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post Dec 21 2014, 08:01 PM

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This is actually very very very good news to all. CTOS has been very naughty to my clients and if this move by MOF puts a leash on them, all the better.



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post Dec 22 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 21 2014, 08:01 PM)
This is actually very very very good news to all. CTOS has been very naughty to my clients and if this move by MOF puts a leash on them, all the better.
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So this means that P1 and those gyms can no longer have upper hand when their customers try to break their contracts.

Very good news for the consumer.
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post Dec 22 2014, 03:21 PM

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Which party will be involved on Ccris and Ctos?
Telco like maxis, celcom or digi include?
If applying for credit card, what the bank most view on the ccris report?
Recently i was apply a motorcycle loan from Aeon credit around 17k but get reject due to blacklist ,and as i know i did pay every month on my car loan.but how come will get blacklist

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post Dec 22 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(ctwwilliam @ Dec 22 2014, 03:21 PM)
Which party will be involved on Ccris and Ctos? 
Telco like maxis, celcom or digi include? 
If applying for credit card, what the bank most view on the ccris report?
Recently i was apply a motorcycle loan from Aeon credit around 17k but get reject due to blacklist ,and as i know i did pay every month on my car loan.but how come will get blacklist
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Telco will be in CTOS , if u already blacklisted or overdue too long probably already in CTOS . Settle the bills and should be no problem as telco in CTOS is not a big issue for bank but must settle it . Every bank / credit service have their reason to reject ur loan . Please make sure ur income is sufficient and CCRISS/CTOS is clean
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post Dec 22 2014, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(fairreport @ Dec 21 2014, 06:55 PM)
Dear All
          CTOS now is under governing of Ministry Of Finance.  CTOS can't disclose your report unless you are agree to disclose.
Important Notice –
Additional Requirements for the Delivery of Malaysian Credit Reports

In view of the full enforcement of the Credit Reporting Agencies (CRA) Act on 15 October 2014, the CRA Act has set forth important obligations for all Credit Reporting Agencies relating to the provision of credit information of Malaysian companies and individuals.

Please note the additional requirements for the delivery of Malaysian Credit Reports from 15 October 2014 (date inclusive)s follows:

1. Subject Company has rights under the Act including disclosure of the Subscriber Identity for whom the report is prepared for.
2. Consent must be obtained from the Subject Company before generating the credit information

Kindly note that the aforementioned requirements only apply to Malaysian Business Information Report and Comprehensive Reports. The delivery process for overseas reports shall remain unchanged.
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SUMMARY OF RIGHTS CREDIT REPORTING AGENCIES ACT 2010 [ACT 710]

The Credit Reporting Act 2010 promotes fairness, accuracy and privacy in the practice of credit reporting. Credit reporting agencies collect and disclose information about you, such as a failure to pay your bills or if you have been made bankrupt. The Act, gives you specific rights, most of which are summarized as below.

Warning: This is only a generalized summary. If there is a difference, conflict or contradiction between this summary and any provision of the Act, the provision of the Act shall prevail.

You must be informed by the credit reporting agency by way of a notice which States:
i. that credit information is being processed by or on behalf of the credit reporting agency together with its description;
ii. the purpose for which the information is being processed;
iii. the source of such information;
iv. of how you can contact the credit reporting agency in case you have any inquiries or
complaints;
v. you have the right to access to such information and also have the right to request the credit reporting agency to correct your credit information; and
vi. to whom the credit information will be disclosed.

Your credit information cannot be collected and used for any purpose other than what is provided under the Act.
This means that a credit reporting agency, may only collect and use your credit information to prepare a credit report to assess your credit worthiness, which includes but not limited, to any history of failure or diligence regarding payment of your bills (reputational collateral). Your credit information cannot be used or disclosed by any credit reporting agency for purposes other then what is permitted under the Act. An example of such activity includes but not limited to, is disclosing your credit information for direct marketing purposes. In the event that you have information regarding the occurrence of such practice then a complaint may be forwarded to the Registrar.

Your consent must be obtained before a credit reporting agency can disclose/reveal your credit information.
This means that a credit reporting agency must get your consent before they can submit your credit report to their subscribers.
Your credit report can only contain information according to the Act.
This means that a credit reporting agency cannot include such credit information in their report regardless whether you have given consent or not;

i. if the source of such credit information is not included in the report;
ii.if such credit information is regarding any pending proceedings in court more than two years after the proceedings began that has yet to be settled;
iii. if such credit information is regarding any default in repayment of credit two years after the date of final settlement of the amount in default.


Your right to request from a credit provider information regarding reasons of unfavorable credit action
This means that if a credit provider has taken an unfavorable credit action against you for example; rejects your application for a loan, and that rejection was based on a credit report provided by a credit reporting agency, then you have the right to be informed of the identity of the credit reporting agency. You have the right to access the said credit report.
Your right to access credit information or credit report
This means that you have the right to have access to your credit information or credit report from a credit reporting agency which holds or have processed your credit report.
However the credit reporting agency must verify your identity and confirm that such information is indeed in their database before complying. Upon your request and upon payment of any fee which may be prescribed by the agency in custody of your credit information.
Your right to dispute incorrect credit information
This means that if your credit report which was disclosed to the credit provider in response to the application for credit made by you, and such credit report contain incorrect information, you then have the right to challenge such credit report according to the procedures provided under the Act.
Contact information:


Office of the Registrar for Credit Reporting Agency:
Enquiries Line:
603 8890 6560/6561
Fax:
603 8890 6423
Email Address:
warga_ppapk@treasury.gov.my
Web Address:
www.treasury.gov.my
Business Address:

Level 1. Treasury 2, Ministry of Finance Complex No.7, Persiaran Perdana, Precinct 2, 62590, Putrajaya
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Is this means bank no longer can access our CTOS without our notice?
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post Dec 22 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(13aby @ Dec 22 2014, 03:38 PM)
Is this means bank no longer can access our CTOS without our notice?
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Yes, no one including bank cannot get your ctos report without your concern, BUT, when you are applying a loan, there will request you to sign to allow them to get or check with any CRA including ctos and ccris for your record or report. If you don't agree with the terms, your loan will not be process. Means that, bank will still get your report from ctos and ccris


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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 22 2014, 12:03 PM)
So this means that P1 and those gyms can no longer have upper hand when their customers try to break their contracts.

Very good news for the consumer.
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This act is to means to treat equally fair to a personal and a Financial institute, If you do not apply any loan or do not grant any permission to anyone to access your data, ctos or others CRA shouldn't reveal your records to them.

In the event your apply a loan or apply something with FI or even Telco or apply for a job, will you grant permission for the FI or Telco or the company you wanted to apply a job to get your report from CTOS? sure you will, unless you don't want the loan or job.

CRA like CTOS need to remove those record where the case or default has been settle for more than 24 months provided you provide all the supporting documents. this is actually good and fair to us, at least you have a chance to clear all those old and bad record and make your record clean.

This act suppose to enforce in 15/04/14, but delay to 15/10/14, but I had requested CTOS to removed my old record in July, and they do. Now. I am clean
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post Dec 22 2014, 06:09 PM

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Who fill the credit report request form before?
Is it the loan declaration need to Be fill up?
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post Dec 22 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(ctwwilliam @ Dec 22 2014, 03:21 PM)
Which party will be involved on Ccris and Ctos? 
Telco like maxis, celcom or digi include? 
If applying for credit card, what the bank most view on the ccris report?
Recently i was apply a motorcycle loan from Aeon credit around 17k but get reject due to blacklist ,and as i know i did pay every month on my car loan.but how come will get blacklist
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That why before credit report agency release your report they need your consent before disclose your report and to who they at disclose to。Before that no need they can just disclose without your consent . And now you know why your loan rejected。 rclxms.gif
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post Dec 22 2014, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(fairreport @ Dec 22 2014, 08:58 PM)
That why before credit report agency release your report they need your consent before disclose your report and to who they at disclose to。Before that no need they can just disclose without your consent . And now you know why your loan rejected。 rclxms.gif
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Could we choose don't wan to disclose? Haha
No wonder they keep ask me to sign consent form.

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post Dec 22 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ctwwilliam @ Dec 22 2014, 06:09 PM)
Who fill the credit report request form before? 
Is it the loan declaration need to Be fill up?
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When you apply a loan, the loan application form will have incorporated the clauses which allow the bank to do a CCRIS / CTOS (& other background search) search on you once you sign on the dotted line.
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post Dec 22 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Dec 22 2014, 11:31 PM)
When you apply a loan, the loan application form will have incorporated the clauses which allow the bank to do a CCRIS / CTOS (& other background search) search on you once you sign on the dotted line.
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I was apply by individual to get the credit report. There is around 6 page . But one of the page is Loan Declaration.
Don't whether it need to be fill in or not. Because i just request for Credit report.
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QUOTE(ctwwilliam @ Dec 22 2014, 11:38 PM)
I was apply by individual to get the credit report. There is around 6 page . But one of the page is Loan Declaration. 
Don't whether it need to be fill in or not. Because i just request for Credit report.
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Sorry don't quite understand "you apply / request for credit report" - you mean you ask for a copy of CTOS and CCRIS report from the banker while you apply loan?
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post Dec 23 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Dec 22 2014, 11:45 PM)
Sorry don't quite understand "you apply / request for credit report" - you mean you ask for a copy of CTOS and CCRIS report from the banker while you apply loan?
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I request credit report from bank negara.
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post Dec 23 2014, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(ctwwilliam @ Dec 23 2014, 12:14 AM)
I request credit report from bank negara.
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I c... no harm to fill in the form to extract the CCRIS report direct from BNM.
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post Dec 23 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Dec 23 2014, 12:26 AM)
I c... no harm to fill in the form to extract the CCRIS report direct from BNM.
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Ya, just send it today and will took 1 week time to get the credit report.
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if i cut the credit card by today, how much times need to update with ccris report? with immediate effect or took days for ccris to update their record?
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post Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Dec 23 2014, 09:45 AM)
if i cut the credit card by today, how much times need to update with ccris report? with immediate effect or took days for ccris to update their record?
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CCRIS is updated every month on the 15th

Records in CCRIS are kept on a past 12-mths basis

Cutting CC does not really mean much in that sense when you are applying for Loan.

Is the missed payment that triggers red-flags

For the missed payments to "go away" you need 12-mths


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QUOTE(aromachong @ Dec 23 2014, 09:45 AM)
if i cut the credit card by today, how much times need to update with ccris report? with immediate effect or took days for ccris to update their record?
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When you cut it, you need to get a letter of cancellation by the bank that issued your credit card, before the bank you are applying your mortgage to would agree to disregard your total outstanding that adds up to your total commitment, thus increasing your DSR... it is best that you settle your CC O/S and cancel the cards before applying for a loan though first

QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM)
CCRIS is updated every month on the 15th

Records in CCRIS are kept on a past 12-mths basis

Cutting CC does not really mean much in that sense when you are applying for Loan.

Is the missed payment that triggers red-flags

For the missed payments to "go away" you need 12-mths
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Once you cancel the cards, and the CCRIS is updated on the 15th, the whole loan item would be removed from your CCRIS. this is best done if you are a bad paymaster and still need to buy a house, so what you do is you settle and cancel the loans (cc, hp, pl, anything), wait until the CCRIS clears, and then you apply for the loan.

However, if you have a bad CCRIS repayment records, and you applied for a loan, gets it rejected because of being a bad pay master, and then you settle off those loans that you have a bad record with... the bank already remembers of you bad credit history and would most likely reject your appeal even if you settle and cancel those loans off.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 AM)
CCRIS is updated every month on the 15th

Records in CCRIS are kept on a past 12-mths basis

Cutting CC does not really mean much in that sense when you are applying for Loan.

Is the missed payment that triggers red-flags

For the missed payments to "go away" you need 12-mths
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Oh.. so i cancel on today and it will be updated in CCRIS report on 15th JAN 2015?

few days ago.. i go to rhb easy personal loan... i try to loan rm50, 000 and they do it in the system in front of me.. the syatem checks all ccris, ctos and i can see the "approved" in the system... however, the officer needs payslip, statement submit to HQ..

i told them i am just trying to see approve o not... and i wonder will the application shown in CCRIS? because i never agree take loan and they didnt approve.. but system shown approved?

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