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yamyinhao
post Jul 25 2008, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Jul 25 2008, 05:55 PM)
It really depends on the margin the Japan agent can give you. smile.gif

If Bandai gives the Japan sole agent a 60% margin, then the japan sole agent gives the retailer here 55% margin (provided you have the volume), i think the retailer here can still get 25-30% margin to retail.

Now, the question is, what margin is Litt Takk giving retailers?
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bro suppose i cannot tell more but no problem as i might stop selling gundam and sell handphone

in japan their target for us is 1 month have to purchase 140000 yen which offer 22% off retail price

thant also depend on item .

22% off reatil price this not include shipment , if pay bay paypal add in another 4% , our gov tax 30% then 15%

so there will not much profit better get from littak
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:01 PM

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I was leaning more towards us opening a Low Yat Gunpla Throne Pedophilic Gay Society account with Lik Tak, and us purchasing Gundams for ourselves directly from them. If things work out, we'd start selling to others at whatever price the shops are selling nod.gif
Methinks there is a real opportunity here, provided we don't turn out to be selfish b@st@rds and start a price war.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 25 2008, 05:57 PM)
Well Zio, i am sure the markup recommended by lik tak is quite high, otherwise the other 'grey' sellers won't bother bringing in stocks independantly from japan and hong kong AND undercut the RRP.
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sigh.. grey sellers.. very touchy issue.. as a retailer, u hate them because they practically have minimal running costs... as a consumer, u understand where they come from..


Added on July 25, 2008, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(yamyinhao @ Jul 25 2008, 06:00 PM)
bro suppose i cannot tell more but no problem as i might stop selling gundam and sell handphone

in japan their target for us is 1 month have to purchase 140000 yen  which offer 22% off retail price

thant also depend on item .

22% off reatil price this not include shipment , if pay bay paypal add in another 4% , our gov tax 30% then 15%

so there will not much profit better get from littak
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22%? Lol might as well dont bother with that kind of margins.

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post Jul 25 2008, 06:03 PM

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Grey Seller? that why, in this world, it not only black and white, there always the grey inbetween.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jul 25 2008, 06:03 PM)
Grey Seller? that why, in this world, it not only black and white, there always the grey inbetween.
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Hahaha retail business is a complicated business. tongue.gif sell to cheap, then u die coz cannot cover overhead, sell too expensive, ppl say u cutthroat..

there is never a right price, because there is always someone trying to throw price..
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:06 PM

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22% margin is terrible. 140000 yen is roughly MYR4000. That's around 25-30 gunpla a month, kinda tough. Don't think we have the numbers to form our club then.
What about Likk Tak's terms? I'm kinda serious about this, someone PM me if you have details.

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post Jul 25 2008, 06:06 PM

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Then they need to provide good service for the customer to let them remember
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:07 PM

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ok ok.. i want to do my friday punya kerja... hahahaha... see ya guys later... want to make backup... checking system.. bla bla bla...
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jul 25 2008, 06:06 PM)
Then they need to provide good service for the customer to let them remember
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lol unfortunately not all customers think of good service ma. enough ranting from me!

haha thats in my industry anyway. soemtimes i dont know why they bother earning RM1-2 just for the sake of killing off competitors.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:09 PM

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bro zio

i'm in this gundam business for 4 month frankly speaking not much margine can make

someting profit only Rm5 .

i must sell cheaper than retail shop and i must sell cheaper than LYN seller plus the cost of 1 item is damm expensive

is really tough business unless i sell at retail price


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post Jul 25 2008, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(yamyinhao @ Jul 25 2008, 06:09 PM)
bro zio

i'm in this gundam business for 4 month frankly speaking not much margine can make

someting profit only Rm5  .

i must sell cheaper than retail shop and i must sell cheaper than LYN seller  plus the cost of 1 item is damm expensive

is really tough business unless i sell at retail price
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thats why i say, price war will just kill the industry sooner or later.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Jul 25 2008, 06:08 PM)
lol unfortunately not all customers think of good service ma. enough ranting from me!

haha thats in my industry anyway. soemtimes i dont know why they bother earning RM1-2 just for the sake of killing off competitors.
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that true bro no offend sweat.gif


Added on July 25, 2008, 6:14 pm
QUOTE(zio @ Jul 25 2008, 06:10 PM)
thats why i say, price war will just kill the industry sooner or later.
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yup i kind of admire japan where their retail all over japan sell the same price if different also not much

s'pore also don't have price war but why in Malaysia

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post Jul 25 2008, 06:16 PM

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because we are inherently greedy and have little or no respect for others? Hence the rampant piracy and price cutting. And the selling of freebies. Retailers are now starting to sell SD Sangokuden grunts, which were supposed to be a FREEBIE! I heard that in Singkepoh you get 1 Grunt per box of gunpla.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 25 2008, 06:16 PM)
because we are inherently greedy and have little or no respect for others? Hence the rampant piracy and price cutting. And the selling of freebies. Retailers are now starting to sell SD Sangokuden grunts, which were supposed to be a FREEBIE! I heard that in Singkepoh you get 1 Grunt per box of gunpla.
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Normal ma. They take out all the freebie and sell cheaper. Then later sell the freebie for a profit and people won't know for the better. tongue.gif

It doesnt help that some retailers are also inherently greedy and mark up the prices till sky high. Then when people find out, they all turn to grey importers because they lose faith in local retailers, which means honest ppl like me suffers sad.gif

wahaha see that subtle praise about myself tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 25 2008, 06:16 PM)
because we are inherently greedy and have little or no respect for others? Hence the rampant piracy and price cutting. And the selling of freebies. Retailers are now starting to sell SD Sangokuden grunts, which were supposed to be a FREEBIE! I heard that in Singkepoh you get 1 Grunt per box of gunpla.
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the same go to game console , handphone and so on

as i s'pore we buy 1 psp free alot of thing and cheap but in malaysia those psp stuff like earphone they sell separately. that so bad

that why i sell gundam with cheap price so that everyone can buy no worries , plan to sell phone supportlah bro


Added on July 25, 2008, 6:23 pm
QUOTE(zio @ Jul 25 2008, 06:21 PM)
Normal ma. They take out all the freebie and sell cheaper. Then later sell the freebie for a profit and people won't know for the better. tongue.gif

It doesnt help that some retailers are also inherently greedy and mark up the prices till sky high. Then when people find out, they all turn to grey importers because they lose faith in local retailers, which means honest ppl like me suffers sad.gif

wahaha see that subtle praise about myself tongue.gif
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bro zio don't be sad me the same as u but i believe there are still got nice customer punya icon_rolleyes.gif

sorrylah bro i really don't buy ori DVD or BR , but song i buy ori especially new ages song

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post Jul 25 2008, 06:26 PM

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walao eh... you guys still discuss this...

waiting system check up... 8.5%
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(edan1979 @ Jul 25 2008, 06:26 PM)
walao eh... you guys still discuss this...

waiting system check up... 8.5%
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bro how long yr company will do a system back up
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:33 PM

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Few hour maybe? Hahahaha


Aiyo, this is bolehland mah, as some ppl say, u tak suka, u keluar. This is the land where a cost of buying and maintaining a Mercedes is cheaper than maintaining a local car which suppose to be the luxury car of that local company.
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post Jul 25 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jul 25 2008, 06:33 PM)
Few hour maybe? Hahahaha
Aiyo, this is bolehland mah, as some ppl say, u tak suka, u keluar. This is the land where a cost of buying and maintaining a Mercedes is cheaper than maintaining a local car which suppose to be the luxury car of that local company.
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wonder mantenance for Mer can be cheaper than perdana meh ??? rclxub.gif doh.gif

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post Jul 25 2008, 06:39 PM

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Yes, only in Bolehland, they must have gone on tracking or off road or even gone to a GT race with their Perdana. So they want a merz so they can look even more classy while doing all those activity.

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