I've just been conned by this guy.beware all paypal buyer.
he contacted me thru my email 2 days ago, said he want to sell me paypal with good rates.
then he asked for my ym id so he can chat with me, so i give it to him.
yes, i did put a new topic[wtb] paypal fund here. he said he know frm there i want to buy paypal fund.
but he said he couldnt put a new thread here because he sell the fund to someone here (paypal seller) and told me not to tell this guy that he want to sell to me. so he keep on pushing me to transfer money.

and today i stupidly did that. i transfer him RM389 for USD129 that he promised to give me. but once i transfer the money, he off his fone. i manage to get his details frm the phone number .

Name : KENT
paypal account : teddymy85@yahoo.com
phone no: 0166173869

NAME : NG SZE KIAT
IC : 770830145665
ADDRESS : BLK 70-10-03, SRI SABAH FLAT, JALAN CHERAS, 56100 KL
HP NO : 016 617 3869

HE also give ambank and maybank account number , but someone else name

name :yong wei kent
ambank account : 0760010045464

name : chang may kee
maybank account : 164146476555

I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED FIRST, BEFORE I DID THIS AND I LEARNED MY LESSON HERE. I dont want any other people got cheat by this guy too.

Move to Trade Zone Dispute Section.


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1. What make you so sure that this guy is Ng Sze Kiat?

2. What is the nick used and thread topic.

WTH..I just found out i've been conned too. I transferred RM900 for USD300 to chang may key yesterday but still couldnt get the USD funds today. I know I should have checked first too. I will upload some evidence later.

The story is, yesterday i was in my grandma's house, so i didnt have an internet connection. He called me up and claim he is playbook and i stupidly trusted him. i know i am stupid. please don't flame me. he says he need cash urgently so he is selling it at 3.0 rate instead of his 3.40 rate. so i went to the bank and transferred money to him. i called him later that night and he said he is waiting pc at cc to transfer the USD funds to me. HE asked me to check it today but i still didnt receive the funds. I tried calling him many times but he offed his phone.

Name: Chang May Key
Account Number: 164146476555
H/P NUmber: 016-6173869

Is there anything i can do? I know i am hopeless. again, dont flame me pls. i know i am stupid already.


Here are some evidence. I dunno whether this is called evidence anot. Please advise me. haihz

My maybank online transaction


My paypal transaction history from june 13 to jly 13 2008


This post has been edited by BabyBeez: Jul 14 2008, 02:57 AM

Report it to police. Police have the authority to trace the bank account holder name and address with the bank and from there find out the relationship between the conman and the account holder. If the conman use ATM card to withdraw money, his image might be captured by the surveillance camera.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Jul 13 2008, 04:20 PM

can you please guide me what information i need to report it to police?

thats a lot of money! Report to police. But my mum report this case to police buy malaysia police don't do anything. So try your luck

omg cant believe im not the only person!

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Added on July 13, 2008, 4:28 pmi've called Digi and get the details frm this hp number. thats why i know his name and details.
i dont think he have any thread in lyn but he claims he know playbook as well.

This post has been edited by ilovevs: Jul 13 2008, 04:28 PM

Print out all the email , messaging(SMS and YM/MSN) involved, a copy of transaction slip/payment proof. all the details of his that you have, and a copy of the sales topic(if have any).

I would suggest you guys to lodge it together, or refer each other police report reference number after that.

Sorry to hear that sis.. Anyway, go to police and a report within this few days and don't forget to bring evidence along. Hope you get your money back.

Hi - A moderator has just informed me regarding this thread.

I understand that someone has been claiming to be me / claiming a friendship with me. Please do get in touch with me if you need any assistance / if you think I can be of help.

For your information, I do not recognize the names of the persons where the funds were supposedly sent to.
p.s. As previously noted to everyone who has dealt with me before, I only deal with transfers to my CIMB account. I only communicate via LYN - I do not use Skype, Instant Messenger services, etc. Do not trust anyone who uses those methods claiming to be me.

oh my. sorry to hear that. although i've never deal with you, but i know you're are reputable dealer. hope you can get your money back. report to police and hunt that ass down.

Dear ilovevs,

I have been doing some investigation, and it appears this Ng Sze Kiat has a history of fraudulent behaviour. Please refer to the following thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/585654/+720

Post #725 has similar details, including a listed office address?

Okay, so here are the detailed story. At first he called me and claim that he is playbook from lowyat.net. That was around 10.30 p.m. if not mistaken. He said he saw my thread finding for paypal funds so he is willing to trade with me at 3.0 rate. He then further explained to me that he is a reputable seller, traded over dunno how many USD(forget ad), dunno how many successful tradelist and he said i can track him down in lowyat.net. (So sorry playbook, I know he used you). So, i told him that i can only trade with him tml (that means today, sunday July 13th) because im at my grandma's house and there's no internet connection. But he insisted the trade to be today cause tml he cant trade(cant really hear wat he said). So he asked me whether got any maybank cash deposit around my area or cc. So i said i see first and then he said okay. So i hang up lor. then i sms him and said ok lor. I go cc now.

Then he replied "CONFIRM? OK I WAIT U.THANKS MISS".


So i said "yup. confirm"
(sorry.i deleted the sent messages. cos no space ad)

He: i go cc and wait you


then i didnt reply him lor. then around 10.49pm he sms me again ask me to call him.



cause i was driving i didnt call him. then he send another sms "u still there?i going to cc.don ffk.


So, when i reached home, i called him lor, so he said he is driving to cc now, got traffic jam so he need longer time. he ask me whether i reached cc ad anot. then he ask whether i'm in a rush a not? so i told him yea la but i haven reach the cc. i told him i'm in rush cos i purposely go out cc just to transfer funds for him. So, he suggest that i transfer the funds to him first then he transfer the paypal funds once he reached cc. When i was on the phone with him, i heard someone else calling him. means he got another phone la.i heard the nokia ringtone. haha. i kinda heard their conversation la. it was a girl i think they are transferring funds as well.not sure bout that. i heard the gal say in cantonese la " i transfer the money to u ad la". then the rest not so clear.

then he sms me his maybank acc number.


then i called him to tell him to wait cos the cc i went to was full so i have to wait for computer.
(i call him 1st time he didnt pick up)

he told me his maybank account dont have maybank2u. so his fren is in maybank waiting for me to bank in then he check the maybank balance from atm. he said his fren is leaving at 12. so he told me must bank in before 12. so i went to find for another cc lo. then he keep calling me asking me whether i found a cc a not cos his fren waiting.


then finally i found a cc and i told him lor.after transferring everything, i called him and tell him and then he said okay. So, i waited for 20 mins liddat. then i need to go home lo cos my grandma worried. then i called him whether he transfered the funds to me ad he said he waiting for pc at cc wor. he will transfer once he got a pc. so he ask me check tml la. so i go to sleep lor.

then today, he sms me again at 12.34 p.m. he asked me "hey..you got online now?
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Then i replied "nope..why?"

Then he replied "ur paypal and the remaining cash ma.." ( I'm supposed to deal with him USD300 on saturday and USD120 on sunday)


Then i relied "I'm busy right now..can deal later?"


Then he replied "u sms me later"


So, when i finally got home back from my grandma's house. the first thing i did was check my paypal account. and it was 0.00 balance. means that fella didnt transfer to me. So i called him many many times but she offed his phone. I then realised something was not right so i tried searching for his name in lowyat.net. Then i found his name at this thread. Haihz. I know i am stupid. Why i so stupid. Now i feel so heartache.

*This is roughly the sequence of wat happened. I dont really remember all the details.

**My Maybank and Paypal screenshots have been moved to post#3, cos cannot upload too many images here.

To CHANG MAY KEY or whoever you are. I will not let you go on this.




This post has been edited by BabyBeez: Jul 14 2008, 02:46 AM

You can report police just to make you feel better or either find him yourself or else you will never get your money back/

With the address given try go find this person

I am glad Digi implemented the rule where they had to have all numbers registered. Looks like this person has the exact same identity and address as a previous scam artist.

I was thinking if this chang may key is really ng sze kiat @ strongbaby, he scammed me and ilovevs to collect funds in order to be able to refund to the people he scammed.

Ng sze keat is storngbaby... are u sure u he is the same guy?

or he uses other ppl's name to fool u?

lol he's being sued and is bankrupt

indeed it is him... now he use another method to con ppl

wtf this kind of ppl

Dear iloveyouvs and babybeez, I found a very good recap at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/595162

You can use some of the facts there to base your template police report tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Playbook: Jul 13 2008, 09:50 PM

ilovevs have checked with digi and the details she got from digi are as posted on post#1 And she got to know that the number was just registered yesterday. His name, ic number and address totally match. except his name is ng sze kiat here and ng sze keat for strongbaby.

Just a question here, is that the conman confirm are strongbaby?
if u related to anyone that registering hp,
u probably just need to fill the form,
where u can always fill what info u wan.

whereby the info could be fake one,
or using other people info.

This post has been edited by cschun86: Jul 14 2008, 06:20 AM

Note: You will need your actual IC to register with DIGI.

I predict this is going to snowball. I am planning to check out his place with others.

Ilovevs and Babybeez, have put in links to where he stays at.

This post has been edited by Playbook: Jul 14 2008, 07:45 AM


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playbook, thanks for all the info u give.
we will make the police report by today.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...4&hl=strongbaby

do some reading on strongbaby's case first..

was a rather big case. and as far as i know he was paying off everyone on that list..

get the police report and check the person whom registered with the number and the bank accounts.

Better check properly. This may be a con + id fraud case...

1. Try to contact strongbaby aka Ng Sze Keat and confirm first.. (TE/Mod maybe can help in contact with him)
2. Lodge a con case report and also id fraudlent report with strongbaby as well.
3. Go to bank and check for the identity.

I can only advise the remaining things after all the victim did what i've advised up there.

Erm...They give out details just like that?
where is the "all information is private" thingy?

Yeah WackyAngel, i was wondering the exact same thing.
How can Digi reveal customer's information WITHOUT a police report?

Wacky-Angel & Spikeee,
Your queries are valid re: revelation of his info by DIGI.

However, the important issue here is the fact that someone committed criminal fraud.
Let us not get caught up with how his personal information got divulged by a telco. After the fraud is resolved, and the refunds are addressed, we can separately deal with the second instance.

The important thing is to now catch this fraudster. Someone may claim that someone else stole Ng's IC to set up this DIGI account. Let me tell you this, there's no way he could have figured out that his customer information would have been revealed by DIGI - it's hidden. If you ask for it, DIGI will not release it to you. So, this fraudster did not expect that someone would gain access to his personal DIGI account information.

This fraudster has a demonstrated pattern of fraud. I will not let this rest, even though he did not defraud me. I will not let this rest, not until he has reimbursed in full to the victims. And I will certainly not let this rest, not till I see justice done in full.

So far, I have personally contacted everyone on the Strongbaby thread to start building information on where the funds are being sent from. In about half an hour's time, the police report will be filed by the 2 victims in this case. I will also be going over to this guy's place sometime this week. There are also other actions I am going to suggest to the victims to take with the banking and police authorities. This matter will not rest until the victims see justice served.

This post has been edited by Playbook: Jul 14 2008, 01:24 PM

Well said, playbook.

The thing is, i can't place my finger on it, but something doesn't seem right. something is misconstrued but i can't place my finger on it.
i don't know sze keat personally, but from what i've talked to him before this... ergh i can't place my finger on it.

his english isnt that bad?

better double check first because the last time i work for digi road show. which is a year ago.
we dont need the IC to register the number ..
we just need to put in any name n detail into the machine to register.
wat i means is since Strongbaby's detail got all over here ppl can easily get the detail n register 1.
lastly im not siding strongbaby.
sry for the bad english
peace

i think it would be wise to refer this to strongbaby as this strongly relate to his reputation (as you all know how tarnish his reputation is. i don't think he dare to lie anymore or get his number and use a private id to call him).
i almost dealt with strongbaby on a PSP Slim but i did not bank in as i wanted to wait for him to clear his old list.
base on my experience with him, he is a fast dealer.
i just asked about the details (which he ignored) and he gave me his banking details wanting me to pay ASAP.
no number, no calls, no YM/IM/anything at all.
i heard people say that if you pay RM10 to Digi,
you may retrieve all the data of a particular number.
i may not know how true is this cause i personally never try before,
but my gf's mom did (at one point where she thinks she is having a bf. she was Form2 and her family is strict).

Just to correct this point above. Legally, it shouldn't be possible. There is no way you can legally extract a customer's personal information from DIGI without the sanctioning of the authorities at the very least (e.g. court order). Even the police cannot just call up and ask for it. The police would have to get an extract of the official report over to DIGI, and it would have to be approved by DIGI's internal legal counsel before such information is released. There is no reason for anyone to expect that his/her information would be accessed at all. After this case is resolved, we can deal separately with the matter of how the customer information is accessed.

The important thing here is this - if you are aware of the names of the people in the bank accounts used for the fraud (or if you aware of someone who knows about it), and if you would like to assist the victims in this case, please help. Please inform the victims i.e. ilovevs and babybeez. Please help the victims seek a fair and complete reimbursement of their losses.

The bank accounts involved in the fraud are:

Name : Yong Wei Kent
Ambank account : 0760010045464

Name : Chang May Key / Chang May Kee
Maybank account : 164146476555

If you know of the people above, they may be unsuspecting participants in this fraud. Please help the victims get in touch with them.

Stopping fraud (any fraud) is not a matter for one, or two, but a matter for the whole community. The actions we take today, will help stop the fraud of tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Playbook: Jul 14 2008, 10:50 PM

playbook what u said is what you know. But in life is who you know. My friend got someone contact just by knowing the manager inside. Its like 3 click and all details reveal.

that may be true. but its also illegal do that. your friend can and will lose his job for doing that. how are you going to explain to the police how you got the details without getting your friend in trouble. goodluck.

next time think a little before talking. it helps.

Aspire2006, thanks for the comment. As I mentioned before, the issue present here is not how the information was accessed.

The issue at hand is that criminal fraud was committed by someone to deprive 2 people of their hard-earned cash. If you can help the parties recover the funds, that's much appreciated.

I have already received a lot of supportive PMs from the aggrieved parties on the strongbaby thread, so I am very glad to know that the LYN community at large is very supportive of helping out and combating fraud.

If you do have any positive suggestions, or information that the 2 victims can act upon, that would be much appreciated.

p.s. aspire2006, what kyLL said is correct. Would suggest you do not mention your friend's name to anyone.
Please also note that I had qualified the statement consistently in all my postings:
1. "Legally, it shouldn't be possible."
2. "There is no way you can legally extract a customer's personal information from DIGI without the sanctioning of the authorities."
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe I have never made a blanket statement that it's not possible.

This post has been edited by Playbook: Jul 15 2008, 06:03 AM

well,
maybe because it was her mom so she has the right to do so?
plus, her mom is holding her ic when she was in form2.
lol.
anyway,
i think bank accounts should be easier to identify as you need ic when you are applying for an account.
oh and there is a thread in this corner as well regarding about Paypal.
almost the same issue but the fella did not run away instead he cleared most of it already.
maybe you could ask them how they do it?
i mean,
they have been contacting Paypal and so on.
got screen shots as well.
hope it helps!

found the thread.
click here.

This post has been edited by zhinsara: Jul 15 2008, 01:57 PM

I don't think your culprit is strongbaby, I got no idea how come he got his name in. He wouldn't scam you for such a small amount after what he's gone through. I think someone just tried to be funny and its probably this chang may kee guy.

oii...
no need to fight on how they got teh info...
just help TS!!!