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Definitely not under CCRIS because CCRIS is a reporting platform for all financial institution under the purview of BNM mainly banks.CCRIS, CTOS, Blacklisted by Bank, Whats The different.
CCRIS, CTOS, Blacklisted by Bank, Whats The different.
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Missed payment from other institution other that then financial institution will not be captured in CCRIS.
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Application for share financing will be included in CCRIS.
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QUOTE(Twilight Prophet @ Dec 12 2011, 09:55 PM) Thanks b00n. A very helpful forumer just informed me that share financing from Investment Banks like HDBS, OSK and Kenanga will not appear in CCRIS. Only loans with the commercial banks like Maybank and CIMB shows up in CCRIS. Can you kindly confirm if the info is accurate? In actual fact he is correct. If ur financing is with them then it will not reflect. But if ur financing is with commercial banks like maybank, Cimb etc... Then it will. U may check the official website of ccris to see whther those brokerage firm is bound to report to ccris which I don't think so because they are officially governed by bursa.Added on December 13, 2011, 1:11 pmI stand corrected. Whateer financing provided by HwangDBS and kenanga is reported. Osk no. Refer this list here: http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=4&pg=6&ac=7 This post has been edited by b00n: Dec 13 2011, 01:12 PM |
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QUOTE(bingozero @ Jan 15 2012, 11:56 PM) The answer is obvious right?Since the bank charge "Late Payment", means that it's already at least 1 payment late, i.e. you're late to pay after the due date. Thus CCRIS will also reflect you had missed 1 payment. However, there's a catch to it. Most of the reporting to CCRIS is done between 10th to 15th of each month. Thus if one pay before the bank reports to CCRIS, he/she will be reflected as no miss payment in CCRIS although by the fact he/she did indeed missed the due date. |
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QUOTE(SK30 @ Mar 7 2012, 12:27 AM) From what i know they won't remove anything on the record... it will be there forever. Depends on each bank's underwriting policy. Some will just take it literally that you had a negative record and straight away reject. Some will see how recent is the case and judge the relevance.The only thing they willing to do is add a comment in Remark Section as for whatever present status after we provide relevant document to proof.. ex of remark: full payment and settled or others. just wondering how would bank provide a loan even though the remark showing it's been settled. Any comment? |
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1) No, CTOS and CCRIS will not prompt the other banks. CTOS just compile data for banks to buy from them. CCRIS is a centralize reporting where every bank is mandatory to report i.e. feed data to them.
2) Yes, they are only concern about their own safeguard. They wouldn't go and inform Maybank or other banks unless it's fraud related. 3) Different bank has different bank policy. Anyway, coming back to correct your perception; when your father's relative "run away" i.e. default the loan, the bank already knew it. I'm just surprised the bank have yet come after the guarantor. So YES, the bank knows who is the borrower and who is the Guarantor. Thus the bank would have issued legal notice to both. That is how your father's name get into CTOS. CTOS compiles all these published legal notice by the court. CTOS is nothing but just compilation of data and sell. |
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QUOTE(beebee338 @ Mar 22 2012, 02:41 PM) My situation is - One of my friend signed up Celebrity Fitness last yeat around August 11 with one year contract. She moved to new house on Nov11 which is far away from the center and didnt go there anymore. She didnt pay after that even though already sign contract for 1 year. Will she categorized under CCRIS system? QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 15 2008, 10:29 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « CCRIS is a system created by BNM. Every financial institution is required to submit their customer's credit conduct to this centralised system. Telco is excluded but they are plans to include all those government loans, korperasi, IPTA loans etc...but all these while just talks and rumours. What is meant by credit conduct is mainly split into 3 major categories: Applications: - How many applications is being applied for the past 1 year. - How much "line" is being applied. Thus banks or underwriters would know how "desperate" this person is seeking for credit facilities. And out of these apps, how many is approved and rejected. Outstanding Status - It would show how many credit facilities one had i.e. housing loans, credit cards, OD, hire purchase etc... - Each line would show each facilities with it's outstanding, limits and payment behavior, legal status if any. - Under the payment behavior string, 1 would meant miss 1 payment, 2 would meant miss 2 payment. - If it's a card with outstanding close to limit granted might not give a good impression. - If it's like Hybz mentioned, he's always late by 2 days...the payment string might shows all 1. But since it's a consistent pattern, there's nothing to worry about. But word of advise, phone the bank up and change the billing cycle. - Legal status would shows what legal action had been taken. This portion is mainly for officers to judge how good is your repayment, how much "burden" once has, etc...the main evaluation criteria lies in reviewing this section. Special Attention Status - This would show mainly accounts that had been written off. - Or under AKPK management. Meaning to say if one appears under this section, sorry to say that it really leaves a bad impression. So it's advisable to visit BNM twice or at least once a year to view your own CCRIS report. This is to detect whether someone had misused your identity to fraud for apps also. http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=7&pg=10&ac=12 CTOS is an independent company which collects all legal notices published. So happy4ever is right that they are collecting from newspaper. Note the word "published". So they either took it from newspaper or notice board outside the court. They never approach "first hand" to credit companies like you mentioned! CTOS is different from CCRIS as it only reports what was published. Even inclusive of normal civil suits which doesn't really involve financial institution. That is why CTOS is still widely used besides CCRIS as CCRIS like I mentioned above only store reports from "financial institution". Whereas if one company or one person decided to sue you for defamation, or other legal matters and are being brought up to court, it would be captured under CTOS after the legal preceding is done and legal notice is issued. CCRIS would never capture those instances. There's another company out there quite similar to CTOS, which is known as BRIS. Just that it's more focused on corporate side. http://www.ctos.com.my/CTOSHOME/home.htm http://bris.com.my/html/about.html BTW, there's no such thing as black list. Banks or financial institution based on all the above reports to make their judgment. One can be listed in CTOS but if it's not related or the severity is not major, there would still be no problem. CCRIS, however everyone with credit facilities would be listed. As long as the payment behavior is consistently good than there's no problem! |
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Get the facts right. You will not get listed under CTOS just because of supp card.
Are you sure it is a supp card? Complain to FMB and BNM on MBF taking action against you as supp cardholder. However although above had been said, if not mistaken, the bank does have the right to go after the supp card spending only. Also, in the case of deceased, the bank has the right to go after the estate of the deceased. But defintely not the supp cardholder or the children. Btw, saw that in your signature you are selling cards, loans etc... Yet you know nothing about all this? So how is one confident to get loans from you? |
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Contact FMB here http://www.fmb.org.my/
But like I mentioned before, you could still possible be liable for the supp card spending. This post has been edited by b00n: Apr 24 2012, 07:48 AM |
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QUOTE(maru @ Apr 24 2012, 02:06 PM) FMB only handle dispute cases only.... Wah! That's extortion. But then again everything is in the T&C which no one reads anyway....Added on April 24, 2012, 2:31 pmjust called up BNM something u guys might want to know.... those supplementary card holder issue after 2006, they not liable for whatsoever principal owed but only the spending for supplementary itself only those card issued before 2006, supplementary liable for full amount my case....principal before 2006, supplementary 2007 , now the officer need to double confirm before can let me know the conclusion. At the end of the conversation was the BNM staff helpful? Let us all know the result once they inform you. |
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Because if it is recorded in the T&C that supp card is liable for basic card spending, then by virtue of you and your mother accepting the card had sealed the contract and to be bounded by it.
Else if the T&C stated otherwise then you have a case. That is what BNM is trying to point out to you. |
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QUOTE(sakos @ Jul 2 2012, 05:02 PM) I paid full settlement my personal loan in 2010, before that my account status already Under Pemerhatian. So after kawtim the loan, bank give me a release letter saying that full amount has been made. Last year I went to Bank Negara just to check my CCRIS record and the status account still there Under Pemerhatian. I ask one of the customer service and they said, they will contact that bank. Last week I check again at Bank Negara but the status still there. Should I ask Bank Negara or the Bank? Do a formal complain against the bank directly and CC BNM.i.e. write in official letter to the bank asking the bank to remove the status reporting. This same letter at the same time, forward to BNM. Thus in your official letter to the bank, you need to put cc BNM thus they will take notice. |
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QUOTE(fly126 @ Jul 7 2012, 01:32 AM) the bank have upgraded my credit card in April 2012, can I check my latest-update CCRIS Report now ? Because I heard the bank need few months to update their customer CCRISS Report to Bank Negara ? Thanks ! You will see an increase in line. Btw, shouldn't take few months. It should be 1 month. QUOTE(spriggan @ Jul 11 2012, 05:45 PM) Dear All, Usually account opening doesn't check CCRIS. CTOS maybe. Others may correct me if I am wrong.I am not sure is this is the correct place to open a post but I am very upset till the max so I have no source but to express my feeling here. Okey lets go into the point. Today I am suppose to open a saving account instructed by my education provider (University) at a local bank ( The best well known Chinese bank in Malaysia). I waited for more then 2 hour just to wait till my turn to open the saving account but unfortunately the PIC told me that my application has been rejected due to unknown reason. I question him on the reason whether is it CCRIS, CTOS or Bankruptcy but He refuse to tell me the reason. I feel humiliated and wrote complaint letter to the bank. Now I have a lot question in my mind: 1) Can a bank reject my application for open a saving acccount and not giving any reason ? 2) If Yes, How I am gonna know whats going on with my finance status ? The only thing that comes to my mind is that I am still owing another bank outstanding credit RM 10K but I am capable and will settle it by next week because the due date is next week.... Anyone can help me on this ? Suggestion and comment and critic are welcome. Thank you for your time. Most of the time banks will reject opening of accounts due to bad cheque before, or AML reason which both also they will not disclose to customers. |
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QUOTE(jerry88 @ Oct 2 2012, 03:25 PM) Ca anybody confirm whether loan with MBSB will be reflected in CCRIS? How about with other insurance companies? MBSB I don't think so. But loans from most insurance companies will be reflected.QUOTE(terrylim2004 @ Oct 3 2012, 03:08 PM) Dear Sis and Bro, althought the 2 could be the bank's mistake, but overall your CCRIS looks fine. Should be no problem.Hi, attached is my CCRIS report, my current income is 5k per month, will there be trouble to apply housing loan for 400k condo? and the "2" show in my ccris report is due to bank problem, is that anyway i could revise it? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ter...zpsc5d924d9.jpg Added on October 8, 2012, 12:46 am QUOTE(ahrapture @ Oct 7 2012, 11:35 PM) Any summons filed against you in the court of law wll be reflected in CTOS because CTOS is known as negative bureau where they collect "published" legal notice and file it into a database.This post has been edited by b00n: Oct 8 2012, 12:46 AM |
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QUOTE(fly126 @ Oct 8 2012, 02:02 AM) Few Days ago, I have a Check on Credit Report at BNM... Didn't BNM officer advise you?I find out that there was an Error at the Credit Card No. on My Credit Report Is it We Need to Inform the Bank & Ask them to make a Correction on that...??? Or We can do it Ourself at BNM... Please Advices...Thanks Anyway, you may file a complain against the specific bank asking them to rectify and cc BNM. |
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QUOTE(yyeeing @ Oct 22 2012, 10:06 PM) Section A is your directorship, business etc...It is Section D where ppl should start getting worry because Section D is where the summons, winding down notices, bankruptcy petitions etc published. This post has been edited by b00n: Oct 23 2012, 06:30 AM |
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Sorry on my previous statement.
Section A is nothing but IC and name verification. Section B is CTOS internal list on AMLA Section C (which I mistook for section A in the previous post) is on Directorships and Business Interests Section D is like I mentioned in my previous post - legal notices, bankruptcy, civil suits etc... Section E is if there is any input by creditors or trade references. So IC and name appearing in Section A is common. Like I mentioned, the important thing is nothing listed in Section D. |
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QUOTE(epul @ Dec 13 2012, 09:00 AM) Yes it would. But basically when you sign the application forms from the bank, you generally had consented the bank to do a background credit check on you the bank can do a credit check on you from registered credit reference company. Mainly CCRIS which is under BNM and CTOS or RAM which are individual registered credit company. |
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