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post Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hi Girl & Guys just wanna share in this scenario, if u doubt ur partner got girl/guy without your knowledge then how u force he/she to tell u the truth.

First sure all will ask why will doubt on this?why not belive on ur partner?so on and so on.....

For my case, one day i accidently read his sms, this sms i dunno sent from who. The content is " how ur lips?is it recover?" and at the same time, my bf lips is broken. So, i bring the phone infront of him and ask who sent this to him, and he start explain to me this and that. He say his frend go to nightclub and get to know this girl, so his frend give my bf phone number to her. And so ngam, his frend lips broken also on the same day. So he tell me that, this sms was actually want sent to his frend but not to my bf. Should i believe that? i feel that he is finding an excuse. At nite, there is a party held in his house, so he introduce his frend to me and ask his frend to show his lips, i did not check well whether his lips is really broke or not, because i feel embarrase. Then my bf tell all his frend that i doubt he play girl outside, but all his frend quite and say nothing. Then my bf say again, i can doubt him everything, but cannot doubt him that he play girl outside.

I really dunno how to do,should i trust him?

Or how to force him tell me the truth?

He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself. I dunno he is joking or he is serious. When i seriously ask him, is it true he will find from outside, then he will refuse it and say that he got no money to find from outside.


Guys....please share this with me.....
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you dont want me to find out the truth... would you ?
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you already asked him and that is the answer he gave. if you ask some more he will say you don't trust him... which pretty much is true. if you don't trust him why bother? what will you do if you know the truth if he's really lying to you?
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QUOTE([W�)
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I LOL hard at this tongue.gif

Perhaps u can tell him that "If you don't tell me the truth, then there is NO SEX for u tonite" laugh.gif

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QUOTE(tatoo @ Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM)
Hi Girl & Guys just wanna share in this scenario, if u doubt ur partner got girl/guy without your knowledge then how u force he/she to tell u the truth.

First sure all will ask why will doubt on this?why not belive on ur partner?so on and so on.....

For my case, one day i accidently read his sms, this sms i dunno sent from who. The content is " how ur lips?is it recover?" and at the same time, my bf lips is broken. So, i bring the phone infront of him and ask who sent this to him, and he start explain to me this and that. He say his frend go to nightclub and get to know this girl, so his frend give my bf phone number to her. And so ngam, his frend lips broken also on the same day. So he tell me that, this sms was actually want sent to his frend but not to my bf. Should i believe that? i feel that he is finding an excuse. At nite, there is a party held in his house, so he introduce his frend to me and ask his frend to show his lips, i did not check well whether his lips is really broke or not, because i feel embarrase. Then my bf tell all his frend that i doubt he play girl outside, but all his frend quite and say nothing. Then my bf say again, i can doubt him everything, but cannot doubt him that he play girl outside.

I really dunno how to do,should i trust him?

Or how to force him tell me the truth?

He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself. I dunno he is joking or he is serious. When i seriously ask him, is it true he will find from outside, then he will refuse it and say that he got no money to find from outside.
Guys....please share this with me.....
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Im kinda confused with the 1st part story...

and he will find sex outside if gf refuse? lol wat a loser.

Anyway, how can u "force" someone to tell the truth, when u will only think he is lying watever the answer is unless it comes out as what u expected.
U should believe it until u found concrete proof stating otherwise.
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QUOTE(Vinspire @ Jul 24 2008, 03:52 PM)
I LOL hard at this tongue.gif

Perhaps u can tell him that "If you don't tell me the truth, then there is NO SEX for u tonite" laugh.gif
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he will answer "that is the truth what can i do if you don't believe me? No sex tonight? i'll go find outside..."
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QUOTE(rourou @ Jul 24 2008, 03:53 PM)
he will answer "that is the truth what can i do if you don't believe me?  No sex tonight? i'll go find outside..."
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LOL ... He just told u the truth lok laugh.gif
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i dont think there a way to find the truth and its kinda hard to find the truth also.
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QUOTE(rourou @ Jul 24 2008, 03:53 PM)
he will answer "that is the truth what can i do if you don't believe me?  No sex tonight? i'll go find outside..."
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rourou very free hor? no need work is it?
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QUOTE(tatoo @ Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM)
Hi Girl & Guys just wanna share in this scenario, if u doubt ur partner got girl/guy without your knowledge then how u force he/she to tell u the truth.

First sure all will ask why will doubt on this?why not belive on ur partner?so on and so on.....

For my case, one day i accidently read his sms, this sms i dunno sent from who. The content is " how ur lips?is it recover?" and at the same time, my bf lips is broken. So, i bring the phone infront of him and ask who sent this to him, and he start explain to me this and that. He say his frend go to nightclub and get to know this girl, so his frend give my bf phone number to her. And so ngam, his frend lips broken also on the same day. So he tell me that, this sms was actually want sent to his frend but not to my bf. Should i believe that? i feel that he is finding an excuse. At nite, there is a party held in his house, so he introduce his frend to me and ask his frend to show his lips, i did not check well whether his lips is really broke or not, because i feel embarrase. Then my bf tell all his frend that i doubt he play girl outside, but all his frend quite and say nothing. Then my bf say again, i can doubt him everything, but cannot doubt him that he play girl outside.

I really dunno how to do,should i trust him?

Or how to force him tell me the truth?

He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself. I dunno he is joking or he is serious. When i seriously ask him, is it true he will find from outside, then he will refuse it and say that he got no money to find from outside.
Guys....please share this with me.....
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there is this chinese saying forcing doesnt bring happiness.
They always say its better to find out the truth now then after 10 years.

Your option are as follows

1) Believe him and trust him
2) Take the option to leave him
3) Confront him and tell him if its a lie i will leave you.

I dunno why people can become couple even they dont trust them. Next time learn to do some research on the person before starting a relationship. Stupid ppl
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jul 24 2008, 04:04 PM)
rourou very free hor? no need work is it?
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Agree with what DiGi said. Please follow those steps for your own good. Personally, I think your bf could have come up with a much better story... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(DiGi @ Jul 24 2008, 04:08 PM)
there is this chinese saying forcing doesnt bring happiness.
They always say its better to find out the truth now then after 10 years.

Your option are as follows

1) Believe him and trust him
2) Take the option to leave him
3) Confront him and tell him if its a lie i will leave you.

I dunno why people can become couple even they dont trust them. Next time learn to do some research on the person before starting a relationship. Stupid ppl
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i really believe in this, some people could be trusted, some not

some, chose to tell you a lie to not hurt you, but not realizing that it will hurt you more the later you found out

so, choose wisely on who to trust, and who not to trust

that's the fourth option i gave...lol
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 24 2008, 04:27 PM)
i really believe in this, some people could be trusted, some not

some, chose to tell you a lie to not hurt you, but not realizing that it will hurt you more the later you found out

so, choose wisely on who to trust, and who not to trust

that's the fourth option i gave...lol
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True but do you know there is a way to analyse someone characterisitc? No matter how special how unique the person is he/she is still human. Human have common attitude common action common thinking. They are different in some ways but overall they still act like you. Most relationship failed because people tend to take an action without anaylsing and understand it. If you let your feelings take control you will always face this issue all your life.

Time reveals everything. Before you start a relationship you should get to know your partner friends before
like the chinese saying

Monkey see Monkey do it means how his friends attitude it will influence him too. Its call habit!

You mix with loser you end up 1.
The above is true because i been there done that now i am here .

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TS, what do you think of post #3?
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QUOTE([W?)
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TS, what do you think of post #3?
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This an example its a sign to show your level of maturity.
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QUOTE(DiGi @ Jul 24 2008, 04:36 PM)
You mix with loser you end up 1.
The above is true because i been there done that now i am here .

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and this shows yours whistling.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Jul 24 2008, 03:48 PM)
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QUOTE([W?)
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and this shows yours whistling.gif
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I am just sharing what i master from experience but you in the other hand showing of your childish attitude
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QUOTE(DiGi @ Jul 24 2008, 05:11 PM)
I am just sharing what i master from experience but you in the other hand showing of your childish attitude
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some ppl just dont take jokes. get dump often?
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y broken lips must because of kissing? cannot be when this bf eating with his fren..got guys and girls la..and suddenly he accidentally bit his own lips cz talking while eating..

if you dont trust him,just leave him..dont make yourself suffer.
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QUOTE([W?)
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some ppl just dont take jokes. get dump often?
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You get dump often? Thats the reward of being childish often
HAHAHA you say people cant take joke you cant even take a joke kid. You are the joke


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QUOTE(jianjie @ Jul 24 2008, 05:42 PM)
y broken lips must because of kissing? cannot be when this bf eating with his fren..got guys and girls la..and suddenly he accidentally bit his own lips cz talking while eating..

if you dont trust him,just leave him..dont make yourself suffer.
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Just his story sound suspicious thats wat TS says

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whoaa...pls dun force him if u want to know the truth.
after he telling u so much if u still dun trust him, den let it be or u move on.

if he really cheat on u, he will feel bad on himself.
but wat about if he really tells the true n u keep on dun believe?

if he really like to go out find other, ask him to go.
wat for to keep such a man besides u?
even u manage to stop him from finding other today, u cant prevent him to find other in future.
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so, tell me, how did he and his friend "broke" their lips? doing what?
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QUOTE(faerieC @ Jul 24 2008, 06:02 PM)
whoaa...pls dun force him if u want to know the truth.
after he telling u so much if u still dun trust him, den let it be or u move on.

if he really cheat on u, he will feel bad on himself.
but wat about if he really tells the true n u keep on dun believe?

if he really like to go out find other, ask him to go.
wat for to keep such a man besides u?
even u manage to stop him from finding other today, u cant prevent him to find other in future.
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Why will he feel bad? He find someone better wo . Can satisfy him in bed. Let him go lo. You force him then worse he got no reason to regret at all
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Wad da point forcing him 2 tell the truth??
If u're nt trusting him,even he tell u the truth,thing will nvr change better either..

Trust is always a prob in relationships....
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Break it off with him. Guys who go clubbing WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jul 24 2008, 06:55 PM)
Break it off with him. Guys who go clubbing WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD

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What if your own boyfriend went for clubbing? blink.gif Would you called it off?
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QUOTE(DiGi @ Jul 24 2008, 05:47 PM)
You get dump often? Thats the reward of being childish often
HAHAHA you say people cant take joke you cant even take a joke kid. You are the joke
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jul 24 2008, 07:26 PM)
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Curious shakehead.gif Why 3am and not 4am?
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cry.gif cry and he'll tell u da truth.
jk=)

I think u shud trust him.
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QUOTE(blurrblur @ Jul 24 2008, 07:28 PM)
Curious  shakehead.gif Why 3am and not 4am?
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QUOTE(blurrblur @ Jul 24 2008, 07:05 PM)
What if your own boyfriend went for clubbing?  blink.gif  Would you called it off?
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I would never even start it with him in the 1st place (if I'm a girl).

If love gets in the way and I can't leave my partner, I will brainwash her/him to stop clubbing. No offense to clubbers, but I personally hate the idea of clubbing.

If she/he still doesn't want to change, I will see if I can change myself (the sad truth is I tried and I do not like clubbing).

All also cannot then just break it off lo...

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jul 24 2008, 06:55 PM)
Break it off with him. Guys who go clubbing WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD

Wasai 1 sentence kena a lot of people
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how can you say that to us? shakehead.gif

we go clubbing to enjoy ourselves!
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personally, I would say the ultimatum lies with you. We do not know who is he, how is his personality, his behaviors, does he have a bad record previously or he is good at cheating.

It is up to you, the person who is closest to him, to have the knowledge of who he really is and decide whether he is lying or not lying. Although I may say your feeling towards him may cloud your judgements, chances are you can see some signs from the way he talks and his body language whether he is really telling the truth or not.

yes we all need to trust our partners to a certain extent. But don't let that rule causing you to be ignorant towards the obvious signs he is showing, if your gut feeling tells you something is definitely not right, try to analyze why you have that gut feeling, what actually triggered that.

I don't know whether your bf is joking when he says he will find girls outside if he wants sex. I would have take that statement with a pinch of salt, because I know some guys can really pull lame jokes like this. I personally won't expect guys to have this much guts to actually do it, I might even answer back my bf "oh really ah, if you get AIDS dun blame me wor?", like brush him off in a "I don't care, serves you right if you messed up" attitude.

Lastly, all the best to you and hope you get your answers soon.
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I hate it when men become secretive and hiding something behind. I hope it works out fine!
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QUOTE(Neshimaru @ Jul 25 2008, 02:22 AM)
I hate it when men become secretive and hiding something behind. I hope it works out fine!
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What if the man do it, so that it wouldn't hurt his partner or perhaps he wants to surprise her with surprises and gifts?

Remember being secretive is a burden. Its not easy to be secretive and calm at the same time.
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QUOTE(viviensiu @ Jul 25 2008, 01:37 AM)
personally, I would say the ultimatum lies with you. We do not know who is he, how is his personality, his behaviors, does he have a bad record previously or he is good at cheating.

It is up to you, the person who is closest to him, to have the knowledge of who he really is and decide whether he is lying or not lying. Although I may say your feeling towards him may cloud your judgements, chances are you can see some signs from the way he talks and his body language whether he is really telling the truth or not.

yes we all need to trust our partners to a certain extent. But don't let that rule causing you to be ignorant towards the obvious signs he is showing, if your gut feeling tells you something is definitely not right, try to analyze why you have that gut feeling, what actually triggered that.

I don't know whether your bf is joking when he says he will find girls outside if he wants sex. I would have take that statement with a pinch of salt, because I know some guys can really pull lame jokes like this. I personally won't expect guys to have this much guts to actually do it, I might even answer back my bf "oh really ah, if you get AIDS dun blame me wor?", like brush him off in a "I don't care, serves you right if you messed up" attitude.

Lastly, all the best to you and hope you get your answers soon.
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I do agree with this

" personally, I would say the ultimatum lies with you. We do not know who is he, how is his personality, his behaviors, does he have a bad record previously or he is good at cheating.
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but there is always a way to study someone personality, behaviour " No matter what its painful to break it if its true but if you make the wrong choice you will regret it years to come.


better than some kid trying show off because he is childish i bet no one wants him
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i can tell you guys something as well...

if you want to know your bf/gf better, don't ask them, ask their closest friend

they aren't themselves when they are with you, but not their friends...so yea
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 25 2008, 10:00 AM)
i can tell you guys something as well...

if you want to know your bf/gf better, don't ask them, ask their closest friend

they aren't themselves when they are with you, but not their friends...so yea
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Haha what makes you think they will tell you? Like u said they are closest to your partner not you
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you can ask them indirectly, not directly, like, probably do you think that A likes animals for pets and such?
well, a person who likes animals are considered as kind and caring, so yea...
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so, tell me, how did he and his friend "broke" their lips? doing what?
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No point keep asking if some one has the intention to lie. Love is full of liesssssssss.............. Haha~! Just wanna ask TS... how if u know the truth and how if u dono? Sometimes it is better not knowing than know... but as a human nature... we wan to find out everything in truth. It is so confusing being in a LIVE~! rclxub.gif
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like my favourite saying, some things are better to be left unknown
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QUOTE(enson1985 @ Jul 25 2008, 12:20 PM)
No point keep asking if some one has the intention to lie. Love is full of liesssssssss.............. Haha~! Just wanna ask TS... how if u know the truth and how if u dono? Sometimes it is better not knowing than know... but as a human nature... we wan to find out everything in truth. It is so confusing being in a LIVE~!  rclxub.gif
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i think he means life is confusing...XD, just don't make life difficult for people digi...wink.gif

after all, you are the smarter choice, right?=)

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 25 2008, 02:57 PM)
i think he means life is confusing...XD, just don't make life difficult for people digi...wink.gif

after all, you are the smarter choice, right?=)
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Do you experience it b4?
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anyway, i think TS here wants the answer on how to force guys to be honest, as in force i believe

you can always force one by threatening (there are many ways out there), just don't use those that would put you into jail, then it's ok...haha

you can always take away something you are possibly to give him, i don't encourage you people to think dirty, but yea...maybe i think you get my point

if not, just casually ask him, are you honest with me dear? and if he says yes, just believe him, i guess...

it's seriously hurtful when you begin to doubt someone, but you just gotta let them know that you are doubting them one day or another...at least he or she knows that you begin doubting and would maybe try to fix things before things went out of hand...

warning though, if you really did the above, and fix things, if it work only on verbal basis and not through actions, you might kiss your relationship bye2 as you find out the truth...haha
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 25 2008, 10:54 AM)
you can ask them indirectly, not directly, like, probably do you think that A likes animals for pets and such?
well, a person who likes animals are considered as kind and caring, so yea...
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I have a few friends that likes animals but when threating their friends she is rude and selfish.
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yes i do
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see, there is a truth in where friends knows the real attitude of the person...but whether or not does the person wanna tell is a different storyla...=)
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dun FORCE him.. if he really love you, why want to force.. if he not willing to share the truth, why cares? just dump him.. hahahaha cool2.gif

p/s : unless he so valuable to not be dump, just be patient k. what goes around, comes around.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tatoo @ Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM)
Hi Girl & Guys just wanna share in this scenario, if u doubt ur partner got girl/guy without your knowledge then how u force he/she to tell u the truth.

First sure all will ask why will doubt on this?why not belive on ur partner?so on and so on.....

For my case, one day i accidently read his sms, this sms i dunno sent from who. The content is " how ur lips?is it recover?" and at the same time, my bf lips is broken. So, i bring the phone infront of him and ask who sent this to him, and he start explain to me this and that. He say his frend go to nightclub and get to know this girl, so his frend give my bf phone number to her. And so ngam, his frend lips broken also on the same day. So he tell me that, this sms was actually want sent to his frend but not to my bf. Should i believe that? i feel that he is finding an excuse. At nite, there is a party held in his house, so he introduce his frend to me and ask his frend to show his lips, i did not check well whether his lips is really broke or not, because i feel embarrase. Then my bf tell all his frend that i doubt he play girl outside, but all his frend quite and say nothing. Then my bf say again, i can doubt him everything, but cannot doubt him that he play girl outside.

I really dunno how to do,should i trust him?

Or how to force him tell me the truth?

He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself. I dunno he is joking or he is serious. When i seriously ask him, is it true he will find from outside, then he will refuse it and say that he got no money to find from outside.
Guys....please share this with me.....
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heyz,frankly i been through dis case before.i trusted him alot of his excuses but end up i cant stand it anymore cuz i found da evidence which shut him up.So i choose to broke up.GUESS WAT HE WIF DA GAL noW. wink.gif ..i think u sud noe da truth behind da scene.If he deny it den u sud talk face to face about it.ALL Da BESt =]
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just try to believe in him.. but if he keep on doing thing more suspicious .. just sit down and have a talk =x.. dnt act cold to guys=.= cause they doesn't like it ~ laugh.gif
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just call the b**** and ask who is she !! If she really tat gatal .. u go and scratch for her .. or else , put her number at MIRC sex channel since she like to gatal wif guys ..
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QUOTE(Life's Maniac @ Jul 30 2008, 10:10 PM)
just call the b**** and ask who is she !! If she really tat gatal .. u go and scratch for her .. or else , put her number at MIRC sex channel since she like to gatal wif guys ..
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QUOTE(Life's Maniac @ Jul 30 2008, 10:10 PM)
just call the b**** and ask who is she !! If she really tat gatal .. u go and scratch for her .. or else , put her number at MIRC sex channel since she like to gatal wif guys ..
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wah clap clap!! respect!
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Both of you same type of women?
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Both of you same type of women?
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applaud for a BRILLIANT idea  brows.gif
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QUOTE(viviensiu @ Jul 30 2008, 11:05 PM)
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Saya pun suka cara anda berimaginasi.
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Saya pun suka cara anda berimaginasi.
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most probably ur bf wont tell u anything "if" he is indeed having an affair with someone else . . ask him to change ur sim card with him . . u dont really need to change just to see what his reaction goin to be . . if he acts all defensive then maybe just maybe he is hiding something . .thats what my girl used to do . . if he really doesnt have anything to hide it shouldnt be a problem . .
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I oni can say that u adi starting to leading urself into trouble.
In this case u dont need to ask him anything because u urself adi set up a statement in ur mind which u tell urself that statement is the only truth, which is u belive that theres is a gal caring "ur bf lips" (which for me this is sl small matter...) and u think that might be ur love rival.
So if he tell u something that is diff from ur statement u will not belive him and u will keep on thinking he is lying.
Seriously, continue wit ur statement can lead to break up.
Dont follow my ex path...

Else, trust what he say and distrust him in ur heart.
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trust is a very important aspect in relationships...
the moment you lose it, the moment this relationship breaks as well...

but if your boyfriend really see you so concern about it, maybe he should begin talking about it instead of you keep on querying him...get what i mean?

if you think you can trust him, just tell him that i trust you, but if you have anything you want to tell me about, i'll listen...=)
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 31 2008, 01:03 PM)
trust is a very important aspect in relationships...
the moment you lose it, the moment this relationship breaks as well...
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But how often we ourselves didn't trust our partner? Yes, trust is as important as honesty. If a person misuse the trust, things might sway differently than before.

But the truth is, the moment you lose it, thats the moment the relation crack not break. Sometimes when a trust is lost, the other person knows what to do to convince the other to believe him or her again. Besides, you have to take notice to the situation & setting as well that brought the person to mistrust his or her partner. There are some who mistrust his or her partner over 'silly or unreasonable' reasons. The concern here is not about what mistrust can do, its always about how the other partner is going to convince you to believe in his or her opinion about the given situation. Vic versa applies too.

That's why i believe, as much as listening is a powerful tool to improve communication, it's also wise to give a person a chance to convey what he or she has to say or in other word a 'second chance' but of course the only difference, its our patience limit.
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yup, that is why i added that her boyfriend should have played the role of trying to maintain the relationship without being questioned so many times by her girlfriend...

a crack might lead to a tear and a tear would lead to a break...

and i believe that you've read a lot of john gray's book right pein?
trust is one of the main thing a man would love his woman to give him, right?=)

maybe it's time for his bf to do those 'little things' for his gf...=) to balance up the security back, hmm?wink.gif
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 31 2008, 01:35 PM)
a crack might lead to a tear and a tear would lead to a break...
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Trust certainly is....but how many know how to be responsible over it? John Gray failed to write about this part properly.

Yes a crack will lead to break sooner later. But as much as we know how crack leads to a break, at that moment also the person must know how to patch things up again. A relationship with scars (given that both are still together) actually is a strong relationship because it shows how both willing to patch or forgive their partner's mistake through love (this is just part of the phase in the rebuilding process)

If there are one person out there telling me, how a relationship should be based on trust to be strong, i'm going to tell the naive person, as much as we need trust to build a relationship, lies as well, plays a huge role in rebuilding the relationship. A scar-less relationship is non-existence in this universe. Its the scars that actually determine a person's love. So learn forgive and let go. If you want to judge your partner incapabilities, look throughly in ourselves whether are we incapable to forgive them or not.

As much as i trust my partner, the most important virtue that will test any form of relationship is faith. So show some unwavering faith to your belief or trust in your partner.
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well, some lies are good, some lies are bad, you can keep those good intentions for lying out of the bag, but hiding those bad intentions are...kinda off limits if one were having a plot to severe something

forgiveness in a relationship is also very important, i mean, as i said many times, who doesn't make mistakes in a relationship...=)
as long as one knows how to apologize sincerely, the other should always give a second chance

however, second chances should be earned, not to be given away freely, agree?=)

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 31 2008, 01:58 PM)
well, some lies are good, some lies are bad, you can keep those good intentions for lying out of the bag, but hiding those bad intentions are...kinda off limits if one were having a plot to severe something

forgiveness in a relationship is also very important, i mean, as i said many times, who doesn't make mistakes in a relationship...=)
as long as one knows how to apologize sincerely, the other should always give a second chance

however, second chances should be earned, not to be given away freely, agree?=)
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You've mistook my statements when i mention about patience and faith. If you read it properly, you will get the glimpse. You will understand what im trying to say in my previous posts when you're involved in a relationship.

If you think getting a second chances should be earn before a person seeks forgiveness, trust me, you better count in how calculative you are as well.

You will understand what im trying to convey, when you fully understood the concept of loving yourself. A hint for you, regardless of how big a person's mistake is affecting you, your ability to distinguish the given situation and to forgive your partner without even asking a single bit from her but just to show your love, determines how big is your love towards yourself. In a harsh way to describe this, you will hurt lesser or feel no hurt at all.
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well, i mean that second chances are for those huge things, in this case, i thought that the focus here was...being a two timer...lol, so, yea, my bad if you thought what i was saying is for small things such as an argument over why the phone bill is so high this month...XD

i still believe that, if you truly love someone, you would forgive everything your partner did no matter what...betrayal is up to one to forgive though...

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 31 2008, 02:13 PM)
i still believe that, if you truly love someone, you would forgive everything your partner did no matter what...betrayal is up to one to forgive though...
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It should be like this, if you truly love someone, you will understand his or her pain and empathize him or her, and use your trust to forgive him or her. If you were to ask me, if my partner betrays me, what does that imply to me? of course it means I can't keep her relative to her desires and wants, isn't it? Like i say before again and again, look into yourself thoroughly before others.
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yes, you could put it this way as well, but well, lets put it on the other hand...

problem arises when two have miscommunication, but if only one has it, the partner can always ask to find out

don't wait till it becomes too late to safe...yes, people argue, people quarrel...the best part comes only when one knows how to forgive after an argument...there are always signs before something "big" happens, so...have a look into it and explore the possibilities of what are causing these problems?

your partner might betray you, but it could not be your fault...you can be the best one out there, but if she doesn't know how to appreciate you, that's another story right?...stories like this happen, and i'm not saying either you or me on this case, so, chill...=)

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Put it this way as well,

Can a loving person leaves another loving person? When i say look thoroughly...there are reasons why i meant thoroughly. If you think the other left because the other doesn't know how to appreciate the person, have you ever look whether the person knows how to appreciates the other as well? People don't mistreat others if others don't mistreat them at the first place. Simple as that. Not to mention the collision in the dynamic of interest between two individuals which you have yet to discover.

And yet you still miss the point im making. You often look from the 2nd and 3rd people point of view. Have you ever consider to fill in the 1st person shoes? Or simply put the trouble maker?

And just a note for you, break up is also a process to rebuild a better relationship given that both partner agrees to do so. Harsh? Frankly speaking, there is no such thing 'Don't wait it is too late to safe' unless you are not able to carry the burden and blame.




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well, i said so because there are stories as such, one knows how to appreciate and one doesn't...it's sad, but it happens...well, you could say these as sob stories...but also, from john gray's point of view, most of these are miscommunications

of course when both knows how to appreciate, most likely nothing will happen...but there will be arguments over something, someday, just depends on how one resolves it

break up is also a process to rebuild a better relationship given that both partner agrees to do so
i truly agree with this...

well, relationships are mutual after all right? you can't call a relationship a healthy one if there aren't two people communicating healthily inside, yes?=)
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Jul 31 2008, 02:53 PM)
well, i said so because there are stories as such, one knows how to appreciate and one doesn't...it's sad, but it happens...well, you could say these as sob stories...but also, from john gray's point of view, most of these are miscommunications

of course when both knows how to appreciate, most likely nothing will happen...but there will be arguments over something, someday, just depends on how one resolves it

break up is also a process to rebuild a better relationship given that both partner agrees to do so
i truly agree with this...

well, relationships are mutual after all right? you can't call a relationship a healthy one if there aren't two people communicating healthily inside, yes?=)
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agree to the above as well...=)
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Forget about it to force guy to tell the truth....save ur gas better....if dont trust, then leave lorrr....
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QUOTE(tatoo @ Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM)
if u doubt ur partner got girl/guy without your knowledge then how u force he/she to tell u the truth.

NO... to me is that. If she wanna tell me then let her say. However, if she chose to not letting me know. I will keep that not-to-know stuff. I just hope she will be okay, comfortable if doing so. If she can't afford to hold anymore, i will share my hand to help her at any cost~ wub.gif

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Then my bf say again, i can doubt him everything, but cannot doubt him that he play girl outside.

arh... .... like that you 2 won't be happy together lo. You doubting him, he doubting you to doubt him... why like that leh? blink.gif

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I really dunno how to do,should i trust him?

Well, is it you choose to trust me rather than trusting your lovely boyfriend now? sweat.gif
I think is the best to trust yourself first, then from the point of view of yourself try to "trust" him?!

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Or how to force him tell me the truth?

Reminding me of my ex-gf whom at the early state warning me, dun ever try to cheat her. Once she knows 1 time, we game over. Since then i dare not lie anything. Ever underwear size, how long is my leg hair... she knows everything...

Perhaps you missed the early chance. Keep reminding him not to tell lie... not to tell lie. Like me, I was professionally trained that way in the past~

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He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself. I dunno he is joking or he is serious.

Between you and him is only sex? Nothing else?

Just tell him,... "If you dare, go enjoy yourself~" wub.gif

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When i seriously ask him, is it true he will find from outside, then he will refuse it and say that he got no money to find from outside.

The correct way should be he would not do such even if he is a millionaire. I felt a problem in the communication between you and him... dun you think so?

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hahahahhahahahah easier............
dun say anything.............
take the phone to him..........
and told him that " u got a sms n i accidently read it..........
Soli abt it............
Then u show a sad face but dun cry 1st..........
then u say u tired then at this moments, show ur weapon "TEARS"
tears without sound and no argument................
Then ur bf sure ask u wat happened?
then u jz look at the sms in the phone............
then u say" i jz wan to listen a truth explaination from u, but not a good explaination..
Other than this i dun wan to listen, coz its useless........"
then u jz go to room and sleep..........
hahahhahaaha........ But dun knw works o not............
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With no proof, I doubt u can
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guys got alot of excuses to cover their butt.
recalled my case, i asked my bf tat have he went for any clubs o pubs to celebrate his bday as i cant be with him tat nite as im stayin in hostel n we have curfew at 10pm but he denied, he said he jz stay at home watchin dvd, n non-stop thinkin of me (bull-shiting)

finally end up i found a receipt dated on his bday nite in a nite club after a couple weeks. he so stupid tat he stil keepin tis receipt in his wallet.

n now he is my-ex...cant accept a bf tat lyin to me.

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veritaserum~~
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post Nov 25 2008, 10:07 PM

I'm not a gynaecologist but I'll take a look
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Don't talk to him, hang up with friends,don't pick up the phone
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i think can trust dis guy. u see here. if he wanna lie, find a better excuse also can la. just say a guy fren teasing him for overkill oral sex. no need tell until another girl send him tht sms.
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QUOTE(tatoo @ Jul 24 2008, 12:31 PM)

He always say that, if his partner always reject his sex, and he will find it outside by himself.
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When the serigala in ur bf swells and when the opportunity is right nothing can stop him having those "free dinners" outside...

the irony is...

some girls say something but they dont really mean it or mean something else..

but normally when a guy say somethin it is normally true...

I find it difficult to understand why he haad say such a hurtful thing to you, sex is a very intimate and personal issue and is not something to fool around with.

Let me give u a hint...

this is provided "if" u and ur partner are sexually active (strictly saying I am not implying u r)

Sex is the most honest tool (both partners are strip bare) and no matter how one tries to fake it (whether on the part of the men or woman), by sex alone one can tell if a partner is cheating even how much the partners love each other. not goin to elaborate further.

use it wisely.

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threathen to potong him if he lie!
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TS, u suspecting him = suspecting urself, because u suspecting u ownself giving not enough to him. U have to give him what he wants, if u wan he be ur future husband, what i hope that keep treat ur bf as good as u can, if u not give much to him, who else u wan to give? others? shocking.gif ALL THE BEST rclxms.gif
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like phoebe says : soak his head in hot water and bang it against the table!
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QUOTE(rourou @ Nov 26 2008, 10:14 AM)
like phoebe says : soak his head in hot water and bang it against the table!
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shocking.gif shocking.gif TERRORIST shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(rourou @ Nov 26 2008, 10:14 AM)
like phoebe says : soak his head in hot water and bang it against the table!
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Just release from Guantanamo bay..

How's the tan over there?
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QUOTE(Fruit @ Nov 26 2008, 10:16 AM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif TERRORIST shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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lighten up a little laugh.gif

QUOTE(aurora97 @ Nov 26 2008, 10:18 AM)
Just release from Guantanamo bay..

How's the tan over there?
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all the sun great this time of year!!
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i don't think there is a way to force him to tell the truth or not.the lips case is a bit too coincidental. but i think u should trust him as well.

tell him that u only want him to be honest with u,and look into his eyes
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u tell him... I ald knew the answer no need to tell me anything , this time i forgive you and dont do tat next time............


Liar is usually do a lot of things to let you believe his lies.
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TS, the more suspect about him, he will bcome the more suspect about u too. Within a relationship, if one of them got any suspect, this relationship unable to go on. Coz non-confident relationship. nod.gif


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QUOTE(rourou @ Nov 26 2008, 10:23 AM)
lighten up a little laugh.gif
all the sun great this time of year!!
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shocking.gif TERRORIST WIN rolleyes.gif

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i'm sure he is lying because we are boys and we understand each other.
if i know a girl in pub , do u think i will give my fren number instead of my own number.....
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We guys lie? ...Do we? ...guys?
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veritaserum anyone?
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TS lost in space liao la... no feedback from her.. wonder what happened

 

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