i need a guitar tutor ..
i am live in kepong..

i would like to know anyone want to teach me ??

thank you ...

u can ask my former sifu to teach you. His name is ninelives1980..........

Try Play By Ear
http://www.playbyear.com.my

Recently, they just launch Electric Guitar Classes.
But the Guitar course is not really "Play By Ear" method as this course is more on the mastery of the instrument.

I went to their seminar last Saturday, the tutor is a famous guitarist nicknamed "Tik", real name known as Sulaiman. In the seminar they explain the difference between Acoustic & Electric Guitar and why choose Electric Guitar, etc. and also on the course.
Later there is a clinic where participants can get "treatment" from the "doctor" to assess their skills and what they're lack of, etc. You'll be surprise you much you actually know about the guitar when you're being accessed or test by him~ well, unless of course, you're already very good.

Cut story short, you can try calling them, they have a branch in Kepong area, and they can acces you and you can decide whether to take up the course or not.
No harm checking out, if it benefits you then you just found the right "KEY". If you don't even try to have a look on it, and if it's REALLY good, you just missed out something. Simple as that.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 30 2008, 10:07 AM

thanks guys..

by the way ,
[vogue]angel ,
do u have his num ??
tq

I'm also interested to look for one.
Please share the number when you have it.
Best if someone from around Kelana Jaya area that willing to teach at night or weekend. I don't mind if you just play for leisure and doesn't necessary being super skillful as long as you are comfortable and able to guide me till I can read and play some intermediate music. I once learn how to play with simple Am, C, G , F, Em with some lame strumming from a book.

But before that I need to get the guitar I inherited fix and keep pressing it until my fingers comfortable to it. I know the first 1-2 weeks will be painfull as hell before it grows a new layer of skin.

May I know where to buy a new set of strings and cost roughly how much or should I just dump the old guitar and get a new ciplak one? I live nearby to Kelana Jaya Giant. Can I ask the shop to tune it for me?

it's up to you dude.
how much passion you have.
if only to improve you can get a new ciplak one.
and i think it's always good to start with somewhere your level.
it's for the fact that you will appreciate it more when you get better and try other better guitar.
it's how guitarist grow up.
i think so.

and to fix that guitar, you need little knowledge too.
it's good to try it out.
up to you.

hmm im still deciding whether i should teach(classical/acoustic)...
i have enough experience and qualification(not up to diploma, but meh) and can probably teach beginner to intermediate, but not sure if the time would suit me... i'm probably only free on weekends though... =/

play by ear ...


is a super money making scheme ...and a wannabe super business plan ..
what type of commission also got ..referral , transfer ..


how i know?
i used to teach for them

its harder / more irritating to teach beginners

lol... i dun mind taking the irritating job though..
I just dun have a proper qualification to do it.. i m considering getting one now at classical guitar or electric.

That's because it's very hard for them to get business.
They have to find ways to get more student.

The important point is, their method works and it's really useful.
Just like his formula for formulating chords and everything. Who know it's so simple?

Plus, what they're teaching is the method to create music and not just plainly learn a single song.
You get to learn the basics of creating music, etc. With that skill, you can play almost any song you want. Rather than someone who take few years, only to learn the few songs, but cannot play others; because they're learning songs and not how music works.

Their guitar course is more on the mastery of the instruments, so it's not so much on play by ear method. I went for the seminar and did not plan to signup the course cause it's a different way of learning compared to play by ear.
The guitar course is very systematic, and teaches and train a person in mastering the guitar.
All I can say is that he's really good, I've seen my guitar friend in performer level already, but if he were to be accessed by the instructor, my friend would've find out more on his own skills.
Basically the instructor stressed a lot on mastery chords and scales, and how you can manipulate and master it.

Talk much is useless, nothing beats looking at it yourself, it's free anyway. If they want to make money, they would've charge people, plus, the owner would've been VERY rich today, but is he?

yeah or so ive heard, but i don't really mind i guess... besides, somebody has got to start somewhere right? lol

@andy214
dude, gapnap just said he has worked for them before thats why he knows such things, did you really had to start such argument?
besides, i don't have anything against play-by-ear, but they're only teaching relative pitch and some basic theory which you eventually will learn in formal training anyways..

edit: my 200th legal post jaja~

This post has been edited by Ryuuga: Jul 1 2008, 12:22 PM

lol... am i suppose to congratulate u ryuuga?

well...i think there is no such thing as "1 method that works for everything"
everybody has their own method of learning music that works for them ..
some of them through play by ear of , some by Internet and youtube , some by college like ICOM etc...

agree ?

play by ear method works for certain people ..not all ..of course i have seen beginners that went from zero to hero through play by ear ..at the same time , i have seen people who took the course and still have no clue about music ..

so thats why , for me , play by ear is just a franchise ..do you have RM130,000? click
here to find out more about play by ear

This post has been edited by gapnap: Jul 1 2008, 02:10 PM

Ryuuga,

Argument? You call that argument?
I'm just explaining things and clearing things up.

Based on your judgement, it seems you based your statement without even knowing about the courses and the method they teach.

My point is, instead of just saying what you think by knowing a little, why not understand more before coming to conclusion and confused others?

Their "Play by Ear" are teaching using the piano/keyboard as it's an easy instrument to start off. They'll guide a person to learn how to create music from there, from playing melody, creating chords and such.

Nobody forces anyone to learn but I'm just here providing information there is such things and worth checking out. If you're not interested then just ignore it, right?

If people don't have anything against it, why bother critisizing it, worst when they doesn't know much about it?
It's just an additional choice for a person who wants to learn music, nobody say "don't learn classical/conventional/formal", right?

I'm just sharing information here, that there is such things and roughly explain a little bit on what is it about and such.

As for gapnap, yes, they do have these referral things, even they give it to the students, but it's NOT a must to find referral. Plus, if you do, you get discounts or some sort of benefit.

Lastly, I did not EVEN ask anybody to say I "introduce" so I could get the benefit, I'm just here to share some information.

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Added on July 1, 2008, 2:33 pmgapnap,

Yes, but like I said, no harm checking it out, right?
Did I say, "please take the course"? No right?
I just say, it's free and you can see for yourself if it's right for you. Plus, it's an additional knowledge, who knows, one might find it useful?

As for the method, they also mentioned themselves it doesn't work for everyone, right?
They have a "refund" scheme, but I don't really trust these things either anyway.
But most importantly, one has to really practice and if it sitll doesn't work then one can argue the method doesn't work, right?

As a student, I feel the course is very short, there's only 20 classes for Level 1, with 1 hour every class.
1 Hour wouldn't be enough if the student is new to piano, he/she will be struggling to play the piano.
Secondly, you only have 1 week to practice if you choose weekly classes (sometimes I push to 2 weeks, especially for Level 2).
20 classes with weekly classes, you'll complete in 6 months. It's fast, but one could opt for completing in maximum 1 years time.

Next I would also say the instructor, during my Level 1, the instructor wasn't a true Play By Ear tutor, she was a classical piano teacher, but she tries to apply Play by Ear teaching method to me.
In my Level 2, the piano teacher is a real "Play By Ear" method tutor, from there I learn a lot and found out I miss a lot in Level 1.

But since you have been a teacher/tutor there, I believe you know about their teaching method and the formulas like R+4+3. That's a great formula and method, it's does not only applies to Play by Ear anyway. It's just a formula for Major Chords.
Plus, what they teach are teaching someone how music works and how to make music, rather than learning a single song. That way, one can later play many song which he/she likes without needing people to teach, refer to notes, etc.
Am I right?

Yes, ithey're doing franchise. They're trying to expand their business, but does that mean they're scam or just plainly marketing?
No right? I kinda know the founder after attending his seminars, he wish to build up more musician and also let people have a choice and chance to learn music. He only have 3 centre now, how does you expect him to pass on knowledge/opportunity to students elsewhere, which I believe you should know that many have inquired for years.

Of course, as usual, it's also a business, so even in the seminar, he always give these and that offer (usualyl for that day only), people doesn't like it, even if the seminar it's free, but it's still a business afterall.
The point is, he doesn't force anyone to take up the course, offer, etc. Right?

As a plus, this franchise an opportunity for people who wish to run these business too. Is there a problem with someone who wish to expand their business?
Maybe their rules, benefit and such does not sound good, or too expensive.

But hey, wait a minute? Anybody want to join their franchise? Is anyone not happy due to not able to join their franchise or something?
We're talking about their course right?

Anyway, as I mentioned, I'm just sharing information about their course, what I find it's good and worth checking out, have a look and JUDGE for yourself. Nobody forces anybody.
I don't get any benefit or noble prize nor do they know I'm promoting their business here.




This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 1 2008, 02:42 PM

andy214, ur statement sounds very aggresive for a "non-argument", no offense dude
just chill out, to each their own. Different people learn and perceive music differently. If everyone has the same mindset and perception, there would only be one music. Thats all, everyone listen to the same thing, play the same way, 'feng tao' to the same sh!t...

mind clarify if this "R+4+3" is equivalent to root+sus4+major 3 to get a major chord?

No problem and sorry if I sound agressive, but I was clearing things out. I was just sharing some information which i find is good and useful. It's just sharing of information for everyone.

Yes, everyone learn and percieve differently, that's why I never say this is the best or this sure works or anything, right? I'm just sharing that there is such things, just like everyone else, sharing what they know or even introducing the instructor they find/think is good.
Nobody forces/say which one is the best right?
Just like sometimes when you go out and yum cha with your friend, he planning to buy something, then you recommend something. Whether it's good or not or really interest or useful to him/her, it's up to him/her, right?

I just add another word is, why not check it out, it's free anyway. Because as you know, many are sceptical or doesn't even want to have a look or understand what it is and conclude something. Am I right?

Basically, the course is just teaching ppl in different ways. Just like any instructor, they have their own ways of teaching too. Just like sometimes you teach someone and he/she simply cannot understand, you try different method/ways/approach to teach. The founder has develop a method is useful and good and effective. It's enough for people who wants to learn to play music for leisure/fun/etc. They also stated it's not suitable for classical and such.

Anyway, the Guitar course I mentioned is not really a Play By Ear course, it's more of a mastery course by a guitar instructor who has a lot of experience, worked with RTM before, and also work with many artists, etc.
I find he's good and worth checking out, so I'm just sharing the information here.

Yes, the "R+4+3" is the formula to get major chord. Don't need sus4 or major3, just R+4+3, simple enough.
Anyway, there're many different formulas intepretation, I read in another book, it have a different intrepretation/formula.

Lastly, I just want to share, it is always good to know how other people teach, the methods, etc. It's always good to learn more. Just as we normally find some intructor is good and some not so, but it's always good to know how they teach, what method/approach they use, etc. Just like this course, I find it interesting how they teach and let people learn.
I'm just sharing this information; whether it's really good or not or suitable for you, judge for yourself.
Plus, anyway, they don't charge for their seminars (except you have to listen and see some marketing there, like "Today only, if you sign up, RMXX off, etc. Well, just get used to it, it's also a business anyway)

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 1 2008, 05:29 PM

http://guitar-lessons.faithweb.com/ . Here is his website. But if you plan to learn fast from him, your going to be in a surprise. I spend 1 month learning the correct way of strumming and changing the chords smoothly. learn from him 6 months then stop coz no $$$$ liao.

But he's good as a teacher. but if you plan to learn Paul Gilbert or Petrucci style shredding, then he is not your type of teacher.

Ryuunga, it's good to hear you wanting to teach beginners. when u see them succeed or manage to progress. You will feel happy

bout the ear training, looks kinda fun. but it all depends on the studentlar.........

lol not rly.. i know your legal posts doubles mine, still, if they had counted all those post in kopitiam and such i would probably be around 700 lol(maybe not)
oops out of topic pulak... >.<

uhh... sorry dude I always get caught up with debating lingo, so every point in a discussion is an argument for me... i didnt mean an argument literally... bah...
and, I know fully well what your point is and where you are heading with this discussion. I didn't say its not useful either, in fact, my dad used to learn play by ear. I think, most veterans in this forum probably have gone through, or at least knows people who play by ear. As such, most of us already know what is it about, but its is nice of you to try to introduce some different methods to newcomers.
As I said, we don't have anything against it(dunno about gapnap though xD) but we probably just prefer formal training or self training.
Also, i second Mr Z on you being tad too aggressive, and there are many flaws to your points but i shall not dwell on that as i have said enough.

Ultimately, it is to each his own, some might find play by ear very helpful and some might not.

lol I'm not the shredding type too.. >.< thanks for the encouragement ^^

BTW Mr. Z, you don't really need qualifications as long as you can play well

This post has been edited by Ryuuga: Jul 1 2008, 11:57 PM

Ryuuga: Hmmm.. i can teach basic stuff.. nothing too complicated, get people started and stuff along those line as i m still learning to be a better player myself..

alright, good that everyone understand that we each have our own opinion in regards to things. No point starting endless debates where no one wins, we get our point laid out, and let the reader decides.

So everybody reconcile and just chill out. We can continue staring blankly at the screen now.