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TSllllll
post Jul 15 2008, 02:48 PM, updated 18y ago

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hi there all my fellow forumer.


im here to warn all my fellow forumer not to buy 3G iphone from the guy from Mudah.com as a thread shown in here recently

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/742179

i contacted this seller in Mudah http://www.mudah.com.my/vi/1122001.htm?ca=9_s

smsd him and told him intrested to buy many unit from him, and he quote me a good price which is RM3400 per unit, amazing price. yawn.gif

he even told me if after 1 week he can sell RM3200 to me per unit whistling.gif

when i ask him.....

can COD kah?im in KL


he said cant he's in kuching...ok fine

and i ask can i ask someone face to face trade with him in Kuching ah?

he said cant also...full payment must be made in order to PRE-Order for me , he even mentioned many people want to buy from him la...bla bla...

this is what he put in his thread

I have 5 units iphone 3G with 16GB. This unit just come from USA. No contract and no lock, you just insert your card and can be run. Be hurry, i sold out another 15 units within 2 days. Now last 5 units. All white color.

( He mentioned he sold 15 units and last 5 unit available at start, then when i ask to COD he said full payment la , Pre-order la....

so clearly he is lying...

as a seller myself for many years.... i warn u guys not to buy from him... im asking u guys to judge by yourself and im advising u guys based on my experiences through years of online trading

here's the calculation:

he mentioned he can sell RM3200


After termination of contract and bla bla bla iphone actually cost around minimum USD850 which is around RM2805. and postage around RM100, insurance RM50 , Kastam RM250(duit Kopi) etc....total up is RM3200( which he claim can sell me RM3200...his profit is ZERO)

he also keep mention full payment first. as far i know serious seller just require deposit , and he claim his iphone is UNLOCKED......as far i know dev team not yet launch for iphone 2.0 unlock...so i think he's better than dev team

Mod please do not remove my thread , i would like to warn all my fellow forumer


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post Jul 15 2008, 03:09 PM

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but is it the same with another member posting up. why not merge both topic then?
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post Jul 15 2008, 04:12 PM

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also.... this ebay fella who is selling a 8gb iphone 3g in "white" (oh.... may be a new model... rclxms.gif ) and using the same photos...

[the link is here]


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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jul 15 2008, 03:09 PM)
but is it the same with another member posting up. why not merge both topic then?
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its not the same person...that 1 is china fake iphone...this one is 3G iphone

QUOTE(raycol97 @ Jul 15 2008, 04:12 PM)
also.... this ebay fella who is selling a 8gb iphone 3g in "white" (oh.... may be a new model...  rclxms.gif ) and using the same photos...

[the link is here]
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wahhahaha 8GB WHITE ...yes same guy with same phone number, nice finding... brows.gif

i think if he got 8GB white 3GB Apple store gonna close down... doh.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 4:58 pmmore finding...

the forumer name Mattj claimed he bought 1 unit from him....i doubt it...so i have done some checking...

basically this Matjj is "brother " of the 3G iphone seller hahahaa

this is his auction

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=726486&hl=

Used HTC Tytn II

Full package (box, CD, casing, headset, cable, manual, 1gb Microsd)

RM1800 negotiable

Until October 2008

COD

Kuching, Sarawak

PM or SMS to 0128881969

8 months

Very Good condition, screen protected, used in casing

Getting HTC Diamond <<<<<< remember this

and his brother


selling same model wo....

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=260243040958

u know what...both phone number also from sarawak with comes with 8.......hahahhaaa....coincidence? rclxms.gif

wan more?see carefully what i found


his brother also got sell HTC diamond wo

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=260249985169 thumbup.gif coincidence again?

i lol'ed


This post has been edited by llllll: Jul 15 2008, 05:02 PM
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post Jul 15 2008, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(llllll @ Jul 15 2008, 04:48 PM)
its not the same person...that 1 is china fake iphone...this one is 3G iphone
wahhahaha 8GB WHITE ...yes same guy with same phone number, nice finding... brows.gif

i think if he got 8GB white 3GB Apple store gonna close down... doh.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 4:58 pmmore finding...

the forumer name Mattj claimed he bought 1 unit from him....i doubt it...so i have done some checking...

basically this Matjj is "brother " of the 3G iphone seller hahahaa

this is his auction

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=726486&hl=

Used HTC Tytn II

Full package (box, CD, casing, headset, cable, manual, 1gb Microsd)

RM1800 negotiable

Until October 2008

COD

Kuching, Sarawak

PM or SMS to 0128881969

8 months

Very Good condition, screen protected, used in casing

Getting HTC Diamond

and his brother


selling same model wo....

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=260243040958

u know what...both phone number also from sarawak with comes with 8.......hahahhaaa....coincidence?  rclxms.gif
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Friend,

Just don't simply call people a liar or a conman, I can sue you. Although I'm from Sarawak it doesn't mean that we like to cheat. I just happen to know that guy coz I bought the 1st gen iphone from him (read first before you simply make accusation). The deal was fine, no issue. I am also a gadget lover and do have the penchant to upgrade and change my phones whenever I like. Just don't simply start a thread calling people a conman or what. If you wanna know more about me take it offline, via PM. Do not badmouth me in a common forum. I'm a regular on Lowyat, Lelong and MyPdacafe and I used my real phone numbers in my deals, so be careful of your accusation. Mod pls take action.

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post Jul 15 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(MattJ @ Jul 15 2008, 05:05 PM)
Friend,

Just don't simply call people a liar or a conman, I can sue you. Although I'm from Sarawak it doesn't mean that we like to cheat. I just happen to know that guy coz I bought the 1st gen iphone from him (read first before you simply make accusation). The deal was fine, no issue. I am also a gadget lover and do have the penchant to upgrade and change my phones whenever I like. Just don't simply start a thread calling people a conman or what. If you wanna know more about me take it offline, via PM. Do not badmouth me in a common forum. I'm  a regular on Lowyat, Lelong and MyPdacafe and I used my real phone numbers in my deals, so be careful of your accusation. Mod pls take action.
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did i put any liar or conman on ur name? i lol'ed...i think u need to wear glass to see clearly...

im only accusing person who sell 8GB white iphone laugh.gif

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post Jul 15 2008, 05:29 PM

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You accused me by saying I'm the brother of the guy who sell the 3g iphone. BTW, I know that guy, he is a seller as well, I deal with him, so far so good. I'm not sure whether he delivers the 3g iphone as he stated in his webpage but from previous experience with him, I'm ok.
What I don not like is you create a thread saying things that you have no evidence or proof and simply accuse people. That is not a way to warn other forummers, it is simply a way of getting attention to your thread. You can warn people but not by simply pointing fingers saying A or B is a conman unless you have proof or evidence.
more finding...

the forumer name Mattj claimed he bought 1 unit from him....i doubt it...so i have done some checking...

basically this Matjj is "brother " of the 3G iphone seller hahahaa (Maybe you should be wearing glasses - What does this sentence means? You are accusing me as well of collaborating)

this is his auction

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=726486&hl=

Used HTC Tytn II

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post Jul 15 2008, 05:33 PM

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Calm down people, and to the accuser, give the benefit of doubt lah. Innocent till proven guilty. Even if the reluctance and the general conduct of that seller seemed suspicious, a simple COD with him can prove his truthfulness.

How do you feel if I accuse of lying outright with superficial evidence? Calm down.
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post Jul 15 2008, 05:46 PM

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String,

I'm not emo, but this guy simply accused people and dragging me into it. Come on, don't just simply get attention by saying ppl like this like that, check facts properly. If in doubt, call me, my hp no is there. Still if you feeel like cross checking me, check with other forumers as well who have been in contact via PM or SMS with me, such as Laskarcinta. This is one reason why I hate participating in forums where some ppl who simply do not belong to these places, no respect at all for others.
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post Jul 15 2008, 05:50 PM

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I think we can officially bring this thread to the Dispute Desk or something? Or there isn't a case?
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I understand what you're getting at, MattJ. I get that a lot too, my name is Stringfellow remember, I'm a magnet for accusations and foul play. tongue.gif

Both side have points, the seller has suspicious selling conduct, but the accuser also should not drag innocent people into the whole mess.
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post Jul 15 2008, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 15 2008, 05:50 PM)
I understand what you're getting at, MattJ. I get that a lot too, my name is Stringfellow remember, I'm a magnet for accusations and foul play. tongue.gif

Both side have points, the seller has suspicious selling conduct, but the accuser also should not drag innocent people into the whole mess.
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yes you are right...advised noted my fellow friend tongue.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(MattJ @ Jul 15 2008, 05:29 PM)
You accused me by saying I'm the brother of the guy who sell the 3g iphone. BTW, I know that guy, he is a seller as well, I deal with him, so far so good. I'm not sure whether he delivers the 3g iphone as he stated in his webpage but from previous experience with him, I'm ok.
What I don not like is you create a thread saying things that you have no evidence or proof and simply accuse people. That is not a way to warn other forummers, it is simply a way of getting attention to your thread. You can warn people but not by simply pointing fingers saying A or B is a conman unless you have proof or evidence.
more finding...

the forumer name Mattj claimed he bought 1 unit from him....i doubt it...so i have done some checking...

basically this Matjj is "brother " of the 3G iphone seller hahahaa (Maybe you should be wearing glasses - What does this sentence means? You are accusing me as well of collaborating)

this is his auction

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=726486&hl=

Used HTC Tytn II
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i guess u didnt read properly... laugh.gif dont angry lar im ur Brother too laugh.gif ... rclxms.gif ....sell me iphone 3G 8GB grey colour can ma? i buy 20 unit

This post has been edited by llllll: Jul 15 2008, 06:12 PM
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post Jul 15 2008, 08:59 PM

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I feel like inside LYN Trade zone helpdesk thread...
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post Jul 15 2008, 09:03 PM

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Now you're being sarcastic. As per my earlier post I mentioned that I only bought the 1st gen iphone from him and the deal was ok that time last February for the 8gb 1st gen iphone. I never mentioned anything about buying a 3g iphone from him.
Bro, u are the one who did not read properly b4 you start ranting about ppl conning others. Next time, do your research first, read carefully before concluding that I'm a conman bro for that matter. I find it very silly explaining to you who don't even understand plain and simple English
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thanks for the info, i can warn my friend as almost all my member wanna get this 3g iphone icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 15 2008, 09:36 PM

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mudah.com.my is memang dodgy.


old users here would have heard me posting my encounters there before.
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that place is still new... and free to advertise.. so conman have a new spot to set up traps and baits as not all people are LYNs... and non of them aware of the danger of cheap iphone as most of them still thinking... USD199 iphone 3g mah...
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Hope some of my idiot friend wont get in the trap..USD199 is always in their mind..
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 PM)
Hope some of my idiot friend wont get in the trap..USD199 is always in their mind..
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after all this, they still belive the 199 dirt trick?
hmm u friend really innocent tongue.gif
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sadly... people sometimes need to bang the wall and realize that was hurt... especially when ppl already told him " a wall in front. beware."



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