Sup fellas!

I'm trying to decide if I should get the S or the J spec.

There are three conditions:
1. must have dark grey and black interior
2. must be auto
3. will go for better resell value (or less depreciation) - question: will the J or S have more depreciation? There seems to be an increasing awareness of safety, would the J spec devalue more than the S spec due to this? Again, there are also people who don't care? What you think?

THE DIFFERENCE:

S Spec (RM88,325)
-15" alloy rims
-disc brakes
-two air bags
-integrated audio system (can automatically adjust sound volumes to speed), 6 speakers
-leather steering wheel (with volume control)
-more blings blings - spoiler, side skirting, foglamps, dashboard meter has better lights, automatic foldable wing mirrors, remote control to open trunk
-other gimmicks - leather knobs on audio system, signal lights on side wings, etc

J Spec
-14" steel (RM73,000+)
-front disc, rear drum brakes
-no air bags
-non integrated audio system, 4 speakers
-urethane steering wheel (no volume control)
-no bling blings - no spoiler and skirting, no foglamps, manual foldable wing mirrors

Both specs are affordable. Of course, the J spec will allow me to have some extra cash available.

This post has been edited by MonkeyEggBalls: Jul 11 2008, 08:58 PM

J spec also got manual i think. I heard is around 69k

why dun u choose E?

i tot J spec is manual?but is like kosong ais inside tht car

Yeah that's right, but I'll only go for auto. Don't like to get creases on my leather shoes

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Added on July 9, 2008, 11:34 pmE and G spec have beige color seats and finishing. Not my taste.

This post has been edited by MonkeyEggBalls: Jul 9 2008, 11:34 PM

so go for j spec..

If I'm not mistaken, another difference is still there.

S spec is CBU from Thailand; J spec is CKD in Malaysia

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If I choose J spec, I will have extra cash for extra accessories like adding minor sound system, bodykit, wheels and AutoFoam to make the car sounds more solid-like.

Cheers.

All Malaysia's Vios are CKD

If you were talking about Vios from year 2003 till year 2006 facelift, I know it's CKD in Malaysia. But then I thought the all new one is CBU from Thailand? Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is where the info I get from -> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11749335

This post has been edited by oec88: Jul 9 2008, 11:53 PM

Old or new Vios, it's all CKD

Previous Altis and Camry are CKD but now new ones are CBU from Thailand

I did my training there, saw it with my own eyes. Convincing enough?

This post has been edited by bearbear: Jul 9 2008, 11:55 PM

I see...but I still can see around a lot people saying that the new Vios are CBU from Thailand = = Then which one is correct

This post has been edited by oec88: Jul 9 2008, 11:56 PM

You can come back and hit my head with that gun in your sig if Vios are CBU from Thailand

I think take J spec enough. After that go to change a beauty 16" sport rim will be cool. Air bag or disc brake not important la if u are "ikut peraturan" driver. About depreciate value, J spec still win wat.

Went all in. Convinced.

err...i rather go for Jspec...can get those auto indicator mirrors outside, slam 15-16 inch den fit foglights, den aftermarket alarm and audio...wahlah..and maybe you still have few $$ left rather than pay more for an S badge...dun really know about the CKD and stuff..but if auto J is more worth it..comes with same engine..and when the heck you got use the airbags or ABS...no one ask you drive like an ass on the road...hehe...depreciation nowadays no need talk la...market so bad...haha

J has ABS, BA and EBD and same body. Only thing missing is airbags, and other ornamental stuff like builtin player and indicator lights at reverse miror. Please go to toyota.com.my and read the specs properly first before talking nonsense. And the rims are not made of alloy. Manual over S? Manual wins, hands down. But if you prefer they have J auto as well but wihtout airbags.

This post has been edited by beatlesalbum: Jul 10 2008, 12:10 AM

LOL okie

Anyway, choose the right choice before buy. I've done a lot mistake on my car so now I'm regret, it's too late because the money is already fly away.

Depends on what u seeking for.. if u are going mod enthusiast, then go for J spec Manual as there are a lot more things to mod compare to a AUTO S spec.

i think you need to treat the vios J as the old iswara, also kosong inside, the cheapest sedan for proton family, same to vios J, the cheapest japanese sedan ... but why it is sold at RM69k++ ? think you know the answer

for me, the pro is at least toyota sell cheaper car to those people that gila gila japanese car ...

before the price reduction in 2006, a kosong vios E was sold at crazy RM80k++ ... now is 10k cheaper

that means the old or new vios all from Malaysia???same like Honda?

You said both are affordable to you. then by all means get the S spec.

if you buy the J spec what is your plan to do with the extra cash? mod?

its brake... not breaks....

civic type r cbu wat

accord 3.5 also cbu

honda jazz also cbu

isit? J spec is manual????? y i went to toyota show room don hav J spec showed?????

j spec got both manual and auto

ts wanted a auto car...juz go for S spec...15k for all the goodies u get...safety is the important part where the S spec comes wit 2 airbags...

We don't assemble vios here in malaysia leh.All of them are imported from thailand.We only assemble Toyota Rush and Avanza here

I would say you should take the J-spec.Buying price is less so less depreciation.Most of the missing features except the airbags I find it useless.

Overall,the J-spec exterior looks just the same.You also getting the same engine so no problem on the fuel economy side and reliability issue

This post has been edited by 779364: Jul 10 2008, 11:04 AM

Go for J spec

he probably will change the Audio,Brake,Wheel,LeatherSeat&Steering,so no need those full trim spec. Maybe! add bodykit&GT wing.

for me.. better go for S Spec...
yea... safety is important.. besides the car complete everything...
no need to "kacau" anything already

Well if u want an complete car, go for the S unless if u really opting for modding and dont border for warranties, J is ur pick.

Toyota made in Malaysia la same place with perodua... ....dont deny it...bear bear working there....he knows better than all of us....is there any reliable source say toyota made in thailand??

i read starnewspaper.. i saw the attached flyer. ya got J spec.... i think very save petrol if manual....

Ya, and if vios CBU, it should be more espensive ...

noob question here.. this J-spec can add sporty kit? all those spoiler and skirting.. foglamps can be added ka?

can, with added money ler

that is to be expected anyway cannot wait to see how honda reacted to this one.. heard rumors that the new city will arrive in November.. with 1.3 and 1.5 i-VTEC SOHC.. hope there is a price drop.. let the war of cars continue

This post has been edited by Neomax3: Jul 10 2008, 06:19 PM

i think honda wont follow suit...they might attack with new model instead...but sad idsi engine no more....

I believe the new L13/15 engines can do better than the idsi, if not Honda wont just simply dump it.

if no idsi means that no more <80k price car?

go for J spec if you dun mind there is no airbag. Auto version only cost u 71K after the current running discount of 2.5K.

btw, im j-spec owner. getting my car next week. =P

got ... because there is 2 spec, 1.3 and 1.5 ... so may be honda replace the idsi with a 1.3l engine and smaller cc save fuel ?

congratulation for ur new vios... welcome.. let's open a vois's club

All Vios is CKD and instead majority of the part of this new Vios is localised... UMW Toyota is looking forward be the main Vios Assembler to supply the whole south east asia for the next few years..

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Added on July 11, 2008, 2:02 pmErm... FYI all Vios are assemble in Malaysia Shah Alam Plant... Toyota Rush is import from Indonesia only Avanza is install in Malaysia but its in Perodua plant..

To Create under standing on Toyota Model Assemble area pls refer below

Vios J,E,G,S / Innova / Fortuner / Hilux / Hiace - Assemble in Malaysia Shah Alam Plant
Avanza 1.3&1.5 - Assemble in Malaysia (Perodua Plant)
Camry / Altis / Wish / Yaris - Fully Import (CBU) from Thailand
Rush - Fully Import (CBU) from Indonesia
Rav4 / Previa(Estima) - Fully Import(CBU) from Japan

Hope it clarify your doubt and understanding

This post has been edited by ikarishinji: Jul 11 2008, 02:02 PM

i went to toyota showroom in subang jaya just now, the J spec is not as bad as i thought.

the interior is black/grey combination.
J spec - rm73k
S spec - rm88k

get J spec
- throw the steel rim away, slam on a nice set of wheels. +rm2k
- throw the stupid HU away, slam in a nice 2 din HU - rm700
- put on ur own choice of body kits + spoiler(included paint) - rm2k

altogether = rm73k+ 2k + 700 + 2k = rm 77.7k = still cheaper than E specs.

if u like, u can even go add in ur own airbags and leather seats, it'll still be cheaper than G specs, choice is yours.

- L e O - , suppose stock part always the best, because the design come out from professional engineer ... and if u change rim, void the warranty instantly ...

pro and con ... think deeply

for the bodykit part i understand, but change rim void warranty? please do some research,get your facts right and do not give wrong info to the others.

From my understanding, if u touch and wiring at the engine bay, such as installing amplifier for ur ICE setup, yes it will void ur warranty,

installing rims, change HU, install bodykits, it will not void ur warranty, ofcourse u can correct me if i'm wrong.

next time if u plan to include the 1st bolded statement into ur reply, pls dont include the 2nd bolded statement.. it makes u look stupid for being confidence yet, sceptical
anyhow, if u got problem regarding the suspension or perhaps chasis, toyota might void ur warranty for changing the sport rim and u never know .. afterall, stock car are meant to be stock until over warranty

if i buy J spec the only thing i change is the rim and tyre

on FC part, will VIOS MT better than the AT?

theorically will

Check the review on the vios J frm NST's CBT section. All praises by the reviewer, Hezeri Samsuri and he has mentioned he can get 16km/l for FC without even trying hard, and cannot finish the petrol even after 3 days of trashing.

So convincing enough?

but nowadays those advance AT gearbox did improved quite a lots easily can hit 17km/L .. so if apply to VIOS, its still a doubt

advanced as in dsg or cvt maybe la
but vios juz conventional gearbox with torque converter.. there alone kill the fc

FYI... Changing the rim to bigger size or other than original size will only void the absorber warranty... if u change the sportrim following the orignal size and specs, shouldn't be a problem voiding the warranty...
Toyota have rights to void the warranty of any modification done in the vehicle if the complaint that you made on your vehicle related or cause by your modifications made...

Vios is CBU Thailand lahhh...Vios is not CKD-ed!


Well,dont you think the Vios now is expensive? Alot of ppl say its overpriced,thats bcause CBU frm thailand...

lol'ed at vios CBU from thailand
do u eventually have the source to support ur statement?

agree with u..if i wtbuy oso,my choice is j spec..

Since u hav the money .. get the better one bro

Vios made in Malaysia....if not you will have Puspakom sticker like Altis and Camry...so Vios is made by Perodua....confirm one...

it depends on what part. Tak kan the black steel rim is nice?

LeO, sorry to correct you but changing rim does void the warranty for suspension. Yea.. it may seems weird and absurd but it actually happened to me when i first changed my rim. My stock absorber kong and go toyota SC and they refused citing the 16" rim is too heavy causes the absorber to worn out (in less than 1 year new car). After much arguing, they finally replaced for me but things doesn't goes well too... as the same side gives problem again after a few months of driving. Finally got fed-up of it and change to coilover.

MT always have better FC.

of course warranty is not on whole car ... but is those parts that you mention ...

btw, even add those UR bars like anti roll bar also void the suspension warranty ...

by perodua or not i dunno.. but confirm vios made in malaysia

what makes u think that Vios is assemble in Thailand and what source u can prove that its asemble in Thailand...
Vios is solely assemble in Malaysia for Malaysia market... previos model, current model and future models...
The production plant in shah alam now mainly focus on Vios Assembly and they even installed advanced robotic equiptment in order to produce
higher volume and better quality control vios especially on this new vios.

very simple question to Vios owner... do u have AP for your Vios when registering? only CBU vehicle need AP... if ur Vios needs an AP to register then ur Vios is the 1 and the only unit which is CBU from Thailand...

Our local Vios is assembled in Shah Alam by Assembly Services under UMW Toyota

Thanks for correcting, but, if change to 15 inch rim (same size with stock G and S), will it still void the warranty for the abosorber?

if they wan to void it, why not?
later they said the dismantling procedure wrong la, diffrent weight la etc

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Added on July 14, 2008, 6:11 pmhey, i heard u got urself a vios?
why dont u ask ur salesman directly?

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Jul 14 2008, 06:11 PM

anyone test drive the manual vios ?? kind of interested in knowing the speed range of each gear.......

i'm waiting for my gen 2 to sell off first b4 i can get myself a vios.

Between J and S, i would say, go for J.
Use the additional cash for modification OR
put into your savings account! Times are bad now bro.....

About warranty, depends on how you going to take good care of it.

If you drill hole on your car body for bodykit installation, GT-Wing and spoiler, car body warranty void if I'm not mistaken. It's like if there's is something wrong with your car, car body rattling noise, they will not check for you because you are already drill a hole on it.

About wheels, if you change the wheels, suspension warranty void. Absorber leaking they will not claim for you. If you change your rim to other rim, when absorber leak, try to borrow or switch back to original rim then only go back to service center to claim.

All information above is I got it from my club.

Isn't those assembled Thailand also considered CKD??? Besides, you best bet is to check the manufacturer's statement. Even the Camry and Accord is CKD.

Anyhow, apart from that, those from ASEAN coutries have quite big differences in tax structure.

You might want to wonder Lancer CBU against Civic CKD?

absorber is consider as wear and tear, and wear and tear part got a short term of warranty period (1 - 3 months after get the car) ... check the booklet ...

act standrd till warranty finish..then change all..

You are having exact dilemma that I had when I decide to buy Vios.

My requirement was also same like yours;
- Only want black interior (beige is not my taste, I fell beige is family drive while black is sporty drive)
- Must be Auto (i had fed up with Malaysia's Highway Traffic especially peak hours, manual will make me more tired)

Further to that, I had few additional requirement;
- 4 Disc breaks as I drive like mad cow and strongly depend on the wheel breaks, it must not disappoint me.
- Maximum on it's class (this is because when I drive on street and another Vios comes close, I will definately compare my Vios to that, if in case I driving J while that Vios is G or S, I will fell sick! I won't get the satisfaction and will fell like losing in class while although I am driving Vios)

So, finally I end up falling in love with Vios S and got it already.

I fell it so nice, the car is flying me away! But still there is no way to compete with Honda City (vtec). But satisfaction is there!

But one thing I am sad until today about this Vios S is; "THE MOST STUPID PLAYER". Although it had the cool look, integrated control on steering, blasting 6 speakers but still so "back dated".

Believe or not that the MyVi premium (less than 50k) comes with integrated player that support Bluetooth and USB! How cool is that?

Toyota giving me only CD/MP3 player. Sick, no USB, no bluetooth, no dvd.

The worst part, I cannot change it! I tried googling around bout no luck, do any other Vios onwers knows how we can change Vios S integrated player and put simple DVD player?

I think Toyota should focus more in car entertainment because we Malaysian do care about it!

If Toyota had include DVD player in the S class and make the price 95k is also still worth it.

Conclusion:
- Go for J if you want to change to better player
- Go for S for class and breaking system

if u seldom go for highway or long distance trip, J variant is enough... but J variant need to change the sport rim.
bear in mind S and J variant with the gap of RM15k... so if u have decent budget, feel free go for full spec.
in term of depreciation, i think is about the same, calculating based on percentage. same goes theory but more expensive car will cost larger depreciation. same as buying a kancil u will lose smaller amout of money instead of buying 100k car.

halo everyone....
im waiting for my vios rite now....
i took deal for J manual....
n sumhow the salesperson told me dat i will not get my car for atleast another 1 o 2 month bcoz of a long Q...
did anyone get thier vios J oredi?
i mean manual???
n now can get my car to show off raya time...huhu

wahh??
one or two months time arr??
so long...
luckily my dad didnt bought the new vios...
if not raya my dad dunt have the car...
sure sapu my car one...

I'll never compromise on safety first. If I met with a terrible accident, that will be the time I am glad to have chosen NOT vios J model. Yes, you pay a premium for safety, but how can someone put a price on a life?

I'd rather suffer a few years paying the premium for a better model than enjoy a few short life then fall flat on my back. Think about it.

Hi all,

I took a J spec and ask the agent to take 2 days time to install everything for me befoe handing over the car to me:
1) Full TRD Exterior (a MUST if you want to feel special than others)
2) Rim15'
3) Audio system, MP3, bluetooth, USB
4) Tinted (with coupon)
5) Fog Light

Everything cost me around RM4000+ (have another extra RM10k to spare!! - can add GPS, improved alarm system, etc...)

Way cheaper than S class, and it's look totally awesome..!!

This post has been edited by apion007: Nov 8 2010, 09:51 PM

wait your picture dude

You forgot to add 2 airbags, better interior (leather), all round disc brakes... Drive more carefully ya cause the TRD kit won't help you drive better.

Don't worry, the current J spec is fit to my driving style

Inspira is a better car IMO. Smart guy get tits........

You'll need to also add optitron meter cluster, and multi-info display panel that could show avg FC, instantenous FC.

does your car still got warranty ?

s spec dont have in toyota website now, is this CBU unit ?

it's actually called "TRD Sportivo"

It depends. My family (include my relatives) own a few Vios. Only one of them is J spec, others is either G, G limited or TRD Sportivo. The J one is fitted with a lot of mods, others just so-so only.

This is one fierce looking dugong.

ohh ya..
now i see, TRD sportivo on the road.
btw thanks for info

I believe the higher spec has better NVH than the lower spec version due to extra dampening materials installed.