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Financial Is property going to drop?, General property price discussion

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Jason
post Jan 17 2011, 11:39 AM

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if property continue rising, nobody would be able to afford them.. and when nobody buys..prices have to normalize itself to be in line with the buying power..right..thats what i think anyway.

the funny thing is, land is NOT scarce in Malaysia, we're not Hong Kong and Singapore. so what's the big hoohaa anyway.
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post Jan 19 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 17 2011, 03:40 PM)
I totally dun agree with the statement, urbanization seems growing in accelerated speed everywhere, city's prime land in the whole world are scarce, there is no way back for land price to drop in prime area...looking at the upcoming high rise buildings in the pipeline (about 200 super tall buildings in Klang Valleys), landed property in KV will deem to be super super hot in future yawn.gif
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i will only say, look at google maps in the urban areas and draw your own conclusion as to whether land is scarce in Malaysia in comparison to HK & SG. there's still empty land, even within walking distance of KLCC <15mins. our definition of scarce may be different.

all i'm saying is that prices need to normalize itself to levels that are sustainable. thats all smile.gif normalize != drop.
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post Jan 19 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Jan 19 2011, 04:08 PM)
it is not jacked up by seller. seller naturally demand high price. the valuer is lagging behind the market to protect the banks. valuer value lower does not mean that is the market value
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seller can demand whatever price they want, it doesn't reflect market price.
market price is not determined by asking prices.

valuer value lower does not mean it is the market price as well, but it is definitely a "safe" benchmark. if you pay at valuation price or below valuation price, consider it a fair trade or a good deal, if its above valuation price..then tread with caution...
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post Jan 19 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Jan 19 2011, 04:28 PM)
It's already cooling down slowly.

1. Rental yield unable to catch up with property price.
2. Not enough expats to rent high end units.
3. Property values are higher than bank values, thus making selling props harder (LTV + under valued)
4. More projects and endless supply coming in (esp so called MK and KLCC area until 2015)

BBB mode will only continue for the rich, while the middle and low income will monitor and watch. This trend will continue until a point where the rich will no longer able to suck up so many units, and the market stagnant for a time. It only needs to take a little "trigger" to mess up the trend. Check on the transactions made after the LTV for sub-sale props. Thats why investors now whack developers units instead of sub-sale. Because it's no point to buy overvalued props, and rental yield can't cover. Pushing up the price further will only draw more hopeful buyers away.
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good points. but isn't developer units also overpriced? with the exception of the recent Summer Suites by Sunrise.
Look at Eve Suites and the asking price versus the location.

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