It's unfair lah. Some might get it some wont. Balance in a way though.. Not everyone is rich and not everyone in poor. Not everyone is drop dead gorgeous. not evryone is lucky . Balancelah . Hence, some getting most, some getting none. Basic concept of injustice. Unfair rite?.

This post has been edited by Evangelistica: Jul 2 2008, 03:54 PM

Still if you haven't answered my question 'Why life isn't unfair to Most?' i can still jump in and ask back 'Why life isn't unfair to Most?' that i mentioned previously.

So you think if all people in this world is rich, do you think the world is going to be Utopia? Economically speaking the rich need the poor to be called themselves rich. Its always the matter who wants and deserves more. If you're just looking at the outside picture or 'the world' that you used to mention previously, just like i say before, its easier to see why from the outside than to see why from the inside of you. Just because we have different 'life' that doesn't mean it is unfair? Like i stated b4, you don't have the power to say that. You're just narrowing your scope to rich, healthy, sick, poor and many more tangible stuffs. How about the intangible stuffs? You're just tired of carrying your own dilemma and problems....hey (whistling)..listen here, just so you know 'We are tired too carrying our problems but at least we don't whine and complain about it because as a matter of fact problems should be solved instead of waiting for miracles and other people's solutions.



You see whats wrong with you? You rather hoping others people will get your brother dysfunctional disease, than for your brother to 'have' it. Is that what you call 'FAIR'? By hoping that your life is better than the other? Dude you're blaming for all the bad things in your life. I'm going to tell you straight forward, my life is not as easy as i thought it used to be. Every body had their own 'challenges' given to them and by God. Just because of your brothers problem that doesn't mean you should tell why others should have it instead of your brother. I'm very disheartened when you say that. You simply assumed, that all those rich and healthy people are problem free. Seriously, widen your scope of understanding your society surround you. Perhaps you will get a better judgment from what you're saying now. Just remember, if you want to make yourself to live in a better place, stop blaming and learn the meaning of acceptance. Each of us got our own unique problem. Its only the matter of who are able to be in one shoes and to understand what he or she is going through. Yeah i know autisme is for a life time, my neighbour Dennis is the same. But at least he is always happy for who is him right now and im very proud to have him as my neighbor because you know why? I don't judge. For you as a brother, what exactly can you change about him if given you had a choice? Trust me, sometimes the thing that you hate, you will miss it or the person when it or the person is gone. You will never know when that time comes. So learn to accept. I have once a very sick grandma, she passed away and only 2 months i know about it and im the last person to know it just because my mom want me to focus on my studies. Now did i blame it is unfair? No, rather than to see my beloved grandma 'sadly' passed away, i told myself to stop weeping and told myself to score well in my studies for the sake of myself and my family. The difference between you and me is that i don't blame. And i live life a 'happier' way.



If you ever learn economic, i suggest you do some readings before we even debate on this. If you understand the meaning of productivity, income per capita, GDP and GNP....you will get the glimpse. Besides even Japan and the United States and also China are having problems even though they are the biggest economic power in the world. Like i say, don't assume that the prosperous are 'problem-free'. There is no such thing as 'prosperous are better' because in this context you have to look in a much much much bigger scope to even debate what's the meaning of a country prosperity after all. Besides, not to even mention economic fluctuations. So, are you going to talk on that too? Trust me, it will be the chicken or egg dilemma.



I tell you what, as much a i love to see who you are right now or get to know you better, as much as i also want to tell you life is fair after all. If you say life isn't fair, it shows your negativity thinking and thus there comes the blaming from you towards the external factors such as God for example. Life is fair if you look at the bigger picture. It provides 'abundance' for the one that 'wants' it more than the other and provides 'scarcity' to the one that just go blames around for something that they can't have. In the end of the day, most of the outside matters is always controlled by what's within you. That's why there are subject called consumer behavior and heroism. Life is in the neutral stance, thus it is fair.

You say you're a Real Man? Forgive me, but i think you're a Sad Man. Because if you understand what real Man is, first he never even complains or whines about the things that he can't have but he will struggle to achieve his best. He too knows how to feel what others can feel. If you expect others to feel your shoes, then do yourself a favor, how about by starting putting yourself in our shoes. Then you know, you will have a good start. Just because we felt your shoes doesn't make you a Real Man. Like i say b4, everyone have their own guilt and problems. If you want us to sympathizes you and say you're a Real Man, well ok there you go Real Man, but trust me deep inside of you, you will never felt like a Real Man if you always start craving for 'attention'.

If you read what I said previously, you'll notice I mentioned that what is unfair, is relative to whatever standard of fair you're comparing to. Some people have it bad, some people have it WORSE, some people have it good, some people have it better. You're right when you say its quite balanced, because behind all the negatives, there are positives. Its whether the person can see it and focus on that instead of the negative things which befall them.

To put it simply, life is fair in the way it is unfair.

Well. again you misinterpret things dear peinsama. it's just my views and opinions. just for the record i never said that i want all people in this world is equal ala Utopia, i've never said that other people should be the one get my brother's disease, i've never said that rich people is problem free, i've never claimed i'm a real man, hell i never said lots of things you mentioned with your lengthy "words of wisdom". All I did was just raise a question to think. Maybe my english is not as good as you, thats why you misterpret it. Again dear peinsama, I am not pin pointing and blaming. I'm very much accepting and moving forward towards my goal in life. And I'm definitely not whining, not anymore nowadays. It's just a matter of raising a reasonable doubt to debate.

All I'm trying to say is this, once and for all ..

"Not all people in this world are fortunate enough to experience the luxury of other people had. To me, THAT is unfair. I said 'to me' there. It's just my point of view. I accept it, and carry on with my life. I didn't force anyone to accept it. Each one of us has their own views towards life. Maybe the definition of fair and unfair is a shade of grey to all of us. "

This post has been edited by Evangelistica: Jul 2 2008, 05:25 PM

Lol which means she never met any pro before huh , the one who can create ''excitement aka feelings '' instantly and get what he wants ''secondly'' and then end with a close finish , or u juz aren't attractive enough. lol

When you're talking about your brother sickness, when you say why the fate falls on him and not to the other, aren't you indirectly hoping that others should have the disease to felt like how your brother did? Try you look back and read your post. Try to see the essence behind it especially the autisme part. Look at the way you describe it. Isn't it very demeaning to put it that way. Doesn't it show that you're not accepting it as the way things are especially your bro's case?

I don't have to repeat, but everybody got their problems. If you thought that shifting the blame would have make anything clearer than most probably you fall on the wrong side. What is fair to you could be unfair to someone. But what is unfair to you it could be fair to someone. You don't have a say to how life is being unfair to those unfortunates.

Well, did i actually force you to accept that life is FAIR? I'm just merely expressing my disagreement with you thats all. But if you chose to see things that way, then it is up2u. but do understand you're just answering for the 'poor' people part. Can you answer for the 'rich' people part? And from there on give a better judgment on this issue? Look at both ways. If you can answer for the unfortunate part, ask yourself how do you answer for the 'fortunate' part. Then you will likely have another point of view. Then ask yourself again, does the fortunate ones is always fortunate all the time? Or could the unfortunate one accept themselves as being fortunate for who they are instead of what they lack of? There are some 'poor' people i know who have a very happy life. Isn't that sound fortunate to you? Don't always think that luxury or any other monetary things is a 'fortune'. It comes with a price especially happiness. So don't always think that 'rich' people are destined to be 'problem-free'. They do have the money, but do they have the wits to handle their own money?

What silverhawk say is the most profound and prominent way to describe about life. Life is fair in the way it is unfair Now that is what a Wise and Real Man should say about life.

I think the way i write doesn't seems 100% to be what i meant. I'm sorry my english and verbal vocabulary is not as high quality or as good as you.. Youre the WISE and REAL man here peinsama, now i see it. Wow if I can just only meet you in person, sure there's a lot about life I can learn from you, My Wise Guru...

This post has been edited by Evangelistica: Jul 3 2008, 08:22 AM

Easy.. just appreciate what u hv now... urself, ur work, ur family, ur frens, ur items...

W00t another nice thread by TS XD

Why not just merged both thread and have it pinned though?

I think not everyone can express their feeling in a very clear and clean way. To most of the people, something in their heart, a lot of time, can't be easily express by word. It is not easy to learn how to "speak" such that able to let "everyone" truely understand what you actually feel in your heart.

When I only look at what Peinsama wrote, life is Neutral, in his own point of view. When I only look at what Evangelistica wrote, life is also Neutral but in another point of view. If I combine both of their word, the bigger picture will show one side is thinking positively and another site is less positive,but to me, that is nothing wrong about it.

To me, there is nothing wrong with complaining, as long as you are happy about your action. Yes, appreciate what you have, regardless whether it is good or bad.

Good idea, though the other thread was very messy and i have to admit it was more of a rant than a proper article.


I hope this thread could be pinned. It was written from ground up as an article. It does not need much more polishing to make it complete.

Buayakatsuki is lurking almost everywhere in lyn....at least some help could shred off some trouble from the buayakatsuki members. hehe.....

TS, the next question is how to be social dominant...hmm...

Social dominant to me is kind of a natural born skill. Good for those who have it. Still, it can be learn slowly but tough. You have to change your personality I must say. For example, being a shy person isn't helping much. It's kind of live in other peoples' shadows all the time. You have to stand out a bit and, being a sweet talker is always a plus.

To me lah. I dunno if peinsama agrees with me..

This post has been edited by Evangelistica: Jul 4 2008, 08:49 AM

That's not really socially dominant. Sometimes the most quiet one in the group is actually the socially dominant one. Its basically the person who commands the most respect, authority, confidence and influence. You can be the noisiest person, make everyone laugh, and still fail to be socially dominant.

Have to agree on this. But being confident is not always means being dominant. As for feeding on other downfalls, it's lame and cruel but it does happens some times.

I agree, looks like a case of empty vessels makes the most noise?
e.g. me

But this empty vessels do stand out from others, rite? You started noticing them first, only then you will move your attention to other people..