/106...91-1646992275.9

Dryer - VD-H9066WS
https://shopee.com.my/product/485076209/589...91-1646992358.9


Toshiba -
Washing machine + dryer (TW-BK95G4M(SK) + TD-K90MEM(SK))
https://shopee.com.my/product/172999916/109...91-1646992703.9

The price of the LG dryer alone already more than the toshiba combo. So I'm contemplating whether to spend the premium on LG

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post Mar 12 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Mar 12 2022, 05:59 AM)
If you are getting separates, can always mix and match unless you are looking at stacking?

Btw, I don't think its fair comparison on the dryer though. LG is Heat Pump type, whereas Toshiba is Condenser Type. Heat pump is always more expensive than condenser type due to the technology. Cheapest, frill free and expensive to run dryers are the vented type dryers.

Heat pump type is very frugal on energy, but expensive to purchase.

I am personally using Electrolux vent type dryer (bought used) + LG Washing machine but the dryer is not stacked on my washer.

If I am not mistaken, Condenser type and Heat Pump is not stackable due to the weight of the dryer itself.

For LG, you can try checking price at ESH SS2, sometimes they have better deals compared to Shopee. I like their service, as during receiving of my washing machine; the pedestal washer came dented (checked while their guy was unboxing). They arranged for replacement without much questions.
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Yes I plan to stack them. I've looked at the LG models and confirmed they are stackable, just not sure should the dryer go below or above. Personally i prefer washing machine below and dryer above
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post Mar 12 2022, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Mar 12 2022, 12:52 PM)
Standard stacking is machine below and dryer on top. If stackable, generally the control panel can be reversed for easier access. However, need to confirm if heat pump type is stackable; if confirmed can then its good
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Should be stackable i think, there's a picture of it being stacked on LG website. If not then its very misleading

https://www.lg.com/my/dryers/lg-vd-h9066ws
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post Mar 14 2022, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(akib_mullen @ Mar 13 2022, 04:13 PM)
You need to check too the washer size. For example if you want to buy LG FV1450S4V, the depth of the washer is only 565 mm while the dryer you show is 690mm. I think it is not stable if you buy that model. For the 15 kg washer than it will be okay. But lg have their own stacker?
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seems like there's a stacking bracket / kit supplied with the washing machine or dryer. Anyone with LG washing machine / dryer can confirm this?

also in this video can see the dryer is sligthly longer than the washing machine as well




anyway i will check again before buying

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Mar 14 2022, 08:34 AM)
Yeah usually Xiaomi or the Chinese brands offer lower prices for electrical items/ electronics. I have a number of Xiaomi products smile.gif

Just curious to know the opinion of others since I'm new to washing machines/ 2 in 1.

I read that 2 in 1 are very slow to complete the task like 4-5 hours? I think a dedicated washer and a dedicated dryer would be much faster?
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yes 2 in 1 is slower

also less durable compared to standalone washing machine and dryer especially the rubber seals... because of constant changes in temprature from cold to hot and its also wet, the rubber tend to degrade faster. I'm not sure about the latest models but this is a story I heard most from relatives and friends using 2 in 1 washer dryer.

for something that you use quite often and involves a lot of moving parts, generally wont recommend to take less established brands eventhough the features sound enticing and its cheap. I personally have used a few Xiaomi products and most of them worked well and well worth the price.... but I would never consider it for a washing machine. Safer to spend more and go for more established brands like LG, Panasonic etc. If anything goes wrong also easier to get support and repair parts


also this is the first review I saw on the page sweat.gif doh.gif

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The washer dryer looks great. Washer function is good. But dryer function spoiled just after using the third time; showing FE or fan error. Support team on shopeee replies msg very fast and asked me to troubleshoot but they still didnt solve the problem. Will edit again once defect has been fixed


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post Apr 15 2022, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Apr 15 2022, 12:11 PM)
I recently bought a 9kg LG FL washer and 9kg LG Heatpump dryer. The dryer comes with the bracket and it can be installed on current LG FL washers. The brackets support 50cm and 60cm washer depth. My 9kg washer is 50cm, The 10.5kg washer is also 50cm. I think those above 10.5kg could be 60cm depth.
The washer does not come with the bracket, only the dryer.
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Thanks for your feedback. That's good to know
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post Jul 20 2022, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jul 20 2022, 02:16 PM)
Everyone has buying electrical experience at Harvey Norman?
Hearsay they got nego system, wonder how it works.

Minta pencerahan from members. Thanks.
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You found a cheaper price elsewhere (other official store / sellers), let them know and they will match or beat the price
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post Jul 27 2022, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Keatsan @ Jul 25 2022, 10:10 PM)
I've emailed LG and got some clarification from their customer service.

Apparently the naming Turbo Wash has been renamed.

LG FV1450S4V - Quick30
LG FV1450S2W - Turbo wash

So it's safe to say Quick30 is the new Turbo Wash function

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i think its slightly different although the purpose of function is supposed to be the same (ie: quick washing)

Turbowash have water jets that spray out from different directions onto the drum. I don't think Quick30 have the same thing....


[EDIT] I read your screenshot again and i think you misunderstood

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Turbo wash is the same program as previously known as Quick 30


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QUOTE(Keatsan @ Jul 27 2022, 02:21 AM)
Ya perhaps I interpreted it wrongly. However, not sure if Turbo Wash is any better or not. Since newer models tend to remove it.

And the newer model is cheaper around RM300 compare to the older model with Turbo Wash

Edit - looking at the newer model https://www.lg.com/my/washers/lg-FV1450S4V can see the Quick30 option.
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The reply from the CS shown in your screenshot seems to imply S2W is the newer model, since Turbo Wash is meant to replace Quick30
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post Aug 3 2022, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(GuyzNexDoor @ Aug 3 2022, 01:02 AM)
Does LG & Samsung wm as good as panasonic?
I prefer Pana but they only hv 11kg as the highest capacity for front load. My current wm is electrolux with 12kg capacity and started to show signs of old age (bought in 2012).

I have shortlisted these 3 models:
LG F2515STGW - 15KG
Samsung WF17T6000GW/FQ - 17KG
Panasonic NA-V11FX2LMY - 11KG (last choice if only LG or Samsung not as good as Pana)

Anyone have bad experience with LG or Samsung wm?
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Go for LG. Their home appliances have better reliability than Samsung
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post Nov 4 2022, 07:14 PM

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Panasonic's new Care+ front load models... seems interesting and a bit confusing actually

The washer only model seems to have a bit of drying function as well

Washer only model
https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...-v10fr1bmy.html


Washer + dryer model
https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...-s106fr1bm.html

wonder whats the difference
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post Nov 9 2022, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Nov 9 2022, 04:29 PM)
Ouch . That sad.. condo yard limited space 😭
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Buy those that are stackable. You can stack dryer on top of washer
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QUOTE(hotNcool @ Nov 10 2022, 11:45 AM)
did you means the lg tower or the twin load washer?
so high price  bangwall.gif
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Not the wash tower.... seperate washer and dryer that can stack on top. Example LG FV-1450S4W and VD-H9066WS
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 4 2023, 02:27 PM)
just wondering what detergent do you use for FL?

i am using dynamo with recommended dosage (sometime even lower) but there's always a leftover sud at the door area
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for FL is always recommended to use low sud powder / detergent like those from Top or Persil

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 4 2023, 09:10 PM)
Top only the green 1 for FL right
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this also

http://topdetergent.com.my/blooming-garden/
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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Apr 27 2023, 11:08 AM)
Hi all,

Wanna ask about the LG Direct Drive technology, if anyone can give some comments on it?

Coz currently I’m considering the following 2 models:

1) LG FV-1409S4W 9kg

2) Toshiba TW-BK105GF4M 9.5kg

The Toshiba one is slightly bigger (9.5kg), and with 2 years warranty vs LG’s 1 year.

But the LG comes with the Direct Drive tech which I read that it’s more efficient and also with lesser moving parts (no need to change the belt). Though the 1 year warranty makes me a bit curious if the reliability will be an issue?

Would appreciate some suggestion on these 2 models, or if there’s any other better options with around 2k budget.

Thanks in advance
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LG have a good reputation for their washing machine. Just take care not to overload it (applies to every washing machine)
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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Apr 27 2023, 04:12 PM)
Thanks for replying.

Talking about overloading, I was told by 1 of the salespersons that front load machines below 10kg are not suitable to wash blankets/bedsheets as it will cause this overloading problem, even though the weight is below the rated capacity. Not sure if this is true?   hmm.gif

He also said that comparing the same kg capacity, front load will have lesser actual capacity than top load. E.g. for 8kg machine, top load can do 8kg but front load is recommended not to exceed 6kg   rclxub.gif

Currently my 8kg top load machine has no problem to wash 2 pcs of blanket per load
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not sure if this is true but I also noticed top load tend to have a bigger drum compared to front load

but that also come with its own cons - more water usage. Though since our water bills are fairly cheap don't think anyone is paying attention to water usage unlike electricity

front load tend to be more gentle on fabrics

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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ May 18 2023, 09:40 AM)
Any recommendation for big size (more than 15kg) FL washer or washer/dryer? Not many brand in the market.. only samsung and LG. Or is it better just take TL since big size?
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LG is more well known for their washing machine


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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ May 18 2023, 07:25 PM)
My existing LG combo 12/8 only lasted 4 years+
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because its a combo. their standalone washers are generally reliable

but I can understand why u reluctant to go back to LG

in that case u got no choice but to get top load. there's really not much brand doing such large capacity front load. At most is 12kg

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