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post Jan 10 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Jan 10 2011, 12:20 PM)
Dear all,

Happy Anniversary of 100 pages, after 5% RPGT and 70 Loan Margin implemented, the price still not yet drop, some location has stagnant and some location still up up up, some new launching still in good respond.
Happy new year 2011............
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post Jan 10 2011, 02:33 PM

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upcoming developments.. can share the projects ? smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2011, 04:05 PM

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Investor Group
- telling others to start investing on props.
- hope that it keeps BBB then they can get more players in and speculate with them and then earn more[when more players is in, then the props that they're holding got more % to let off and then buy again/stop buying when they know its at the peak]
- as teoanne said, right property that has high demand can withstand any downturn. Yes this is correct but don't think ALL players are so accurate + lucky to get the right props.

wait bubble crash Group
- telling others to wait for bubbles.
- hope that no more BBB then the investor/speculator [who's not cash rich] can't hold on any longer and then boom.

Clearly i'm in the wait bubble crash Group as the new props is TOO expensive for me. sad.gif
haih.. kinda hard to survive in bolehland.. salary increase sikit..
everything else increase alot.. prop so freaking expensive .. aha.. just tak tahan govn oni.. came here and express a lil bit......
been reading this thread for 2 month ++
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post Jan 10 2011, 05:25 PM

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cherroy > agreed on ur statement.. its not that i'll wait forever till it reli drop 70% ++
i'm just waiting for the properties to go down till its affordable for everyone else like me.. so maybe down by 20~25% will be good.. cus in just 2~3 years period.. the properties rise till more than 40%
its just crazy..
i wouldn't want the economy to crash..I agreed on "you would even fear about job security when the economy is bad"

If keeps on increasing.. i believe one day we'll walk the same path as japan/hk(few generation to buy 1 props).. unless govn reli can change bolehland to high income country.. which i dun think can achieve easily tongue.gif
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post Jan 10 2011, 05:44 PM

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ok.. u r rite..
but still .. can't afford it.. T_T
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post Jan 12 2011, 09:28 AM

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if BLR increase, repayment to the bank monthly also will increase rite?
shiit !
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post Jan 12 2011, 09:51 AM

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if blr increase more, it'll only affect those ppl who sapu more props with less cash oni..
and most of the props they're holding generate -ve income.. unless they're able to sell their props smile.gif then diff case already
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Jan 13 2011, 10:44 AM)
If gov seriously want to control escalating properties price, the most effective way to fence off speculator is always RPGT.
I advocate RPGT very much.
It hurt nobody at all, except affecting the greed one only.
I strongly agree as well..
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post Jan 13 2011, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 13 2011, 04:24 PM)
Buy when interest is lowest with moderate price, not highest interest with
lower price


Added on January 13, 2011, 4:25 pm
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emm.. high interest rate wont be forever..
dun think the interest rate will stay in high forever

which one u'll choose ?

interest is lowest with moderate price
u buy 500k > interest let say 3%

interest is highest with lower price
u buy 400k > interest 6%

the interest might change from time to time..but the properties value will remain the same [i mean the total amount we need to pay to bank, not the price for the properties as each year it'll increase]
its not applicable for those speculator smile.gif cus they just want to goreng nie.. so.. if for gorengers.. they'll choose the first one
as for me who wanted to get a house to stay (my first home ~~~ ) i'll choose no 2 XD

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post Jan 14 2011, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(godutch @ Jan 14 2011, 10:34 AM)
a 50% hike in BLR for a house owner (buying for own stay) should be manageable, just spend less, shop less to mitigate the impact.

But i think 50% hike could be substantial for those who refinanced their homes over the past two years to the max to withdraw money and bought other properties to flip. So i think the adjustment will definitely dependent on the holding power of the so called speculators/investors.

meanwhile, with neighhouring countries increasing interest rates (unexpectedly) there seems to be more pressure for Malaysia now smile.gif
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Agreed smile.gif
we're aiming to speculators but not aiming for those who buy for their own stay smile.gif
get more properties ~ smile.gif

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post Jan 17 2011, 02:53 PM

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I wonder whats the salary of middle income group nowadays ?
;p

5k~10k > middle income group ?
cus i think the previous middle income group is being dragged to low income group ~

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post Jan 18 2011, 12:00 PM

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i thought sporeans early early already entered the market?
and other country's investor also entered the market long time ago ?
if not where got so many buyers to sapu all the units ? b4 launch already says 60% sold..
then after few days/weeks fully sold etc etc ? malaysian ppl that kaya meh..

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post Jan 18 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Jan 18 2011, 03:49 PM)
As you said early buyers.
And where does the money come from exactly? From late buyers.  Someone has to lose in this game.
Agreed tongue.gif i think those who join the party late.. will get affected.. hehe.. there won't be winner for everyone
those who invest properties in 2008/2009 will mostly become a winner.. and they must know when to quit the game.. wait for crash then join back~
so if want invest.. do alot alot of research and pray to god for more lucks yeah rclxms.gif whistling.gif

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post Jan 19 2011, 01:35 PM

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LOL !!! 3k salary is a high income range.. great
what a joke !
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post Jan 19 2011, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 19 2011, 03:27 PM)
haha same here bro! cheers and good luck to us... flex.gif
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same same.. how are we going to get a house when the seller trying to sell the house higher than the market value ?
we have to fork our at least 20~40k .. not yet include the 10% for that properties..
its like we have to fork out 10% of the properties + 20~40k price jacked up by the seller.. sad.gif
was looking on subsale as well...
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post Jan 19 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 19 2011, 04:33 PM)
good points. but isn't developer units also overpriced? with the exception of the recent Summer Suites by Sunrise.
Look at Eve Suites and the asking price versus the location.
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Agreed.. new unit launch.. the price is like rclxub.gif
thats why we're looking on subsale.. old condo.. can't even afford to buy a new one..
thanks to developer..
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post Jan 24 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(jib3000 @ Jan 24 2011, 10:48 AM)
Guys,

Information sharing - Azizi Ali in the Star last friday.

http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyGuide/Finance/9663/0/0
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post Jan 26 2011, 05:41 PM

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median household income of 6k > means hubby and wife total salary ?
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post Jan 26 2011, 05:49 PM

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That would put our properties in the 'severely unafforable' category

nice one.. but still.. others will keep on saying " bolehland properties still very cheap compare to foreigners.. "
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post Feb 21 2011, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Feb 21 2011, 02:19 PM)
Either way in my opinion, the bubble is about to burst.
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