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 ATI Radeon HD 4000 series already released!v2, Hot card in town..bye2 NVidia..

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khaidani
post Jul 3 2008, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 3 2008, 12:54 AM)
@chlkaka
Your PSU got the 6 pin connector. Look carefully.
It is because i using the same PSU as urs.

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i'm using the same psu as urs, so nothing should I worry if I plug in 4850?
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post Jul 3 2008, 06:01 PM

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hello, acbel intelligent power 450w enuff to juice 4850? I dont oc
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Jul 3 2008, 06:20 PM)
yes, it's more than enough for a single 4850 but not 4850 cf
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thanks, I never intend to do cf, not now and never

how about 4870? also enuf with acbel intelligent 450w?


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post Jul 4 2008, 12:37 PM

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4870 and 4850 can work together as cf?
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post Jul 5 2008, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 5 2008, 06:18 PM)
why not? we all love low price.

IMO, there's no reason not to follow the new price. in Newegg, even though the price has decrease by following the price from ATI, Newegg doesn't suffer any loss because ATI will give discount on the next shipment of products.
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example: distro bought the stock for 600/pc , they can't just simply sell the same stock for 500/pc as soon as manufacturer announce the price cut, simple.

anyway, waiting games is good biggrin.gif

patient is the best virtue

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post Jul 6 2008, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(NetRaid @ Jul 6 2008, 01:24 AM)
Thank you bro for the common sense!  rclxms.gif

Please think:

1. If unhealthy price war, sooner or later all distros will lingkup then who will bring in nice stuffs for you all.

2. Right now, our margins are already razor thin (unbelievable if we tell u) due to volume pressure and fast changing models. Eg. NOBODY follow ATI recommended price for the HD4000 series, it was rock bottom from day one. Further, most distros made heavy losses from selling old stocks. NVidia has NEVER provided price protection till recently for the GTX series. That too might take sometime to claim.  cry.gif

3. Who can sell at cost/loss and yet provide service, checking, warranty, shipping to & fro Mfg for customers. If many distros close due to unhealthy competition, what do you think will happen (to models & prices) if only left 1-2 distros for VGA? Imagine your VGA dying on the 11th mth and you found out distro closed/no more carry. Do you have any idea how much it cost to courier your card to HK/China?

I could go on and on about the whole cut throat mobo & VGA biz, but you get what I mean: use common sense lar. Let us survive, so that everyone can enjoy good stuffs with reasonable pricing and good service too.

Cheerio!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yes, u r right, ATi and NVIDIA should have some kind of price protection to fix their price whenever they set it up. These days we see they just suka hati announce price cut just for sake of price war,

Like my previous company, they selling their office furniture to the dealer with some table planning , showing that after some period the price should be change to another level , so the dealer would plan their market base on the table given.

Best of luck to u distro , plz do whatever u can to survive so u can serve us well.


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post Jul 6 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(mohamadfazli @ Jul 6 2008, 11:23 AM)
i dun have a 3870... this is my first graphic card since S3 .. wakakaka
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ko guna S3 tu ntuk apa sblum ni? main tetris?
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post Jul 6 2008, 11:26 PM

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I'm just concerning about far cry 2, do u guyz think my 3870 still capable to handle it? or should I upgrade to 4850/4870?

my cpu also 4000+ only, need to upgrade also??

oh headache..headache..
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post Jul 6 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 6 2008, 11:42 PM)
khai, just wait for it IMO. If that time far cry 2 out, then u se if ur pc can handle or not. By that time, probably new cards is coming out. Dont upgrade for a future thing. Btw, i am going to play Far Cry 2 on 360 smile.gif
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yes u r right , thanks for ur advice,

I just change my gc when I feel I need to, as per now everything is fine with crysis,grid,gow,cod4, etct

not following the trend, "new gc come? change..change"

btw, pc owned 360 tongue.gif
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post Jul 7 2008, 09:02 PM

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does the hdmi sound produce better than audigy 2 zs?
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post Jul 8 2008, 10:12 PM

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Rules no.xx in LYN:

Do not post/reveal your dream to public or u might go to holiday



So we have the rule as above?

anyway, how do we use the hdmi sound ?
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post Jul 10 2008, 11:55 AM

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i'm thinking to get 4850, but sometimes I think why don't I jump a bit more to 4870, but I'm only using acbel 450 intelligent power,

need you guyz opinion, is it ok if I gamble my current psu works with 4870? if only not ok than I will change to a higher power one

quite hard to let it go, bcoz it was a gift from c-zone tongue.gif

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post Jul 10 2008, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jul 10 2008, 12:19 PM)
can u list out ur pc spec pls?
im using the same psu and about to ask the same thing laugh.gif
i hope its gonna work with 4850
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amd am2 4000+
biostar TA690g
2gb kingstor ddr2 800mhz
sapphire 3870 512mb gddr4

yes I know mine is cheapo, thinking of changing proc also biggrin.gif

QUOTE(rosihan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:27 PM)
there is no major difference btween 4850 n 4870 except memory speed
so better buy 4850 it's value 4 money
and if u buy 4870 u need 2 chg ur PSU +++money sad.gif
UBAH GAYA HIDUP icon_idea.gif
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yes u r right, Ubah Gaya Hidup, PROTES

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 10 2008, 12:31 PM)
why ler.. buy it and try it ur self..
if cannot buy new psu.. afterall u need it also.. tongue.gif

actually 3870 enough edy on 19" LCD..
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22" also good enough

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Jul 10 2008, 12:28 PM)
IMO, 4850 is sufficient for all of the gaming session for me at least. I'm on 1440*900 anyway biggrin.gif

I would rather to save some bucks and use it for upgrade next time, spending so much on a GC is not really worth to me anymore as when you sell it next time, the value will drop drastically just like my previous 8800gts >.<
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agree,

well, I will just change my gc when I feel my games required to do so, when I see Far Cry 2 demo, I dont think my current 3870 can handle the games well enough, in Crysis a lot of stuff have been missed but that's ok since I already finished it and for me Crysis is not that real compare to Far Cry 2

but for incoming Far Cry 2, I think I will rugi a lot if I do the same mistake..

so the conclusion, get 4850..

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post Jul 11 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jul 11 2008, 02:50 PM)
but 8800gt Image quality sux.they gain da score bcoz reduced texture rendering.lto gain more framerate.last time i'm using 3870. n then i'm using 880gt for temporary, bcoz i'm waiting 4870 release. clearly 8800gt rendering texture sux.now using 4870. ATI better. price also
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new 4870 user reporting in tongue.gif
just bought, now 3 hours old
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i've tried myself 8800gt and 3870 side by side, clearly 3870 win, only few fps drop
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post Jul 11 2008, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 11 2008, 06:49 PM)
proof please? a fanboy baseless talk is useless
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I second ryugan,

u want proof? go get 2 rigs , 3870 and 8800gt side by side..

about 3 months ago, my colleague ask me to buy 1 full spec pc ( 8800gt ), I tried with Crysis ,yes the fps is smooth, image quality not bad,

and the day after tomorrow I upgraded my pc with sapphire 3870, play Crysis and I noticed the image quality is a bit nicer, bcoz of my fren still havent collected his pc on that time, I tried both pc at the same time with Crysis, I did notice 3870 is slightly better , only a few fps drop while some minor lag when getting into crowd.. well of coz proc also affects the result bcoz i'm just using amd am2 4000+ while my fren's pc is c2d e4600..

for being more clearer, it was not really side by side testing, my pc is on my pc table while my fren's pc is on the floor tongue.gif

sorry i am no pro nor game freak, I just play games when I have time and when I have appetite to play, so I can not tell any technical thingy, proof is a very difficult to show with just some noobie review, even with video record, u have to test with your own eyes biggrin.gif

back to topic, so the driver issue only for 4870? how about 4850?
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post Jul 15 2008, 10:15 PM

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DSAI give a very concrete level statement, while Shabery only bashing his opponent without good fact,

hope DSAI will able to reduce oil price, and as a result for gc price reduce as well..muehahaha
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post Jul 15 2008, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Jul 15 2008, 10:26 PM)
my malay isn't too good so i didn't watch it. so who won?

they say they might arrest anwar tomorrow. if that happens there are going to be riots. brace yourselves.
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dunno, the debate finished just like that, yes I heard that too, but Anwar already mentioned " tak tau lagi nasib saya lepas ni"

I believe most of u non malays also support him right, so the debate is more or less like this..

Anwar: my plan to reduce RM0.50 sen oil price is like this ..blablabla
Shabery: cannot la, Anwar, u are evil, last time u almost borrow money from international Ah long ( IMF)
Anwar:Sorry, this isn't the place to counter your bashing, let's focus on the debate topic..so will study more about IPP so blablabla
Shabery: U still want to reduce oil price? u see Venezuela, and Iran..their inflation is damn high laa..
Anwar: yes, but Venezuela and Iran got cheap oil price, while Malaysia have both, high oil price , even our inflation is higher..

So the conclusion is..Shabery pwned

sorry, I just too excited on this, back to topic..

Anyone facing crash problem in Crysis on 4850? my fren did , and he blame me for suggesting that gc to him

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