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bearbearhong
post Feb 26 2009, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 26 2009, 09:26 AM)
errr..this discounts are always there no?!....  wink.gif
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one may noticed even big time developers also coming out with those offers...eg.pay 5% only, interest free during construction, free spa/loan fee package...etc

i personally find that the developers are coping hard with the quiet market..

as for subsale market, i think ppl tend to wait and see if price dropping..and i think price for subsale market may be reduced to woo buyers. Before the fuel price increased last year july, the subsale market prices are pretty high where owner tend to follow "wiling seller willing buyer" concept, putting up price that they think "acceptable" for themselves NOT the market.


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post Mar 4 2009, 11:59 AM

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dear all, just to share


http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...47&sec=business


as highlighted earlier, i believe these are the effect of "willing seller willing buyer" concept practiced by the market during prime time, sellers pushed their property price higher and higher to stir the market...now thats the time to bite the bullet...
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post Mar 4 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Feb 27 2009, 11:16 AM)
Yes, indeed developers are coping hard.  And it's about time they are put in this situation.  They have been complacent for far too long.  Some hotshot like SPSetia introduces a 5/95 concept - and our mouth is drooling.  It should have been an industry norm and practice in the first place! If they don't have the proper capital strength - too bad - out they go - bankcrupt for all I care.  The industry should be more darwinian and competitive.

Well, I see your point on sub-sales.....however, I actually expect sub-sales price to be flattish or slightly increasing in landed residential areas......prime areas - i think the price will actually trend upwards.  In general, banks would tend to shy away from the "new to bank" market or under con market.  We expect the sub-sale market to actually be more competitive as banks would want to compete in this area.  Why? The quality of the collateral is good, customers in this segment may be of better credit quality, and the customers themselves may be motivated to refinance.

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yes, i always believe in landed property even though it may not be first choice for property investor...

i am of the view that the prices for landed property in coming months may be stagnant rather then slight increase due to the fear of commitment by the ppl in purchasing property. In fact, sub sale cases are reducing in Banks since Jan ..

I am currently have an offer to purchase a leasehold double storey terrace house at a slight below market price but undetermine if i shud proceed for the purchase and same time keep my existing freehold single storey .... rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(Pai @ Mar 4 2009, 12:04 PM)
too bad the 30% drop only applies for KLCC props.............else would have gone in bare to snap good assets at 30% off.  tongue.gif
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hi sir, for those with cash on hand, it may be good time to grab KLCC property and keep it for few years...i believe the market will bounce back by then just like 1997.

I had frens who got dirt cheap KLCC area property back in 1997 and the return was tremendous after 2000.

if only i have d $... cry.gif

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post Mar 4 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 4 2009, 04:32 PM)
If u look at the demographics and pyschographics of the people staying in landed prime prop's - they are in league on their own.  History and time has proven that areas like TTDI and BU will not fall by quantums like 25% or more.  Frankly, I do not even forsee a drop of 10% or more in those areas - at a worst case scenario. 

In fact - the prices there will only be stagnant or slightly increasing.  Why? The residents there have high bargaining power.  They are free from any encumbrances.  They mostly buy for their own stay.  There are hardly, if not no motivated sellers.  TTDI probably has the highest retiree composition in the country.

sub sale cases have been reducing in Banks since July last year. My point is this - subsales volume could trickle in prime landed residential areas - and the prices would still hold.

Give u one example - One DSLH which I am eying in Athinahapan 5 in TTDI is still holding at 780K.  He has put the house in the market for close to 8 months now.  And he has refused to budget even RM 1 on the price, despite getting serious offers from buyers.  Secondly, and this is the best part - he has not bothered to rent it out.  It's still very empty inside.
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Agreed. those owners have the holding power, as u mentioned they are in league on their own and property may be free from encumbrances and highly not their 1 and only property.

I believe not every genuine seller will hv the patient to wait for his ideal price to close deal unless property is tenanted/occupied. I respect the seller you met and wondering if the house is vacant and how patient he has been to maintain it... can he really hold on for another few months to make it 1 yr unoccupied vacant house... sweat.gif






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post Jul 11 2010, 09:19 PM

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my recent plan to upgrade to a bigger house prompt me to check out this section...

i doubt prices of Property may drop, in particular for landed residential property, it will only be stagnant/slow down. I have been scouting for a landed property at this particular housing area for 2 yrs, from the price of RM380k+ in end 2008, the price in market now has risen to RM480k-Rm500k+ sweat.gif

I was little regret of not grabbing one in yr ago, and been cursing that the owner/agent is manupulating the prices...but the scary fact is that there are willing buyer and transacted price in market proven the hikes!

i have given up "wait and see" attitude, dont really bother if the price of the property will drop or whatsoever, I think the longer i wait, the lesser chance for me to own such a property. I have planned to keep my existing landed property too, for i believe, it will be a white elephant when my baby reach her 20s...

the low FD rate, current bank offered loan rate has help property investment grow, and flat 5% property gain tax too the culprit... bbut that have victimised those who genuinely looking for a residential property for own stay...

my humble point of view...




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