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AngelOfDestruction
post Jul 1 2008, 03:48 PM

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three forty five Posted Today, 03:41 PM
  yeah

so basically,it's better being a guy than a girl

you can improve your social skills and whatnot if you're a guy and can go through a makeover and be attractive

but for a girl,,,what you get is literally...what you get.you're either ugly or pretty,unless you can hypnotize the guy into believing you are pretty than only you can improve your attractive value.but other than that,,very limited chance to improve.too bad.


hahaha.... dont let ur mom or sisters or watever females see this...
u sure kena whack i tell you... laugh.gif
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post Jul 1 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(three forty five @ Jul 1 2008, 03:41 PM)
yeah

so basically,it's better being a guy than a girl

you can improve your social skills and whatnot if you're a guy and can go through a makeover and be attractive

but for a girl,,,what you get is literally...what you get.you're either ugly or pretty,unless you can hypnotize the guy into believing you are pretty than only you can improve your attractive value.but other than that,,very limited chance to improve.too bad.

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Any good improvement on a guy, is also a good improvement on a girl. Both want to look good, both need social skills. I'm sorry, but no matter how pretty a girl is, if she can't hold up a decent conversation, its a total turn off. There are so many aspects people can improve on to become better, it doesn't matter what gender the person is.
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post Jul 1 2008, 03:56 PM

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juz improve urself and dont stand there doing nothing but rant rant and rant.....it helps u nothing...
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post Jul 1 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 1 2008, 03:32 PM)
Now arguing, doesn't necessarily means either one must win or lose. It is actually about sharing the ideas that both conveys. If you're going in an argument with a competitive mindset, then you're mostly waiting to get another big argument on your way. Besides, can you prove yourself 100% right? Sometimes there are things that right or wrong isn't the answer. The only way to convince another through an argument is through Persuasion and Listening. Learn how to understand, then also know when you should Lead the Arguments. If you say, alright let him win, then next time let you win? Its that give and take in relationship? No, thats more like putting a mini time bomb in the relationship. Its not like that. Go with the mindset of sharing. If you disagree, let him finish his talk, then from there you Lead. And don't criticize. Its hard to don't criticize as others disagree, even me can't control me self sometimes. Haha, but it takes incredibly lots of patience and im still learning it but im way better compre to myself last time.
Anything extreme is good because it could shows the sign of 'giving' but anything extreme which is 'bad', now thats not good. Do you want extreme pollution or example?
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nod.gif i know... but like you said it's hard to be so rational at times... HAHHAHA... alright, CONTROL!! grrr... so hard!!

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 1 2008, 03:36 PM)
haha, ask yourself, what is this "feel"? If you think its something that just happens, you're naive. That "feel" can easily be manipulated by people who know how to manipulate it.
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HAHA... because it always happens on me... when i think that HEY I HAVE FEELINGS, then after 1 week, the excitement gone... then i would just leave... or perhaps, i would say... excitement?

QUOTE(three forty five @ Jul 1 2008, 03:41 PM)
yeah

so basically,it's better being a guy than a girl

you can improve your social skills and whatnot if you're a guy and can go through a makeover and be attractive

but for a girl,,,what you get is literally...what you get.you're either ugly or pretty,unless you can hypnotize the guy into believing you are pretty than only you can improve your attractive value.but other than that,,very limited chance to improve.too bad.

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hmmmmmmmmm... but then i dont like it when people like me for my looks, as i think that's too shallow... i rather people like me for other things... even better if they can turn some bad points into good points... for example, i am stubborn, but maybe to someone it will think that i am confident enough and i believe in myself... and i agree LOOKS can attract people... but when to LIKE, it should go beyong the looks... like the looks attract you to pay more attention to this someone, then you start to explore more about him/her beside the looks...
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post Jul 1 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(three forty five @ Jul 1 2008, 03:41 PM)
yeah

so basically,it's better being a guy than a girl

you can improve your social skills and whatnot if you're a guy and can go through a makeover and be attractive

but for a girl,,,what you get is literally...what you get.you're either ugly or pretty,unless you can hypnotize the guy into believing you are pretty than only you can improve your attractive value.but other than that,,very limited chance to improve.too bad.

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Dude, you're so wrong with this.
You dunno how far a make up and enviroment can change the way a person looks. laugh.gif This is for the physical appearance though.
And there are also other aspects such as personality and such, so basically there are still rooms for girls to improve.
We're in the futuristic world, where some ppl can opt for surgeries to improve on their looks.

So don't be so negative. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Vengeance_Mad: Jul 1 2008, 04:09 PM
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[quote=eRiCCa,Jul 1 2008, 03:59 PM]
nod.gif i know... but like you said it's hard to be so rational at times... HAHHAHA... alright, CONTROL!! grrr... so hard!!
HAHA... because it always happens on me... when i think that HEY I HAVE FEELINGS, then after 1 week, the excitement gone... then i would just leave... or perhaps, i would say... excitement?

Because youre below average.
So all the guys that you met is below average as well and they are not pro
enough to manipulate your so called excitement.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 1 2008, 03:36 PM)
Life is unfair, so what? Are you going to sit around b****ing about it? or are you actually going to do something about it? You can look at all your negative aspects, and think that you were just born unlucky, and life is unfair. Then you look at other people and think "he's lucky he's tall/rich/handsome/etc" must be getting everything he wants. What you fail to realise is that person may have it worse than you, but he knows how to overcome it.
Haiyya again when I said something it'll always backfire to me. I'm not saying what I've said in a way to commit suicide lor. It's just a matter and figure of speech that life wasn't fair TO MOST people. I do realised that fact and act accordingly, do whatever I can to make my life meaningful at least. I don't just sit around let Fate pre-ordained my life's ending.



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QUOTE(-Rox- @ Jul 1 2008, 04:30 PM)
Because youre below average.
So all the guys that you met is below average as well and they are not pro
enough to manipulate your so called excitement.
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QUOTE(raindrops @ Jun 30 2008, 04:16 PM)
i think you are one of those "below average"  tongue.gif
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Hmm.. hmm.gif Raindrops vanished, Rox appeared. Both with same lame attitude, same pathetic tricks to get attention. Moderators could you checked their IP's whatever you can do to find the truth about this Rox guy? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 1 2008, 04:43 PM)
Hmm..  hmm.gif Raindrops vanished, Rox appeared. Both with same lame attitude, same pathetic tricks to get attention. Moderators could you checked their IP's whatever you can do to find the truth about this Rox guy?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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oh i bet you didnt turn on your "attention-seekers-sensor" huh... that's why...
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post Jul 1 2008, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 1 2008, 04:43 PM)
Hmm..  hmm.gif Raindrops vanished, Rox appeared. Both with same lame attitude, same pathetic tricks to get attention. Moderators could you checked their IP's whatever you can do to find the truth about this Rox guy?   whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Ur request is totally unnecessary. Come back to the topic instead.
I however agree with TS on some accounts. Nice write there.

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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 02:55 PM)
but dont you think sometimes when one doesnt like you then it's the FEEL and not anything that you can change?
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yup cultural/social compatibility is definitely an issue.


though face it: we all wouldnt mind going out with someone really pretty (or socially dominant for girls) even if we werent totally socially/culturally compatible.


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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 03:10 PM)
EXACTLY!! but i only think that way when i am not in the middle of arguments... HAHAHHA... when it comes to arguments i tend to forget... i always tell myself "let them win" but then again i just think that letting them win makes me look dumb... argghhh... so difficult... =P

hmmm... i am always confident and i am always in a relationship, either formal or informal... just that there are too many BAD influences out there...

somehow i believe, we should just settle with one that we are COMFORTABLE with, that's it, not the best... but the most comfortabe... in other words... i still prefer the AVERAGE ones... anything extreme is not good...
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Being attractive gives you more choices - hence increasing the likelyhood of finding someone you are comfortable with.

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post Jul 1 2008, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 1 2008, 04:36 PM)
Haiyya again when I said something it'll always backfire to me. I'm not saying what I've said in a way to commit suicide lor. It's just a matter and figure of speech that life wasn't fair TO MOST people. I do realised that fact and act accordingly, do whatever I can to make my life meaningful at least. I don't just sit around let Fate pre-ordained my life's ending.
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How sure are you when life wasn't FAIR to Most people? Like i stated before, you're just blaming the 'outside' factor, finding things which seems 'easier' for you to blame. Is that what you think? Seriously, a MAN, i mean a REAL MAN, knows what it takes to to SURVIVE. You don't just point your finger and pick which one you hate and say hey that is his or her fault, or for your case, its LIFE fault. How do you describe LIFE btw actually? Life is broad in general.

Is good that you make your life meaningful but i bet your life will be more meaningful if you just focus on yourself and your capability and stop putting blame on life. Besides, i just don't see how you could make a decision to just let us here know that LIFE here is not FAIR to MOST people. You don't have the power to have a say about it. You're just you.

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 1 2008, 06:33 PM)

Being attractive gives you more choices - hence increasing the likelyhood of finding someone you are comfortable with.
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yup agree... but then hahahahaha... it will lead to another bad point, where you have to filter too many people... as when you are that attractive... you probably dont even have the time to entertain so many people...
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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Jul 1 2008, 04:51 PM)
Ur request is totally unnecessary. Come back to the topic instead.
I however agree with TS on some accounts. Nice write there.
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Y u quoted me? n tat post is from another thread.. unsure.gif


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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 1 2008, 09:29 PM)
How sure are you when life wasn't FAIR to Most people? Like i stated before, you're just blaming the 'outside' factor, finding things which seems 'easier' for you to blame. Is that what you think? Seriously, a MAN, i mean a REAL MAN, knows what it takes to to SURVIVE. You don't just point your finger and pick which one you hate and say hey that is his or her fault, or for your case, its LIFE fault. How do you describe LIFE btw actually? Life is broad in general.

Is good that you make your life meaningful but i bet your life will be more meaningful if you just focus on yourself and your capability and stop putting blame on life. Besides, i just don't see how you could make a decision to just let us here know that LIFE here is not FAIR to MOST people. You don't have the power to have a say about it. You're just you.
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No offense here..

Then by the same standard, how SURE are you that life is fair to all? That all human beings in this planet Earth is equally the same? Again you've misinterpreted me. I've said it and I say it again. "Life is not the same for all of us". Some born healthy, some born with defects. Some are wealthy, some have to beg just to eat a piece of bread for the day. We've tried hard to improve our life, but some will prevail, some will be doomed. Let's not focus on the love life now (since you want to talk about life in general). After all these years, based on what I've witnessed and encounter, I strongly believes that life is not fair for all. It can't be fair. How can you say that life is fair and equal when a person next to you is healthy and well built while the other one is obese and sick? No matter how you interpret it, honestly sir, can you truly honestly say that there's any "fair" to it? That's why I've said, life is not fair for most people.

In my case, (which got me thinking), I have a 14 years old brother with autisme (Google it to find out). It's really heartbreaking. Where's the "fair" in that? I don't see it. Why it has to be my brother? Why not someone else? Is he fated to be like that?

Onto the bigger picture now. Why some countries are so poor, why are some so prosporous? Think.

I'm not saying based on my emo-ness whatever. Life can't be fair to all. Some might be lucky, some will not. I'm not pin pointing everyday in my life. What's the point in doing that? It's just a matter of thoughts that keeps me wondering, but it doesn't make me wake up at night screaming about it. It's just a process of thinking based on experience, and I've made up my conclusion. But my conclusion simply won't make me a loser, giving up on anything or just play along with God's will. No , no, no sir I'm not. I'd love to think that I'm the one in control of my life, not by some unseen forces to pull the strings. Maybe in a word, yes I would put the blame on life but that's it. "Scapegoat" found, done, and I can carry on with my life. Surviving each day with all my might and will.

See through my eyes, learn what I've learnt, feel what I've felt, experienced what I've endured. I've been through a lot. A man, a REAL MAN would understand this.
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QUOTE(vo0de3_x | oum@n @ Jul 1 2008, 09:40 PM)
vengeance_mad ?
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OOT but yeah. LOL, who r u?


QUOTE(@lice~~ @ Jul 2 2008, 11:29 AM)
Y u quoted me? n tat post is from another thread..  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 2 2008, 11:30 AM)
No offense here..

Then by the same standard, how SURE are you that life is fair to all? That all human beings in this planet Earth is equally the same? Again you've misinterpreted me. I've said it and I say it again. "Life is not the same for all of us". Some born healthy, some born with defects. Some are wealthy, some have to beg just to eat a piece of bread for the day. We've tried hard to improve our life, but some will prevail, some will be doomed. Let's not focus on the love life now (since you want to talk about life in general). After all these years, based on what I've witnessed and encounter, I strongly believes that life is not fair for all. It can't be fair. How can you say that life is fair and equal when a person next to you is healthy and well built while the other one is obese and sick? No matter how you interpret it, honestly sir, can you truly honestly say that there's any "fair" to it? That's why I've said, life is not fair for most people.

In my case, (which got me thinking), I have a 14 years old brother with autisme (Google it to find out). It's really heartbreaking. Where's the "fair" in that? I don't see it. Why it has to be my brother? Why not someone else? Is he fated to be like that?

Onto the bigger picture now. Why some countries are so poor, why are some so prosporous? Think.

I'm not saying based on my emo-ness whatever. Life can't be fair to all. Some might be lucky, some will not. I'm not pin pointing everyday in my life. What's the point in doing that? It's just a matter of thoughts that keeps me wondering, but it doesn't make me wake up at night screaming about it. It's just a process of thinking based on experience, and I've made up my conclusion. But my conclusion simply won't make me a loser, giving up on anything or just play along with God's will. No , no, no sir I'm not. I'd love to think that I'm the one in control of my life, not by some unseen forces to pull the strings. Maybe in a word, yes I would put the blame on life but that's it. "Scapegoat" found, done, and I can carry on with my life. Surviving each day with all my might and will.

See through my eyes, learn what I've learnt, feel what I've felt, experienced what I've endured. I've been through a lot. A man, a REAL MAN would understand this.
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By all mean, there really isn't any point to debate whether life is fair or not. The world we are living in needs "balance". When there is happiness, there will be sadness. Therefore, when there is fairness, so existed un-fairness to all living beings.

Like you, I'm someone who is not and will not fall for something call "destiny in life" also. When i think my life is unfair to me, change it I will and not sit silently and let it be.

Fair or unfair just a matter of measurement by an individual.
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QUOTE(ckshieh @ Jul 2 2008, 12:22 PM)
By all mean, there really isn't any point to debate whether life is fair or not. The world we are living in needs "balance". When there is happiness, there will be sadness. Therefore, when there is fairness, so existed un-fairness to all living beings.

Like you, I'm someone who is not and will not fall for something call "destiny in life" also. When i think my life is unfair to me, change it I will and not sit silently and let it be.

Fair or unfair just a matter of measurement by an individual.
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My point exactly.. some get and some dont. balance, that's the right word for now.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 2 2008, 12:33 PM)
My point exactly.. some get and some dont. balance, that's the right word for now..  smile.gif
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then why even mention that life is unfair? Its irrelevant isn't it? smile.gif

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