QUOTE(wangpr @ Jul 1 2008, 11:50 AM)
Doesn't gave him the rights to mock other people..FACE THE TRUTH, The Real Game of Love
FACE THE TRUTH, The Real Game of Love
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Jul 1 2008, 12:14 PM
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I would say Raindrops the man.
His point quite make sense actually. Oh well, erica look at the post. Face the truth. And yea, chill alright. Im definely not admiring you or trying to get your attention. |
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Jul 1 2008, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(-Rox- @ Jul 1 2008, 12:14 PM) I would say Raindrops the man. then you must be just broke up... His point quite make sense actually. Oh well, erica look at the post. Face the truth. And yea, chill alright. Im definely not admiring you or trying to get your attention. i wonder how do your brains look like when you tend to BELIEVE what you think = the truth? or i guess you never know what's the DEFINITION if the TRUTH huh? need me to direct you to dictionary.com? |
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Jul 1 2008, 01:06 PM
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The Game states it all . I recommend u guys a movie '' the tao of steve'' , it opens my mind to the whole new adult world. lol
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Jul 1 2008, 01:13 PM
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the truth is ntg is uncondition...including LOVE
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Jul 1 2008, 01:42 PM
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love tend to make a person stupid sometimes
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Jul 1 2008, 01:51 PM
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Go learn social dynamics and you'll improve your chances tremendously wif people and especially girls. I started my journey believing by this basic theory either, and it put me in a negative state of mind either. but I soon learn that this is the theory a guy who's didn't achieve much success wif girls and came up in order to be defensive. You should try to improve yourself, wear better clothes, built up network of frens, learn the proper dynamics to talk and attract girls to you. Better guys will manipulate all this findings to their advantage, not blame the world and nature and said the mothernature rule is unfair.
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Jul 1 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 10:54 AM) hmmm... i dont know... maybe i have met those prince charming and everyone loves them and i just cant stand it... or maybe i was just so unlucky that i met all BAD princes... they dont really care about you because they know they have MORE THAN ENOUGH out there... Here's the thing, if you have one of those guys, you don't have to be someone that 'craves' for attention from him. The more you ask 'approval' from them, the more 'condemn' you will get. Instead make him crave for you. If you're been giving attention to him constantly and yet not to you as well, trust me ericca, you will just asking for a 'break-up' in the future. To keep the attraction 'balance' there must be outflow and inflow. In this case, you must learn how to love him and also love yourself too. Its the simple and most profound concept to how to strengthen your love. Don't ask how you going to 'maintain' these type of person, instead ask yourself why? what my point is... they are only good to see, good to touch, but they wont belong to you forever... or maybe AGAIN it's just me, i want to OWN someone by myself, and not sharing with others... or everyday in mind thinking when will i lose him/her... that's scary... so i would rather stick to the one i think is GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, but might not be enough for other people... and i can happily and safely have him... no stress no suspect... and also... MAYBE i am insecured also MAYBE i am below average... but who cares, that's what i think... If you're hoping to find someone really that is good enough for you, well its not that hard if you learn how to be good to yourself. Hey, trust me, sometimes even our partner now act like the person who isn't GOOD enough for us anyway. Sometimes. But, trust me...no complain or criticize, you will work it out just fine. Thats why, i do hope you don't criticize good looking people = good to see and touch. They are more than that. Remember humans have characterisitics and heart too. Instead of looks, try go look for what other package does they have instead of just looks. Looks can be deceiving but their intention is always clear. Besides, if you can't maintain these type of people, it indirectly shows your incapability in choosing the 'right' person. But for what is right, everyone makes mistakes for future 'rights'. QUOTE so i would rather stick to the one i think is GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, but might not be enough for other people To be honest, thats the sign or seed of possessiveness. I'm not saying you shouldn't be possessive but you should understand not to overly do it. QUOTE no stress no suspect. If you go in to a relationship with this kind of thinking, you will be inviting trouble somehow in the future. Ever ask yourself what if things turn 180 degree? Will you just question or ask yourself 'I thought, no stress no suspect?' Trust me, don't say such things which could bring trouble to you though you didn't mean it. Added on July 1, 2008, 2:07 pm QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Jul 1 2008, 01:42 PM) There is this saying its either you look at the bottle and say half full or half empty. Well, to me love makes a person blossom. Added on July 1, 2008, 2:10 pm QUOTE(Canopies @ Jul 1 2008, 01:06 PM) The Game states it all . I recommend u guys a movie '' the tao of steve'' , it opens my mind to the whole new adult world. lol The game states it all? Haha....you're just a quarter away young fella. You haven't read other books yet and trust me, there are books out there can fried neil strauss the game. Don't just look at malaysia for example. Go sg or other countries. Trust me, neil strauss is just part of the competition. Maybe a little piece. Just for romance and how to attract. I've got 5 books. Maintain relationship, 15 books. Stop divorce 3 books. After reading all, Neil Strauss is just a complimentary part in my collection. This post has been edited by peinsama: Jul 1 2008, 02:10 PM |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 1 2008, 01:51 PM) Go learn social dynamics and you'll improve your chances tremendously wif people and especially girls. I started my journey believing by this basic theory either, and it put me in a negative state of mind either. but I soon learn that this is the theory a guy who's didn't achieve much success wif girls and came up in order to be defensive. You should try to improve yourself, wear better clothes, built up network of frens, learn the proper dynamics to talk and attract girls to you. Better guys will manipulate all this findings to their advantage, not blame the world and nature and said the mothernature rule is unfair. No offense but to me, it is unfair.. |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 1 2008, 02:03 PM) Here's the thing, if you have one of those guys, you don't have to be someone that 'craves' for attention from him. The more you ask 'approval' from them, the more 'condemn' you will get. Instead make him crave for you. If you're been giving attention to him constantly and yet not to you as well, trust me ericca, you will just asking for a 'break-up' in the future. To keep the attraction 'balance' there must be outflow and inflow. In this case, you must learn how to love him and also love yourself too. Its the simple and most profound concept to how to strengthen your love. Don't ask how you going to 'maintain' these type of person, instead ask yourself why? Is it really worth investing on it? If you're hoping to find someone really that is good enough for you, well its not that hard if you learn how to be good to yourself. Hey, trust me, sometimes even our partner now act like the person who isn't GOOD enough for us anyway. Sometimes. But, trust me...no complain or criticize, you will work it out just fine. Thats why, i do hope you don't criticize good looking people = good to see and touch. They are more than that. Remember humans have characterisitics and heart too. Instead of looks, try go look for what other package does they have instead of just looks. Looks can be deceiving but their intention is always clear. Besides, if you can't maintain these type of people, it indirectly shows your incapability in choosing the 'right' person. But for what is right, everyone makes mistakes for future 'rights'. To be honest, thats the sign or seed of possessiveness. I'm not saying you shouldn't be possessive but you should understand not to overly do it. If you go in to a relationship with this kind of thinking, you will be inviting trouble somehow in the future. Ever ask yourself what if things turn 180 degree? Will you just question or ask yourself 'I thought, no stress no suspect?' Trust me, don't say such things which could bring trouble to you though you didn't mean it. Added on July 1, 2008, 2:07 pm There is this saying its either you look at the bottle and say half full or half empty. Well, to me love makes a person blossom. Added on July 1, 2008, 2:10 pm The game states it all? Haha....you're just a quarter away young fella. You haven't read other books yet and trust me, there are books out there can fried neil strauss the game. Don't just look at malaysia for example. Go sg or other countries. Trust me, neil strauss is just part of the competition. Maybe a little piece. Just for romance and how to attract. I've got 5 books. Maintain relationship, 15 books. Stop divorce 3 books. After reading all, Neil Strauss is just a complimentary part in my collection. |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 1 2008, 02:11 PM) No...what he says its the truth. Why blame outside if you can't look inside of you? Its easier to blame external factors then to blame whats wrong with you. You should have understand, that you have the power to make choices just like anyone else. Why someone could do better, its because they chose what's best for them. Ask yourself, if you blame the surrounding factors for example, friends, families, and societies 'prejudice', to what extent can you 'improve' yourself especially your perception?Added on July 1, 2008, 2:28 pm QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 1 2008, 02:20 PM) Because i'm rich thats why. Haha.....Is it worth it? Oh yes, no doubt about it. It enhances every part of me especially my perception of love. Not only that, i still haven't tell how many more self motivating books at my cabinet. For example, Masters of my dream. Love on Demand. the Secrets. Art of Personal Magnetism. How to get what you want and many more. And the one that i really want to get is 'The deliberate thinker or secrets' - Its about how a single man transform businessmen into millionaire with just thinking skills. I'm amazed by his teachings and im looking forward to purchase it, but it will costs me a bomb. But its worth it. why do i do i buy all these? Well, more than 5 years ago, am just like like the opposite of what i am now and i hated my situation. So i decided to change, and to first start by changing my thinking. Thus here is where I am now, a resolution to my old self. Nothing is sweeter than to escape what's 'bad' for yourself isn't it. A philanthropist is what i want to be. This post has been edited by peinsama: Jul 1 2008, 02:32 PM |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 1 2008, 02:03 PM) Here's the thing, if you have one of those guys, you don't have to be someone that 'craves' for attention from him. The more you ask 'approval' from them, the more 'condemn' you will get. Instead make him crave for you. If you're been giving attention to him constantly and yet not to you as well, trust me ericca, you will just asking for a 'break-up' in the future. To keep the attraction 'balance' there must be outflow and inflow. In this case, you must learn how to love him and also love yourself too. Its the simple and most profound concept to how to strengthen your love. Don't ask how you going to 'maintain' these type of person, instead ask yourself why? yea i get what you mean seriously, i think it's just something in my mind that i cant get out of it... maybe again back to the starting point, i have no confident that i can keep such a person... and also knowing myself a very jealousy person, i dont think that i can deal with those...If you're hoping to find someone really that is good enough for you, well its not that hard if you learn how to be good to yourself. Hey, trust me, sometimes even our partner now act like the person who isn't GOOD enough for us anyway. Sometimes. But, trust me...no complain or criticize, you will work it out just fine. Thats why, i do hope you don't criticize good looking people = good to see and touch. They are more than that. Remember humans have characterisitics and heart too. Instead of looks, try go look for what other package does they have instead of just looks. Looks can be deceiving but their intention is always clear. Besides, if you can't maintain these type of people, it indirectly shows your incapability in choosing the 'right' person. But for what is right, everyone makes mistakes for future 'rights'. To be honest, thats the sign or seed of possessiveness. I'm not saying you shouldn't be possessive but you should understand not to overly do it. If you go in to a relationship with this kind of thinking, you will be inviting trouble somehow in the future. Ever ask yourself what if things turn 180 degree? Will you just question or ask yourself 'I thought, no stress no suspect?' Trust me, don't say such things which could bring trouble to you though you didn't mean it. i am actually trying to work out on my criticism... HAHAHHAHAHAH... |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 1 2008, 01:51 PM) Go learn social dynamics and you'll improve your chances tremendously wif people and especially girls. I started my journey believing by this basic theory either, and it put me in a negative state of mind either. but I soon learn that this is the theory a guy who's didn't achieve much success wif girls and came up in order to be defensive. You should try to improve yourself, wear better clothes, built up network of frens, learn the proper dynamics to talk and attract girls to you. Better guys will manipulate all this findings to their advantage, not blame the world and nature and said the mothernature rule is unfair. Couldnt have said it better myself.I've said this many times. If the girl you like doesnt seem to like you: 1) go to the gym 2) build social network 3) try again few months later. |
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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 1 2008, 02:46 PM) Couldnt have said it better myself. but dont you think sometimes when one doesnt like you then it's the FEEL and not anything that you can change? I've said this many times. If the girl you like doesnt seem to like you: 1) go to the gym 2) build social network 3) try again few months later. |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 02:38 PM) yea i get what you mean seriously, i think it's just something in my mind that i cant get out of it... maybe again back to the starting point, i have no confident that i can keep such a person... and also knowing myself a very jealousy person, i dont think that i can deal with those... Alright, but its ok. I believe now you should be more confident that before as you are in a relationship now. So be really 'excite' about it. Feel the electricity babe. Haha..i am actually trying to work out on my criticism... HAHAHHAHAHAH... About criticism, do note that criticism is like a horning pigeon. It always comes home. You will get what i mean here. More likely, criticism will only hurt yourself and the other. If others criticize, let them be. Its better to stop a negative argument rather than to start a war, isn't it? If you just stop criticize and be more attentive and appreciates what others can give, you will tend to get better things in life. I've used to criticize alot, hell yeah it makes me felt more superior but more likely people will tend to go 'away' from me. I dont want that. So i do hope you understand the nature of criticism. It condemns people more than actually realizing what they don't understand from you. Added on July 1, 2008, 3:00 pm QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 02:55 PM) but dont you think sometimes when one doesnt like you then it's the FEEL and not anything that you can change? Haha, FEELINGS do change, so its up to the person to change the direction or the magnitude of the feelings. Be creative somehow.This post has been edited by peinsama: Jul 1 2008, 09:34 PM |
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jul 1 2008, 02:58 PM) Alright, but its ok. I believe now you should be more confident that before as you are in a relationship now. So be really 'excite' about it. Feel the electricity babe. Haha.. EXACTLY!! but i only think that way when i am not in the middle of arguments... HAHAHHA... when it comes to arguments i tend to forget... i always tell myself "let them win" but then again i just think that letting them win makes me look dumb... argghhh... so difficult... =PAbout criticism, do note that criticism is like a horning pigeon. It always comes home. You will get what i mean here. More likely, criticism will only hurt yourself and the other. If others criticize, let them be. Its better to stop an negative argument rather than to start a war, isn't it? If you just stop criticize and be more attentive and appreciates what others can give, you will tend to get better things in life. I've used to criticize alot, hell yeah it makes me like superior but more likely people will tend to go away from me. I dont want that. So i do hope you understand the nature of criticism. It condemns people more than actually realizing what they don't understand from you. Added on July 1, 2008, 3:00 pm Haha, FEELINGS do change, so its up to the person to change the direction or the magnitude of the feelings. Be creative somehow. hmmm... i am always confident and i am always in a relationship, either formal or informal... just that there are too many BAD influences out there... somehow i believe, we should just settle with one that we are COMFORTABLE with, that's it, not the best... but the most comfortabe... in other words... i still prefer the AVERAGE ones... anything extreme is not good... |
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 03:10 PM) EXACTLY!! but i only think that way when i am not in the middle of arguments... HAHAHHA... when it comes to arguments i tend to forget... i always tell myself "let them win" but then again i just think that letting them win makes me look dumb... argghhh... so difficult... =P hmmm... i am always confident and i am always in a relationship, either formal or informal... just that there are too many BAD influences out there... somehow i believe, we should just settle with one that we are COMFORTABLE with, that's it, not the best... but the most comfortabe... in other words... i still prefer the AVERAGE ones... anything extreme is not good... QUOTE but then again i just think that letting them win Now arguing, doesn't necessarily means either one must win or lose. It is actually about sharing the ideas that both conveys. If you're going in an argument with a competitive mindset, then you're mostly waiting to get another big argument on your way. Besides, can you prove yourself 100% right? Sometimes there are things that right or wrong isn't the answer. The only way to convince another through an argument is through Persuasion and Listening. Learn how to understand, then also know when you should Lead the Arguments. If you say, alright let him win, then next time let you win? Its that give and take in relationship? No, thats more like putting a mini time bomb in the relationship. Its not like that. Go with the mindset of sharing. If you disagree, let him finish his talk, then from there you Lead. And don't criticize. Its hard to don't criticize as others disagree, even me can't control me self sometimes. Haha, but it takes incredibly lots of patience and im still learning it but im way better compre to myself last time. QUOTE anything extreme is not good Anything extreme is good because it could shows the sign of 'giving' but anything extreme which is 'bad', now thats not good. Do you want extreme pollution for example? This post has been edited by peinsama: Jul 1 2008, 09:32 PM |
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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Jul 1 2008, 02:11 PM) Life is unfair, so what? Are you going to sit around b****ing about it? or are you actually going to do something about it? You can look at all your negative aspects, and think that you were just born unlucky, and life is unfair. Then you look at other people and think "he's lucky he's tall/rich/handsome/etc" must be getting everything he wants. What you fail to realise is that person may have it worse than you, but he knows how to overcome it. Every negative aspect you can think of, has a positive side to it, you just have to know how to look at it. Unfairness is relative, and any hardship is merely an obstacle. A step you have to take to become a better person. Stay at the bottom and weep, whine and cry all you want. The rest of us will just climb wall after wall and become better, and thus opening up opportunities that you will never have because you're stuck at the bottom. QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jul 1 2008, 02:55 PM) but dont you think sometimes when one doesnt like you then it's the FEEL and not anything that you can change? haha, ask yourself, what is this "feel"? If you think its something that just happens, you're naive. That "feel" can easily be manipulated by people who know how to manipulate it. |
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yeah
so basically,it's better being a guy than a girl you can improve your social skills and whatnot if you're a guy and can go through a makeover and be attractive but for a girl,,,what you get is literally...what you get.you're either ugly or pretty,unless you can hypnotize the guy into believing you are pretty than only you can improve your attractive value.but other than that,,very limited chance to improve.too bad. |
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