The DCDi Faroudja does not have the capabilites to allow the tweaking.

The HQV Reon is a more powerful chip and there are additional noise reduction and other features that you can play around to improve the picture if u deem necessary.

The HQV Realta also has the capability as does the Anchor Bay VRS.

Not that I know of. It has to be enabled by the AVRs. Yamaha does not give that option. I believe Yammy uses the ABT chip for scaling only right? I need to dig out the info.

The tweaks that I am talking about are normally Noise Reduction, Brightness, Contrast. On the new Onkyo 876 they enabled the Grayscale Calibration which is a 1st. Some others are Chroma, Hue among others.

Looks really cool.

The processing cannot be done in the BD60. However, it can bitstream the DTS-ES/EX codec to you AVR for processing. This is norm for almost all BD players.

Sounds like the DTS-HD MA bug. The firmware upgrade should be for the amp....

sky dragon = denon AVR?

Why?

Thanks for the explanation....

One another note, I was told that the Panny BD60 sold in Malaysia is regionfree for DVDs. Can anyone confirm that? That's good news.

While it is way below your budget of RM5K, I would advise you to try out the Oppo BD83. It was ranked 5th (compared to the Denon DVD-A1, Pioneer BDP09FD, Sony 3000ES and the Denon 3800) and with the rest almost 4-6X the price. I think it will complement ur 600M pretty well. You can even get it region free modded and it makes it pretty good at that point. It uses the VRS chip and has a Source Direct mode. You can get it from SLT Technologies in Spore for about SGD1K.

There are amps out there than can put out a Virtual Centre speaker, the only problem is that you would have to pre-out the 3 channels to the amp and there will be cables to conceal as well.... And it would be a true waste of your Z11 potential.

I am pretty sure that the BD60 shd upscale to 1080p. Pls check your settings. Also the BD60 shd be able to extract 24fps from a NTSC disc.

hi,
I hope you know that it is not regionfree out of the box. The Dune 1st version was made region free by a firmware hack. It will probably come soon, but it will take some time for the guys to enable that option.... Other than that enjoy the set....

It actually depends on dimension and weight. I know the Oppo (8kgs) shipping thru UPS/DHL/FedEx was around RM600-800....So don't be surprised if it comes to be the same as SGD899 in the end.

Oppo BD83 is USD499 and SGD999 (with region free mod).

Dune was USD499 (up till July31) and USD599 now. It can be bought in Spore as well.

When you say better, what do you mean? What are you looking for?

Dune is more of a Media Player with a BD drive. It uses Sigma Designs SOC. It plays almost all formats and supports E-sata. It is aimed at a different market.

Oppo is a BD player with limited media capabilities. It uses ABT VRS chip. It has superior deinterlacing and scaling.

For sure, but it depends on what the person needs. If it is used for only BD, then i think the Panny BD60 is good enuf.

ar188,
I have seen some BD players even mess up 1080p/24fps signals.

I left out some other stuff, but if you are interested there is a colour space conversion as well.

BD is encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0.

All BD players need to do some colour space conversion.

The signal needs to be converted and sent out in YCbCr 4:2:2 , 4:4:4, RGB 0-255 or RGB 16-235.

Some chips do this very badly. Some convert the signal to RGB then reconvert to YCbCr. Some do the other way.

Some of the other things that a BD player needs to do is chroma upscaling error detection/correction and if necessary frame rate conversion and progressive signal reprocessing.

As I said earlier, some BD players convert a 24Hz signal to a 60Hz signal and then reconvert it to 24Hz. I know fo 2 players that do this and they mess it up.

BD players are different. Its just that it will not be noticeable unless you look closely. It is more prominent in displays that exceed 60inches.

Thankfully, the PS3 is a very good BD player in terms of PQ. Most BD players get the stuff almost 90% right. The 10% wrong people don't normally see unless they look.

The Dune is one heck of a set, I would like to get my hands on one to test out its capabilities. If you are viewing media, one thing that is important is the ability to handle non standard cadences. The Oppo does this well even though it is not touted as a media player. I want to test the Dunes capabilites of handling odd cadences to see how if fares.

Will you see all this on a BD? No, so if all u need is a BD player, save ur money and get a Panny BD60! It will keep u satisfied for many years to come.

LG & Sharp BD players. LG is the older one. Sharp even the new ones had this problem.

ar188,

I agree. My advise as earlier is for people only viewing BD, get the Panny BD60, it more than enuf.

If u have larger screens and you are a person who is detailed and fussy, get the Oppo or Pioneer players (heck even the Denon USD4000 is ok for u).

If u need SACD, DVD-A and want good DVD upscaling get the Denon or the Oppo.

If u need a media player and a BD player, no question get the Dune!

Display is the primary component of the HT, BD players and all are secondary.