i need a guitar tutor ..
i am live in kepong..

i would like to know anyone want to teach me ??

thank you ...

u can ask my former sifu to teach you. His name is ninelives1980..........

Try Play By Ear
http://www.playbyear.com.my

Recently, they just launch Electric Guitar Classes.
But the Guitar course is not really "Play By Ear" method as this course is more on the mastery of the instrument.

I went to their seminar last Saturday, the tutor is a famous guitarist nicknamed "Tik", real name known as Sulaiman. In the seminar they explain the difference between Acoustic & Electric Guitar and why choose Electric Guitar, etc. and also on the course.
Later there is a clinic where participants can get "treatment" from the "doctor" to assess their skills and what they're lack of, etc. You'll be surprise you much you actually know about the guitar when you're being accessed or test by him~ well, unless of course, you're already very good.

Cut story short, you can try calling them, they have a branch in Kepong area, and they can acces you and you can decide whether to take up the course or not.
No harm checking out, if it benefits you then you just found the right "KEY". If you don't even try to have a look on it, and if it's REALLY good, you just missed out something. Simple as that.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 30 2008, 10:07 AM

thanks guys..

by the way ,
[vogue]angel ,
do u have his num ??
tq

I'm also interested to look for one.
Please share the number when you have it.
Best if someone from around Kelana Jaya area that willing to teach at night or weekend. I don't mind if you just play for leisure and doesn't necessary being super skillful as long as you are comfortable and able to guide me till I can read and play some intermediate music. I once learn how to play with simple Am, C, G , F, Em with some lame strumming from a book.

But before that I need to get the guitar I inherited fix and keep pressing it until my fingers comfortable to it. I know the first 1-2 weeks will be painfull as hell before it grows a new layer of skin.

May I know where to buy a new set of strings and cost roughly how much or should I just dump the old guitar and get a new ciplak one? I live nearby to Kelana Jaya Giant. Can I ask the shop to tune it for me?

it's up to you dude.
how much passion you have.
if only to improve you can get a new ciplak one.
and i think it's always good to start with somewhere your level.
it's for the fact that you will appreciate it more when you get better and try other better guitar.
it's how guitarist grow up.
i think so.

and to fix that guitar, you need little knowledge too.
it's good to try it out.
up to you.

hmm im still deciding whether i should teach(classical/acoustic)...
i have enough experience and qualification(not up to diploma, but meh) and can probably teach beginner to intermediate, but not sure if the time would suit me... i'm probably only free on weekends though... =/

play by ear ...


is a super money making scheme ...and a wannabe super business plan ..
what type of commission also got ..referral , transfer ..


how i know?
i used to teach for them

its harder / more irritating to teach beginners

lol... i dun mind taking the irritating job though..
I just dun have a proper qualification to do it.. i m considering getting one now at classical guitar or electric.

That's because it's very hard for them to get business.
They have to find ways to get more student.

The important point is, their method works and it's really useful.
Just like his formula for formulating chords and everything. Who know it's so simple?

Plus, what they're teaching is the method to create music and not just plainly learn a single song.
You get to learn the basics of creating music, etc. With that skill, you can play almost any song you want. Rather than someone who take few years, only to learn the few songs, but cannot play others; because they're learning songs and not how music works.

Their guitar course is more on the mastery of the instruments, so it's not so much on play by ear method. I went for the seminar and did not plan to signup the course cause it's a different way of learning compared to play by ear.
The guitar course is very systematic, and teaches and train a person in mastering the guitar.
All I can say is that he's really good, I've seen my guitar friend in performer level already, but if he were to be accessed by the instructor, my friend would've find out more on his own skills.
Basically the instructor stressed a lot on mastery chords and scales, and how you can manipulate and master it.

Talk much is useless, nothing beats looking at it yourself, it's free anyway. If they want to make money, they would've charge people, plus, the owner would've been VERY rich today, but is he?

yeah or so ive heard, but i don't really mind i guess... besides, somebody has got to start somewhere right? lol

@andy214
dude, gapnap just said he has worked for them before thats why he knows such things, did you really had to start such argument?
besides, i don't have anything against play-by-ear, but they're only teaching relative pitch and some basic theory which you eventually will learn in formal training anyways..

edit: my 200th legal post jaja~

This post has been edited by Ryuuga: Jul 1 2008, 12:22 PM

lol... am i suppose to congratulate u ryuuga?

well...i think there is no such thing as "1 method that works for everything"
everybody has their own method of learning music that works for them ..
some of them through play by ear of , some by Internet and youtube , some by college like ICOM etc...

agree ?

play by ear method works for certain people ..not all ..of course i have seen beginners that went from zero to hero through play by ear ..at the same time , i have seen people who took the course and still have no clue about music ..

so thats why , for me , play by ear is just a franchise ..do you have RM130,000? click
here to find out more about play by ear

This post has been edited by gapnap: Jul 1 2008, 02:10 PM

Ryuuga,

Argument? You call that argument?
I'm just explaining things and clearing things up.

Based on your judgement, it seems you based your statement without even knowing about the courses and the method they teach.

My point is, instead of just saying what you think by knowing a little, why not understand more before coming to conclusion and confused others?

Their "Play by Ear" are teaching using the piano/keyboard as it's an easy instrument to start off. They'll guide a person to learn how to create music from there, from playing melody, creating chords and such.

Nobody forces anyone to learn but I'm just here providing information there is such things and worth checking out. If you're not interested then just ignore it, right?

If people don't have anything against it, why bother critisizing it, worst when they doesn't know much about it?
It's just an additional choice for a person who wants to learn music, nobody say "don't learn classical/conventional/formal", right?

I'm just sharing information here, that there is such things and roughly explain a little bit on what is it about and such.

As for gapnap, yes, they do have these referral things, even they give it to the students, but it's NOT a must to find referral. Plus, if you do, you get discounts or some sort of benefit.

Lastly, I did not EVEN ask anybody to say I "introduce" so I could get the benefit, I'm just here to share some information.

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Added on July 1, 2008, 2:33 pmgapnap,

Yes, but like I said, no harm checking it out, right?
Did I say, "please take the course"? No right?
I just say, it's free and you can see for yourself if it's right for you. Plus, it's an additional knowledge, who knows, one might find it useful?

As for the method, they also mentioned themselves it doesn't work for everyone, right?
They have a "refund" scheme, but I don't really trust these things either anyway.
But most importantly, one has to really practice and if it sitll doesn't work then one can argue the method doesn't work, right?

As a student, I feel the course is very short, there's only 20 classes for Level 1, with 1 hour every class.
1 Hour wouldn't be enough if the student is new to piano, he/she will be struggling to play the piano.
Secondly, you only have 1 week to practice if you choose weekly classes (sometimes I push to 2 weeks, especially for Level 2).
20 classes with weekly classes, you'll complete in 6 months. It's fast, but one could opt for completing in maximum 1 years time.

Next I would also say the instructor, during my Level 1, the instructor wasn't a true Play By Ear tutor, she was a classical piano teacher, but she tries to apply Play by Ear teaching method to me.
In my Level 2, the piano teacher is a real "Play By Ear" method tutor, from there I learn a lot and found out I miss a lot in Level 1.

But since you have been a teacher/tutor there, I believe you know about their teaching method and the formulas like R+4+3. That's a great formula and method, it's does not only applies to Play by Ear anyway. It's just a formula for Major Chords.
Plus, what they teach are teaching someone how music works and how to make music, rather than learning a single song. That way, one can later play many song which he/she likes without needing people to teach, refer to notes, etc.
Am I right?

Yes, ithey're doing franchise. They're trying to expand their business, but does that mean they're scam or just plainly marketing?
No right? I kinda know the founder after attending his seminars, he wish to build up more musician and also let people have a choice and chance to learn music. He only have 3 centre now, how does you expect him to pass on knowledge/opportunity to students elsewhere, which I believe you should know that many have inquired for years.

Of course, as usual, it's also a business, so even in the seminar, he always give these and that offer (usualyl for that day only), people doesn't like it, even if the seminar it's free, but it's still a business afterall.
The point is, he doesn't force anyone to take up the course, offer, etc. Right?

As a plus, this franchise an opportunity for people who wish to run these business too. Is there a problem with someone who wish to expand their business?
Maybe their rules, benefit and such does not sound good, or too expensive.

But hey, wait a minute? Anybody want to join their franchise? Is anyone not happy due to not able to join their franchise or something?
We're talking about their course right?

Anyway, as I mentioned, I'm just sharing information about their course, what I find it's good and worth checking out, have a look and JUDGE for yourself. Nobody forces anybody.
I don't get any benefit or noble prize nor do they know I'm promoting their business here.




This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 1 2008, 02:42 PM

andy214, ur statement sounds very aggresive for a "non-argument", no offense dude
just chill out, to each their own. Different people learn and perceive music differently. If everyone has the same mindset and perception, there would only be one music. Thats all, everyone listen to the same thing, play the same way, 'feng tao' to the same sh!t...

mind clarify if this "R+4+3" is equivalent to root+sus4+major 3 to get a major chord?

No problem and sorry if I sound agressive, but I was clearing things out. I was just sharing some information which i find is good and useful. It's just sharing of information for everyone.

Yes, everyone learn and percieve differently, that's why I never say this is the best or this sure works or anything, right? I'm just sharing that there is such things, just like everyone else, sharing what they know or even introducing the instructor they find/think is good.
Nobody forces/say which one is the best right?
Just like sometimes when you go out and yum cha with your friend, he planning to buy something, then you recommend something. Whether it's good or not or really interest or useful to him/her, it's up to him/her, right?

I just add another word is, why not check it out, it's free anyway. Because as you know, many are sceptical or doesn't even want to have a look or understand what it is and conclude something. Am I right?

Basically, the course is just teaching ppl in different ways. Just like any instructor, they have their own ways of teaching too. Just like sometimes you teach someone and he/she simply cannot understand, you try different method/ways/approach to teach. The founder has develop a method is useful and good and effective. It's enough for people who wants to learn to play music for leisure/fun/etc. They also stated it's not suitable for classical and such.

Anyway, the Guitar course I mentioned is not really a Play By Ear course, it's more of a mastery course by a guitar instructor who has a lot of experience, worked with RTM before, and also work with many artists, etc.
I find he's good and worth checking out, so I'm just sharing the information here.

Yes, the "R+4+3" is the formula to get major chord. Don't need sus4 or major3, just R+4+3, simple enough.
Anyway, there're many different formulas intepretation, I read in another book, it have a different intrepretation/formula.

Lastly, I just want to share, it is always good to know how other people teach, the methods, etc. It's always good to learn more. Just as we normally find some intructor is good and some not so, but it's always good to know how they teach, what method/approach they use, etc. Just like this course, I find it interesting how they teach and let people learn.
I'm just sharing this information; whether it's really good or not or suitable for you, judge for yourself.
Plus, anyway, they don't charge for their seminars (except you have to listen and see some marketing there, like "Today only, if you sign up, RMXX off, etc. Well, just get used to it, it's also a business anyway)

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 1 2008, 05:29 PM

http://guitar-lessons.faithweb.com/ . Here is his website. But if you plan to learn fast from him, your going to be in a surprise. I spend 1 month learning the correct way of strumming and changing the chords smoothly. learn from him 6 months then stop coz no $$$$ liao.

But he's good as a teacher. but if you plan to learn Paul Gilbert or Petrucci style shredding, then he is not your type of teacher.

Ryuunga, it's good to hear you wanting to teach beginners. when u see them succeed or manage to progress. You will feel happy

bout the ear training, looks kinda fun. but it all depends on the studentlar.........

lol not rly.. i know your legal posts doubles mine, still, if they had counted all those post in kopitiam and such i would probably be around 700 lol(maybe not)
oops out of topic pulak... >.<

uhh... sorry dude I always get caught up with debating lingo, so every point in a discussion is an argument for me... i didnt mean an argument literally... bah...
and, I know fully well what your point is and where you are heading with this discussion. I didn't say its not useful either, in fact, my dad used to learn play by ear. I think, most veterans in this forum probably have gone through, or at least knows people who play by ear. As such, most of us already know what is it about, but its is nice of you to try to introduce some different methods to newcomers.
As I said, we don't have anything against it(dunno about gapnap though xD) but we probably just prefer formal training or self training.
Also, i second Mr Z on you being tad too aggressive, and there are many flaws to your points but i shall not dwell on that as i have said enough.

Ultimately, it is to each his own, some might find play by ear very helpful and some might not.

lol I'm not the shredding type too.. >.< thanks for the encouragement ^^

BTW Mr. Z, you don't really need qualifications as long as you can play well

This post has been edited by Ryuuga: Jul 1 2008, 11:57 PM

Ryuuga: Hmmm.. i can teach basic stuff.. nothing too complicated, get people started and stuff along those line as i m still learning to be a better player myself..

alright, good that everyone understand that we each have our own opinion in regards to things. No point starting endless debates where no one wins, we get our point laid out, and let the reader decides.

So everybody reconcile and just chill out. We can continue staring blankly at the screen now.

Cmon' many of us will think each other's statement has flaw especially when one doesn't agree. But please understand that we're here to provide information to TS, right?

What do you mean most veterans here already gone through "play by ear?
Are you sure?

You dad use to learn play by ear?

Wait wait, do you mean, they learn themselves or some "play by ear" thing? Or do they go through the courses offered by THIS company "Play by Ear"?
http://www.playbyear.com.my

If it's the company, whoa, are you sure? I've been introducing this "Play by Ear" in this forum from quite long ago and haven't found anybody knowing about it, other than ignoring it or flaming it.
Only 1 or 2 (I think) has actually go and see it, and I know one of them who is finishing Level 1."?

Formal? They have their own system and formal training, except they don't teach in traditional ways using notes, that's all. What they do is simply a different approach, via hearing and feeling.

But, yes, if one wants to really learn more about music or classical, they should attend normal/conventional classes which teach them step by step.
As I also explain in every of my Play By Ear post, it's a opportunity for those who just want to learn some ability to play music for leisure/fun/etc.
Is there anything wrong for these people who wants to learn like this?
If you notice, many people will comment request them to go through the conventional courses, which many people doesn't have any interest.
Like I said, they should know what they actually want.

Plus, the guitar course has hardly any relation to play by ear.
It's just a course offered by them working together with the tutor.
The tutor is still using the systematic method developed by some music college/uni in US (I think, can't remember the name).
I attended, I don't plan to learn, but I find he's good and also based on how the evaluates and check on the guitarist during the clinic, so I just introduce here since there is such thread.

Have you seen him? Maybe he's good or maybe he's not for you, but I'm just sharing here.
Just like how you guys share info on you propose instructor.

Now I seriously think it's the word "Play by Ear" that's triggering such an event.

Anyway, I also don't understand what we're doing here. We're here to provide information for TS.
I seriously feel it's funny when you providee some information and it comes to this.
As I've mentioned, if you don't like it or not interested then just let it be.
If I want, I can also comment on each instructor proposed Then I think the person who were just here to give some information will be like "What the???"

i am too lazy to read your long article ..anyway ...i saw this ..

haha...and how much did you paid for it ?

yes, in fact, im very sure veterans here have been well informed about playing by ear and the COMPANY/FRANCHISE playbyear, thus stop treating us like little kids as if we play the guitar but don't know what are guitar stings

yes, my dad used to take LESSONS in playbyear COMPANY/FRANCHISE

by formal training, i meant classical teaching methods. PLUS reading notes is not a TRADITIONAL way. are you trying to say learning ABC before you learn how to read is TRADITIONAL method?

like ive said before, i don't have anything against play by ear methods, there is nothing wrong whatsoever, it is entirely up to individual to choose what kinds of course they would be most comfortable with but the way you are introducing it strongly portrays the image of someone who is persuading others to join some religious society. In other words, aggressive.

I'm sorry to hear not many people know about it. but thats your problem, not mine. If you would've introduced it in a nicer way, perhaps, more people would be persuaded to join your "religious society"

I believe the TS is trying to find a guitar tutor in Kepong.Not long rants whether a certain music school is good or not.

lol... we ve sidetracked too far away..
lets just stop before the thread got closed down...

i took a ear training subject as an option in uni, nice american system
well it was an easy A, but it was boring as hell.
lecturer played a stupid root note on piano, then u transcribe a stupid piece that he played.
then sing by sight reading also...crapness...if i wanted to sing something like baa baa black sheep i would growl thru it.

anyway, for the TS.
havent said wat u wanna learn yet.
classical / simple songs / malmsteen...

btw, where has the TS gone? everyone scared the TS away?


and ryuuga...im confused by this...
thought u learn ABC first before learning to read?

Okay, that's something new cause all these while, everyone has been so blur and misunderstood about this "Play by Ear"' company/franchise and their method of teaching. Sincerely.

When in the world did I treat veteran like kids who don't know what guitar strings are???
I am GIVING suggestions to TS. Whether he/she is veterans or not, I'm not sure, but does giving suggestions = treating veterans like kids who don't know what guitar strings are?
Plus, when Ii talk about "play by ear", I'm explaining about their teachings so that people who didn't ACTUALLY know about it can understand what it's like.
Obviously, I NEVER mentioned it works for EVERYONE, RIGHT?

Which phrase did I persuade???
I did use some "STRONG" words like "IF YOU HAVEN"T TRY, YOU MIGHT MISSED A GOOD OPPORTUNITY"
Because, people tend to have misconceptions about the course and/or people who don't know about the course not believing it, sceptical, etc. I never EVEN said, 'you SHOULD try the course'
I just said You should HAVE A LOOK or attend the seminar", NEVER said "TRY TAKING THE COURSE". Get my facts right.

Allright, let's turn the table around then, it looks more that someone is afraid the "RICE BOWL" being stolen or something.
Learning music doesn't always have to be the ONE and ONLY classical method, BUT from my previous Play by Ear post up till now, the person who argued always say one should LEARN the classical way and LEARN to LOVE classical.
Is that the way? That, to me, if FORCING and PERSUADING people to took ONLY classical if they want to learn music or just want to play an isntrument for leisure/fun/etc.

When I say TRADITIONAL, I'm referring to TRADITIONAL vs MODERN.
MODERN methods are like "Play By Ear", and MANY more other modern method you can find from the internet.
The TRADITIONAL (Conventional) is the ORIGINAL STANDAR method developed and PROVEN, whatever you want to called it.
And NO, you don't need to learn to READ to play music.
Music is about hearings and feelings, not reading or sight seeing.
Notes actually come when someone is writing down the notes and chords for their song, it's an AFTER process.
That's why MOST modern methods approach via hearings and feelings.

Whatever, it's wasting my time here; It's either it's "Malaysian" people or simply "LYN"-ians, pathethic man.

I could easily say, "hey, go take OFFICIAL course from Yamaha instead of learning from THESE people, because of XXX reasons, or whatsoever". Anybody could say anything.

Like I said, I was just introducing the guitar tutor who is hired by Play by Ear company. I shouldn't just drop the word "Play by Ear" and drop the hassle. It seems people are simply prejudice/sceptical or have a thing for it.
Whenever there is a word "Play By Ear' mentioned, there must be someone like this to say something wierd and out of place and simply judge that one is working for the company/forcing people to take it/whatever, when actually it was just a suggestions following by explanation of what the course is about in detailed.

I just giving a choice and suggestions to those who might want to learn to play an instruments for fun/leisure and don't plan to go through years of training and exams, etc.
I'm part of the community who just want to learn music for leisure/fun, in fact, there're many who are, mind you; but still not everone would want to take up the course despite they are part of the community. While there are people who doesn't know about it, and tought that there's only the classical method.
Go read up about "Scott Houston", if CAN, be a little more hardworking, go watch his video about "Play Piano In A Flash" to understand more.
It seems more that there're people who are not willing to accept others out there and not willing to learn more of accept there're things that might be better or so. Or simply just can't accept people who is able to learn fast, while they're taking so many years to do it.

Musicians,... one would've tough the art and music world are very open, caring and always sharing information. Perhaps it's only here.

Give it up already "lah", you guys continue what you want.
Whatever la, I'm persuading, I'm bs'ing, I'm ignorant, I don't accept others opinions.
Let it be "lah". You guys are the best "lah". I end my argument in great shame and defeat.

Just to add some quote from a great movie about music:
Mr. Holland's Opus
"Playing music is supposed to be fun. It's about heart, it's about feelings, moving people, and something beautiful, and it's not about notes on a page. I can teach you notes on a page, I can't teach you that other stuff. "

"A teacher has two jobs; fill young minds with knowledge, yes, but more important, give those minds a compass so that that knowledge doesn't go to waste."

"If You Can't Teach a Willing Student Like Louis Russ to Bang a Drum, Then You Are a Lousy Teacher"!

ouch..
i think you are only arguing with 1 or 2 people here..need to insult the whole country , or the whole LYN and call us pathethic meh?


now who is jumping to conclusion too fast ?

well , don't worry , its a good thing that you think you are different . i think you are different too !

This post has been edited by gapnap: Jul 3 2008, 09:50 AM

what i was implying was, you most definitely have to learn ABC before you read, thus you have to learn to read notes to enjoy/play/hear music as well. It certainly isn't a "traditional" method, but its a learning process.

I lol-ed at this
Have to admit, to some extent it is true, yet, imagine a world without music notes =/ If we never had to read them, they never should've existed in the first place.

hmm i wonder whoever was opposing you... i certainly didn't, i merely laid out my points and i believe i have clearly stated that "i have nothing against PBE method" just that, because i started with the "conventional" method, I decide to stick with it. period.
whenever was there an "argument"?

hello to all sifus..
just wanna "tumpang" this thread la..
i'm kinda interested to learn on how to play bass..
but i'm a guitar noob..
so, can i just learn on how to play bass or i should learn guitar 1st??
btw, i need some suggestion on taking the lesson..
should i take lesson for basic or learn basic on my own and take lesson for higher level?
thanks in advance

lol, everytime andy214 trys to promote play by ear,sure kena slam kau kau.

This post has been edited by raindrops: Jul 5 2008, 05:11 PM

hi, its good to hear you are interested to take up a new skill ^^
personally, i feel that if you want to play bass you should go to a bass teacher.
Reasons being bass is a more rhythm based instrument(ties strongly with drums) whereas guitar is a more solo/melodic instrument.
It doesn't matter if you don't know how to play guitar, you'll be taught all the basics when you get there.

i also strongly feel that you should learn the basics from a qualified teacher, then when you feel confident, slowly develop your own style of playing.
you definitely should NOT do it the other way around, this is: learn basics by yourself, then only look for a teacher. Because when you do it like this, you are bound to develop "bad habits" that are difficult to change.
Its always better to let a qualified teacher teach you the correct ways of playing to produce a nice tone first. Everything else comes later ^^

hope that helped

really ? not the first time ?

got link to other threads ?

hi there
thanks for the reply
btw do you know any bass teacher around Selayang/Kepong/Gombak/PJ??

and just wanna ask for suggestion, i saw one of the forumer using zoom b2.1u and then use a headphone..
say, for a beginner, should i get that pedal or just buy an amp?

thanks in advance

sorry, unfortunately i know very few bassists =/
pure bassists are really rare in KL, even in the forum you can see overloading guitarists and pianists. There are bassists who are originally guitarists though.

My 2cents, if you however stumble across a bassist teacher, grab hold of him/her. lol they're like shooting stars, you'll never know when you'll stumble across another one heh ^^

oh and get an amp >_> i never believed in headphones for my guitar xD i'd rather get that small amp that fits in your pocket than a headphone for my guitar xD

totally agree............. it's all about technique....... with good technique, you can play better and progress further. I remember someone called flybass. he's the bassist for the band Funk Mob. A lecturer for Uitm.

I'm not sure if he teaches bass or notlar. But he's a bassist. not guitarist turn bassist.

another one is Meng of Estranged. i doubt he has time to teach now

That is because you kena con already.. He purposely prolong the lessons so he can earn more from you.

Either that, or you are really that bad.



Wah, who is this Andy214? Type really long essays ya? Dont think anybody will bother to read all heheh..

hahahaha...i like this post ..

anyway , what is the correct way of strumming ? as long as you are in time ..any type of strumming also can right ...

agreed gappy,
of course, you need to have rhythm too, with that, strumming will comes naturally nice sounding.

But i find focusing totally one month on strumming is abit too much.

just to share thread as well, all the pros and taikos, what should i learn now? i already master most of the widely use chords not those complicated and some strumming pattern for a long time and my progress seems to stop cause i am lost what to learn next and where to learn. btw i m a self taught begineer.playing accousitc i feel that those who play note by notes in acoustic is very nice to hear. how can i manage to get those skills? what to practice?? thx for the input in advance

lol, completely agree.
and u cant be that bad that u cant strum properly.

you can start by learning some single note playing songs to develop your technique and major/minor scale ...

lol, mayb i got con. Anway, getting con is another issuelar. If he wants to earn more, he would charge me extra if i overshot the time. Anway, unloco, u shouldn't say purposely like wanna he wanna con people

Still don't get it do u..? Just like our "go vernment".. Raise petrol and pacify us with subsidy. Like he pacify you with "not charging" with over-time. But already earning so much extra from u from the "extra extra months" he made u waste on learning strumming alone.

If he could actually play paul gilbert stuff he would already be teaching you that during your 6th month. But he can't, so he have to make u stay longer, or you would have already left anyway.

Complete beginner+Paul Gilbert after 6 months=

hahahaha............. learn paul Gilbert stuff after 6 mth? mayb because I slowlar, need the extra lessons to help. Unloco? u teach guitar or play guitar ar?

i have a friend who teaches guitar... very flexible hours... reasonably price..
location is in kepong though he would try to accommodate your request.

pm me for his details ya...

pm me if any1 need guitar teacher