Hey i am planning to rear a guinea pig in my room. But do you know what kind of cage and bedding so that the bedding won't spill all over my room and odor not that strong? cheap and economical wan loe...

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 5 2008, 10:30 AM

Corn cobs? hehe. 25 bucks for a big pack if i remember. used to use them for my reptiles. absorbent too

hmmm..thanks.. i need more suggestions.. but no1 seemed to bother

n_n-->do not use corncorb for guinea pig...cos they eat the corncorb where later will caused hazard to thier health....

i m using zoozone2 and using chipsi as bedding...so far so good..no smelll.....but guineapig's pee n poo....wat i can tell u is...u better prepare...cos their poo n pee alot
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keke......do update me ya..if u getting ur rabbit or guinea pig...keke

how does the bedding look like.. the cage expensive mah? got a cheaper cleaner way or not? how many times must i change the bedding.. becoz i plan to keep in my room d..

you want to keep rabbit or guinea pig? your post confusing ler, title says rabbit but post say rabbitor guinea pig?? oh you meant rabbit OR guinea pig?

for rabbit just need a big cage and litter tray and if you dowan smelly, use woody pet in the litter tray.

I guess you gotta make up your mind whether you want a rabbit or a guinea pig. Cause i believe both need different stuffs and space. If you have decided, we might be able to give u a more accurate answer.

Cheers~ Wish you goodluck!

the cage itself 100-150

the bedding look lik those for hamster.....chipsi.....cost bout rm7.5 - 8 per pack....change it whn u c it over wet...

hmmm....normally rodent pee poo at one area..so u can train ur gp.....

gp n rabbit ned different nutrient..so u better do research on both...b4 u get one..keke

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Added on July 3, 2008, 12:10 pmyang-->i think she wan a guinea pig instant...haha.....congrate wor.....young entreprenuer...keke.....whn free...i go kacau kacau...keke

This post has been edited by jason86: Jul 3 2008, 12:11 PM

i can't made up my mind loe...if got guinea pig be given up for adopting,i take. if rabbit i take. I just want a companion when i study loe.. BTW i am staying in vista commonwealth. any idea if they let to keep small pets?

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Added on July 3, 2008, 12:12 pmand if i want to rear a rabbit what kind of cage must i get? can i just keep them in a box? will they bite?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 3 2008, 12:12 PM

keep fighting fish. small, easy to take care and they're cheap you can have fun whacking mosquitoes and watch them eat it.

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go read up on rabbits first before you get one. you'll know when they bite and when they won't bite.
NO WAY you can keep them in a box, so it's either a cage (a BIG one which costs about rm200+) or the rabbit sleeps with you.

IMHO, don't get a rabbit. even if ppl gives it out for adoption, they'll 'interview' you first to see if you're prepared for one and seeing that you're only living in a room, i don't think they'll let you have their rabbit. no offense.

try going for hamsters and guinea pigs or other smaller pets. rabbits also need a big space for them to run around.

This post has been edited by kenji_britney: Jul 3 2008, 12:18 PM

i dont really like keeping fishes. i have a weird phobia towards them. funny eh. thanks for suggesting!

I think no one bother because you can get a lot of information online. you just need to search harder.

You can read the first post in Rabbit Thread to begin with.

On the other hand, the best litter for me is Woody Pet pellets. Good luck with the rabbit in the room.

And there is a reason why the urine is smelly. Most of the time is due to DIET. Feed good pellet like Oxbow will help reduce odor.

Then again, if even before you want to buy something you already ask for cheap things, then I don't think your rabbit will ever have the luxury to use Woody Pet as litter material and Oxbow as food.

That is why I usually do not encourage people to keep pets if they cannot afford it. Coz in the long run, the pet will suffer greatly.

roughly how much does the bedding and food will cost..? how long they will last?

Woody Pet cost around RM20++ (dun know if the price went up or not)

(1) Bunny Basics 15/23 (for junior rabbit)
5 lb: RM 29.90 (Last 1 month for 1 rabbit)
10 lb: RM 45.90 (Last 2 month for 1 rabbit)

(2) Bunny Basics/T (for adult rabbit)
5 lb: RM 34.90 (Last 1 month for 1 rabbit)
10 lb: RM 55.90 (Last 2 month for 1 rabbit)

that's the estimation for the food IF you also feed unlimited HAY for your rabbit.

For young rabbit:
(1) Alfalfa Hay
15 oz: RM 19.90

For adult rabbit:
(6) Western Timothy
15 oz: RM 19.90
40 oz: RM 39.90

If you have done your research you will know that rabbit's staple food should be HAY not so much on the pellets.

sang terup-->wanna ask...the woody pet...izit turn into dust once it dry up after wet???

n_n-->having pet is not cheap...so u better think twice....those quality food for rabbit guinea pig damn expensive....1 packet cost u around rm20++...just a small packet....

yes Jason, the woody pet will turn into dust when it gets wet and when it dries up remains as dust. Very high absorbency and suitable for pets that pee a lot like rabbits. I have tried many litter materials before only to find Woody Pet has great absorbency. But make sure when you buy, it is in pellet form coz my last 2 packets are already in dust.

Also most rabbit/guinea pig food that cost a lot in the market still not good quality. For rabbits the best food that has the best nutritional value in the market now for me is Oxbow products.

This post has been edited by sangterap: Jul 3 2008, 12:56 PM

kinda sad...aix..its okie lah

sang terup-->oootq fro ur info..can u post soem of the woody pet look like photo???cos think of getting it...but heard tat it wil turn dust once get wet.so i scare it a bit messy since i wan to use it as bedding for my guinea pig...

those bedding ue for hamster wan cannot kah? rabbit can eat veggie d mah?? what's the diff???

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Added on July 3, 2008, 1:15 pmokie..lets say i got a big big plastic box... i put sum bedding and put water in it. food i alternate btwn ready made food and veggie..can mah?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 3 2008, 01:15 PM

n_n-->too much vege is a problem for rabbit.....those bedding for hamster not good enough...tat's y i wan to chnage to other type of bedding...since rabbit n guinea pig 's pee alot.....u change bedding at morning around 1-2 pm...the bedding start to b wet d...so very hard to maintain the cage dry all the time

really? will cause tummyache ah? they urine so much wan?? the bedding rm20+ can use how long?

Rabbits + Guinea Pigs, the moment they eat, they pee + poo, their digestive system is not like dogs / cats. So meaning, a dog or a cat might pee / poo say 3 times a day, rabbits / guinea pigs, keep on pee + poo continuously.

n_n,

Please go to rabbit threat page 1 for diet information. Woody Pet RM20++ can last around 1/2 to 1 month depending on how much you use. Normally if your rabbit is toilet trained and u use a litter tray then don't need so much of woody pet.

jason86,

Young rabbit below 6 months should not be given fresh vege. Please google for Woody Pet for photos.

White Palace,

I do not agree with what you say. Rabbit do not pee while they eat. Poo maybe but they can be litter trained to poo at 1 spot. So I do not think food goes straight from mouth and out of anus at one go as the food must be process first.

Sigh.... spoon feeding..... Guinea pig care can be found in the GP Thread.... rabbit care in the Rabbit Thread.... is it that hard to research?

Anyway, is your bed room that big to house a rabbit or guinea pig properly? Coz they do need space.... and their pee..... if kept in a room, it would stink up. How about your health?

You also have to think about the place..... they allow pets? If you get caught and ask you to either move out or give your pets away, which would you do? Sorry to be so direct but then I have seen many students jump into getting a pet before really thinking about the consequences. Some are great pet owners, some dump them in the end..... excuses are management don't let, house mate hate pets, poo and pee too stinky..... alot of excuses.

Both rabbits and guinea pigs are not easy to upkeep in a small room, and food and bedding..... and the smell?

it's ok. since no1 have faith in me then it's okie. i dno what to say. do you really think i did not try asking in the thread itself? nevermind. go on close the thread then

Both GP and Rabbit threads have informative 1st pages..... with your attitude like this, how to be a pet keeper? Just coz we don't have faith in you then you wanna close the thread?

People here advising you but you turn the wrong way. When someone is a bit hard on you then you leave..... sigh.... then how to keep a pet? Quite a number of people here are students, even me. Before I get a pet, I Goggle information, then I join forums to read what they have posted, all the infos that are mentioned in caresheets.... if you are determined to have a pet, you won't give up so easily.

Anyway, my previous post was to see how well you can cope with a pet in such conditions.... but you failed to answer properly.

i tried asking alot of ppl for days already alright. If i am irresponsible i would have throw my diabetic dog aside. if i am irresponsible i would have thrown my hamster aside.

I am sorry but i really want to rear a bunny. I just want to get a second opinion in anythg.

i just want a companion.

just somthing to keep me company.

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Added on July 3, 2008, 8:13 pmi am very sorry for the attitude. i am just kind of agitated. However there are ppl who rear rabbits in a room..do they?

My plan is to keep a huge plastic container. is that okie?

i tried finding in the cage but they din include alternative method.

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 3 2008, 08:13 PM

cool down man...keke

n_n...-->by the way..if u thik of keeping guinea pig in a room...still ok....u can get those cage which is designed for indoor...lik zoozone frm hagen

if for rabbit, i m not recommanded since their pee poo smell much more stronger thn gp's smell....so consider la...if got anything i can help or u ned help, just msn me at ah_tor@hotmail.com.....keke...me a student oso...

haha...as a student v pet is not tat easy...i have to move out from an apartment because of my dog, i hav no shopping since owning a dog and provide all the best for my pet even though i just eat bread...kaka......so if u really think tat is wat u wan...just continue...dont give up....

i plan to keep on fruit diet or just eat a little bit.. But i just want a more profitable way of keeping.

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Added on July 3, 2008, 8:26 pmzoozone expensive mah?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 3 2008, 08:26 PM

You'll find that a fruit diet will cost more than a pellet diet

haha...i mean me myself~ lol...

Ok, so you are a caring person.... but are you living in an area which allows pets? Coz I did have friends who have to give up their pets just because management chase them out..... My point is you have to make sure you can have a pet. Don't just say to keep you company, you also must consider the welfare of the rabbit or guinea pig.

Plastic container? If you are saying storage box.... NO.... never big enough. For a rabbit or guinea pig, they need big cages to be happy and comfortable. ZooZone2 is like RM140.... 3ft, which is like minimum for indoor keeping. You would be needing to clean the bedding every 2 to 3 days because of their pee.

cz i plan to take my bunny out to roam around the room..if you did say that they need to run around.. but 100=..too much bah?

A rabbit is easier to have because they can be litter trained..... but for indoor keeping, best is zoozone2 cage and yes, it is about Rm140. If you get normal cages, there is a possibility of pee and poo getting out of your cage or leak at the bottom.
Keeping a pet is never cheap. Must think about cages, hay, pellets, fresh food..... did you have all that in mind?

now the market price for cage is lik tis......consider cheap if u really think of getting a pet....so do consider....

zoozone2 =around 140
hay(quality) = around rm 20+
water feeder = rm15++
bedding =rm 20++
pellet =rm 15++
u ned all tis wh n u get gp or rabbit....

Beware though if you plan on letting your rabbit roam around the room.

Rabbits love to chew everything in sight. I've had my rabbits accidentally chewing on a power cord before until exposed the live wire, almost chewed the live wire. They can be very destructive. And a plastic container is definitely not suitable, unless you rig the container. You cannot keep a rabbit like you keep a hamster. You can;t put the bedding and let the rabbit sit on the bedding, its not hygienic and when the rabbit pees and the bedding gets wet (before it dries up), the rabbit will be uncomfortable and stressed. Believe me as I have kept a paralyzed rabbit for a short while, it is a full-time dedication to keep the rabbit dry. And a damp rabbit can get quite smelly.

And think about your own personal hygiene as well... if you really want a rabbit, talk to your housemates and see if they are open to the idea of having a rabbit in the living room instead of keeping it in your room, and get a proper cage.

Also you have to consider, the rabbit may be small when young but when it gets bigger you need a bigger cage for it. And an improper cage e.g. plastic container, the rabbit will just jump out and run away.

This post has been edited by djspinnet: Jul 3 2008, 08:42 PM

litter trained? really? like dogs?

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Added on July 3, 2008, 8:47 pmby the way one rabbit can grow up to how big?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 3 2008, 08:47 PM

You have to research on the breed of rabbits that is available in the market to know their sizes. There are many breeds in the entire world combined. In Malaysia only a few. Please go do your research.

Thanks for pointing out, i guess i'm the one should've do more research before simply answer.

IMHO, a rabbit won't be suitable for your room.

1. room is too small a place for a rabbit.
2. the destruction caused by a rabbit in a small room.. imagine one day you come back from class finding your notes shredded up, bed linens ripped apart, and worse still the rabbit eat your wires and then you end up seeing a dead bunny O_O
3. the smell accumulated in a small room can be quite disasterous, what if one day you brought a girl/guy to your room then 'OMFG what's that smell??' you'll blow your chance of ever getting a gf/bf lol.
4. cost, cages + accessories + food are pretty expensive, especially for a student.
5. so many other reasons as stated above..

you said you have a hamster, how come you're not keeping that hamster with you then? isn't 1 hamster enough to keep you company?

lol...comical,and i have had a bf already. he can stand the smell of my diabetic god peeing all over the wel newspaper if i am not at home. I understand what you mean.

Actually i am planning. But she bite me like aggresively everytime i handle her. my fingers got how many wounds liao. have to use thich glose to hold her somemore.

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Added on July 4, 2008, 10:30 ampicture of the plastic box. ignore the piglt it's just for size comparing





lets say if rabbit cannot guinea can mah?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 4 2008, 10:30 AM

really inappropriate place for a rabbit or guinea pig

something wrong with this page..wtf..where all the stuff i posted in tis topic..this not the one..suppose to be 116 page in here. im so geram...cant read all important story in here

This post has been edited by gilz.hippy: Jul 4 2008, 05:23 PM

definitely too small for a rabbit and totally inappropriate.

i mean guinea...

get those cages for guinea pig better, i'm not sure about how to take care of guinea pigs though. so better that you look around the guinea pig thread to see what is suitable for a guinea pig starter kit. or you can look here : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/727957

ican't rear there mah? how big is big...? that box very big dy loe..like seriously

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Added on July 5, 2008, 10:05 amhmm....cz i compare my friends guinea pig and mine..very big dy loe...gt alot of space

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Added on July 5, 2008, 10:31 amyo! i just change my post...final desicion GP tho very tempted to get rabbit..but its ok lah

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 5 2008, 10:31 AM

glad that you took our advice, rabbits would be suitable next time when you have your own home then you can let the rabbit run around and play in the garden, it'll be much happier that way (i've witnessed it myself).

also, my rabbit doesn't like to be caged up when she's active. during the evening when i bring her back to the cage, she'll bite the cage as though wanting to go out and play somore but she'll stop after a while and know that it's time to rest. same thing happens in the morning before i let her out. keep biting and jumping around the cage. then when i open the cage she happily hop out and run everywhere lol. rabbits need all the space they can get in order to be a happy bunny ^^

as for GP, i can't help you there really. need the GP experts point of view lol. good luck!

This post has been edited by kenji_britney: Jul 5 2008, 10:52 AM

I think the container u post is too small for a guinea pig oso...
u have to plan other way to keep guinea pig....

here is my cage for Guinea pig..
do consider DIY urself..
coz it cheaper.....n trust me..
i keep them in my room oso.....







There are alots of thing u need to consider b4 u get Gp oso...
pallet n hay.....
the budget u need....
really plan well 1st....
don rush ....

wah the GP won't jump over ah? so kuai wan..

haha...mine 1 seldom jump out..
except i go to class....
n they see i not around..
then they only jump out n run around my room.....
but vry seldom..
coz big enough for them to run ......

A guinea pig cage should be a minimum of 2ft x 1 ft. Guinea pigs are bigger than hamsters and need to at least walk around your cage to exercise. Even with 2ft x 1ft they need some flooring time to stretch their legs.

For more information, please read th guinea piig's thread first page and you may continue asking questions there.

The only good way to keep the guinea pig clean is by cleaning the poo and pee. Toilet train your guinea pig and clean the toilet once a day. Clean the cage and everything once a week. Bathe the guinea pig once in about 3 weeks. Remember to clip the nails because GP nails continuously grow. If possible, comb your GP's hair as often as possible (once a day is good) to lessen down the amount of fur shedding.

DIY??? can you show me how?? they wont's chew on the cardboard mah?? I am really really interested. as for the budget i am on my way wo planning already..so no worries...

Yes i had read the thread. and i do understand some details. as for some i am still blur..

look at the cage...

the floor is floor mat... so that they wont get hurt...
and the waste there u can put the wooden to suck all the pee and smell...
all the pee and poo will drop, and they wont step on their pee n poo...

thats the best for ur GP...

because the wooden dust might harm ur GP and their private part...

be sure uhave time to adopt, if not... they wont healthy and wont close to u...
good luck GP lovers...

okie.. the plan..i try to diy my "cage" then fill it with woodpine/chipsi den put floormat on top of the woodpine/chipsi. is that it?

u can find how to do it in this website...
http://www.guineapigcages.com/
jus buy coroplast n cut ...
then it will become a cage..

gosh! thank thank! my savior!!!!

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Added on July 7, 2008, 9:30 amokie.. the plan..i try to diy my "cage" then fill it with woodpine/chipsi den put floormat on top of the woodpine/chipsi. is that it?

This post has been edited by n_n: Jul 7 2008, 09:30 AM