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Alan
post Aug 10 2014, 12:37 PM

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emm... getting panasonic inverter 10kg front load + panasonic inverter heat pump dryer soon (as cost 1k+ cheaper than electorlux).
is it wise to get extended 5years warranty for these 2 stuffs? if the replacement cost (mountings) is not much, then i may opt not to extend the warranty... adding up the cost of extended warranty can be shocking.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 10 2014, 12:37 PM)
emm... getting panasonic inverter 10kg front load + panasonic inverter heat pump dryer soon (as cost 1k+ cheaper than electorlux).
is it wise to get extended 5years warranty for these 2 stuffs? if the replacement cost (mountings) is not much, then i may opt not to extend the warranty... adding up the cost of extended warranty can be  shocking.gif
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It is waste of money and a rip off from the shop.

Do you know that beside they get commission, they have quota to rip more with the extend warranty from the boss. Can't achieve target kena scold. So have to sell hard for the extend warranty.

Try to learn how to search a good product and reliable 1. That help you reduce the risk and save some money.
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post Aug 10 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 10 2014, 12:37 PM)
emm... getting panasonic inverter 10kg front load + panasonic inverter heat pump dryer soon (as cost 1k+ cheaper than electorlux).
is it wise to get extended 5years warranty for these 2 stuffs? if the replacement cost (mountings) is not much, then i may opt not to extend the warranty... adding up the cost of extended warranty can be  shocking.gif
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Wow cool man... i always agree for those used high end tech drool.gif drool.gif

Please feedback the result of pana dryer icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 10 2014, 01:16 PM)
It is waste of money and a rip off from the shop.

Do you know that beside they get commission, they have quota to rip more with the extend warranty from the boss. Can't achieve target kena scold. So have to sell hard for the extend warranty.

Try to learn how to search a good product and reliable 1. That help you reduce the risk and save some money.
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ya... but in case having high chance replacing part (like mounting) within 5years cost >rm300, then... extended warranty may be good unsure.gif. 1st choice is electorlux... but, can only get washer and condenser dryer with similar budget. Bosch... only available in franchise shop where discount is limited, i think KL/Johor may be easy to get...

QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 10 2014, 01:18 PM)
Wow cool man... i always agree for those used high end tech  drool.gif  drool.gif

Please feedback the result of pana dryer  icon_rolleyes.gif
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no la... the panasonic front load is ~rm2400-2600 for this sales season, but then not thinking of rojak the dryer brand (different size when stack up) + no space for vent type dryer + electrolux more expansive (washer + dryer)... Hope the panasonic combo will give me peace of mind.

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 10 2014, 01:32 PM)
ya... but in case having high chance replacing part (like mounting) within 5years cost >rm300, then... extended warranty may be good  unsure.gif.  1st choice is electorlux... but, can only get washer and condenser dryer with similar budget. Bosch... only available in franchise shop where discount is limited, i think KL/Johor may be easy to get...
no la... the panasonic front load is ~rm2400-2600 for this sales season, but then not thinking of rojak the dryer brand (different size when stack up) + no space for vent type dryer + electrolux more expansive (washer + dryer)... Hope the panasonic combo will give me peace of mind.
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Actually panasonic clouldn't find the combo set from dryer & front load washer together.. unless you get samsung 12kg with dryer together or electronlux combo... but the price tag really as high side... for most condenser dryer slightly expansive..




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post Aug 10 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 10 2014, 06:56 AM)
If you wanna see my 2 yrs old electronlux top load 11kg can be free of Ads for you, still moving like new, just the noise of spins will be slightly high and near the pump the water out from inlet to discharge outside drain... Jet spinning still without much stronger vibration like whole unit dance..
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2 years. I'm talking of longer period. And I just trashed the Samsung front load in my villa. Just passed 2 years mark thumbup.gif
What we do is everyday wash 4-6 times.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 10 2014, 04:54 PM)
2 years. I'm talking of longer period. And I just trashed the Samsung front load in my villa. Just passed 2 years mark thumbup.gif
What we do is everyday wash 4-6 times.
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your washer really works like hell of everyday do 4-6 times rclxms.gif

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post Aug 10 2014, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 10 2014, 05:18 PM)
your washer really works like hell of everyday do 4-6 times  rclxms.gif
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That's means it is not up to par on reliability.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 10 2014, 05:31 PM)
That's means it is not up to par on reliability.
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i knew some model really not up to specs, like non vibration reduction, inverter direct drive too.. what you expected rclxms.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 10 2014, 05:56 PM)
i knew some model really not up to specs, like non vibration reduction, inverter direct drive too.. what you expected  rclxms.gif
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A Kimchi reputable brand that you are trying to protect rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 10 2014, 06:00 PM)
A Kimchi reputable brand that you are trying to protect rclxub.gif
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For me all the brand are the same... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif no matter kimchi or jap or german all the same... time life and lifespan or luck is belong to you rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Aug 10 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 10 2014, 12:37 PM)
emm... getting panasonic inverter 10kg front load + panasonic inverter heat pump dryer soon (as cost 1k+ cheaper than electorlux).
is it wise to get extended 5years warranty for these 2 stuffs? if the replacement cost (mountings) is not much, then i may opt not to extend the warranty... adding up the cost of extended warranty can be  shocking.gif
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If getting Panasonic, I'd suggest getting extended warranty as the 10kg model shock absorber quality is questionable. As for reliability, I am using NA140VX3 since 2012 and had one service call this year due to coins stuck in the sump just before the drain pump causing water unable to be pump out and clothes stuck inside the machine due to this. Avoided Electrolux because of this reason and it happened with the Panasonic as well.
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post Aug 10 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Aug 10 2014, 11:00 PM)
If getting Panasonic, I'd suggest getting extended warranty as the 10kg model shock absorber quality is questionable. As for reliability, I am using NA140VX3 since 2012 and had one service call this year due to coins stuck in the sump just before the drain pump causing water unable to be pump out and clothes stuck inside the machine due to this. Avoided Electrolux because of this reason and it happened with the Panasonic as well.
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Wow... how much is the charges for the absorber...? Will ensure no coin enters the washer, thanks alot for the warning! I hvn't experienced coin stuck the pump with my small front load electrolux though...
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post Aug 11 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 10 2014, 11:44 PM)
Wow... how much is the charges for the absorber...? Will ensure no coin enters the washer, thanks alot for the warning! I hvn't experienced coin stuck the pump with my small front load electrolux though...
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I am not sure, my absorber not yet kong. But looking at the machine struggling to balance load at max capacity is enough to proof that the absorber is not robust. There is a reason why the Panasonic is selling much cheaper despite being a 10kg machine smile.gif
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Aug 10 2014, 11:00 PM)
If getting Panasonic, I'd suggest getting extended warranty as the 10kg model shock absorber quality is questionable. As for reliability, I am using NA140VX3 since 2012 and had one service call this year due to coins stuck in the sump just before the drain pump causing water unable to be pump out and clothes stuck inside the machine due to this. Avoided Electrolux because of this reason and it happened with the Panasonic as well.
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Wow lucky i am not consider this model.
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post Aug 11 2014, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 11 2014, 01:07 PM)
Wow lucky i am not consider this model.
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I will be happy if it is able to make it past 6 years with no major trouble. Other than this issue, so far no other problem encountered.
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post Aug 11 2014, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Aug 11 2014, 11:29 AM)
I am not sure, my absorber not yet kong. But looking at the machine struggling to balance load at max capacity is enough to proof that the absorber is not robust. There is a reason why the Panasonic is selling much cheaper despite being a 10kg machine smile.gif
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Maybe the body is relatively small compare to drum, shorter distance for shock absorption (car with shorter mono-tube absorber) hmm.gif
over 6 years would be good enough for me too laugh.gif

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post Aug 11 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 11 2014, 03:59 PM)
Maybe the body is relatively small compare to drum, shorter distance for shock absorption (car with shorter mono-tube absorber)  hmm.gif
over 6 years would be good enough for me too laugh.gif
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Looking at the rate it is going on now, I think we will be able to manage to pull off 6 years of usage from this machine. It washes and rinses well, partially due to the 5 hydroactive spout which sprays either detergent or water to the tumbling clothes during the wash. I have opened this machine up, the PCB board is fully enclosed in a separate casing (like a CPU) away from moisture. The absorber is one of the area where they skimped, and also the door lock mechanism and the door assembly. If you have children or maid who use the machine roughly, then it may fail faster due to this. That said, a similarly priced BOSCH (abt 2.4k) display unit I saw at HN also had problem with door locks. Somehow, feel Hitachi front loader maybe better than the Panasonic.
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QUOTE(Alan @ Aug 11 2014, 03:59 PM)
Maybe the body is relatively small compare to drum, shorter distance for shock absorption (car with shorter mono-tube absorber)  hmm.gif
over 6 years would be good enough for me too laugh.gif
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Panasonic is using direct drive inverter motor right?
For those adsorber was using spring to tie from drum to body casing only.


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post Aug 12 2014, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Aug 11 2014, 06:11 PM)
Looking at the rate it is going on now, I think we will be able to manage to pull off 6 years of usage from this machine. It washes and rinses well, partially due to the 5 hydroactive spout which sprays either detergent or water to the tumbling clothes during the wash. I have opened this machine up, the PCB board is fully enclosed in a separate casing (like a CPU) away from moisture. The absorber is one of the area where they skimped, and also the door lock mechanism and the door assembly. If you have children or maid who use the machine roughly, then it may fail faster due to this. That said, a similarly priced BOSCH (abt 2.4k) display unit I saw at HN also had problem with door locks. Somehow, feel Hitachi front loader maybe better than the Panasonic.
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thumbup.gif nice piece of information! Anyway, like the door handle (outer ring, more convenient) compare to the conventional handle hidden in inner ring.

QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 11 2014, 06:12 PM)
Panasonic is using direct drive inverter motor right?
For those adsorber was using spring to tie from drum to body casing only.
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ic ic, mod the spring rate then brows.gif

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