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luvimp
post Mar 8 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Mar 7 2012, 06:23 PM)
Hye. May i know, if i got debt with bank but only RM1.3k, i am still blacklisted? Already overdue for a year.
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If its overdue for a year then most probably you are blacklisted.
No matter how much bank will usually proceed with legal if they cant collect the $$.
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post Mar 9 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Mar 8 2012, 01:31 PM)
If i settled the debt, will my name be removed from blacklisted immediately? What consequences if i was blaclisted?  Difficulties in applying loan? How about travel outside Malaysia? Thanks
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If u settle it they will put a remark saying that it was settled.
If blacklisted then u will have difficulties in applying for loan.
At the moment only if u default PTPTN loan then u will be deny for travel.
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post Mar 13 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Mar 13 2012, 01:07 PM)
i have a situation, end of last year i had 3 months lapsed in my home and car loan, but by january this year i've settled everything and have been paying all the loans on time.
But last week tried to make a new home loan and the bank says can't proceed because of the 3 months lapsed in CCRIS in january. how long it'll usually take for CCRIS to clear my name so that i can reapply the loan? or does it even work like that? anybody can give some advice?
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If you are only late in payment and no legal issue then your record should be clear after 12 months.
So i reckon you can try to apply again by Jan of 2013.
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post Mar 14 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(zapirwin @ Mar 13 2012, 07:17 PM)
Digi blacklist my name on CTOS for an outstanding amount of RM27.50, which I didn't even know about. Is that defamation?
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No.
Most probably is the outstanding that you owe to them.
You should go to their centre to settle the issue.
Either you pay it or they waive for you.
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post Mar 14 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(fhatz @ Mar 14 2012, 10:31 AM)
i got personal loan with easy-RHB ... i taking this loan because helping my father to settle his financial problem ... he said he will pay the monthly installment every month .... 

but now he not pay the installment for 2 month  vmad.gif ... i got call from bank they said if im not do the payment, my name will listed or send to CCRIS  sad.gif  ... now middle of month i dont have enough cash to do the payment for 2 month ...

im not good in loan or installment ...

need advice n some Q :

if i pay 1 month outstanding is it ok ?? i know interest will increase but i think it better then my name listed in CCRIS right  sad.gif

one more thing, is it correct with 2 month outstanding we will listed under CCRIS or they just want to force me to pay ....
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Firstly, call them to promise to pay by end of this month.
If they able to get a promise to pay then usually they will wait till the date mentioned before pursuing with legal.

It should be fine to keep the account at 1 month in arrear.
They cannot proceed with legal if it is only 1 month overdue.

Yes, 2 months outstanding they can proceed to blacklist you.
That's why you must call them fast and show them your sincerity to pay.
Give them a logical date like end of this month right after your salary day.

Once you got blacklisted in CCRIS then it will affect your loan in the future.
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(whiplash86 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:48 AM)
Hi everyone,

New user, hope you guys can help me pls.

My dad, mom and I recently opened a Sdn Bhd company and are trying to open a current account for the company with CIMB. However, the banker told us my father is blacklisted under CTOS for a loan on a bike (Credit Company) and a house (CIMB) which he was the guarantor for his sister who was the borrower. Right now he is unsure of these two and is going to find out why default.

But firstly we have been advised to get a CTOS credit report. My father fears that if he is to check, we will stir up trouble because act ten years ago, he signed as guarantor for another sister for another house, but then the whole family ran away. However no one has chased him for that loan. He is worried by checking CTOS or CCRIS it will make the relevant parties of the loan (Maybank) realize the loan default for that house.

First question, by checking will they realize and feed info back to the bank that my dad has ANOTHER loan default?

Second, is the CIMB banker we are trying to open account with more concerned with the CIMB loan and not bothered act the rest?

Third, we are wondering why this issue has come up because my father has opened a couple of personal accounts and also got car hire purchase loan for two cars in the past two years with Public Bank and also Maybank.

Should we try with other banks first, or just change the directorship to some one with clean record and deal with my dad's blacklist later?

Thanks for the help guys, we are really upset about this, and please... in future, be careful when trusting family.

Best Regards

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For the blacklist under CTOS, when was it dated?
I think it is because the case was with CIMB so they trying to get back as much bad debt as possible.

Usually they will check CCRIS for any loan matter and if your dad able to get loan since few years back then his CCRIS should be alright.

You should try opening current account at other bank such as PBB and MBB because your dad have other accounts with them.
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post Mar 22 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(adreina @ Mar 21 2012, 03:12 PM)
Sorry for asking this question.

I had RM25k credit card outstanding, it's not that I unable to pay, it's just that I BT and EPP it ... I have 0 overdue amount and my CCRISS is clean.

So, if now I going to apply loan a hire Purchase Loan, bank will pull a CCRIS report and the RM25k will appeared although I got 0 overdue amount. So take as consideration, 5% of RM25k min payment is Rm1250 for the commitment.

I wonder, is that possible I pay RM25k into the credit card without cancelling my BT and EPP to avoid penalty charge, so that the CCRISS report print out will show my outstanding balance is 0.

Then after the hire Pucrhase approve, can withdraw bank out.
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No way.
Once u pay the RM25k you will be charge with penalty fee.
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post Mar 23 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(adreina @ Mar 22 2012, 09:28 PM)
How about if I pay RM23k instead of RM25k ..?
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If you can afford RM23k for payment.
Why don't you take lesser margin for your loan by paying more upfront payment?
For example, if u taking house or car loan then you pay additional RM23k upon the 10% deposit.
It will be easier for bank to approve it if your margin is lower.
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Mar 30 2012, 10:42 AM)
will the bank be considerate enough  if after 4 months all my payments are on time? do you guys have any helpful tips to get the loan again?
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Definitely no.
Bank will consider your payment as long as the record show.
CCRIS show 12 months repayment conduct and even though you are at current now but used to late for payment previously.
They will still reject you.
If you are desperate for the loan then go for lower margin.
For example, 70% for car loan or 80% for house loan.
And if your monthly income enough to meet the minimum requirement then they will accept your loan.
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post Apr 20 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(mattlac @ Apr 19 2012, 11:37 PM)
Dammit. Owed p1 RM1,000+. Cant apply other telcos anymore.
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Yes, u should pay up.
Else, u can't apply anything later.
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:02 PM)
I have a curious question here..

My friend lost her car which she purchased at about RM70K something and her loan is stood at the same amount..

The insurance company only paid about 80% of the value of the car, therefore, the balance of loan after the insurance payment for the lost car is RM20,000 something..

She was asking me, lets say if she did not pay anything to the bank, what will happen?

She wants to open a bank account, but not willing to settle the balance of RM20,000 something to the bank.

What is the consequences that she might have to face in future? What will happen to her monies in the bank?
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Even though you lost your car you should continue paying the monthy instalments during the investigation period by the insurance company.
If you stopped paying then your record will show late payment.
You are eligible to pay no matter what happen to your car.
Since insurance finished the investigation and willing to compensate 80% of the car price then you should settle your loan with bank.
If with the insurance amount you still can't settle it then you should talk with the bank either continue paying the monthly instalments of change it to term loan.
You can't ignore the balance else you won't be able to take any loan in the future (they will blacklist you and if your balance around RM20k+ then they can summon you and declare bankruptcy)
They can't touch your money in your savings or current account so no worry.
But if your salary are paid into the same bank (e.g. car loan RHB, savings account RHB and salary paid into the RHB account) then they can stop the salary from being credited to your account.


Added on April 23, 2012, 11:50 am
QUOTE(1282009 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:51 PM)
Allow me to be out of topic a bit. Does your friend insure the full car loan amount? Is it normal for insurance comp to pay only 80% of the car insured value if the full amount is insured?
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Yes, 80% is the max that insurance company will pay.
80% of the market price for your car at the moment.
Even though you insured full amount.

This post has been edited by luvimp: Apr 23 2012, 11:50 AM
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post Apr 24 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(maru @ Apr 24 2012, 08:47 AM)
in this case i dont mind to pay for my own spending....

after fair talk with the manager itself, he really told me there wont be anyway out for me. well gonna try FMB first. Thanks boon
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They will charge you even though you are the supp holder.
They will press charge on all related parties and to provide waiver or not is at their choice.
But since they can't get it from your mom then i am sure they will try to get it from you.
Although you can confirm that you didn't spend that much on the supp card but that is your mom that they are trying to sue so they have all the reason to ask you to pay on behalf.
MBF are famous for their collection team and definitely will pursue with legal if not able to collect the $$.
Good luck looking for help.
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post May 2 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Apr 29 2012, 11:00 PM)
Wondering; say a PL was taken with Bank X. And the salary was remitted to Bank X as well.

In lieu of default in repayment, can Bank X recover the money by freezing the account, and collect the salary remitted in the account?

Or do they need court order for that?
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Yes, they can freeze the salary from being credited to the account.
But they can't deduct your salary without your consent.
But by freezing the salary from bring credited to your account then you will definitely go look for them to discuss.
No, to freeze the salary from being credited to your account they don't need any court order.
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QUOTE(Sharv The Great @ May 13 2012, 10:40 PM)
Hi, I wanna ask you a question regarding car loan application. My mom was having bad credit history for sometime long ago(all is credit card and a personal loan), but in the past three months, she with my dads help has cleared all her debts and currently she have no an commitments at all and a car under her name which is fully paid. She has got all the release letters from the banks which she was blacklisted. So my question is will she be able to apply a new car loan as a guarantor under my name?. I am a degree student with no salary. Thanks in advance
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Only settled all debts 3 months ago?
No, they will reject you.
Furthermore, you as hirer only a student.
If her record is good for 12 months then they might consider but still very weak with record of poor payment.
Suggest to lower the margin to 70 or 80%.
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QUOTE(mercuryindahouse @ May 26 2012, 05:45 PM)
dear all sifus, please comment.....

Lately, I hv an ex-colleague would like to apply for car loan but he had defaulted credit card years ago.......
He made full settlement to clear off this CC debt and applied for car loan 2 weeks later....and now he's clear of any debts, living without debt, no credit card, no car and house loan....
He's working for a bank now and applied for car loan under staff rate....

What is the chances his car loan application would be approved?
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Staff no problem la.
Just make sure you nego with the person handling your application face to face.


Added on May 30, 2012, 11:13 am
QUOTE(truesoul27 @ May 30 2012, 12:32 AM)
What is my chances of getting loan or cc approve if my ccris show 11112222222? My salary is 180k p.a and only have a car loan to service. Have checked CTOS which is clean. I have misunderstood the payment before therefore not able to get so clean on ccris. I finallyuncerstand today that even if you are late a day in making your payment, it will still reflect as 1 miss payment. Not before 15th as mentioned by some bros and sis here earlier.
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Low.
But if you apply at the similar bank where all your accounts is at then maybe higher chance.
If you looking for car loan then most probably they will reject you or ask for lower margin.

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 4 2012, 11:08 AM)
Got a friend, thru me wanna ask

If u owe 10k and didnt pay up...for few years...accumulated till max 30k....possible to nego with bank, actual amount + legal fees without paying the interest accured?

If he wanted to sell a properties, will the bank know, about it and recoup back the money?

thanks.
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If you go to nego with bank then not possible.
If you ask AKPK to help then possible.

If the property belongs to the bank which you owe money to then they will know.
But recoup of money may not be possible.
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QUOTE(neutralor @ Jun 9 2012, 01:31 PM)
Hi , i'm trying for a car loan and i have also check my CCRIS and i dont have any creadit history as i have not take any loan . The bank officer said must create credit history then only have a higher chance of getting the loan. Has anyone encounter this before ?
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No credit card?
How old are you?
Yes, bank officer is right.
You are like a piece of blank paper and risk is high especially if you are fresh graduate.
Most probably they will need guarantor so u can always use your parents as guarantor.
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QUOTE(kitty_meow2 @ Jun 27 2012, 01:12 PM)
hi there everybody, i need some help in answering some doubts before i even apply for a car loans. i hv a cc problem. debt 4k. after consulting the officers of the bank, i agree to pay by installments of 200 per month for 20 months. i already pay up to 6 months. in between the month i did skip but the month later i also pay for the previous month (eg = skipped april, then i pay in may 400 instead of 200). this july 2011, i am able to pay up the total sum of the balance so that i will no longer owe anything since the cc already canceled. i want to buy a car after this. but when i read all the post for this topic (oh yes i read all of em) i just want to be sure when is the best and safe time to apply for a car loan.
a) should i wait for few months or a year?
b)what is my chances?
c)i really learned my lesson well with the credit card. now i only use a debit mastercard. is a debit mc can be use to pay at the hotels (i travel a lot for my job) because i am tired bringing a lot of cash around (dangerous la especially for woman la) since it is like a prepaid, i can always bank in money for the card and use so i know my limits. but i dont know to what extent the usage of the card.
d)after i pay the balance of the cc, for years to come, let say after 10 years, will i able to secure a house loan?

i hope u guys can advise me in this matter since i am really want to change into a better life and secure better ratings in banking history. blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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6 months should be sufficient.
However, depending on your income level and car that you are buying.
If you afraid of your chances, you can always add in guarantor or lower your margin for car loan.
And then you start to pay prompt for your car loan then going forward you shouldn't have much issue on housing loan either.
I will advise you to at least have a credit card even though you don't plan to use it.
Also good for bank record that you have a credit card and has been paying promptly with low usage.


Added on June 28, 2012, 5:13 pm
QUOTE(kisya @ Jun 28 2012, 02:42 PM)
is this the new BNM rule for 2012? haiz.. yesterday submit for loan, hoping for miracle ..
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Not a rule but that is what take count for the banks.
Suggest you to apply again after 12 months.
Also, no point keep trying if bank reject you.
1 bank reject you then all other will follow suit.

This post has been edited by luvimp: Jun 28 2012, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(sakos @ Jul 2 2012, 05:02 PM)
I paid full settlement my personal loan in 2010, before that my account status already Under Pemerhatian. So after kawtim the loan, bank give me a release letter saying that full amount has been made. Last year I went to Bank Negara just to check my CCRIS record and the status account still there Under Pemerhatian. I ask one of the customer service and they said, they will contact that bank. Last week I check again at Bank Negara but the status still there. Should I ask Bank Negara or the Bank?
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Bro, go to the bank and not CCRIS.
CCRIS getting the record update from banks.
So if bank don't delete it then it will remain in CCRIS. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(muchio @ Dec 21 2012, 10:36 PM)
hye.. i have checked my ctos report thru online..to my surprise, i didn't have any record in all sections except the section A.

My question is how is it possible when I know that I still have bad debt with maxis dated back to 2007? Any expert here that might have an explaination?
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Usually for blacklist by Telco is not available through CTOS.
Usually Telco will check whether customer is blacklist by other Telco through Telco listing.
It is better that you check with Maxis since you know that you are blacklisted.

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