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nemoexcel
post Oct 16 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Sep 24 2010, 11:27 AM)
i used to get a warning letter twice from MARA due to not paying according to schedule & have outstanding balance,

however, after i received 2nd warning letter , i have paid all outstanding balance and follow their payment schedule.

it's a study loan.

do u guys think, CCRIS will record it ? thanks  notworthy.gif

for CTOS need to go to their place too, i thought can check it online sweat.gif
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MARA's loan is not included in CCRIS..... Only FI are participating in CCRIS... no worries bro... if cant sleep at night, go drop by BNM and use their kiosk to get yr CCRIS report icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on October 16, 2010, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Sep 21 2010, 05:23 PM)
bro they update when the statement date is out or after pymt due date?
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It is updated every month on a fixed determined date (by individual banks). Not statement date nor due date. However, the record shows in CCRIS usually is 2 months back.

example : Since now is Oct2010, CCRIS's record probably shows Aug's balances.... However, if u were outstanding in Sept2010, and you thought by making full payment now (Oct2010), and expect Sept's record to be cleared (when it is updated later), then false hope... coz they will still update Sept being overdue (coz payment was made in Oct).. i believe this is fair ... coz its accuracy of historic data they are concerned about, not current overdue/non-overdue status..

But, good news for those who are recently overdue... example : Sept & October overdue, if you go apply for a loan/cc , chances are your application will be APPROVED nod.gif .. coz as far as CCRIS is concerned, u r still up to date (based on Aug's record)

Hope these helps

This post has been edited by nemoexcel: Oct 16 2010, 05:16 PM
nemoexcel
post Oct 30 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(ericyeoh @ Oct 28 2010, 02:14 PM)
For everyone has loan with bank, pls pay accordingly.. when u r in ccris, it is really very difficult for you to apply car loan nowadays.

Lately I found out I have these problems, although I have settled all the loans including housing loan, car loan and cc in mid of the month, all banks still rejected my application even until now still no one can tell me the exact reason they rejected my application.

Plan to go to BNM and CTOS to check the status and don know can apply after 6 months or even longer, ie, 1 year.

Now I really very in trouble as my old car seems going to breakdown anytime, I may have no car or spend much to repair the old car (12 yrs old car) which not worth to repair.  I already cancelled all credit cards and fully settle, now using debit mastercard...

Just an experience to share with everyone here.  Better monitor or else, you will have the same problem like me sad.gif
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after settling your loans will not help you to get the loan approved. CCRIS is NOT CTOS. It was put in place to have an idea of the CHARACTER of the loan/card applicant. If you are a lousy paymaster, then just because you wanted the loan to be approved, you settle your loan... Your character will STILL BE A LOUSY paymaster.... thus, having the CCRIS with a 12months record will show your change in character if you manage to consistantly pay-up...

another thing to note is that, some ppl are mistaken.... if there was 1 time long ago they were overdue for 2 months (or more)(for whatever reason), then from then onwards, consistantly pay EVERY MONTH... but what they are paying is for 2 month's ago's installment. So eventough they pay every month, they are still overdue by 2 months all the way until now..... hence, you must settle those 2 months in arrears.


ppl,

pls dont blame the banks for this... as you borrowed their $$ in the 1st place, or bought that Swiss watch, or that Gucci handbag..... they PAID for it... isnt it fair for you to pay-up when its due? smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


nemoexcel
post Nov 1 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(ericyeoh @ Nov 1 2010, 09:31 PM)
I agree with you Nemoexcel.  I was a lousy paymaster before.

However, finally there was a bank has offered me the car loan ... Huh.. Think I am so lucky.

This is a new start for me and will monitor my payment on time in future to avoid this happen again, this is really a good lesson for me.

Today read newspaper, there is a statement which is very true for sharing:-

Income - expenses = savings  (wrong)
Income - savings = expenses  (correct)
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Congrats bro... some banks are hungry for biz, so they can be lenient a bit... good for u rclxms.gif

yes, u r correct,,,, so save more $$ for rainy days!!
nemoexcel
post Nov 2 2010, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(DeZeque @ Nov 2 2010, 07:38 AM)
minor correction... once u've fully settled ur loans (and the banks update CCRIS of course)... it would not appear in ur credit report anymore.... the 12 months conduct of account is only shown for active accounts i.e. still outstanding... e.g. u have 10 instalments in arrears and u make a payments worth 11 instalments the following months... then it will show than u do not have any arrears but the last 12 months conduct will still show that u have 10 arrears... 9 arrears... etc...
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smile.gif u're not being clear here bro ..

1) fully settled loans (do u mean the installments in arrears? or the whole outstanding balance? ). If fully settled the outstanding balance, the loan will be cancelled and not appear in CCRIS totally. This applies to homeloans, car loans, personal loans.. However, to remove the entire credit card record frm CCRIS, you need to cancel the card after full settlement...

2) your "it will not appear in ur credit report anymore" is also misleading... if u're talking about installments (which u said make 11 installments for a 10months in arrears) .. in this case, your bad record will still be in CCRIS. Even after the bank updates, its the CURRENT month onwards that is cleared. the past 11 months will still show bad record.... if u're paying consistantly every month frm now onwards, then after 1 year, you have NO MORE bad record smile.gif
nemoexcel
post Nov 10 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(russel @ Nov 8 2010, 10:24 PM)
Hi All,

Did u all know that CTOS record can be posted by any company?
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yes, but thats a different CTOS check... its more for trades. Eg. Company A owes Company B debts, hence, Company B can lodge this debt into CTOS, to deter COmpany A frm getting "easy" credit terms frm other companies in the same industry...

but as for individuals, CTOS will only enter the record upon a formal legal suit, summons, bankruptcy ... there is a dept in CTOS whereby the staffs there does nothing but go thru daily newspaper and cut out those summons advertised by banks, Proclamation of sale... etc etc
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post Dec 16 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ezwannkotb @ Nov 24 2010, 10:50 PM)
Btw, any problem to apply loan if I pay only zakat, not income tax?
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No, proof of zakat payment is not sufficient. If you are working with a MNC/PLC, then EA form + payslips is good. But the best supporting document to proof your income is EPF statement + Payslip (for the employee)


 

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