QUOTE(solai @ Jun 26 2008, 02:19 PM)
I have read a lot of topic on this issues but there were virtually no information on how to cure this problem; ERRATIC IDLING on Proton fuel injection cars.
I own a Wira 1.6XLI Auto and Waja 1.6 Auto.
The Wira have been giving me problems since 2004 when the original Throttle Body fails.
So I have the servo kit changed (2 times in fact); but no good at all.
Proton sell the Throttle Body unit for RM 1200+, so I get a re-cond unit at RM580; but still no good.
Same result as changing the servo kit.
I am an ex-mechanic myself, so I went on a learning spree about fuel injection cars.
Tried reset ECU by taking off battery for 30 minutes, went to workshop for diagnostic reset error code and troubleshoot; every thing is fine; but idling still erratic, especially when air-con kicks in or turning the steering while parking or making a turn.
I've eventually solved the problem... literally!
Here is what you need;
1) flat or Phillips screw driver
2) or no. 8 spanner
3) digital volt meter (must be digital)
Firstly, check the followings;
1) timing set to 12° BTDC (variable range is 8° - 18°) you can set to proper value after adjustment depending on the fuel U use
2) make sure TB Servo is working properly (hot start engine should rev above 1000RPM then drop below that after a couple of seconds)
MUST;
a) set to proper timing of 12° BTDC if not done
b) if TB Servo not working, have it changed
Without meeting a) & b) requirements, this adjustment procedure won't work.
After that, here is the easy part;
1) Start your engine or turn car key to ON position
- measure TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) the 2 green terminals
- variable range must be between 0.5 - 0.95 volts, U try which value is suitable for your car, mind is 0.5 - 0.6 (nice & stable)
2) Turn OFF engine, make sure car key is in OFF position
- turn the air bleed screw all the way clockwise until it locks, not tight - just lock
3) Start the engine & let it run for a minute or so
- engine should open the idle servo to compensate for the lack of air
- engine should automatically rev to >1000RPM then steadily drop to 600/700RPM
4) Engine still running after 1 minute (take your time, let the engine figure out what to do)
- turn air bleed screw 1 full turn anti-clockwise
- engine should again rev >1000RPM then drop to 700RPM or so
5) Let it run a minute or so again
- now ON air-con
- engine should react immediately to the extra load
- ON & OFF air-con a couple of times between intervals of 30 second or so
6) You may turn the air bleed anti-clockwise more, if air-con idle too low
- range is usually 1 - 2.5 turns anti-clockwise
* You are done
My Wira now accelerates better, more immediate and less smoke due to rich idle, engine runs cooler too.
Previously it chokes & accelerate like a diesel vehicle, vibrates during idle; now no more that.
You guys enjoy. Proton car is such a fuzz.
BroI own a Wira 1.6XLI Auto and Waja 1.6 Auto.
The Wira have been giving me problems since 2004 when the original Throttle Body fails.
So I have the servo kit changed (2 times in fact); but no good at all.
Proton sell the Throttle Body unit for RM 1200+, so I get a re-cond unit at RM580; but still no good.
Same result as changing the servo kit.
I am an ex-mechanic myself, so I went on a learning spree about fuel injection cars.
Tried reset ECU by taking off battery for 30 minutes, went to workshop for diagnostic reset error code and troubleshoot; every thing is fine; but idling still erratic, especially when air-con kicks in or turning the steering while parking or making a turn.
I've eventually solved the problem... literally!
Here is what you need;
1) flat or Phillips screw driver
2) or no. 8 spanner
3) digital volt meter (must be digital)
Firstly, check the followings;
1) timing set to 12° BTDC (variable range is 8° - 18°) you can set to proper value after adjustment depending on the fuel U use
2) make sure TB Servo is working properly (hot start engine should rev above 1000RPM then drop below that after a couple of seconds)
MUST;
a) set to proper timing of 12° BTDC if not done
b) if TB Servo not working, have it changed
Without meeting a) & b) requirements, this adjustment procedure won't work.
After that, here is the easy part;
1) Start your engine or turn car key to ON position
- measure TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) the 2 green terminals
- variable range must be between 0.5 - 0.95 volts, U try which value is suitable for your car, mind is 0.5 - 0.6 (nice & stable)
2) Turn OFF engine, make sure car key is in OFF position
- turn the air bleed screw all the way clockwise until it locks, not tight - just lock
3) Start the engine & let it run for a minute or so
- engine should open the idle servo to compensate for the lack of air
- engine should automatically rev to >1000RPM then steadily drop to 600/700RPM
4) Engine still running after 1 minute (take your time, let the engine figure out what to do)
- turn air bleed screw 1 full turn anti-clockwise
- engine should again rev >1000RPM then drop to 700RPM or so
5) Let it run a minute or so again
- now ON air-con
- engine should react immediately to the extra load
- ON & OFF air-con a couple of times between intervals of 30 second or so
6) You may turn the air bleed anti-clockwise more, if air-con idle too low
- range is usually 1 - 2.5 turns anti-clockwise
* You are done
My Wira now accelerates better, more immediate and less smoke due to rich idle, engine runs cooler too.
Previously it chokes & accelerate like a diesel vehicle, vibrates during idle; now no more that.
You guys enjoy. Proton car is such a fuzz.
my waja idling went crazy after engine overhaul. cannot get the idling. tried to swap with new TB,solve the jumping idling rpm, but now the rpm wont get down below 1000. stop at 1500 and lower when i turn on air-con.any idea?
May 31 2011, 11:19 PM

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