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dayalan86
post May 24 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ May 24 2021, 11:36 AM)
Got mine FV1409H2W at 2600 and TG2402NTW at 1300 doh.gif
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Good price on the FV1409H2W, I bought my FV1450S4V for RM 2899 if not mistaken but PWP with the TC2402NTV last August for RM 999.

Just realised LG Launched the FV1450S2W with TurboWash. Mine is without the Turbowash or Steam Wrinkle Care but cleaning power is definitely much better compared to our older Panasonic FL.
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post May 26 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ May 25 2021, 01:32 PM)
That showed how damaging FL to clothes cos it is more severe in cleaning.
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Not really, we have been using FL for all I know and I still have clothes from 7 - 8 years ago which I still use with minimal wear (except fading due to sun drying).

There are some clothes which are damaged due to getting caught with open zipper but this is a user error more than anything else.

Whereas, some clothes which were washed by TL when I was renting in Melaka got worn off in just 5 to 6 months. (Causes pilling which is did not happen on when washed in FL)

Some TL are quite rough on clothes and doesn't really clean well...like an angry maid that hates the job so much and just whack the clothes here and there but not really clean sweat.gif

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post Jul 16 2021, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Jul 10 2021, 01:56 PM)
Looking to change my LG washer TL to a FL.

Currently using a dryer from Electrolux.

Is it best to buy a washer from Electrolux or I can use any other brand to do stacking?
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Better to get from same make, if intending to match different brands; for Dryer best if you can try to custom build a rack to fit it on to.

This will avoid the unbalanced load vibration issue.
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Oct 9 2021, 09:11 AM)
Well, I have one that has been doing great for more than 10 years.
Another one at another house also more than 15 years and still running today.

Before this, my grandparents using LG and it couldn't last 8 years.
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Depends, newer Electrolux PCB board tend to fail very fast compared to its Asian Counterpart.

My family have used FL all the way; Elba (1986 to 1999, condemn), then Europa (1999 - 2012, condemn), Panasonic (2012 - 2020, Sold Off in working condition), LG (2020 - present)

LG cleaning performance supersedes all the other washers and machine itself is superior to Panasonic in terms of mechanical functions (less vibration, and distributes load properly for perfect spin; never had unbalanced load error with the LG yet; Out of 10 washes at least 2 washes will have Unbalanced Load error with Panasonic, even from day 1 of getting the machine)

But LG downside is after sales support, Panasonic Service guy was more friendly and approachable compared to LG. Lucky that we did not have warranty calls as of yet for the LG, except in the initial stage, due to wrong installation of the pedestal washer by seller; causing the top machine to vibrate excessively during spin cycle.
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post Oct 13 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Oct 12 2021, 05:11 PM)
Mind to elaborate further on how's the wrong installation that cause excessive vibration? Not balance to ground? hmm.gif
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The feet of the top washer not properly aligned with the bottom pedestal washer.

Once that is done, vibration is much less; but definitely not as good as the main washer being on the floor. Our pedestal washer was delivered with a dent, and seller took it back; so we used it without the pedestal for awhile.


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post Oct 29 2021, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 28 2021, 12:09 PM)
How about Panasonic?
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Pana top loader is ok, we have used Pana FL for 8 years before I sold it to upgrade to LG.

The FL was good but the suspension system and load balancing of Panasonic is not very good, considering these were the early generation FL for Panasonic.
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post Nov 22 2021, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(foongchinboon @ Nov 21 2021, 11:05 AM)
you are right about the statement Pana FL balancing issue.
im having 1 Pana FL now NA-128VG5. damn annoying. Due to this balancing issue it keep retrying to wash again whenever it unable to balance itself. function that u choosen 30min to wash eventually take 1hour.
worst is when u try to wash those towels or blanket(obsorb a lot water) which may cause balancing error come out and stop functioning. sad.gif
personally i won't buy any Pana washing machine anymore.
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Do check the level, Pana's 3D sensor is very sensitive. It needs to be leveled from left to right and back to front; but from front to back, there needs to be a slight decline (as in the water level bubble needs to be off centre, and leaning more towards the back).

Also, it helps when doing towel load, to wash more than 3 at one time.

Was hoping they corrected these issues on later iterations, luckily did not go back to Panasonic during our upgrade; though Pana after sales support person was so much better and helpful compared to the LG one (grumpy and did not seem like he enjoy what he is doing)
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post Dec 7 2021, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(passmaster14 @ Dec 6 2021, 01:07 PM)
hi, total noob with washing machines here. planning to upgrade from an 8kg top load to a front load - what's a capacity that's similar to TL? notice that FL tend to have higher capacity but the drum size is smaller than TL.
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You can go for 10kg FL, FL drum size is smaller due to the washing mechanism (lift and throw clothes into the water, whereas, top Load at max capacity needs to fill the drum with lots of water, as water is the scrubbing medium in a TL; hence the big drum size).

We have been using FL all the way, from a tiny 5kg machine from the 80s and now to LG 10.5kg FL machine.

LG is so far the best we have owned, in terms of wash performance and is much more gentle on our clothes.


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post Dec 8 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(passmaster14 @ Dec 8 2021, 12:36 PM)
thanks for sharing! i'm looking at the 10.5kg FL from LG as well, the FV1450S4W laugh.gif
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I am using this same model since last year, just that "shifted" my house to US address; in order to get it synced with our Google Home.

Mine is FV1450S4V, metallic finish but same model.

Does not come with turbo wash function though (which speeds up wash time)
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post Dec 8 2021, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(kikoyinyee @ Dec 8 2021, 04:24 PM)
Which FL brand is good? Looking for 7-7.5kg with delicate/normal wash function. Thinking either LG or Toshiba. Heard Electrolux spinning sound very loud and noisy. Any suggestion? Thanks
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Toshiba is a fairly new player in FL washing machine (after the licencing take over by Midea);

We are using LG and find it good, especially the 6 motion wash cycle which is proprietary to LG.

Inverter FL washing machine will be quiet, but during spin cycle; there will still be some sound from the drain pump; but not very noisy.
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post Dec 9 2021, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(kikoyinyee @ Dec 8 2021, 05:39 PM)
I see.. I should probably check out the LG 8kg, since the 7kg alr discontinued. Anyway thanks for the tips.
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Just to add, LG & Hitachi FL are Direct Drive Inverter (no belt & pulley system) compared to other Inverter FL.

In practice though, I don't find much difference between the belt & no belt inverters except that the machine depth is smaller for the same load size.

I would personally avoid Panasonic, as it seems that they haven't resolved the unbalanced load issue.
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post Dec 11 2021, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 10 2021, 10:13 PM)
LG direct drive FL is pretty legendary. rclxms.gif
Without the belt and pulley, less headache (due to out of alignment issue then the belt wear out prematurely, change new belt also become frayed in no time, so need to check and replace suspension as well if its belt and pulley) - whereas direct drive can survive longer even if suspension a bit sux.
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Yeah true, and if the machine is equipped with low quality suspension, the belt becomes frayed too often.

Honestly, only our Panasonic machine required two belt replacements (first one was belt slip around 5 years of use, and second one was frayed belt due to bad suspension after 9 years of daily use) ; the other two older FL just died out natural death after 13 years (bearing leak), without any issue on the belt.
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post Dec 21 2021, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Dec 21 2021, 10:14 AM)
is this ok for front load washing machine?  biggrin.gif

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I prefer powder soap, Max Kleen 9 compared to liquid detergent. Somehow, liquid detergent seem to leave behind some kind of residue in the long run inside the washing machine door seal and dispenser area.

So far my machine still smell fresh after using Max Kleen 9 for more than a year now; the older Panasonic had mouldy smell just after 1 - 2 years of using liquid detergent.
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post Dec 23 2021, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 21 2021, 07:16 PM)
I'm having problem with Pana top load, the issue is similar to yours. Sometimes when I only want to use the spin function it keep trying to wash and no matter what I do, I cannot use the spin function without letting it do the washing.
Anyone with similar situation know how to solve the problem?
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You have to distribute the load evenly in the tub (if its towel, make sure its length wise evenly loaded in a circular fashion instead of one ball dump in),

we also have trouble running rinse + spin or spin only on the LG FL after doing manual rinse; it weighs the clothe and runs a deep rinse for 2 hours if it senses the load is heavy.

End up, now just do full wash without soaking, which comes out clean anyways.
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post Jan 20 2022, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(kumario9 @ Jan 20 2022, 04:58 PM)
Guys, need some advise. Recently got funny black stain appearing after done washing. Already clean filter few times, perform drum clean and normal washing without clothes few times but the strange black stain still appears again and again. No idea where this thing coming from.

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Use Tub Clean with cleaner, if still persist, then have to call those washing machine cleaner guys to perform thorough cleaning.

Personally, I would advise against using Softener or Liquid based detergents, as this two will cause residual build up very quickly. Especially if you use both, Softener & Liquid Detergent.
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post Jan 20 2022, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(daus89 @ Jan 13 2022, 03:20 PM)
hai
so which model u bought?
im still in dilemma which model should i go
budget around 2k-3k
should i splash all out on washer first or washer+dryer within that budget.  confused.gif
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How is the dryer performance?
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post Jan 31 2022, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(kimsun @ Jan 31 2022, 12:07 PM)
if u want a reliable front load washer, u can find panasonic front load the model is NA-V11FX2LMY.. very easy to use also and its auto so u can multitask whenever ure doing ur laundry la kan, and speaking about price its not as expensive too. so its easy with the function that it has
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such hardsell..lol

Hope they rectified the load balancing issue and better quality absorbers and also the gap between the plastic drum "beater" and the drum itself, clothes with string somehow get caught and entangled in that. Checked some new Panasonic models, still have this gap on the drum beater.

Other than this agreed it is a good machine, ours worked fine for 8 years despite two times of drain pump failure (user issue, parents & siblings don't empty pocket before throwing into the machine) and belt failure. Final repair was the failed absorber + tattered belting due to the absorber failure, supposed to discard when it came to this but dad insisted to repair; so we sold it off after repair job; since the drain pump was on its way out again. The machine randomly throws error code and stops sometime; so have to closely monitor.

Ours was NA-140VX3 with StainMaster as well, honestly didn't really find it useful and our LG is more superior in cleaning compared to this Panasonic, even without the turbo wash function and any of the touted stainmaster technology. Panasonic comes with the 5 nozzle jet spray, which aids cleaning; whereas, LG comes with 6 motion wash as standard (mimics handwash method) and turbo wash is available only on select models.

That said, the cleaning power of the NA-140VX3 is already good, but the LG FL just betters it; and probably because LG is newer technology as well.

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post Feb 22 2022, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Feb 21 2022, 04:23 PM)
How do you define samsung's reliability problem? what's the main issues with it cos i check with a few parties, no one can give definite answer. Samsung unit is also direct drive inverter right?
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Samsung is not direct drive, Inverter with belt similar to Panasonic, electrolux, Toshiba, Midea.

I went with LG because of the 6 motion wash method and also based on user experience; many had trouble free usage for more than 6 years.

As a matter of preference, I prefer LG's AI over Samsung. LG picks the wash pattern from the 6 motions (scrub, swing, filter, rolling, stepping and tumble) based on the weight of clothes in the drum; whereas, the Samsung picks only the wash cycle based on user usage pattern.

Mine is still going as good as new for 2 years now. Though now our washes are less frequent since end of last year as we are back to work from office. We use it almost daily during the MCO up until Oct last year, now at most about 2 - 3 washes per week.

Washes clean & quick although our standard washer (without dryer) does not come with Turbo Wash function.

Personally timed the machine, and it does finish faster than the indicated time (probably fill time is shorter as we are using water pump); compared to our older Panasonic FL which loves to extend wash time (due to unbalanced load, so it will do extra rinse to compensate for that failure) and finally throw a random error code every once in 20 washes (towards the end of its life with us, it will repeatedly throw pump error code and if left unattended will just happily switch off by itself without finishing the cycle)

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post Feb 25 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(EscapismJ @ Feb 23 2022, 09:34 PM)
Hi. I am looking for 9 to 10kg inverter top load washing machine. I heard that minimum size of washer to wash living room curtain is 10kg, is that true?
may I know among the washers below, which one is better for budget within 1.5k? or there is other better option?

i)Samsung WA10T5260BY/FQ or Samsung WA10R5260BG (kinda confused of the model number) Wobble Technology
ii) LG T2109VS2M (9kg only)
iii) Sharp 10kg Full Auto Washing Machine - ESY1019 (DD inverter)
iv) Sharp 10kg No Hole Washing Machine - ESU106H

Thank you
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Depends on the width and height of the curtain too, some living room have double ceiling height; those most likely can't fit into a 10kg machine.

Even the standard 10 feet x 10 feet height living room curtain, we wash the pcs separately so as not to overload the machine. I am using 10kg FL.
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post Mar 3 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(crusher @ Mar 2 2022, 12:20 AM)
Guys, i have a beko front load washing machine. Anyone know how to clean the wm? I mean after months of usage, I think its very dirty if does not clean it
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Can use those Washing machine washers, but I just buy cheap mouthwash and use that instead.

My machine smells fresher, I run Tub Clean with the Mouth Wash & then rinse the machine.

Wiping down the gasket and inner fold of the gasket helps too, while at it, clean the lint filter.

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