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kenshin
post Sep 8 2008, 03:58 PM

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Looks like you guys are hardcore gym-goers . So i wud like some advice . I juz started gym and was told to have this type of diet and protein. Here goes :

-Diet-
-Workout day-
B/fast - 5 Eggwhites 2 Yorks + 1 slice wholemeal bread
Lunch - Rice + Chicken/Fish + Vege
Tea - A banana or an apple
Pre-workout protein drink ( CN Pure Whey )
Post-workout protein drink ( || )
Dinner - Small amount of rice + Chicken/Fish + Vege
B4 bed - 5 Eggwhites 1 York

-Non-workout day-
Everything minus pre-post protein drink

Good ? And how long does it actually take to see clear results for ABs/Chest . Juz want those abs/chest of actors xD
I workout 4-5 times a week ; 2/3 days , rest a day , 2 days.
Been going for almost amonth now but still cant see any clear results LOL . Any advice ?
I'm middle-sized , 67kg , 172cm .
kenshin
post Sep 9 2008, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 9 2008, 09:38 AM)
Hi kenshin, the answer is very broad. Since thats ur goal, i would advice u to go for bulking first, thats mean u got to eat alot. However, make sure that you eat clean. What i mean is that, try to cut down those high carbs stuff. For me i prefer high fat and high protein but low carbs diet which reduce the chances of putting on too much excessive fat.

Aite, ur diet :
- Breakfast - the amount of the protein that u r taking is fine but the amount of food is not enuf for u to bulk up, try to add in another slice of wholemeal bread and 1 table spoon of peanut butter. Did you forget about ur micro ??? (fish oil, multi vits, vit c ...etc)

lunch - is fine... if u can prefer it by urself, try to cut out the rice... else leave it this way tongue.gif

Tea - u need some protein here, dont use banana, may be some cheese and combine wif some other protein stuff

Pre-workout - dude, u really got to pay attention on this, preworkout meal imo is the time that u can consume carbs but preferably low GI carbs such as OAT. drinking whey during this time is kind of..... not very wise, i would suggest u to go for meat, Milk or anything tat u can think of to made up of 25g+ protein and 50-70g of carbs.

Post- workout - add in 2 table spoon of dextrose (or glucolin) -stimulate insulin spike(google for more infor).

Dinner - for me i will cut down the rice thou, those thing really make me looks like a boar. Else it is fine.

Supper - good enuf.

p/s: make sure all ur meals has an 3 hours interval in between.
I dunno which workout u r doing but however a month is too short to see a clear or massive result, else everybody in this forum will be like ronnie coleman. take a pic of urself now and train for 6 month, by the time u will see some better result instead. Start a journal and keep track on the exercise u do. For exercises and on how to grow may be u can refer to the heal& fitness' sticky.
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Affirmative . I added AST 32X to my daily diet . And yeah , i think i shud go slow on the rice thingie . But what to do , we asians ate rice since birth ; so its hard to suddenly cut it off lol . Whats recommended for tea ? And about pre-workout , should i really eat meat and stuffs like that ? Cuz its like 30 mins b4 workout . Will i b able to digest meat in time ? And thanks for the head-ups wink.gif
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post Sep 9 2008, 10:06 PM

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LOL true true . Yeah 1hour b4 workout shud b good . And im adding AST GABA & Beta-x . And im thinking of adding creatine . Sounds good ? xD But i think thats all i wud take for now . Juz want the shape , so i think protein + gaba + beta-x + creatine is good enuf . What say you ? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(tennis4life @ Sep 10 2008, 12:04 AM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  I TOTALLY AGREE with you man. you can go to a chap fan stall and see skinny people eating a huge MOUNTAIN of rice. but when u go to a steak/ribs restoran all you see is FAT ASS people. NO OFFENCE though.

Before workout eat as much rice also can, Because it provides energy and u can last longer during training, carry more heavy weights. Not like some people dont eat rice, train half way sudah nak MATI !!! whistling.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I LOL xD xD
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post Sep 10 2008, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 10 2008, 09:29 AM)
You have a STACK!???

How many years have you been training?
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STACK ? ONly a month LOL.
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post Sep 10 2008, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 10 2008, 01:07 PM)
Why in the world do you need a stack, after only a month of training???????
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Whats a stack bro ?
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post Sep 10 2008, 02:23 PM

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Ah , want faster results tongue.gif
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post Sep 10 2008, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 02:33 PM)
doh.gif:x:x:x

Those are not somesort of super power pills or powder doh.gif:x:x:x. Wan to get big, diet and training is enuf to make u big. Those other supplement is jus to enhance ur mood and strenght when ur lift get stagnated. Else.. if u go for steroid then diff case but pls love ur balls, dont take it.

Remember, muscle still needs time to develope.
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I fully understand that . But was told by many frens that beta-x and gaba is good . And i'm stopping at this lvl . Meaning , i'll juz continue training and only gonna take this 2 . Aint adding any others since i dont others are neccessary.
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post Sep 10 2008, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 02:43 PM)
Is ok, since those supplement are not cheap so i just try to let u know. Dont worry u still can take those stuff, but make sure u understand the cycle of creatine. Good luck.
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Ah aite thanks mate . Yup forgot bout creatine . My trainer said those 4 , which is CN Pure whey + Gaba + Beta-x + Creatine is good enuf . Others are not necessary . And also workout and diet . And you said creatine is quite important ?
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post Sep 10 2008, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:01 PM)
erm.. i would say those thing will worth ur money hehe. Some of the site even mention, if u drink enuf water, it acts like creatine as well since it jus push lots of water into ur muscle cell and makes u look big but soft. i have not been taking creatine for more than 3 months (deload for 1 mth, tats mean lift without creatine for 2 mth) and still i can improve from 1 workout to another.
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Cool . I get your point mate . So now that i'm done with those supplements , wont b adding anymore for the time being , i can now concentrate 100% on my workout and diet xD Wish me luck biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2008, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:13 PM)
For sure and enjoy. wink.gif
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Thanks and same goes to you mate wink.gif BTW , ur from KL ?
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post Sep 10 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:27 PM)
i m a sarawakian but working in kl, stay in pj.
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Nice. PJ as in Petaling Jaya ? Cuz i need someone from KL to help me about routes LOL . I'm frm Penang but i'm going to KL end of this month for some project.
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post Sep 10 2008, 03:42 PM

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Putrajaya JPN . And planning to stay in TunesHotel.
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post Sep 10 2008, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:43 PM)
Adui, dude, putrajaya is very far from kl eh. i been there once only wif my boss lol. try to ask oth forumer, may be they know the way.
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Alamakz . LOL . KK . Thanks anyway.
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post Oct 18 2008, 09:44 PM

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Yo ppls , any recommended low fat milk to intro ? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Oct 19 2008, 08:56 PM)
my preference are good day and HL tongue.gif.
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HL it is then biggrin.gif Thanks thumbup.gif

 

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