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post Sep 11 2013, 10:55 PM

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maybe more advise can be seek from this thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/741069
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post Apr 21 2015, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 21 2015, 07:28 PM)
rclxms.gif  thanks for the reply....still wondering how they are going to verify the ownership....
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hmm.gif if it is this request, then I guess have to go there and show them the originals before collection icon_rolleyes.gif

http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/files/CRR%2...ktober_2011.pdf






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post Dec 16 2019, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Dec 16 2019, 03:20 PM)
I know this. I would like to know how is the reporting when it comes to limit for charge card, namely amex charge card as the card does not carry a pre-set spending limit.
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had never used a charge card before,....just asking about this non preset spending limit clause, is it really no limits, like let says you can theoretically buy a BMW car with it?

read this.....
"Unlike credit cards, charge cards do not have a credit limit.
Now, it is not to say that you can charge whatever you like to the card.
There will still be a “Credit Line” or some call it “Shadow Credit Limit” just like credit card’s Credit Limit.
You can always call Customer Service and ask them what is your Credit Line amount, so that you won’t be in a face losing situation when your transaction is declined because you have gone beyond the Credit Line assigned to you."

https://genxgenygenz.com/2016/01/05/introdu...by-genx-cc-101/

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post Dec 16 2019, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Dec 16 2019, 08:24 PM)
not sure about BMW but I've charged 9 suites class Singapore Airlines flight tickets to London for our family trip and there was no problem there. The shadow credit limit makes sense as there should be some element of control. I call it my magic card because it has never failed me so far!
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hmm.gif will this shadow limits be used in the CCRIS report?

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post Dec 17 2019, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Dec 17 2019, 01:39 PM)
Thats one of my questions which remains unanswered!
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yes, unanswered....
unless those that really knew and came to tell or
continue to wait for answers to this currently unanswered question or
maybe perhaps take some action for those
1) had the charge card
2) really wanted to know
3) go seek out a CCRIS report, see if there is any stated limits on the charge card
4) call up the charge card company to ask about the "shadow limits"
5) compare and hopefully the answer can be found.....

just my thought before going for my afternoon coffee fix smile.gif

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post Jan 26 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Jan 26 2020, 01:30 PM)
Got the answer already as I went to print my CCRIS report.

The limit reported to BNM for AMEX charge card with "no preset spending limit" is the exact amount of the outstanding balance that you carry. For example lets say you use your amex charge card for RM 300k that month, then the limit will appear as RM 300k.

However, I was told this doesn't have impact on one's credit utilisation ratio as it is a charge card and balances are always settled in full unlike credit card. So in evaluating your credit utilisation ratio, the usage on AMEX charge card is omitted altogether.
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Thks for updating latest info....
So if the usage on Amex charge card is omitted altogether when evaluating one credit utilisation ratio.... Then Amex charge card outstanding balance will be omitted in the evaluation too.....??
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post Jan 26 2020, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Jan 26 2020, 05:28 PM)
This is what I gathered from someone I know who works in credit processing. He said it definitely does not bring a negative implication and affect the credit utilisation ratio because if it does, it will pull down the scoring greatly as it appears as if one has utilised 100% of the credit limit offered.
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thanks for the input again....
hmm.gif that means Charge card is not counted in the scoring.........in CCRIS,
means another "loophole" for people that wanted to be more "in debted" devil.gif

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post Jan 26 2020, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Jan 26 2020, 05:47 PM)
Its akin to using debit card as you must have the amount that you spend as you don't have the option to drag the payment over a period of time.
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charge card cannot drag payment for a long period?
even imposed interest charges too cannot delay payment?
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post Jan 26 2020, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(chesterst @ Jan 26 2020, 06:33 PM)
Cannot. If don't settle in full its considered delinquent / default already.
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post Apr 10 2020, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Fragden @ Apr 10 2020, 11:16 AM)
Will the bad records (no payments for x months) be deleted from ccris system after certain number of years?

I read in the US they will delete after 7 years
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reading of this FAQs...
i think they will be placed under "Special Attention Account" in the ccris....
http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/faqs.html
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post Apr 11 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Fragden @ Apr 11 2020, 05:43 PM)
Is there any compelling reason for banks to sue for bankruptcy for credit card debt less than 30k since it is a unsecured credit?
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according to this....
According to the Malaysian law, you can become bankrupt when the outstanding sum involved is RM30000 (previously it was RM10000) or more with a default period of six months or more.
Defaulting on credit card payment is among one of the ways to be bankrupt.

http://creditcardlighthouse.blogspot.com/2...n-malaysia.html

thus CC debt can be sued for bankruptcy.....btw, the bankruptcy threshold had been raised to RM50000 from RM30000

17. Is there a minimum amount owed for a person to be a bankrupt?
Yes, the creditor may file for bankruptcy action against you if the debt owing is more than RM 50,000.
http://www.mdi.gov.my/index.php/faqs/bankruptcy

There Is Time Limitations To Your Debt
In Malaysia, under the Limitation Act 1953, there is a time limit in which a creditor can take legal action against a debtor..
This means companies must initiate legal claims within a certain time frame.
After that time frame has passed, a borrower is no longer obliged to repay their debt.
https://www.comparehero.my/debt-management/...-debt-collector

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post Jun 29 2020, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 29 2020, 07:27 PM)
i am sure, just few days/weeks ago, there was a post by a forummer mentioning that me got the ccris report thru emails...
just not sure where that post is now....
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looks like this....
QUOTE(,Jun 24 2020, 07:19 AM)
where to get latest ccris report except BNM?
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QUOTE(,Jun 24 2020, 12:36 PM)
no need take leave one... i just email them then they will email me the CCRIS report and i call them to get password to unzip the file  brows.gif  brows.gif
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AKPK, debt issue, anyone got a question to ask them?
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/876712/+2520

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post Jul 12 2020, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Blackblade0303 @ Jul 12 2020, 10:20 PM)
Hi sifus, wanna ask, if I have a few installments using my CC (pay on time every month), will it affect my CTOS or CCRISS score?
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if you are a good repayment master, then i think it should not be a concern/matters.
bad repayment master will have bad track records.
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post Nov 11 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(luvjim @ Nov 11 2021, 10:49 AM)
hi all, why is it difficult to apply for loan if never own a credit card?
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most probably they need to have a way to assess your credit repayment track records....CC track records can be easily available to most people that wanted to get a loan.
btw,..NEVER owned a Credit card may not be the only reason that caused the difficulty in getting a loan.
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post Feb 20 2022, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 19 2022, 12:31 AM)
This is amazing news, thanks for sharing. I always wanted to register but 2 failed visit to bnm, akpk branches closed down due to covid, and not having a postpaid bill to my name to do it online...

Will try and report back 😆

Edit: Registration was smooth, only need IC and a quick bank transfer, settled in 5 minute and can see my CCRIS report anytime now. Awesome improvement.
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thanks for updating....


hmm.gif if a person does not have internet banking,.... hmm.gif how to transfer the RM1? (can another person do the bank transfer on his (applicant)'s behalf?)
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post Feb 27 2022, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Feb 27 2022, 02:05 AM)
I dont really think how to get his salary is a problem loll

I'm more concern on my credit report for future loan / banking / tax issue if i'm TS.
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jason00221 which one you will be more concerned of right now?
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post Jun 23 2022, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Jun 23 2022, 01:33 PM)
Oh, i think you misunderstand my meaning.
When i said settle is settle the whole PTPTN amount, not the past due amount.

And i requested close account since i have fully paid them and release letter already provided.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 23 2022, 01:41 PM)
👌Oops, My bad....
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Just out of curiosity,... I found this
https://howtofinancemoney.com/check-ccris-r...ng%20the%20loan.


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